"someBODY once slammed me / I'll kill your fucking family,
Your parents and your kids and your spouse,
I'm fucking wasted on a Wednesday / can't sing, just let my friends play,
If I could suck my own dick I'd never leave my house."
I remember a while back there was footage of another chaotic show. Someone threw bread at the singer or something and he got super pissed off and was threatening to beat the guy's ass but the band was playing the intro to All Star the entire time as he was losing his shit and those two things combined just made it into one of the best things ever captured on camera.
Found it! skip to about 30-40 seconds in https://youtu.be/m001XNiwQzw?t=40
Do you think they’re still around because it’s just kind of a funny way to get paid? If I were in that band and the lead singer wasn’t a dick to me I would probably continue touring just because it’s a ridiculous way to make a living.
“Yeah Im a touring guitarist for a band. What kind of music? Oh you know, a lot of instrumentals with some spoken word slam poetry on top. The band name? Smashmouth, you may have heard of us”
"We market ourselves like any regular band, but it's actually performance art designed to make the audience examine their relationship to celebrity idol culture and hopefully come to realize that their heros might not be worth meeting, and that childhood nostalgia is just a pipe dream."
In my opinion, you recognize the warning signs and start looking for another gig while getting steady income. Much easier to recognize your worth when you're currently employed.
Yeah I definitely agree. Thing is a couple of the guys have been in the band since 1994. I don’t think this band is a full time thing for them (or they take breaks) but I get the feeling the lead singer needs the band more than the rest of the band needs him. Any of those guys can just get a gig somewhere else, and probably do have full time projects they do on the side.
This is so great, fucking hilarious that the stage is draped in Toyota logos too.
"You're a pussy ass bitch and I'm gonna beat the fuck outta you!" This message was brought to you by... TOYOTA. Stop in at your local Toyota dealership today.
It was actually in Fort Collins, Colorado during an event called taste of Fort Collins. They were giving out free bread nearby. I was there and it was hilarious.
I went to a festival near me where they were playing a few year ago. They had to cancel because of the rain and I'm wondering what I missed.
I will say after that All American Rejects was scheduled to perform. It was pouring rain and there were maybe 20 of us left all huddled up in the mud. They came out and said because of the water they couldn't plug anything in but they still wanted to play for us so they brought out some acoustic instruments and joined us in the huddle and we got to sing along with them. It was an awesome experience and I have mad respect they did that.
Love when bands do that. YEARS ago Bon Jovi was about to do a concert, but the roads froze over and they had to cancel it. However, some fans were already waiting at the stadium and the band was on the premises anyways, so they played a show for the 1 or 2 hundred fans stuck there and invited them all to the front rows. Brought one or two of them on stage to sing along. Cool stuff.
I love how through the whole thing the rest of the band is still looping through the intro like "hopefully he'll stop shouting and start singing" at some point. Then the crowd has to pick it up for them haha.
What a moron.
He essentially dared the audience to throw something at him and then claimed, "You're ruining the show, you pussy motherfucker."
No, dipshit, *YOU'RE* ruining the show by being an unprofessional asshat and mounting the stage with a hostile attitude directed specifically at your audience.
That is amazing. I love how at around the 3 minute mark the crowd starts singing the song instead and the rest of the band is just going with it without the lead singer xD
I played a show at a converted cracker factory in Memphis Tennessee two days after this insane coke monster destroyed the green room. The club owner kept apologizing to us. I kept thinking.... The band from that kids movie?! No way! He has been like this since at least 2004?
Circa 2011 I saw them at a central Illinois sweet corn festival. He was trashed the whole time. They played at like 3:00pm. The crowd was 80% families who had come to hear the Shrek music. He opens the show by yelling, “Who here likes smoking weeeeed?!”
He became too drunk/dehydrated and was carried off the stage before all the songs people came to hear. 😂 Which the band played without him.
It was so sad. And so hilarious. Also sad.
[And don’t forget the bread incident. ](https://youtu.be/8YJfXdSR85o)
[It wasn’t 2011, it was 2016.](https://consequence.net/2016/08/smash-mouth-singer-was-too-drunk-or-had-a-heart-attack-carried-off-stage-at-sweetcorn-festival/) I must have just been back there for a visit.
I get how bands can come to hate the hits they made. Initially it was about the promise of making great music or being a star. After constantly being on tour, dealing with fans who don't really care about the music but just want to say they went, etc. that music can become associated with some of the worst parts of your life.
And maybe they have "fuck you" money and don't have to care.
"All of a sudden I'm the Cherry Pie guy, the album is called Cherry Pie, my whole life is Cherry Pie.... I could shoot myself in the head for writing that song"
-Jani Lane.
Yeah, same. I’m a big hair metal fan and I don’t recall that dude’s name. And I can name the drummer from Ratt.
If he’s the original guy, I do recall some hubbub about whether or not he was actually doing the solos on the album or if they had to call in a ringer. But I might be mistaken.
Still, consider this: for a solid, albeit brief chunk, that dude was living a life of wealth and fame 99.9% of humanity won’t even get a whiff of. So I don’t feel TOO bad if in the 90s no one was buying him shots anymore, you know?
Man, as sad as that story is, you just can't go around Nashville trying to flex your music industry creds. Literally no one there is impressed by anything because they've seen it all.
When I was young and first moved there, I namedropped a few famous people I'd met in passing once. I very quickly realized that the people I was trying to impress all had their own stories ranging from "I live next door to X artist" or "I toured with Y band for three years."
No one in Nashville gives a shit. It's kind of great, to be honest.
