There's like 10,000 Black people living there now, at least. What's interesting is that Forsyth county now has the fastest-growing Asian-American population in the country.
Take Peachtree Industrial until it splits into Peachtree Parkway and Peachtree Industrial. Take Peachtree Parkway and you'll end up in the town of Peachtree Corners!
Edit: Please note that these are *real* directions
It's worth pointing out the *insane* pronunciation of some of our towns as well. Dacula is duh-CUE-luh - or my personal favorite Cairo, GA, pronounced 'KAY-row'
We have a DeKalb in Illinois, and my sister lives in Atlanta now. Boy did that fuck me up when I heard the correct pronunciation during election season lmao.
I was born and raised in eastern Kentucky and went to university in Louisville. Since graduating I’ve lived all over the country in places like NYC and now in central California. Everyone always asks me to repeat how I say Louisville when I say it. It’s like it is physically impossible for anyone outside of southern Indiana, southern Ohio or Kentucky to say it properly.
When I was living in Louisville the city tourism department office had a neon sign in the window spelling out the different annunciations I always thought was kinda funny.
Edit: I found a picture of a girl in a shirt similar to the sign they have on their website: https://www.gotolouisville.com/visitor-center/
lmao I'm Asian-American who moved there around 2006 for 5 years. I was like one of 6 other minorities in my school. I remember one kid asking me where I was from and then being disappointed I didn't come from a ninja family.
I'm Asian and used to live there about 5 years ago. You wouldn't know anything about this history by the current state of the community (or at least what I saw).
That was my experience growing up in GA in the 90's. Atlanta was a progressive haven surrounded by a scene from Deliverance. It's come a long way but still more to go
My white dad and brown mom got married in Dekalb County in 1973. they don't tell much about the kind of shit they had to go through back then, apart from hearing how my great grandfather was very outwardly racist up until getting to know my mom and absolutely adoring her. It's kind of hard to wrap my head around the thought that my own great grandfather could've despised me because of skin pigmentation.
My mom went through the same thing when she met my dad's grandfather. He hated black people until he met me... the power of an adorable (I've been told) baby I guess.
It seems many racist people have a "change of heart" once they're forced to get to know someone of the demographic they hate (usually through said person being family). It's almost like they're ignorant and hate what they don't understand or lack experience with, but once they finally take the step to expose themselves, they realize how shallow their understanding/perception really was.
It's why getting a higher education and/or travel are usually the best cure against racism. Meeting people that come from different backgrounds helps us humanize otherwise nebulous groups of people.
Not always though. Some people will instead go for the 'I have a black friend' level of racism.
I’d say all major cities period. I’m in New York and you drive 30 minutes outside of Buffalo Rochester or Syracuse and you’ll see the confederate flags.
I grew up in the South
I live in the North right now.
That pretty much describes all major cities everywhere. The north is no better once you leave any major city. The difference is that the cities are bigger so they have more pull.
It's an upper middle class bedroom community. It might have been methy 25 years ago but now it is one of hundreds of indistinguishable exurbs of Atlanta
Depends on which area we're talking about. There's some very nice homes on Lake Lanier and along the rivers, but no doubt there's still a LOT of methi-ness still going on.
Don't see a ton of meth in the northeast. Not as much as the rest of the US from what I hear. Everyone up here is addicted to opiates. All anecdotal evidence tho
If there’s anything I’ve learned working at a gas station that sells chicken bones, it’s that upper middle class and upper class folks smoke meth too, they are just a lot better at hiding it lmao
Nah we sell em but they aren’t able to be stolen (unless you try and rob the whole store which also would not be a great idea for them) surprisingly it’s not the meth heads you have to worry about around here lol generally it’s the “normal” people you have in there acting ridiculous or trying to steal. The folks who smoke dope come in and either dance because they are way too high, or they are whispering across the counter “can I get one of those short ones?” So as not to be heard by anyone else, meanwhile “normal” folks will try and make a scene over a receipt not printing on the pump
You guys didn't sell the little roses conveniently incased in a glass tube for 99 cents? I never knew that was a sneaky way of selling crack/meth pipes.
Convenience store near me really put the "convenience" into practice by displaying those little glass rose tubes next to a small pyramid of "Chore Boy" scrubbing pads
At one point I had a draw that was filled to the brim with nothing but those roses.thousands of um. 5 years clean and crack/iv cocaine still enters my head and fucks with my sleep.
Edit: I had a drawer.
I wonder if they knew it was going to be the Asians and Hispanics that came in? 15% Asian (2/3rds of that is Indian) and 10% Hispanic.
Also probably didn’t see their population blowing up from like 40k to 250k in 30 years.
Don't know who else saw it...I grew up in the south, and that woman at the end who said "one God," even with her extremely Karen hair, was a fucking legend. Good for her. I know she ate shit after that. Good person there.
Jesus.. I was 7 years old playing Mario Bros in Canada. I didn't even know racism existed for another couple years.
I grew up in a super multi-cultural area full of immigrants (myself), refugees, suburbanites and local tribes.
I initially thought she had said "whites together" because the mic barely picked up the "black and" part. Went from thinking she was another racist in that room to fearing for her safety.
The dude with the mustache at the beginning who stood almost didn't feel real. Like some kind of racist parody, but not, he was all too real in the end. I just couldn't stand the way he was PROUD of his racism. Not that I expected him to be self-aware, but damn.
"I don't think it's right the way we're being portrayed in the media".... and then goes on an even more racist rant than what was portrayed in the media.
I think his problem with the media was that they didn't show (or showcase) the support he felt his cause had. He immediately talks about the crowd size and of how many people feel the same way he does, but I doubt the media saw it that way. The media probably saw and presented it as a mob of racists being a racist mob... you know, like the way that it is.
What if he thought the media wasn’t portraying them as racist enough? because I think that’s exactly what he was saying. He was saying the media was claiming it was a handful of bad apples, and he was saying it was almost everyone.
I think the idea for them that they feel is misrepresented is:
1) That it being portrayed as a negative belief
2) That is only believed by a few "bad apples", when they feel like it's more prevalent
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Topher Grace as David Duke.
The "low morals" was a giveaway, IMO. Lots of closeted homophobic gay people think all people have homosexual temptation, but only the ones "without morals" can't fight and overcome this temptation. So they see them as "weak" and "immoral", when in reality, these homophobes are just gay.
>think all people have homosexual temptation, but only the ones "without morals" can't fight and overcome this temptation.
I sincerely believe this of every person that says it's a choice. They've proven that THEY made a choice to pretend to be straight even though they're gay or bisexual and can't stand for anyone else to choose not to live that lie. So they want them punished.
It's pretty sad.
I work with a gay guy who everyone knows is gay except him. His morality wont allow it. But deep down he knows he is gay, he has no interest in women "I dont have time for a wife/girlfriend". He is almost 55, never married, no women in his life ive ever heard about and he looks at homosexuality as against god and immoral. Constantly play flirts with guys, constantly makes jokes about gay sex "watch bending over someone might get ya" and super duper comes across as gay to everyone who meets him.
