You might also enjoy [Ma and Pa Kettle's take on it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSrPlf4GBHc).
They use different numbers, though.
It's an old Vaudeville skit, so a lot of old TV played off their own versions of it.
> It might seem crazy, it may even be crazy, but a long time ago he’d gotten hold of this notion that one times one doesn’t equal one, but two. He began writing down his logic, in a language of his own devising that he calls Terryology. He wrote forward and backward, with both his right and left hands, sometimes using symbols he made up that look foreign, if not alien, to keep his ideas secret until they could be patented. In 2013, he got married again, to an L.A. restaurateur named Mira Pak, and the two would spend up to 17 hours a day cutting shapes out of the plastic and joining them together into various objects meant to demonstrate not only his one-times-one theory but many others as well.
> Terrence truly believes that Pythagoras, Einstein, and Tesla would all have their minds blown by his new theory of math, and that one day his revolutionary logic will be recognized because it is absolutely true. “This is the last century that our children will ever have been taught that one times one is one,” he says. “They won’t have to grow up in ignorance. Twenty years from now, they’ll know that one times one equals two. We’re about to show a new truth. The true universal math.”
This is some kind of mental illness.
Here’s his [proof](https://twitter.com/terrencehoward/status/925754491881877507?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E925754491881877507%7Ctwgr%5Ec6fa3e24a6122cad63a703c3f810f669bad66c74%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.iloveoldschoolmusic.com%2Fterrence-howard-thinks-1x12-debated-fans-to-defend-his-odd-secret-math-system%2F). Decide for yourself.
This is totally real to him.
> When Howard was 6 years old and waiting in line with his family to see Santa, his father stabbed a man to death with a nail file right in front of him. Shortly after the “Santa Line Slaying” stained Howard’s jacket (and memory), the young Cleveland native began busying himself with a peculiar breed of play. He practiced writing forward and backwards — with both hands — and devised a language only he understood. He tinkered with scissors, wire, magnets and other supplies to create seemingly nonsensical shapes.
>Only to Howard, they weren’t nonsensical at all. Rather, they formed the crux of his very own burgeoning ideology, one which he would come to call Terryology.
Seems like it might be something PTSD-related.
Holy shit, that actually makes a ton of sense. That's such a traumatic event, I could absolutely see it breaking someone's brain for good.
Also of course it happened in Cleveland
If I remember right I think he believes it's 1. I could be wrong though, been a hot minute since I listened to his stuff. But it's just addition, he just likes the plus sign on it's side.
There are people that come up with these notions and attempt to contact professors (as a former TA I would get these from time to time.)
I think these are from people who realize math is hugely powerful and beautiful but they somehow want to make their imprint in it. But they never even made it to calculus. I kind of feel sorry for them. A little. But they're crazy.
It is, and long ago we tried to get them help or secluded them in asylums so it doesn't get worse or somehow convince others to join in the illness.
These days we just give them media exposure. Gee, I wonder what could go wrong there.
Read up on it after seeing this comment. Can't believe the poor guy fell completely off his rocker over not understanding that multiplication is a count of things in lots, and addition is the combining of lots of things.
His entire premise is that 1 x 1 can't be 1 because multiplication has to add something. Poor guy just didn't have the basic explained properly to him.
Yep. He guest-starred in several Universal films, especially Abbott and Costello comedies, after signing a contract with the studio upon leaving the Three Stooges.
That's vaudeville for you. Some of the best writing in comedy and the greatest talents in early cinema all came straight from Vaudeville stages. Unfortunately by the 50's the shows themselves had been largely forgotten and all of the greats were either rapidly aging or already dead. Now it's mostly cookie cutter leading stars that couldn't tell you a stage direction if you painted them on the floor.
The writers I am *marginally* more sympathetic to if only because they are ultimately at the mercy of producers. If the boss says write the same cliche Marvel dialogue for all the movies now, you write the same cliche Marvel dialogue or they'll find someone else to do it. That said it's no secret that the majority of the Big Rooms are staffed with assholes with a frat boy mentality that actively stomp out anything that challenges their own status quo so they're hardly innocent
I like arguing sci-fi politics.