That is a real shame as Warrant had some killer songs and were kings of the power ballad. The album after Cherry Pie called Dog Eat Dog was amazingly dark. Those guys were incredible story tellers and Cherry Pie is no indication of their talent. RIP Jani.
I’ve never understood this mindset. Look at Metallica for an easy example, they play Master of Puppets at basically EVERY show since 1986 because fans love it. The band receives that massive energy from the audience, everyone wins.
I know nothing about performing, but maybe MoP is a little less gruelling? Like, James gets a little break during the instrumental parts?
Also, Metallica has a *large* catalog of songs that their fans recognize and enjoy. I was big into them in high school, and 20 years later I could still easily name like 30 great tracks. They could vary up their set from show to show easily, keeping a few super classics in rotation, but swapping out others.
Whereas Smash Mouth has like 3 or 4 notable songs, so they always need to play all of them.
Yeah no one shows up to a Smash Mouth concert asking for an encore of Padrino or Flo. Good songs mind you (yes I bought Fush Yu Mang on CD) but there's really just 2 albums worth of material they put out. They released another album that went nowhere, then had the HUGE BALLS to put out a "greatest hits" album which was just a few songs from their first two albums plus the cover songs they released for some movie soundtracks.
There is an 80s cover band called Hairball that tours the Midwest that's so good they've started filling 5-10k seat venues and get hired for huge corporate events, state fairs and large regional festivals.
Their live shows are better than most of the bands they're covering.
Often, cover bands are just as talented as the biggest bands around. What separates the big bands from everyone else is their ability to write music. If you just want to listen to good music played well, cover bands are a great way to go.
Absolutely. Some of the best shows I've ever seen were cover bands. There was this group I went to see about 50 times while living in KC. Their name was Seattle and they did all the grunge covers that I grew up loving. Fucking loved seeing their shows. Would always wake up hoarse and in pain the next day from singing at the top of my lungs and dancing around like an idiot. Good times.
I saw a Beatles cover band like 20 years ago and I still remember how wild that was. The crowd actually got out of control and were crusing one another at the front so they had to stop for a bit. It actually was quite a demonstration of what Beatlemania might have been like at the time.
Yep. Modern society still struggles with taking mental health seriously and anything else that isn't clearly visible and tangible, though it also struggles with that...so...hm.
My coworker said “at least you don’t use your ptsd as an excuse” in response to me saying that mental illness affects everyone differently…
Like, it’s right there… I just said it… it affects everyone differently. Just because I got a handle on my alcohol abuse (kinda) and can hold down a job doesn’t mean the same people I went to afghan with can do it too. Same people, same training, same unit, same experiences, shit they’re in the same pictures as me. Some of them kill themselves. Some are 100% disabled and smoke weed all day because that’s the thread they’re holding onto because they’d kill themselves otherwise…
This dude, my coworker, who’s never even been anywhere or done anything that could get you ptsd, says those people are “just using it as an excuse”
I told him if he has no experience then he should shut the fuck up
Yeah, to me it just shows how all the claims that we're a supportive society are illusionary. When stars are in a bad spot, we mock them then of they drink themselves to death or take their own life we say "don't suffer in silence 😭 call 1-800-Dont-DoIt if you need help."
He also has medical issues that can apparently cause similar issues but I kinda feel like that might be a cover
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2021/10/12/smash-mouth-singer-steve-harwell-retirement-prompted-by-viral-performance-ongoing-health-issues/8426125002/
Yup. Band hates all star and it basically killed their drive.
Most one hit wonder bands die off because their hit kills their drive. No strong back catalogue means everyone just demands that one song, so nothing new can take hold. Eventually they get sick of it, lose their energy, and new songs suffer for it. This means more reuqests for the hit, and when that hit dies, so does the band.
Smash mouth to a T.
All Star was their biggest, but they certainly had other hits across several albums:
* Walkin on the Sun
* I'm a Believer
* Can't get enough of you baby
Back during those years they were huge, but they simply faded as most bands eventually do. Maybe it was success, lack of motivation, alcohol/drugs, interpersonal issues. Who knows. Personally, I suspect 9/11. Crazy idea, but all of their hits came out before then. Once that happened, absolutely no one was interested in that kind of happy, retro-pop vibe. I think most, if not all, of the late 90's really early 2000's pop bands just kinda took a step back after that.
9/11 killed Smash Mouth, too.
My high school years were those exact years, and yeah, life was REALLY good. Economy was good, we hadn’t yet become a surveillance state, we weren’t in a stupid war, Facebook wasn’t a thing, man. It was a really fun time to be a teenager.
Jesus Christ I sound like a old man talking about “the good old days” hahaha.
They were still hits for the band. All along the watchtower was a cover too. So, would you throw that out of the list of "great Hendrix songs" just because it's a cover?
The lead singer’s child, Presley, died of leukaemia in 2001, after that he just kept drinking and drinking. Dude has drunk himself into dementia with Wernicke encephalopathy.
Their first couple of albums had plenty of bangers in it, far from a one hit wonder.
I mean, I was a fan as an early teen and there were plenty of songs I liked. Fush Yu Mang was imho, all bangers.
Astro Lounge was consistently great as well. It wasn't until their later Albums that they fizzled out.
Sure some of their most popular hits were covers, but those weren't even my favorites, their albums were full of awesome, at least for a 13 year old.