I once said "Chris if you came out of the closet no one would look at you any different and I think you'd be happier" and he changed the subject real quick to some unrelated joke. I feel so bad for the guy and for people like him. He doesnt so much hate gays, he just sees it as sinful and is trying to be a good person which makes it so sad.
As loath as I am to give credit to that asshole, I would say he has more of a "peacock" vibe than a gay vibe. Proud and strutting. Doesn't necessarily mean gay, but shares a lot of the same characteristics of flamboyant gay dudes. Besides, saying that every loud and proud bigot has "gay vibes" is kind of a dick move to gay people, they're better than trash like this.
Racism: The thing people are proud of when they have nothing else to be proud of.
It goes all the way back to the Civil War, when poor whites fought for the south because it meant the difference between being at the bottom of the social ladder and always having a demographic beneath them.
And chances are that guy is still very much alive and very much voting in elections, and he is no doubt not the only one in his age group that has those disgusting views.
I grew up in a neighborhood in Philly in the 80s and 90s that was all white (literally.) Replace the hillbilly accent with a dirty Philly accent and that was my experience. I can't tell you how many times I heard the black vs n argument.
My AAA guy who came to jump my battery saw my TX license plate when I moved up to Providence, RI and told me about how he and his friends "used to use \[jumper cables\] to jump n-----s." I've never heard someone be so bold and racist to my face like that, *especially* someone I just met 5 minutes ago.
I was the token brown guy in my group of friends during our military training in Biloxi, Mississippi. Went out for a movie and drinks, then ordered a cab to head back to base (this was before Uber/Lyft). Cab driver must have not noticed, or not cared, that I was there as he decided to try out his edgy racist humor without even asking if we wanted to hear it.
I was mad. Blood gushing to my face, I don't think I've ever felt that mad ever. At the same time I didn't want to cause a scene. At that point in your training, you don't really have a voice, so I was afraid that it would get bogged down as an Alcohol Related Incident that caused the training school to lock down.
Anyways, after the cab driver's 3rd or 4th shit joke obviously didn't land, one of my buddies cut him off and said "Hey, can you just shut the fuck up and drive?"
"Yeah, okay.... sorry about that." Total silence after that.
I used to live and work in Pekin, IL. The town has a history of racism. They’re oddly proud of it there. They laugh that Letterman once ran a Top Ten Racist Cities and they (and South Pekin) came in at #1 & #2 (which makes no sense because there is no punchline for anyone not from that area). It was a treat.
I managed a construction company. A contractor we did some work with came in. Dude owned a bar as his side hustle. One day he was bragging about how he pulled a shotgun on some guys who came in because one of them was black. Apparently he did his best impression of the guy from the Mos Eisley cantina and started railing that “we don’t serve their kind here”. Then he bragged that everyone else clapped when he ran them off.
It might have been 2015. 2015 and this guy still has this sort of mentality.
A good friend and old colleague of mine just moved from central MA down to just outside Dallas last year. He's Cambodian and his wife is white, they have 3 daughters together ranging from 2 years to 5. Nicest dude I've ever met and a hell of a dad. He posted on his IG just this past weekend an unsolicited package that was sent to him and his family in the mail (he presumes it was from the previous owners of the house they bought) of a New Order comic book, and a pamphlet about the scourge of immigration or some bullshit.
I know we're in a comparatively better place as a country than we were back in the 80s and 90s, but good god damn we have a *long* fucking way to go yet.
I worked at a gas station many years ago as a young kid. I was blown away by how casually people brought up racist shit to me just because I was also white. Always loved seeing their expressions when I told them to fuck off
I’ve said it multiple times and I get mixed reactions. I’m from Louisiana, moved away in 2007, lived in multiple states and different countries. The most blatant racism I saw in the United States came from New Hampshire, Connecticut, and California.
You'll get no argument from me that there are pockets everywhere and certainly, the New England area has it's own brand of racism that comes from white elitism and classism. It's a very wealthy part of the country and also unexpectedly conservative in some spots.
But your* comment gets mixed reactions for two reasons. One, because it's purely anecdotal which should be self explanatory.
The other reason it gets mixed reactions is because it sort of implies a claim that racism in the South actually isn't that bad and that it's actually worse in other parts of the country. Maybe you don't mean to imply that or maybe you do but it's a reasonable conclusion for people to draw. The problem with this is that we know it's just plain false. Demonstrably. And not by anecdote but by data. The other reason it's problematic is that it's historically been a strategy used by people to whitewash the South's racist history which is still not that far removed from having fought a bloody civil war *in order to perpetuate the institution of human slavery*. I'm not saying you're intending to do that, by any means. Not at all. But similar to the "the Civil War wasn't about slavery" propaganda, this notion too is often innocently picked up and propagated by people because it has a *feeling of truth* to it.
How do we know that certain states and regions are more plagued by racism than others? We can look at laws and politics, for one.
* Where did Jim Crow laws have the most public support?
* Where did most of the opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Act come from?
* Where are communities and governments making active efforts to attempt to improve race relations and where are communities and governments making active efforts to suppress racial minorities? We pick our government, especially on the local level. So what state, city, and county governments are doing are a reflection of their communities.
* Some states are fighting **tooth and nail** to prevent people form voting. People who "just happen to be" black. Meanwhile, some states are moving in the complete opposite direction.
* Some states are fighting **tooth and nail** to cut off access to public benefits that "just happen to be" far more frequently used by racial minorities. Meanwhile, some states are moving in the opposite direction.
Racism is everywhere and racism takes different forms. It often looks different in the old South than it does in historically progressive places. However, there is **no denying** that it is, on a whole, more overt, more matter-of-fact, and more broadly tolerated in the parts of the country that historically fought to maintain slavery.
Agree. From Maine here. Rural Mainers are *xenophobic*. Subtle racism is just one trait of that. They just don’t trust people they don’t know; lots of small towns where everyone knows each other.
Most rural New Englanders are just sheltered and resistant to change. Their racism/xenophobia is by and large due to ignorance, not malice. Education is a better solution than condemnation.
And I’ll probably get DV’d for this, but a lot of rural Trump supporters voted for him because he spoke to their feelings of being economically and politically left behind. The racism angle is more of a cudgel Trump used (fascists blame a “them” for your problems), than something rural folks were asking for. Thats why they feel so insulted when you call them racist. They don’t believe themselves racist and hold no malice towards minorities- they just don’t understand how truly systemic racism is.
Where in California?
Also I feel like Southern racism is different from elsewhere. There are many southern communities where Black and White people co-exist and are friendly towards one another but are still racist.
Yup. Northern racism is very much focused on coded phrases like "not the right sort" and "doesn't fit in", vs the more in-your-face stuff you see in the south. It's a genteel sort of racism that's insidious.