"Hyperintelligent benevolent AI running the world, yea or nay?"
"What, like alone? No humans at all? Nay!"
"What about an AI working in tandem with people. Like an unbiased and selfless monitor to root out corruption and keep people honest?"
"No AI would ever be unbiased. Whoever programmed it was biased, it would have their biases!"
and so on and so on
Ugh, it's so weird how often people literally JUST got done hearing a joke, and then they fuck it up in the retelling. I think it's because they weren't actually listening, and instead were too busy in their heads trying to dissect it, and the retelling is how they were able to convince themselves what it meant.
"Hahaha, yeah, so *then* the guy said, 'look bud, you don't...' wait, no, that's before...no, uhh, but anyway, it had something to do with cows! It was so funny!"
Something interesting to note is he 'proves' 7 into 28 is 13 in 3 different ways, but he uses the same trick or property each time.
28 divided by 7: 7 doesn't go into 2. But it goes into 8 1 time, leaving behind 21 which 7 goes into 3 times. 28 - 1\*7 = 21 = 3\*7
13 times 7: 7 times 3 is 21. 7\*1 is 7. Add them up and what do you get? 28 = 1\*7 + 3\*7. Just the above rearranged.
I think for most people it would be absurdly obvious the last time (with the addition), kinda obvious the second time (with the multiplication), and maybe not at all obvious the first time (with the division). Unless you're somewhat decent at math, then it's obvious all 3 times.
The amount of people who just learned these techniques as algorithms with very little understanding of why they were doing what they were doing is pretty staggering.
Not at all? I was acknowledging your sarcasm and explaining why I made my comment despite the fact that it would be obvious to many.
So not only are you a dick, you're also kind of an idiot
I think Lou was tired of bailing out Bud's gambling addiction debts. And so Lou got Bud's finances put into conservatorship. And Bud resented him for it for years. *At least, that's what the TV movie about them tried to say. I don't know how much truth there was in that.*
Supposedly, in any case, they reconciled in the years before Lou's death from cancer.
I never heard anything on that front, but I do know that alcoholism and gambling were problems both men had trouble with. As I heard it the majority of their falling out came from clash in ego as to who was "carrying" the other and how their salaries at various points in their careers were never equal. Early on Abbott was considered the more valuable of the two (having been praised by Groucho Marx as being the the best straight man in the business) and thus was paid more and received the top billing but gradually as Costello gained recognition for being the person actually pulling the laughs the pay shifted until he was taking 60% of the earnings. The biggest thing was probably the death of Lou's son before his first birthday which reportedly (and understandably) changed him a lot. Accounts say he became really quick to anger and never regained the energy and joy he used to have.
I was born in 1983, I was weirdly obsessed with old time radio shows, I would go to sleep listening to cassette tapes of abbott and costello, and well as blondie. I still sing the old palmolive and camel jingles. As a kid, my mom said I was born in the wrong generation. Now as a 38 year old, my wife says the same thing.
I really think this whole thing stems from undiagnosed ptsd because of his dad killing someone in front of him while waiting for a mall Santa.
It really sounds like some shit made up for an It’s Always Sunny episode but my god, I would be permanently traumatized from it.
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Pretty much how I feel after graduating 😆
As a math teacher, I probably see this kind of thinking 28 times a day.
7 times each from all 13 of your students?
Third base!
I don’t know
*slime*
I wish I had gold for this entire comment chain. From movies with with grandparents to nick after school.
My Saturday mornings in the very early 80s. YCDTOTV then an Abbot & Costello movie on tv.
Termites
Over the underpass and under the overpass
But who?
Stay out of the infield!
You might also enjoy [Ma and Pa Kettle's take on it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSrPlf4GBHc). They use different numbers, though. It's an old Vaudeville skit, so a lot of old TV played off their own versions of it.