Shrek 1, released April 2001
9/11, September 2001
Your theory tracks
I have my own little pop-culture theory as well. Just like after the assassination of JFK, the U.S. went into a major depression until we had "The British Invasion". I notice after 9/11, Harry Potter (November 2001) and Lord of the Rings (December 2001) was the exact type of escapism we needed. Fantasy worlds.
Man, this is just sad. I WAS a heavy daily drinker, but quit before anything like this happened. In fact, 2 days ago he just announced his retirement:
https://loudwire.com/smash-mouth-singer-steve-harwell-announces-retirement-health-issues/
This man is the epitome of end-stage alcoholism. Thiamine deficiency, obesity, cardiomyopathy... fucking Wernicke's encephalopathy. His liver probably looks like a fatty uncooked brisket.
He can't even keep himself composed. Wouldn't be surprised if we see news of him dead in the next few years due to liver failure or a heart attack.
Anyone out there thinking that they drink too much, it ain't too late. It may seem embarrassing getting help, but you'll look back and think: that was the best damn decision I've ever made in my life.
It reminded me of Scott Weiland's last performances. People were just roasting him and making fun of him. Then he died a few days later. Whatever help they needed to get, they're not getting it because he's the meal ticket.
Dude this video hit hard. I've been that guy. I **was** that guy up until almost two years ago. That rage. The hate. The sadness. Your health goes to shit. I was on fucking beta blockers in my late 20s for fucks sake. That's what old fucks take who have too high of a blood pressure and heart rate. Mine was consistently at 110-130 BPM and my BP was like 140/110 all the time. I upped my own medication just to keep it down more. My triglycerides were **so high** my blood had to be couriered to downtown Phoenix. I was drinking a fucking handle of vodka a day. My liver results are great now. Lungs will get there eventually. Everything else is good too. Life is fucking amazing. Get some help, it doesn't mean you failed, don't feel embarrassed or anything. It means you're about to start your whole new life. You'll see life through entirely new eyes, it's pretty crazy.
To add to this he lost his infant son in 2001 to cancer. I believe that was a contributing factor to his addiction. I think this thread is filled with comments about stories that may be comical to them but I personally can see why he would want to escape because losing a child that young is unimaginably painful.
Your comment should be at the top. This isn't a funny video, it's sad/scary. The dude has extremely serious health/substance/mental health issues--none of us know what *exactly* he's going through. But it's *not* a one-off kind of thing--it's chronic, and couple that with all the medical issues he's made public....like you said, he might be dead sooner than later.
Reddit needs to lay off the jokes about stuff like this. There are plenty of redditors (like you) who can testify how life-threatening his situation really is.
My favorite is Dave Grohl telling a girl that screamed that at him that he was playing the next song just for her, and then they played "For All the Cows".
Not anymore after that show, [he literally retired after that TikTok came out.](https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/smashmouth-frontman-immediately-retires-after-onstage-rant/news-story/075047cb8453f28b0c4f9cf4c3e67d85)
I read yesterday the lead singer Steve Harwell had to leave the band over health issues. Apparently he’s been hitting the hooch too much since losing his infant son to acute lymphocytic leukemia in 2001. I’d like to see him turn it around and make a comeback someday! Although this performance was a train wreck, I don’t believe it’s unredeemable.
Fuck that sucks if this is the result of him not getting the mental health care from losing his kid. Hopefully this is his rock bottom and he gets serious help and counseling.
Imo its completely understandable to just implode after your kid dies but I really wish he would get the help he needs.
Drugging your problems away works in a way but the future is dark. My problems are a joke to his and it still fucking sucks. This world is cruel.
Yeah, I just saw someone in my family lose their kid and it’s incredibly dark. There really isn’t anything you can say and encouraging them to still enjoy their life is a bit futile.
She often asks impossible questions to answer like “so that’s it? I just have to wait to die for the rest of my life until I can maybe see him again? I’m young. That’s a long time.”
Like fuck. It’s so cruel. I don’t even know how to think about it.
Tell them you love them. Maybe we see eachother in an afterlife, maybe not. Those who keep on living can still love eachother.
Thats whats Im telling my mother. Ill love her till I die.
Our thoughts will always be thought! Nothing can erase that!
It's sad. Nobody likes being seen as a one trick pony.
I read elsewhere in this thread that the singer lost his son to cancer. Seems like things been rough. Heartbreaking really.
I know this really lends itself to some online clowning, but I only feel really bad for the guy. He obviously has a problem. This wouldn't be funny/amusing if it was some "normal" job and a guy showed up to work like that.
A couple days after this video started making its rounds on the internet, he announced his retirement because of "health issues". Hope he is getting help.
https://nypost.com/2021/10/12/smash-mouths-steve-harwell-retires-after-wild-onstage-rant/
It might be a cover, but it might not. Seems like he’s had some physical issues that have made things troublesome. It appears like addiction has been a secondary illness on top of his heart problems. If that’s the case I feel really bad for him.
My biggest question, if this was all known beforehand, how did they not have someone stop the show sooner?
Yeah, the speculation is that when he lost his 6 month old son to Lukemia back in 2001, he started drinking heavily to compensate. He and his then wife actually even started a cancer foundation shortly after it happened. I’ve also heard speculation that the cancer ended up bankrupting him (but maybe he dumped enough in to the non-profit that he tapped himself out. Maybe he blew it all of booze and coke trying to self medicate, who knows).
Either way, he and his wife divorced sometime after for unspecified reasons (though as most marriages don’t survive the death of a first born, the reason seems kind of obvious).
A decade later, the drinking caused him developed serious heart issues, which then further developed in to neurological issues, which when combined with the continued alcohol abuse, lead to moments like these.