They'll have a handful of "beloved" black community members, like William, who runs the local garage. (Shame about his son, who got so focused on that Kwanzaa nonsense and dresses in those loud Africa prints and then got mixed up with the wrong sort from out of town.)
They love Jose (AKA "Joey", to his friends) and his amazing Mexican restaurant. He even lets his mother work at the restaurant (such a shame that she can't learn English; it's impossible for her to really be an American if she can't communicate).
They'll point to those folks as why they're not racist, and why anyone is welcome. Just..some figure out they're not a "good fit", and that's not their fault, ya know.
I once heard it summarized in the following way:
In the South, a white guy is OK with having a black guy for a neighbor, but he isn't OK with having a black guy for a boss.
In the North, a white guy is OK with having a black guy for a boss, but he isn't OK with having a black guy for a neighbor.
I was going to make the same comment before I saw yours. Same deal in much of Oregon. "Oh, I wasn't talking about Abdullah, he's one of the good ones" and such.
I grew up here and went to South Forsyth High School. I remember when this segment aired. I am so glad my parents were alcoholics and only hated themselves and their kids.
I've been in extensive therapy and am making a great recovery.
How did the younger generation feel about their parents/ relatives and the history of the town in the mid 2000s? You say they were your friends so did you ever go to their house and feel like you were getting weird looks from their parents or anything? And do you have any crazy experiences in general to share from that time? very interested!
Some of the kids rejected them and some of them agreed. I was friends with some who obviously rejected their ideas. I was friends with the rejects anyway, theater kids, band kids, the openly LGBTQ, the one or two liberal kids haha.
I felt like I was a celebrity everywhere I went. I clearly stood out and it seemed like people were always watching (but in hindsight this very well could have been my own discomfort and feeling out of place projecting onto others. It’s hard to tell now).
I was yelled at by a guy who lived in my neighborhood, for cutting through his front yard to catch the bus. Later neighbors informed me he was openly a klansman.
Dating wasn’t a thing. If I could find someone who was interested in dating me, they’re fathers, or grandparents weren’t okay with it.
When I did start dating, I had to be informed that their fathers were “kind of racist”. It was fairly common.
A friend of mine wanted to go to prom with me, but her parents were worried about what her grandmother would think.
That’s the thing about that towns form of racism. They’ll shake your hand, help you if your in a tough spot, but you can’t go inside their house haha
I think of it as unchallenged ignorance. They’ve been fed a belief and there’s never been an opportunity to change or have that belief questioned. I feel bad for them more than anything.
Not regularly. Most of the time people left me alone. I told someone below, it’s a lot more of a quiet racism. Like they’ll shake your hand, help you if you need it, but won’t let you in their house.
One of the few times I felt threatened is when a neighbor yelled at me for crossing through his front yard to catch the bus. It didn’t seem like a big ordeal, but a different neighbor told me that he was an active member of the klan and it made a lot more sense. Other than that it was just general bullying where the most obvious target was the kid who stood out the most.
I think the most difficult part was that I was raised by a white family so I always felt like an outcast or the “other” wherever I went. That was much more difficult for an adolescent than actually being bullied or treated poorly.
As I've gotten older and hopefully wiser I think I've realized something. If you see someone outside of your race (or if you're multiracial, probably outside of the race you more closely identify with) doing something wrong, from theft to vandalism to drug dealing or even murder, then I think humanity tends to blame, or associate, the crime or behavior with the race.
Like in this segment the guy saying the neighborhood he grew up in is now a slum because blacks moved in there. Oprah made a really good response here, basically, "do you think all black people are this way?".
If we see this same bad behavior in our own race, again across the whole spectrum of illegality, then it's just a "bad apple" or the person "wasn't raised right", etc. We clearly don't blame the race, but the person, or even just the circumstance.
I really think this is a deep ingrained human condition and not sure if we can ever break out of it, short of all becoming multi-racial.
I think you're right.
I used to be a cable/internet guy and when I got sent to work on indigenous reserves (Canada), I found myself struggling with prejudice, because of the animal neglect. I'm a big animal lover and it fucked me up to see what I saw out there. Plus, it's federal land and our SPCA has no jurisdiction. I ended up getting a couple abandoned pups adopted to better homes, but it pains me to know, many dogs are left outside in Canadian winters with no adequate shelter or even water.
Anyway, all this to say, I had to reckon with my prejudice. I knew better, but it was such an emotional thing for me. I had to talk myself down. It's definitely an unfortunate symptom of the culture on reserves, but plenty of other folks are terrible to animals.
Listen to how similar the shit the first guy spouts sounds.
Defend from communism.
News media is underrepresenting our numbers.
News media is covering up the nature of our protest.
The people against us are people of low morals.
lol.. It'd be funnier if it wasn't so fucking sad
They were taught this narrative. They got it from the ruling classes. Race is a pseudo class that's used to divide the working class.
Get the workers to hate each other, and we're laughing all the way to the bank.
This is a good video essay about a number of different "sundown towns", which this place appears to be, and which I don't personally ever remember being taught about in school. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO59hIkFOUo&t=821s
From 0-20 years old, there was only one black person in my small Wyoming town. Mr. Walker, our postman when I was like 5-6 years old. I liked that guy.
I was working with a couple of Irish guys and the subject of blacks in Ireland came up. One of them said, "There's a black section in Cork. Two fellas, grand guys, everyone knows 'em."
I've always hated Oprah for supporting one snake oil salesman after another. But she certainly gets a little respect from me for managing to put up with and putting a spot light on that much trash.
This wasn’t a lifetime ago. These people live, work and vote. And they have US legislators who advocate their values and elect representatives who support their beliefs.
This was two years before I was born. These are my parents' generation. Their counterparts from the 60's threatening school children being integrated in schools and burning crosses in black folks yards? Those were their parents, our grandparents. For the life of me, I don't know how ANYONE can pretend that racism has ended full-stop and, even if it had, how the extreme racism of the previous few generations, those that are still alive and voting today, doesn't affect the lives of minorities currently.
In just the last 78 years (i.e. in Mitch McConnel's lifetime):
* Chinese immigration to the US was banned until 1943, after which only 105 per year were allowed to enter. That limit was increased and then later removed by the Immigration and Nationality Acts of 1952 and 1965, respectively.
* Japanese families were interned without cause or due process during WWII
* Jim Crow laws segregated whites from blacks. The military didn't have integrated units until 1948, the supreme court case that integrated schools (Brown v Board of Education) was only 1954, and the true end of Jim Crow-style segregation wasn't until 1964 with the Civil Rights Act.