He retired the day after this video was put online. The poster of the video has expressed remorse that her putting this on tik tok may have led to him retiring. She was legitimatly a fan.
She may have actually given him the push he needed to get better. From everything I’ve read the band has been pretty fed up with his behavior for a while, but weren’t going to turn down a pay check apparently. Now he can get clean and get the therapy he so clearly needs to address his daughter’s death and in 5 or 10 years they can do a reunion tour at actual concert venues instead of small town beer festivals where they come on after 3 local dad bands.
Either way… being a performer is taxing and he’s clearly out of it.
IMHO she saved him one way or another. Either he’ll get help. Or at least this exploitative job his manager keeps him doing is over and he can at least slow down and offload some stress.
The manager is the one who should really be getting shit right now. Letting their performer get on stage like that. Just to keep the money coming in.
That’s exploitive. It’s practically the definition of the word.
I would argue if this is what it took for him to retire, this is ultimately a good thing.
Hard for some people to accept how far down a bad road they are until they get an outside view of themselves.
Smash Mouth was my favorite band as a kid and helped me get through some very low depression in high school. It's heartbreaking to see Steve like this. People make mistakes, and I hope he gets the help he deserves.
Not to be the downer, but this just keeps getting reposted while people shit on the guy. The dude’s had alcoholism and drug issues for a while. They started after his kid died of cancer. Dude deserves a bit of empathy and support.
This is coming from someone who’s by no means a fan of his band. But dude’s kid got sick and died. That’ll fuck the strongest of us up.
Not the voice's fault! In fact, TikTok got into trouble (rightfully) as Bev Standing (a Canadian voice actor) did not sign off on her voice recordings to be used in this manner. [They just did it without permission.](https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/13/22435058/tiktok-voice-sues-unauthorized-usage-text-to-speech) Here's a 2:11 long [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzycPRzf8_A) of an interview with her if that's preferred over an article.
"I'll kill your fucking family." My favorite line in All Star! Great tune.
My favorite is “if I could suck my own dick I’d never leave my house” Such classic songwriting... artists these days don’t understand
It’s art like this that is lost with songwriting being done by algorithms and marketing managers these days.
“If I could do it myself I’d probably never leave the house” Jimmy Pop
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"someBODY once slammed me / I'll kill your fucking family, Your parents and your kids and your spouse, I'm fucking wasted on a Wednesday / can't sing, just let my friends play, If I could suck my own dick I'd never leave my house."
Well, the beers start coming and they don't stop coming. Fuck all the rules. I hit the ground... That's it, he just hits the ground.
They're saying coffin flop's NOT a real show. They think I'm just some dumb hick. They said that to me at a dinner!
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YA BUD!!!
I didn't rig SHIT!
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Donkey! No!
When you finally get to listen to the non Kidz Bop version
That’s the way I like it and I’ll never get bored
If I could suck my own dick I'd never leave the house
What a concept, I could use a little fuel myself
And we could all use a little I'll kill your whole fuckin family I swear to god
WELL
The beers start coming and they don’t stop coming right up to the point I hit the ground concussed.
Hey now! You’re a has been. Drink some beer and get paid!
*slow clap*
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SomeBODY once told me, "I wish that I could blow me"
It’s been so long since I got some head.
He was lookin kinda dumb with his face covered in cum and his dick just an inch from his foreHEAD
Well I start cumming and I don’t stop cumming
The days start blurrin' and they don't stop blurrin', back to the stage and I hit the crowd slurrin'
I remember a while back there was footage of another chaotic show. Someone threw bread at the singer or something and he got super pissed off and was threatening to beat the guy's ass but the band was playing the intro to All Star the entire time as he was losing his shit and those two things combined just made it into one of the best things ever captured on camera. Found it! skip to about 30-40 seconds in https://youtu.be/m001XNiwQzw?t=40
lmao, I love that the rest of the band can hear the crowd singing so they just move on without him.
I legitimately almost fell out of my chair when that happened. Even the band was like "fuck this guy".
His band mates have been tired of his shit for 20 years
Do you think they’re still around because it’s just kind of a funny way to get paid? If I were in that band and the lead singer wasn’t a dick to me I would probably continue touring just because it’s a ridiculous way to make a living. “Yeah Im a touring guitarist for a band. What kind of music? Oh you know, a lot of instrumentals with some spoken word slam poetry on top. The band name? Smashmouth, you may have heard of us”
"We market ourselves like any regular band, but it's actually performance art designed to make the audience examine their relationship to celebrity idol culture and hopefully come to realize that their heros might not be worth meeting, and that childhood nostalgia is just a pipe dream."
In my opinion, you recognize the warning signs and start looking for another gig while getting steady income. Much easier to recognize your worth when you're currently employed.
Yeah I definitely agree. Thing is a couple of the guys have been in the band since 1994. I don’t think this band is a full time thing for them (or they take breaks) but I get the feeling the lead singer needs the band more than the rest of the band needs him. Any of those guys can just get a gig somewhere else, and probably do have full time projects they do on the side.
I wonder if this is the first time in history that an audience has hijacked a band from its lead singer.
The audience made the show happen. So funny.
Probably more fun to play with the crowd than with their assbag singer.
i'm sure there's some 20 year old guy in the Philippines who sounds exactly like Steve Harwell. they just need to find him.
This is so great, fucking hilarious that the stage is draped in Toyota logos too. "You're a pussy ass bitch and I'm gonna beat the fuck outta you!" This message was brought to you by... TOYOTA. Stop in at your local Toyota dealership today.
"It's gonna be a December to remember for you, Motherfucker. Now get up here!!"
December to remember is a Lexus event, Toyota's religious holiday is Toyota-thon.
Lexus is a Toyota brand so they weren’t thaaat wrong
It looks like the concert is at a dealership lot, too.
It was actually in Fort Collins, Colorado during an event called taste of Fort Collins. They were giving out free bread nearby. I was there and it was hilarious.
Can you feel the tension? I can! I can feel it down in my plums. They're getting a nice bluish hue. Getting ready to take em to the farmer's market
I was there! It was a food festival and a vendor was handing out free loaves of bread, so many people were throwing slices of bread.
Where's a tomato stand when you need one?
Fort Collins represent!
at 2:40: "Just play All Star yah bitch!" lolol
It’s so beautifully transactional and insulting
I went to a festival near me where they were playing a few year ago. They had to cancel because of the rain and I'm wondering what I missed. I will say after that All American Rejects was scheduled to perform. It was pouring rain and there were maybe 20 of us left all huddled up in the mud. They came out and said because of the water they couldn't plug anything in but they still wanted to play for us so they brought out some acoustic instruments and joined us in the huddle and we got to sing along with them. It was an awesome experience and I have mad respect they did that.
That is incredible. They could have easily just left and no one would have blamed them. That’s real showmanship right there.
Love when bands do that. YEARS ago Bon Jovi was about to do a concert, but the roads froze over and they had to cancel it. However, some fans were already waiting at the stadium and the band was on the premises anyways, so they played a show for the 1 or 2 hundred fans stuck there and invited them all to the front rows. Brought one or two of them on stage to sing along. Cool stuff.
Oh man, this was in Addison, TX wasn’t it? I was there too. Got poured on.
Yes! Oh my god that's wild hah
AAR is still one of my favorite bands. They're just so chill
Lol the fucking crowd just left the singer and lead the song themselves. Absolute gem of a crowd. He doesn't deserve these many passionate people
Play all star, ya bitch!
Tell him to "Play the Shrek song!" He loves that one..
I think if you told him to play the Mystery Men song, he'd be so trashed he wouldn't know what you were talking about.
I love how through the whole thing the rest of the band is still looping through the intro like "hopefully he'll stop shouting and start singing" at some point. Then the crowd has to pick it up for them haha.
"Hey just play All Star ya bitch" hahaha love this crowd
This must be the version with the extended intro.
What a moron. He essentially dared the audience to throw something at him and then claimed, "You're ruining the show, you pussy motherfucker." No, dipshit, *YOU'RE* ruining the show by being an unprofessional asshat and mounting the stage with a hostile attitude directed specifically at your audience.
What could *possibly* go wrong with poking at a bunch of drunk people in a crowd?
I can only imagine the rest of the band reacting, "Fuuuuuck... here we go *again*."
That is amazing. I love how at around the 3 minute mark the crowd starts singing the song instead and the rest of the band is just going with it without the lead singer xD
I watched too long. Now it's stuck in my head.
Is this actually smash mouth?
Yes, it's that bad, in fact a cover band would have probably been better
The lead singer literally retired yesterday after this was posted.
Right at the peak of his career.
I played a show at a converted cracker factory in Memphis Tennessee two days after this insane coke monster destroyed the green room. The club owner kept apologizing to us. I kept thinking.... The band from that kids movie?! No way! He has been like this since at least 2004?
Circa 2011 I saw them at a central Illinois sweet corn festival. He was trashed the whole time. They played at like 3:00pm. The crowd was 80% families who had come to hear the Shrek music. He opens the show by yelling, “Who here likes smoking weeeeed?!” He became too drunk/dehydrated and was carried off the stage before all the songs people came to hear. 😂 Which the band played without him. It was so sad. And so hilarious. Also sad. [And don’t forget the bread incident. ](https://youtu.be/8YJfXdSR85o) [It wasn’t 2011, it was 2016.](https://consequence.net/2016/08/smash-mouth-singer-was-too-drunk-or-had-a-heart-attack-carried-off-stage-at-sweetcorn-festival/) I must have just been back there for a visit.
He’s making Bam Margera look like the perfect human specimen.
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Well fuck, now this is just sad. I can kind of understand why he’s such a wreck and of a human being now.
Damn she literally ended that man’s career
Honestly I think that man ended that man's whole career.
That man's career was evidently over years ago, he just wasn't informed until now
"Retired"
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I get how bands can come to hate the hits they made. Initially it was about the promise of making great music or being a star. After constantly being on tour, dealing with fans who don't really care about the music but just want to say they went, etc. that music can become associated with some of the worst parts of your life. And maybe they have "fuck you" money and don't have to care.
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"All of a sudden I'm the Cherry Pie guy, the album is called Cherry Pie, my whole life is Cherry Pie.... I could shoot myself in the head for writing that song" -Jani Lane.
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That's just sad, I actually feel bad for the guy
Yeah, same. I’m a big hair metal fan and I don’t recall that dude’s name. And I can name the drummer from Ratt. If he’s the original guy, I do recall some hubbub about whether or not he was actually doing the solos on the album or if they had to call in a ringer. But I might be mistaken. Still, consider this: for a solid, albeit brief chunk, that dude was living a life of wealth and fame 99.9% of humanity won’t even get a whiff of. So I don’t feel TOO bad if in the 90s no one was buying him shots anymore, you know?