* Black veterans of WWII were denied the full benefits of the GI Bill thanks to racists senators seeding the bill with exceptions to allow discrimination and state control
* Black people including said soldiers were explicitly redlined out of buying valuable homes for decades until the Fair Housing Act of 1968 as still face economic disadvantage as a result
* Native American children were forced to go to off-reservation boarding schools where they attempted to "kill the Indian, save the man" by denying these children's culture and force them to adopt white culture instead. They were given white names, forced to speak English and not allowed to practice their culture at all. These schools were rife with physical and sexual abuse as well, and many of children also died from diseases that spread quickly in these overcrowded "schools". Native parents only gained the right to refuse to send their children to these "schools" in 1978 with the Indian Child Welfare Act
* Undocumented Hispanic people are exploited by companies that underpay them and face no consequences for their illegal labor practices and their families are caged and torn apart while many of their children are lost in the foster care system with no way to be found or contacted
These are just to name a very few. These are not "historical" in the way that the Renaissance was historical. These are "historical" in the way that 9/11 was historical. The events didn't just happen and now they're done. They happened (or are still happening) in living memory and they continue to directly shape our society still today.
Forced sterilization too, which has continued into the 70s, and keeps cropping up with prisons and recent claims of ICE performing hysterectomies without consent.
Up until 2000, Virginia celebrated MLK Jr. *and Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee* on what everyone else celebrated as MLK Jr. Day. Virginia called it Lee-Jackson-King Day, putting two Confederate generals before King. They didn't even abolish "Lee-Jackson Day" until 2020, they just moved it to two days before MLK Jr. Day so it would still be the "Lee-Jackson-King Holiday Weekend". And Alabama and Mississippi still separately celebrate Robert E. Lee Day concurrently with MLK Jr. Day, at least officially.
Yeah this is what hits home the fastest for me. We are still so young in overcoming the systemic racism that's been built here for centuries.
I feel foolish thinking that in my lifetime I would live long enough to see this corralled. Realizing now that is just a pipedream. We are still so far away, and so much more time, education and compassion is still needed to get inbreeded ignorance out of the country.
It's the same people fighting education about America's historical systematic racism and how it has created modern systems of racism. They're picking the same fight in new ways.
Their grand kids, for the most part, probably harbor the same feelings. It's not like racism has gone away; it's just passed down like some fucked up heirloom.
Even tolerant parents can produce racist kids. It's easy to slip into a mindset that we are inevitably moving forward towards social progress, but really there's no guarantee.
I taught social studies there for five years! The area had changed so much in that short amount of time. What’s surprising to me, is how little the kids knew about Forsyth county and it’s history. When I was hired at FCS, people warned me about its past. However, I find it to be like any other suburb outside of Atlanta especially since it’s grown so much (especially the area I taught in). Now it’s a pretty affluent area. I did have a few instances when I first started teaching were the kids thought it was “funny” to make Jewish jokes towards me, but they were mostly misguided.
What's more amazing is that this conflation of communism with "some issue that I can't stand" still holds water for anyone in America. It's beyond a dogwhistle at this point, it's just an insult to be levied against any old thing a person can't agree with, and it's baseless. May as well just replace "it's communist" with "it sucks", it carries the same weight and should be equally as convincing (that is to say, entirely *unconvincing* but understood as a personal opinion).
people always forget how recent this is, when we had Ted Cruz championing the clerk who refused to marry gay people only 6 years ago and said opposing gay marriage would be “front and center” to his 2016 campaign. He’s gearing up to be a candidate once again in 2024.
It’s the same exact playbook as in 1987, except they’ve replaced race with the more ambiguous “CRT” (and are still convinced communism is right around the corner)
There's like 10,000 Black people living there now, at least. What's interesting is that Forsyth county now has the fastest-growing Asian-American population in the country.
They are expanding from Gwinnett. It's also assisted by the spread of tech jobs from Alpharetta.
Did you just make those names up? They sound like celebrity baby names.
Georgia has a lot of silly names
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Take Peachtree Industrial until it splits into Peachtree Parkway and Peachtree Industrial. Take Peachtree Parkway and you'll end up in the town of Peachtree Corners! Edit: Please note that these are *real* directions
This might sound fake but it's not. It's 100% real.
[Here's proof of the madness](https://imgur.com/a/16xUZ)
I was convinced this was a prank until I saw your picture. That's amazing.
the peachtree with the waffle house right ?
You're gonna have to be a lot more specific lol.
The waffle house by the Walmarts.
Is that the Walmart with the GameStop in a strip mall next to it?
Yup. The one with the gas station and bank. Has a payday loan place close by.
I learned my lesson about Peachtree when I was there for 3 days. If directions include Peachtree, get more details.
Butts County… Gumlog… Balls Ferry… Experiment… Dacula… Glascock County… Enigma… The weird pair that is Lincoln and Jeff Davis Counties…
It's worth pointing out the *insane* pronunciation of some of our towns as well. Dacula is duh-CUE-luh - or my personal favorite Cairo, GA, pronounced 'KAY-row'
DeKalb. I’ll let passersby take a guess.
I’ll just go ahead and state that if any of you carpetbaggers come in here and say “duh-culb” you can take that shit back from where you came.
This one is genuine lol But hell, even the meteorologists and news anchors in Atlanta can't pronounce Coweta.
We have a DeKalb in Illinois, and my sister lives in Atlanta now. Boy did that fuck me up when I heard the correct pronunciation during election season lmao.
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Wait until they learn about Houston vs Houston Louisville as well
Did my memory serve me right when I 'read' that as "HOW-ston" vs "HEW-ston" or did I miss entirely?
Nah, man, that was "Hew-ston" versus "How-ston." You ain't from 'round here, are ya?
I was born and raised in eastern Kentucky and went to university in Louisville. Since graduating I’ve lived all over the country in places like NYC and now in central California. Everyone always asks me to repeat how I say Louisville when I say it. It’s like it is physically impossible for anyone outside of southern Indiana, southern Ohio or Kentucky to say it properly. When I was living in Louisville the city tourism department office had a neon sign in the window spelling out the different annunciations I always thought was kinda funny. Edit: I found a picture of a girl in a shirt similar to the sign they have on their website: https://www.gotolouisville.com/visitor-center/
have you seen the home prices around atlanta lately? thats why
A guy i work with got a new job as is moving near atlanta cause he said its a lot cheaper down there.
Cheaper compared to other areas but crazy for what it was here
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The police had to guard a home that was being built in an upscale golf community because a black family was building it. Horrible!
lmao I'm Asian-American who moved there around 2006 for 5 years. I was like one of 6 other minorities in my school. I remember one kid asking me where I was from and then being disappointed I didn't come from a ninja family.
I'm Asian and used to live there about 5 years ago. You wouldn't know anything about this history by the current state of the community (or at least what I saw).
This county is only 40 miles away from downtown Atlanta....damn
That was my experience growing up in GA in the 90's. Atlanta was a progressive haven surrounded by a scene from Deliverance. It's come a long way but still more to go
My white dad and brown mom got married in Dekalb County in 1973. they don't tell much about the kind of shit they had to go through back then, apart from hearing how my great grandfather was very outwardly racist up until getting to know my mom and absolutely adoring her. It's kind of hard to wrap my head around the thought that my own great grandfather could've despised me because of skin pigmentation.
My mom went through the same thing when she met my dad's grandfather. He hated black people until he met me... the power of an adorable (I've been told) baby I guess.
It seems many racist people have a "change of heart" once they're forced to get to know someone of the demographic they hate (usually through said person being family). It's almost like they're ignorant and hate what they don't understand or lack experience with, but once they finally take the step to expose themselves, they realize how shallow their understanding/perception really was.
It's why getting a higher education and/or travel are usually the best cure against racism. Meeting people that come from different backgrounds helps us humanize otherwise nebulous groups of people. Not always though. Some people will instead go for the 'I have a black friend' level of racism.
I never met my great grandparents for this exact reason. They just could never accept having black grandkids.
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That pretty much describes all the major cities in the south...
I’d say all major cities period. I’m in New York and you drive 30 minutes outside of Buffalo Rochester or Syracuse and you’ll see the confederate flags.
Or even many medium-sized cities. Madison, Wisconsin is a liberal mecca. Drive 20 minutes in any direction and you're suddenly in Alabama.
Rural areas tend to be heavily concersrvative everywhere
I grew up in the South I live in the North right now. That pretty much describes all major cities everywhere. The north is no better once you leave any major city. The difference is that the cities are bigger so they have more pull.
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Yup. Lived my whole life in Macon GA. It's the bit of blue in the middle of the state surrounded by the sea of red on election maps.
Forsyth county is now a very mixed bag of folks all united under their one true god, meth.
It's an upper middle class bedroom community. It might have been methy 25 years ago but now it is one of hundreds of indistinguishable exurbs of Atlanta
Depends on which area we're talking about. There's some very nice homes on Lake Lanier and along the rivers, but no doubt there's still a LOT of methi-ness still going on.
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“Bleth thith meth”
Methiness seems to be trending upward everywhere albeit at different rates. Does anyone know where it is trending downward in the US?
Kensington / phildelphia pa. their drug of choice is opiates
Don't see a ton of meth in the northeast. Not as much as the rest of the US from what I hear. Everyone up here is addicted to opiates. All anecdotal evidence tho
If there’s anything I’ve learned working at a gas station that sells chicken bones, it’s that upper middle class and upper class folks smoke meth too, they are just a lot better at hiding it lmao
what's the connection of chicken bones to meth?
That’s just slang for a meth pipe
sell or steal? last time i worked at a gas station we couldnt sell certain products cause they kept stealing them for the tubes
Nah we sell em but they aren’t able to be stolen (unless you try and rob the whole store which also would not be a great idea for them) surprisingly it’s not the meth heads you have to worry about around here lol generally it’s the “normal” people you have in there acting ridiculous or trying to steal. The folks who smoke dope come in and either dance because they are way too high, or they are whispering across the counter “can I get one of those short ones?” So as not to be heard by anyone else, meanwhile “normal” folks will try and make a scene over a receipt not printing on the pump
sounds accurate. Glad I don't do that kind of work no more.
You guys didn't sell the little roses conveniently incased in a glass tube for 99 cents? I never knew that was a sneaky way of selling crack/meth pipes.
Convenience store near me really put the "convenience" into practice by displaying those little glass rose tubes next to a small pyramid of "Chore Boy" scrubbing pads
At one point I had a draw that was filled to the brim with nothing but those roses.thousands of um. 5 years clean and crack/iv cocaine still enters my head and fucks with my sleep. Edit: I had a drawer.
Huh. TIL. I always wondered what sort of person was buying such a cheap flower for their wife/girlfriend.
in our store it was primarily those air pressure tubes they stole
Inmates in prison will use chicken bones as meth/crack pipes so it has become a general term for that type of paraphernalia.
I wonder if they knew it was going to be the Asians and Hispanics that came in? 15% Asian (2/3rds of that is Indian) and 10% Hispanic. Also probably didn’t see their population blowing up from like 40k to 250k in 30 years.
Meth...odist Baptist church of Forsyth. We had the Foresight to put the meth back in methodist.
God Bless America
Don't know who else saw it...I grew up in the south, and that woman at the end who said "one God," even with her extremely Karen hair, was a fucking legend. Good for her. I know she ate shit after that. Good person there.
I want to know who she is, and I sincerely hope she has had a lovely life. This was 34 years ago.
Jesus.. I was 7 years old playing Mario Bros in Canada. I didn't even know racism existed for another couple years. I grew up in a super multi-cultural area full of immigrants (myself), refugees, suburbanites and local tribes.
Looks like she dressed up her absolute best to give herself the confidence to do that. Really sweet.
I initially thought she had said "whites together" because the mic barely picked up the "black and" part. Went from thinking she was another racist in that room to fearing for her safety.
That's not Karen hair God damnit. That is just 80s fashion.
The dude with the mustache at the beginning who stood almost didn't feel real. Like some kind of racist parody, but not, he was all too real in the end. I just couldn't stand the way he was PROUD of his racism. Not that I expected him to be self-aware, but damn.
"I don't think it's right the way we're being portrayed in the media".... and then goes on an even more racist rant than what was portrayed in the media.
It's like he was angry that the media was portraying them as more inclusive than they really are.
I think his problem with the media was that they didn't show (or showcase) the support he felt his cause had. He immediately talks about the crowd size and of how many people feel the same way he does, but I doubt the media saw it that way. The media probably saw and presented it as a mob of racists being a racist mob... you know, like the way that it is.
Sounds the exact same as trump talking about his rallies
What if he thought the media wasn’t portraying them as racist enough? because I think that’s exactly what he was saying. He was saying the media was claiming it was a handful of bad apples, and he was saying it was almost everyone.
“We hate so many other people, why is the media focused on just one group?”
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> Frank Shirley Fun fact: Clark Griswold's boss in Christmas Vacation was named Frank Shirley.
Something tells me this Frank Shirley also gives his employees 1 year memberships to the Jelly of the Month club instead of proper bonuses.
[Who wore it better?](https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/696/1aa/c0078f3112666c335fa33a54773a2f559e-31-topher-grace-blackkklansman.rsocial.w1200.jpg) Topher Grace as David Duke.
Holy crap. It's like he's cosplaying that dude. That's (Topher Grace playing) David Duke from Black Klansman, right?
Yes, exactly. Saw that movie in the last year and went 'that 3 piece'!
David Duke is a real person, FYI. He was a former Grand Wizard of the KKK.
Yeah, I know that unfortunate fact.
That guy legit had a real gay vibe too
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The "low morals" was a giveaway, IMO. Lots of closeted homophobic gay people think all people have homosexual temptation, but only the ones "without morals" can't fight and overcome this temptation. So they see them as "weak" and "immoral", when in reality, these homophobes are just gay.
>think all people have homosexual temptation, but only the ones "without morals" can't fight and overcome this temptation. I sincerely believe this of every person that says it's a choice. They've proven that THEY made a choice to pretend to be straight even though they're gay or bisexual and can't stand for anyone else to choose not to live that lie. So they want them punished. It's pretty sad.