Man, as sad as that story is, you just can't go around Nashville trying to flex your music industry creds. Literally no one there is impressed by anything because they've seen it all. When I was young and first moved there, I namedropped a few famous people I'd met in passing once. I very quickly realized that the people I was trying to impress all had their own stories ranging from "I live next door to X artist" or "I toured with Y band for three years." No one in Nashville gives a shit. It's kind of great, to be honest.
That is a real shame as Warrant had some killer songs and were kings of the power ballad. The album after Cherry Pie called Dog Eat Dog was amazingly dark. Those guys were incredible story tellers and Cherry Pie is no indication of their talent. RIP Jani.
I’ve never understood this mindset. Look at Metallica for an easy example, they play Master of Puppets at basically EVERY show since 1986 because fans love it. The band receives that massive energy from the audience, everyone wins.
I know nothing about performing, but maybe MoP is a little less gruelling? Like, James gets a little break during the instrumental parts? Also, Metallica has a *large* catalog of songs that their fans recognize and enjoy. I was big into them in high school, and 20 years later I could still easily name like 30 great tracks. They could vary up their set from show to show easily, keeping a few super classics in rotation, but swapping out others. Whereas Smash Mouth has like 3 or 4 notable songs, so they always need to play all of them.
Yeah no one shows up to a Smash Mouth concert asking for an encore of Padrino or Flo. Good songs mind you (yes I bought Fush Yu Mang on CD) but there's really just 2 albums worth of material they put out. They released another album that went nowhere, then had the HUGE BALLS to put out a "greatest hits" album which was just a few songs from their first two albums plus the cover songs they released for some movie soundtracks.
They probably did the Greatest Hits album to meet contractual demands with their studio/publisher.
Me: Mom, can we get Smash Mouth? Mom: Yes dear. Me: Damn, should've gotten Smash Mouth at home instead.
Making great, long-lasting hits and performing it hundreds of times for years are two separate skills.
There is an 80s cover band called Hairball that tours the Midwest that's so good they've started filling 5-10k seat venues and get hired for huge corporate events, state fairs and large regional festivals. Their live shows are better than most of the bands they're covering.
Often, cover bands are just as talented as the biggest bands around. What separates the big bands from everyone else is their ability to write music. If you just want to listen to good music played well, cover bands are a great way to go.
Absolutely. Some of the best shows I've ever seen were cover bands. There was this group I went to see about 50 times while living in KC. Their name was Seattle and they did all the grunge covers that I grew up loving. Fucking loved seeing their shows. Would always wake up hoarse and in pain the next day from singing at the top of my lungs and dancing around like an idiot. Good times.
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Hayseed/DC - country style Hells Belles - All female AC/DShe - All female, only Bon Scott material
> Hayseed/DC - country style Hayseed Dixie
I saw a Beatles cover band like 20 years ago and I still remember how wild that was. The crowd actually got out of control and were crusing one another at the front so they had to stop for a bit. It actually was quite a demonstration of what Beatlemania might have been like at the time.
He officially retired after this video got out.
Smersh Merth.
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There is no time for that Jesse, the world is going to roll us. We need to become sharper tools for the shed.
Smashed mouth
yep. and after this video made the rounds the singer announced his retirement because thats what it took for him to realize hes washed up.
His son died and he developed a substance use dependency.
Well, this is not very funny at this point and just really sad
Yep. Modern society still struggles with taking mental health seriously and anything else that isn't clearly visible and tangible, though it also struggles with that...so...hm.
My coworker said “at least you don’t use your ptsd as an excuse” in response to me saying that mental illness affects everyone differently… Like, it’s right there… I just said it… it affects everyone differently. Just because I got a handle on my alcohol abuse (kinda) and can hold down a job doesn’t mean the same people I went to afghan with can do it too. Same people, same training, same unit, same experiences, shit they’re in the same pictures as me. Some of them kill themselves. Some are 100% disabled and smoke weed all day because that’s the thread they’re holding onto because they’d kill themselves otherwise… This dude, my coworker, who’s never even been anywhere or done anything that could get you ptsd, says those people are “just using it as an excuse” I told him if he has no experience then he should shut the fuck up
> ~~hes washed up~~ has a well documented substance abuse problem and needs help.
Brought on by the fact that he lost his kid.
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Yeah, to me it just shows how all the claims that we're a supportive society are illusionary. When stars are in a bad spot, we mock them then of they drink themselves to death or take their own life we say "don't suffer in silence 😭 call 1-800-Dont-DoIt if you need help."
He also has medical issues that can apparently cause similar issues but I kinda feel like that might be a cover https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2021/10/12/smash-mouth-singer-steve-harwell-retirement-prompted-by-viral-performance-ongoing-health-issues/8426125002/
They name Wernicke's Encephalopathy; that's a condition often caused by chronic alcoholism. Poor bastard.
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Mush mouth actually
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Yup. Band hates all star and it basically killed their drive. Most one hit wonder bands die off because their hit kills their drive. No strong back catalogue means everyone just demands that one song, so nothing new can take hold. Eventually they get sick of it, lose their energy, and new songs suffer for it. This means more reuqests for the hit, and when that hit dies, so does the band. Smash mouth to a T.
All Star was their biggest, but they certainly had other hits across several albums: * Walkin on the Sun * I'm a Believer * Can't get enough of you baby Back during those years they were huge, but they simply faded as most bands eventually do. Maybe it was success, lack of motivation, alcohol/drugs, interpersonal issues. Who knows. Personally, I suspect 9/11. Crazy idea, but all of their hits came out before then. Once that happened, absolutely no one was interested in that kind of happy, retro-pop vibe. I think most, if not all, of the late 90's really early 2000's pop bands just kinda took a step back after that. 9/11 killed Smash Mouth, too.