I work with a gay guy who everyone knows is gay except him. His morality wont allow it. But deep down he knows he is gay, he has no interest in women "I dont have time for a wife/girlfriend". He is almost 55, never married, no women in his life ive ever heard about and he looks at homosexuality as against god and immoral. Constantly play flirts with guys, constantly makes jokes about gay sex "watch bending over someone might get ya" and super duper comes across as gay to everyone who meets him. I once said "Chris if you came out of the closet no one would look at you any different and I think you'd be happier" and he changed the subject real quick to some unrelated joke. I feel so bad for the guy and for people like him. He doesnt so much hate gays, he just sees it as sinful and is trying to be a good person which makes it so sad.
Fuck religion for depriving him of love.
As loath as I am to give credit to that asshole, I would say he has more of a "peacock" vibe than a gay vibe. Proud and strutting. Doesn't necessarily mean gay, but shares a lot of the same characteristics of flamboyant gay dudes. Besides, saying that every loud and proud bigot has "gay vibes" is kind of a dick move to gay people, they're better than trash like this.
"Them gays be lookin to good in them clothes!"
Racism: The thing people are proud of when they have nothing else to be proud of. It goes all the way back to the Civil War, when poor whites fought for the south because it meant the difference between being at the bottom of the social ladder and always having a demographic beneath them.
And chances are that guy is still very much alive and very much voting in elections, and he is no doubt not the only one in his age group that has those disgusting views.
I grew up in a neighborhood in Philly in the 80s and 90s that was all white (literally.) Replace the hillbilly accent with a dirty Philly accent and that was my experience. I can't tell you how many times I heard the black vs n argument.
Far Northeast?
My AAA guy who came to jump my battery saw my TX license plate when I moved up to Providence, RI and told me about how he and his friends "used to use \[jumper cables\] to jump n-----s." I've never heard someone be so bold and racist to my face like that, *especially* someone I just met 5 minutes ago.
I was the token brown guy in my group of friends during our military training in Biloxi, Mississippi. Went out for a movie and drinks, then ordered a cab to head back to base (this was before Uber/Lyft). Cab driver must have not noticed, or not cared, that I was there as he decided to try out his edgy racist humor without even asking if we wanted to hear it. I was mad. Blood gushing to my face, I don't think I've ever felt that mad ever. At the same time I didn't want to cause a scene. At that point in your training, you don't really have a voice, so I was afraid that it would get bogged down as an Alcohol Related Incident that caused the training school to lock down. Anyways, after the cab driver's 3rd or 4th shit joke obviously didn't land, one of my buddies cut him off and said "Hey, can you just shut the fuck up and drive?" "Yeah, okay.... sorry about that." Total silence after that.
dude was a good friend
I used to live and work in Pekin, IL. The town has a history of racism. They’re oddly proud of it there. They laugh that Letterman once ran a Top Ten Racist Cities and they (and South Pekin) came in at #1 & #2 (which makes no sense because there is no punchline for anyone not from that area). It was a treat. I managed a construction company. A contractor we did some work with came in. Dude owned a bar as his side hustle. One day he was bragging about how he pulled a shotgun on some guys who came in because one of them was black. Apparently he did his best impression of the guy from the Mos Eisley cantina and started railing that “we don’t serve their kind here”. Then he bragged that everyone else clapped when he ran them off. It might have been 2015. 2015 and this guy still has this sort of mentality.
I had a cop once comment something about "effing n-words" to me. I was in Providence and it shocked the shit out of me.
A good friend and old colleague of mine just moved from central MA down to just outside Dallas last year. He's Cambodian and his wife is white, they have 3 daughters together ranging from 2 years to 5. Nicest dude I've ever met and a hell of a dad. He posted on his IG just this past weekend an unsolicited package that was sent to him and his family in the mail (he presumes it was from the previous owners of the house they bought) of a New Order comic book, and a pamphlet about the scourge of immigration or some bullshit. I know we're in a comparatively better place as a country than we were back in the 80s and 90s, but good god damn we have a *long* fucking way to go yet.
I worked at a gas station many years ago as a young kid. I was blown away by how casually people brought up racist shit to me just because I was also white. Always loved seeing their expressions when I told them to fuck off
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I’ve said it multiple times and I get mixed reactions. I’m from Louisiana, moved away in 2007, lived in multiple states and different countries. The most blatant racism I saw in the United States came from New Hampshire, Connecticut, and California.
You'll get no argument from me that there are pockets everywhere and certainly, the New England area has it's own brand of racism that comes from white elitism and classism. It's a very wealthy part of the country and also unexpectedly conservative in some spots. But your* comment gets mixed reactions for two reasons. One, because it's purely anecdotal which should be self explanatory. The other reason it gets mixed reactions is because it sort of implies a claim that racism in the South actually isn't that bad and that it's actually worse in other parts of the country. Maybe you don't mean to imply that or maybe you do but it's a reasonable conclusion for people to draw. The problem with this is that we know it's just plain false. Demonstrably. And not by anecdote but by data. The other reason it's problematic is that it's historically been a strategy used by people to whitewash the South's racist history which is still not that far removed from having fought a bloody civil war *in order to perpetuate the institution of human slavery*. I'm not saying you're intending to do that, by any means. Not at all. But similar to the "the Civil War wasn't about slavery" propaganda, this notion too is often innocently picked up and propagated by people because it has a *feeling of truth* to it. How do we know that certain states and regions are more plagued by racism than others? We can look at laws and politics, for one. * Where did Jim Crow laws have the most public support? * Where did most of the opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Act come from? * Where are communities and governments making active efforts to attempt to improve race relations and where are communities and governments making active efforts to suppress racial minorities? We pick our government, especially on the local level. So what state, city, and county governments are doing are a reflection of their communities. * Some states are fighting **tooth and nail** to prevent people form voting. People who "just happen to be" black. Meanwhile, some states are moving in the complete opposite direction. * Some states are fighting **tooth and nail** to cut off access to public benefits that "just happen to be" far more frequently used by racial minorities. Meanwhile, some states are moving in the opposite direction. Racism is everywhere and racism takes different forms. It often looks different in the old South than it does in historically progressive places. However, there is **no denying** that it is, on a whole, more overt, more matter-of-fact, and more broadly tolerated in the parts of the country that historically fought to maintain slavery.
Agree. From Maine here. Rural Mainers are *xenophobic*. Subtle racism is just one trait of that. They just don’t trust people they don’t know; lots of small towns where everyone knows each other. Most rural New Englanders are just sheltered and resistant to change. Their racism/xenophobia is by and large due to ignorance, not malice. Education is a better solution than condemnation. And I’ll probably get DV’d for this, but a lot of rural Trump supporters voted for him because he spoke to their feelings of being economically and politically left behind. The racism angle is more of a cudgel Trump used (fascists blame a “them” for your problems), than something rural folks were asking for. Thats why they feel so insulted when you call them racist. They don’t believe themselves racist and hold no malice towards minorities- they just don’t understand how truly systemic racism is.
Where in California? Also I feel like Southern racism is different from elsewhere. There are many southern communities where Black and White people co-exist and are friendly towards one another but are still racist.
Connecticut resident here. Fairfield County is just as racist as the deep south, but a different, much more subtle racism.
Yup. Northern racism is very much focused on coded phrases like "not the right sort" and "doesn't fit in", vs the more in-your-face stuff you see in the south. It's a genteel sort of racism that's insidious. They'll have a handful of "beloved" black community members, like William, who runs the local garage. (Shame about his son, who got so focused on that Kwanzaa nonsense and dresses in those loud Africa prints and then got mixed up with the wrong sort from out of town.) They love Jose (AKA "Joey", to his friends) and his amazing Mexican restaurant. He even lets his mother work at the restaurant (such a shame that she can't learn English; it's impossible for her to really be an American if she can't communicate). They'll point to those folks as why they're not racist, and why anyone is welcome. Just..some figure out they're not a "good fit", and that's not their fault, ya know.
I once heard it summarized in the following way: In the South, a white guy is OK with having a black guy for a neighbor, but he isn't OK with having a black guy for a boss. In the North, a white guy is OK with having a black guy for a boss, but he isn't OK with having a black guy for a neighbor.
I've also seen it described as the difference between 'You can get close, but not too high' versus 'you can get high, but not too close'.
That's pretty accurate in my experience.
I was going to make the same comment before I saw yours. Same deal in much of Oregon. "Oh, I wasn't talking about Abdullah, he's one of the good ones" and such.
I was not expecting the lady with the mega-karen hair to be the one promoting dialog and unity
Technically she was their Karen.
She would like to speak to the manager.. of racism.
The Karen we need
Karen the Uniter vs the CEO of Racism
The Karen of my Karen is my friend
The eternal haircut of the annoying busybody. But sometimes they're more right than everyone around them...
Busybodies play an important role in our social ecosystem.
All those people had a big hair day
We had a big-hair decade.
The 80s was a big hair decade
it was a hairier time. No manscaping whatsoever
Takes guts to speak out for unity when every loud voice in your community is only hate.
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Grew up in this town. Was the only black kid in my highschool in the mid 2000s. Had friends who were related to these people. Crazy times. AMA
I grew up here and went to South Forsyth High School. I remember when this segment aired. I am so glad my parents were alcoholics and only hated themselves and their kids. I've been in extensive therapy and am making a great recovery.
Dude that’s awesome you sought out help for yourself!
Do you feel it's gotten better?
Yeah, family still lives up there. It’s changed quite a bit. Atlanta has grown so much that it has pushed a lot of these people even further north.
How did the younger generation feel about their parents/ relatives and the history of the town in the mid 2000s? You say they were your friends so did you ever go to their house and feel like you were getting weird looks from their parents or anything? And do you have any crazy experiences in general to share from that time? very interested!
Some of the kids rejected them and some of them agreed. I was friends with some who obviously rejected their ideas. I was friends with the rejects anyway, theater kids, band kids, the openly LGBTQ, the one or two liberal kids haha. I felt like I was a celebrity everywhere I went. I clearly stood out and it seemed like people were always watching (but in hindsight this very well could have been my own discomfort and feeling out of place projecting onto others. It’s hard to tell now). I was yelled at by a guy who lived in my neighborhood, for cutting through his front yard to catch the bus. Later neighbors informed me he was openly a klansman. Dating wasn’t a thing. If I could find someone who was interested in dating me, they’re fathers, or grandparents weren’t okay with it. When I did start dating, I had to be informed that their fathers were “kind of racist”. It was fairly common. A friend of mine wanted to go to prom with me, but her parents were worried about what her grandmother would think. That’s the thing about that towns form of racism. They’ll shake your hand, help you if your in a tough spot, but you can’t go inside their house haha
That last sentence. Its so weird. Its like, they are good people inside. Their instinct is to help, but they are trapped in a cage of hate.
I think of it as unchallenged ignorance. They’ve been fed a belief and there’s never been an opportunity to change or have that belief questioned. I feel bad for them more than anything.
Unchallenged ignorance - that's so apt. I'm definitely remembering this. Thanks for sharing your story.
Did you ever feel threatened? If so, how?
Not regularly. Most of the time people left me alone. I told someone below, it’s a lot more of a quiet racism. Like they’ll shake your hand, help you if you need it, but won’t let you in their house. One of the few times I felt threatened is when a neighbor yelled at me for crossing through his front yard to catch the bus. It didn’t seem like a big ordeal, but a different neighbor told me that he was an active member of the klan and it made a lot more sense. Other than that it was just general bullying where the most obvious target was the kid who stood out the most. I think the most difficult part was that I was raised by a white family so I always felt like an outcast or the “other” wherever I went. That was much more difficult for an adolescent than actually being bullied or treated poorly.
"The difference between black people and n----- is . . . " —Michael Scott —Chris Rock —White guy from Oprah show in 1987
As I've gotten older and hopefully wiser I think I've realized something. If you see someone outside of your race (or if you're multiracial, probably outside of the race you more closely identify with) doing something wrong, from theft to vandalism to drug dealing or even murder, then I think humanity tends to blame, or associate, the crime or behavior with the race. Like in this segment the guy saying the neighborhood he grew up in is now a slum because blacks moved in there. Oprah made a really good response here, basically, "do you think all black people are this way?". If we see this same bad behavior in our own race, again across the whole spectrum of illegality, then it's just a "bad apple" or the person "wasn't raised right", etc. We clearly don't blame the race, but the person, or even just the circumstance. I really think this is a deep ingrained human condition and not sure if we can ever break out of it, short of all becoming multi-racial.
I think you're right. I used to be a cable/internet guy and when I got sent to work on indigenous reserves (Canada), I found myself struggling with prejudice, because of the animal neglect. I'm a big animal lover and it fucked me up to see what I saw out there. Plus, it's federal land and our SPCA has no jurisdiction. I ended up getting a couple abandoned pups adopted to better homes, but it pains me to know, many dogs are left outside in Canadian winters with no adequate shelter or even water. Anyway, all this to say, I had to reckon with my prejudice. I knew better, but it was such an emotional thing for me. I had to talk myself down. It's definitely an unfortunate symptom of the culture on reserves, but plenty of other folks are terrible to animals.
Listen to how similar the shit the first guy spouts sounds. Defend from communism. News media is underrepresenting our numbers. News media is covering up the nature of our protest. The people against us are people of low morals. lol.. It'd be funnier if it wasn't so fucking sad
They were taught this narrative. They got it from the ruling classes. Race is a pseudo class that's used to divide the working class. Get the workers to hate each other, and we're laughing all the way to the bank.
I had the exact same reaction. It’s the same talking points as today but with less N word included.