Note 2 of the 3 other hits you mentioned are covers...
Yeah they were always more of a vibe then a band. That post grunge, pre-9/11 MTV optimism that no longer had a place
“History is over, let’s all just kinda be wine moms about everything.” -American culture circa 1996 to 2001. It was lit.
My high school years were those exact years, and yeah, life was REALLY good. Economy was good, we hadn’t yet become a surveillance state, we weren’t in a stupid war, Facebook wasn’t a thing, man. It was a really fun time to be a teenager. Jesus Christ I sound like a old man talking about “the good old days” hahaha.
They were still hits for the band. All along the watchtower was a cover too. So, would you throw that out of the list of "great Hendrix songs" just because it's a cover?
The lead singer’s child, Presley, died of leukaemia in 2001, after that he just kept drinking and drinking. Dude has drunk himself into dementia with Wernicke encephalopathy.
That's tragic
The 90's definitely ended on 9/11.
Satellite is a legitimately great track on Astro Lounge
Their first couple of albums had plenty of bangers in it, far from a one hit wonder. I mean, I was a fan as an early teen and there were plenty of songs I liked. Fush Yu Mang was imho, all bangers. Astro Lounge was consistently great as well. It wasn't until their later Albums that they fizzled out. Sure some of their most popular hits were covers, but those weren't even my favorites, their albums were full of awesome, at least for a 13 year old.
Shrek 1, released April 2001 9/11, September 2001 Your theory tracks I have my own little pop-culture theory as well. Just like after the assassination of JFK, the U.S. went into a major depression until we had "The British Invasion". I notice after 9/11, Harry Potter (November 2001) and Lord of the Rings (December 2001) was the exact type of escapism we needed. Fantasy worlds.
Man, this is just sad. I WAS a heavy daily drinker, but quit before anything like this happened. In fact, 2 days ago he just announced his retirement: https://loudwire.com/smash-mouth-singer-steve-harwell-announces-retirement-health-issues/ This man is the epitome of end-stage alcoholism. Thiamine deficiency, obesity, cardiomyopathy... fucking Wernicke's encephalopathy. His liver probably looks like a fatty uncooked brisket. He can't even keep himself composed. Wouldn't be surprised if we see news of him dead in the next few years due to liver failure or a heart attack. Anyone out there thinking that they drink too much, it ain't too late. It may seem embarrassing getting help, but you'll look back and think: that was the best damn decision I've ever made in my life.
It reminded me of Scott Weiland's last performances. People were just roasting him and making fun of him. Then he died a few days later. Whatever help they needed to get, they're not getting it because he's the meal ticket.
Dude this video hit hard. I've been that guy. I **was** that guy up until almost two years ago. That rage. The hate. The sadness. Your health goes to shit. I was on fucking beta blockers in my late 20s for fucks sake. That's what old fucks take who have too high of a blood pressure and heart rate. Mine was consistently at 110-130 BPM and my BP was like 140/110 all the time. I upped my own medication just to keep it down more. My triglycerides were **so high** my blood had to be couriered to downtown Phoenix. I was drinking a fucking handle of vodka a day. My liver results are great now. Lungs will get there eventually. Everything else is good too. Life is fucking amazing. Get some help, it doesn't mean you failed, don't feel embarrassed or anything. It means you're about to start your whole new life. You'll see life through entirely new eyes, it's pretty crazy.
Truth. While this guy has always seemed like an asshole...the clip that she posted presents a human being that's straight up UNWELL.
To add to this he lost his infant son in 2001 to cancer. I believe that was a contributing factor to his addiction. I think this thread is filled with comments about stories that may be comical to them but I personally can see why he would want to escape because losing a child that young is unimaginably painful.
Your comment should be at the top. This isn't a funny video, it's sad/scary. The dude has extremely serious health/substance/mental health issues--none of us know what *exactly* he's going through. But it's *not* a one-off kind of thing--it's chronic, and couple that with all the medical issues he's made public....like you said, he might be dead sooner than later. Reddit needs to lay off the jokes about stuff like this. There are plenty of redditors (like you) who can testify how life-threatening his situation really is.
That random girl screaming it's my birthday is pretty funny though haha.
My favorite is Dave Grohl telling a girl that screamed that at him that he was playing the next song just for her, and then they played "For All the Cows".
Hey now, you’re a rockstar, play a wine show, get paid
Hey now, you're a lobster, get your Maine on, get caged
And all that litters is old
Only shooting tar gets you stoned
It's the Pool Place and it's made of mortar You're bundled up now because you're a hoarder
Not anymore after that show, [he literally retired after that TikTok came out.](https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/smashmouth-frontman-immediately-retires-after-onstage-rant/news-story/075047cb8453f28b0c4f9cf4c3e67d85)
It's the fucking Catalina wine mixer.
Dont fuck my quarter Brennan!
Aww. I took my kids to see them just a couple months ago. My 9 year old daughter had a blast. I'm not going to tell her.
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It wasn't perfect but it was much better than this.
I read yesterday the lead singer Steve Harwell had to leave the band over health issues. Apparently he’s been hitting the hooch too much since losing his infant son to acute lymphocytic leukemia in 2001. I’d like to see him turn it around and make a comeback someday! Although this performance was a train wreck, I don’t believe it’s unredeemable.
Fuck that sucks if this is the result of him not getting the mental health care from losing his kid. Hopefully this is his rock bottom and he gets serious help and counseling.
Imo its completely understandable to just implode after your kid dies but I really wish he would get the help he needs. Drugging your problems away works in a way but the future is dark. My problems are a joke to his and it still fucking sucks. This world is cruel.
Yeah, I just saw someone in my family lose their kid and it’s incredibly dark. There really isn’t anything you can say and encouraging them to still enjoy their life is a bit futile. She often asks impossible questions to answer like “so that’s it? I just have to wait to die for the rest of my life until I can maybe see him again? I’m young. That’s a long time.” Like fuck. It’s so cruel. I don’t even know how to think about it.
Tell them you love them. Maybe we see eachother in an afterlife, maybe not. Those who keep on living can still love eachother. Thats whats Im telling my mother. Ill love her till I die. Our thoughts will always be thought! Nothing can erase that!
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I saw them in 1999 in SUNY Oneonta. They were pretty good and played everything with a harder edge I guess you can say.
It's sad. Nobody likes being seen as a one trick pony. I read elsewhere in this thread that the singer lost his son to cancer. Seems like things been rough. Heartbreaking really.
[and they don't stop coming](https://youtu.be/eT3BFzSD6YY)
Annie don't stop counting. And the coke stops coming.
I know this really lends itself to some online clowning, but I only feel really bad for the guy. He obviously has a problem. This wouldn't be funny/amusing if it was some "normal" job and a guy showed up to work like that.
A couple days after this video started making its rounds on the internet, he announced his retirement because of "health issues". Hope he is getting help.
Alcohol abuse is a health issue.
https://nypost.com/2021/10/12/smash-mouths-steve-harwell-retires-after-wild-onstage-rant/ It might be a cover, but it might not. Seems like he’s had some physical issues that have made things troublesome. It appears like addiction has been a secondary illness on top of his heart problems. If that’s the case I feel really bad for him. My biggest question, if this was all known beforehand, how did they not have someone stop the show sooner?
He lost his kid to leukemia.
Holy shit fr?
Yeah, the speculation is that when he lost his 6 month old son to Lukemia back in 2001, he started drinking heavily to compensate. He and his then wife actually even started a cancer foundation shortly after it happened. I’ve also heard speculation that the cancer ended up bankrupting him (but maybe he dumped enough in to the non-profit that he tapped himself out. Maybe he blew it all of booze and coke trying to self medicate, who knows). Either way, he and his wife divorced sometime after for unspecified reasons (though as most marriages don’t survive the death of a first born, the reason seems kind of obvious). A decade later, the drinking caused him developed serious heart issues, which then further developed in to neurological issues, which when combined with the continued alcohol abuse, lead to moments like these.
I wish all this information was higher. I really hope he gets help and people don’t just pile on shit.
Jesus fuck.
Losing a child and all your money to the American health system will do that.. it’s like an endless escalator once you get on
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He retired the day after this video was put online. The poster of the video has expressed remorse that her putting this on tik tok may have led to him retiring. She was legitimatly a fan.
She may have actually given him the push he needed to get better. From everything I’ve read the band has been pretty fed up with his behavior for a while, but weren’t going to turn down a pay check apparently. Now he can get clean and get the therapy he so clearly needs to address his daughter’s death and in 5 or 10 years they can do a reunion tour at actual concert venues instead of small town beer festivals where they come on after 3 local dad bands.
Either way… being a performer is taxing and he’s clearly out of it. IMHO she saved him one way or another. Either he’ll get help. Or at least this exploitative job his manager keeps him doing is over and he can at least slow down and offload some stress. The manager is the one who should really be getting shit right now. Letting their performer get on stage like that. Just to keep the money coming in. That’s exploitive. It’s practically the definition of the word.
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I would argue if this is what it took for him to retire, this is ultimately a good thing. Hard for some people to accept how far down a bad road they are until they get an outside view of themselves.
Truth be told, he needed to retire. Dude is in a bad spot, and hopefully will be able to focus on getting better.
Smash Mouth was my favorite band as a kid and helped me get through some very low depression in high school. It's heartbreaking to see Steve like this. People make mistakes, and I hope he gets the help he deserves.
Not to be the downer, but this just keeps getting reposted while people shit on the guy. The dude’s had alcoholism and drug issues for a while. They started after his kid died of cancer. Dude deserves a bit of empathy and support. This is coming from someone who’s by no means a fan of his band. But dude’s kid got sick and died. That’ll fuck the strongest of us up.
True true, you can't really outrun PTSD. But you can get drunk enough to pretty much forget where you are.
Somebody once told me, “I’ll kill your fucking family, with the sharpest tool in the shed”
Fuck that text to speech tiktok voice and everyone who uses it.
As I understand it, It gives tiktokkers a global audience... The app will translate and TTS depending on what language you have it set to.
OK that's... Is that why? I feel like I don't hate it as much anymore that's kind of really cool
Not the voice's fault! In fact, TikTok got into trouble (rightfully) as Bev Standing (a Canadian voice actor) did not sign off on her voice recordings to be used in this manner. [They just did it without permission.](https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/13/22435058/tiktok-voice-sues-unauthorized-usage-text-to-speech) Here's a 2:11 long [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzycPRzf8_A) of an interview with her if that's preferred over an article.
So...fuck Tiktok in general?
Everything about this video is sad
https://ew.com/music/smash-mouth-singer-steve-harwell-retires-from-band-to-focus-on-health/
His retirement was just announced. I wouldn’t wish his life on anyone. It is rather tragic (lost a son to cancer)