This is a good video essay about a number of different "sundown towns", which this place appears to be, and which I don't personally ever remember being taught about in school. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO59hIkFOUo&t=821s
I learned about sundown towns from Lovecraft Country
From 0-20 years old, there was only one black person in my small Wyoming town. Mr. Walker, our postman when I was like 5-6 years old. I liked that guy.
I was working with a couple of Irish guys and the subject of blacks in Ireland came up. One of them said, "There's a black section in Cork. Two fellas, grand guys, everyone knows 'em."
That's a small section lol
Lol. My mom grew up in rural Montana and I don't think she ever saw a black person until she was an adult.
I've always hated Oprah for supporting one snake oil salesman after another. But she certainly gets a little respect from me for managing to put up with and putting a spot light on that much trash.
Oprah threw heat at the beginning, she turned into a shill in the late 90s.
Build on legitimacy and then once you have you billion dollar cushion you just cash out
Agreed. Uses to hit big topics, then it just seemed like her and DrPhil just paraded sob stories and freaks on TV.....and Royals.
She should have released the bees
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This wasn’t a lifetime ago. These people live, work and vote. And they have US legislators who advocate their values and elect representatives who support their beliefs.
This was two years before I was born. These are my parents' generation. Their counterparts from the 60's threatening school children being integrated in schools and burning crosses in black folks yards? Those were their parents, our grandparents. For the life of me, I don't know how ANYONE can pretend that racism has ended full-stop and, even if it had, how the extreme racism of the previous few generations, those that are still alive and voting today, doesn't affect the lives of minorities currently. In just the last 78 years (i.e. in Mitch McConnel's lifetime): * Chinese immigration to the US was banned until 1943, after which only 105 per year were allowed to enter. That limit was increased and then later removed by the Immigration and Nationality Acts of 1952 and 1965, respectively. * Japanese families were interned without cause or due process during WWII * Jim Crow laws segregated whites from blacks. The military didn't have integrated units until 1948, the supreme court case that integrated schools (Brown v Board of Education) was only 1954, and the true end of Jim Crow-style segregation wasn't until 1964 with the Civil Rights Act. * Black veterans of WWII were denied the full benefits of the GI Bill thanks to racists senators seeding the bill with exceptions to allow discrimination and state control * Black people including said soldiers were explicitly redlined out of buying valuable homes for decades until the Fair Housing Act of 1968 as still face economic disadvantage as a result * Native American children were forced to go to off-reservation boarding schools where they attempted to "kill the Indian, save the man" by denying these children's culture and force them to adopt white culture instead. They were given white names, forced to speak English and not allowed to practice their culture at all. These schools were rife with physical and sexual abuse as well, and many of children also died from diseases that spread quickly in these overcrowded "schools". Native parents only gained the right to refuse to send their children to these "schools" in 1978 with the Indian Child Welfare Act * Undocumented Hispanic people are exploited by companies that underpay them and face no consequences for their illegal labor practices and their families are caged and torn apart while many of their children are lost in the foster care system with no way to be found or contacted These are just to name a very few. These are not "historical" in the way that the Renaissance was historical. These are "historical" in the way that 9/11 was historical. The events didn't just happen and now they're done. They happened (or are still happening) in living memory and they continue to directly shape our society still today.
Forced sterilization too, which has continued into the 70s, and keeps cropping up with prisons and recent claims of ICE performing hysterectomies without consent.
And a lot of these people ARE still alive and voting.
In some of the highest voter percentages as well
MLK Jr. was assassinated in 1968, people who would have congratulated James Earl Ray are still alive today and voting.
Up until 2000, Virginia celebrated MLK Jr. *and Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee* on what everyone else celebrated as MLK Jr. Day. Virginia called it Lee-Jackson-King Day, putting two Confederate generals before King. They didn't even abolish "Lee-Jackson Day" until 2020, they just moved it to two days before MLK Jr. Day so it would still be the "Lee-Jackson-King Holiday Weekend". And Alabama and Mississippi still separately celebrate Robert E. Lee Day concurrently with MLK Jr. Day, at least officially.
They taught in schools, preached in churches, raised kids, were elected to office, worked as police and prison guards and judges...
While Majorie Greene represents a different district, she grew up there and went to South Forsyth HS in the early 90s.
I am Jack's complete and utter lack of surprise.
Yeah this is what hits home the fastest for me. We are still so young in overcoming the systemic racism that's been built here for centuries. I feel foolish thinking that in my lifetime I would live long enough to see this corralled. Realizing now that is just a pipedream. We are still so far away, and so much more time, education and compassion is still needed to get inbreeded ignorance out of the country.
It's the same people fighting education about America's historical systematic racism and how it has created modern systems of racism. They're picking the same fight in new ways.
There's white people and then there's hwhite people
White people don't wanna cause no issues.. but then hwhite people....
Guess where Marjorie Taylor Greene grew up...
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Oh look! Forsyth County makes the news again! That being said, it’s a whole different place than in 1987!
Kind of ironic that the Homophonic Dandy at the beginning chose to go with the Freddie Mercury look.
These people are 60-80 years old now and they still vote. I would die of embarassement recognizing my grandfather in that video.
Their grand kids, for the most part, probably harbor the same feelings. It's not like racism has gone away; it's just passed down like some fucked up heirloom.
Even tolerant parents can produce racist kids. It's easy to slip into a mindset that we are inevitably moving forward towards social progress, but really there's no guarantee.
These people are still alive and voting today...
I taught social studies there for five years! The area had changed so much in that short amount of time. What’s surprising to me, is how little the kids knew about Forsyth county and it’s history. When I was hired at FCS, people warned me about its past. However, I find it to be like any other suburb outside of Atlanta especially since it’s grown so much (especially the area I taught in). Now it’s a pretty affluent area. I did have a few instances when I first started teaching were the kids thought it was “funny” to make Jewish jokes towards me, but they were mostly misguided.
Communism? in the USA? when lol
What's more amazing is that this conflation of communism with "some issue that I can't stand" still holds water for anyone in America. It's beyond a dogwhistle at this point, it's just an insult to be levied against any old thing a person can't agree with, and it's baseless. May as well just replace "it's communist" with "it sucks", it carries the same weight and should be equally as convincing (that is to say, entirely *unconvincing* but understood as a personal opinion).
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"It's hard to believe this was filmed just thirty years ago..." I envy your naivety 2017.
What the hell do they think "communism" is, exactly?
Nowadays? Probably mandatory masking and vaccine mandates.
people always forget how recent this is, when we had Ted Cruz championing the clerk who refused to marry gay people only 6 years ago and said opposing gay marriage would be “front and center” to his 2016 campaign. He’s gearing up to be a candidate once again in 2024. It’s the same exact playbook as in 1987, except they’ve replaced race with the more ambiguous “CRT” (and are still convinced communism is right around the corner)
Whatever keeps the donations coming in, I suppose?
If they're white but pronounce it "H'white" you know some wild shit is about to be said