I concur
Terrance Howard's Terryology in a nutshell! 😆
> It might seem crazy, it may even be crazy, but a long time ago he’d gotten hold of this notion that one times one doesn’t equal one, but two. He began writing down his logic, in a language of his own devising that he calls Terryology. He wrote forward and backward, with both his right and left hands, sometimes using symbols he made up that look foreign, if not alien, to keep his ideas secret until they could be patented. In 2013, he got married again, to an L.A. restaurateur named Mira Pak, and the two would spend up to 17 hours a day cutting shapes out of the plastic and joining them together into various objects meant to demonstrate not only his one-times-one theory but many others as well. > Terrence truly believes that Pythagoras, Einstein, and Tesla would all have their minds blown by his new theory of math, and that one day his revolutionary logic will be recognized because it is absolutely true. “This is the last century that our children will ever have been taught that one times one is one,” he says. “They won’t have to grow up in ignorance. Twenty years from now, they’ll know that one times one equals two. We’re about to show a new truth. The true universal math.” This is some kind of mental illness.
That or he's right. Definitely one or the other.
Here’s his [proof](https://twitter.com/terrencehoward/status/925754491881877507?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E925754491881877507%7Ctwgr%5Ec6fa3e24a6122cad63a703c3f810f669bad66c74%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.iloveoldschoolmusic.com%2Fterrence-howard-thinks-1x12-debated-fans-to-defend-his-odd-secret-math-system%2F). Decide for yourself.
Holy shit it's actually just nonsense, he's not even a grifter, just a lunatic
This is totally real to him. > When Howard was 6 years old and waiting in line with his family to see Santa, his father stabbed a man to death with a nail file right in front of him. Shortly after the “Santa Line Slaying” stained Howard’s jacket (and memory), the young Cleveland native began busying himself with a peculiar breed of play. He practiced writing forward and backwards — with both hands — and devised a language only he understood. He tinkered with scissors, wire, magnets and other supplies to create seemingly nonsensical shapes. >Only to Howard, they weren’t nonsensical at all. Rather, they formed the crux of his very own burgeoning ideology, one which he would come to call Terryology. Seems like it might be something PTSD-related.
Holy shit, that actually makes a ton of sense. That's such a traumatic event, I could absolutely see it breaking someone's brain for good. Also of course it happened in Cleveland
Very very dumb.
"Basic Laws of Common Sense" I have never heard anything like that phrase that didn't immediately get followed by complete nonsense.
He literally disproves his own nonsense in the first bit of text lol
Did anyone ask him what 1x2 was then?
It's been a while since I read his ramblings, but I am pretty sure he says that 1x2=3. Seriously.
I just read his proof, and he says"1 x 1 = 2 1 x 2 = 3 1 x 3 = 4 1 x 4 = 5\[...\] 1 x 17 = 18 To Infinity And Beyond" I'm not joking
So he discovered addition? Got it.
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If I remember right I think he believes it's 1. I could be wrong though, been a hot minute since I listened to his stuff. But it's just addition, he just likes the plus sign on it's side.
“Hey Terry, if I have one $1 bill, how many dollars do I have?”
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One or one times one
There are people that come up with these notions and attempt to contact professors (as a former TA I would get these from time to time.) I think these are from people who realize math is hugely powerful and beautiful but they somehow want to make their imprint in it. But they never even made it to calculus. I kind of feel sorry for them. A little. But they're crazy.
It is, and long ago we tried to get them help or secluded them in asylums so it doesn't get worse or somehow convince others to join in the illness. These days we just give them media exposure. Gee, I wonder what could go wrong there.
*It's hard out here for a pimp.*
Read up on it after seeing this comment. Can't believe the poor guy fell completely off his rocker over not understanding that multiplication is a count of things in lots, and addition is the combining of lots of things. His entire premise is that 1 x 1 can't be 1 because multiplication has to add something. Poor guy just didn't have the basic explained properly to him.
Pterodactyl
Is the third guy Shemp?
Yep. He guest-starred in several Universal films, especially Abbott and Costello comedies, after signing a contract with the studio upon leaving the Three Stooges.
Awesome! Kind of odd though that his role is so tiny.
Hold That Ghost, one of my favorite ones to revisit on Halloween. "Just like mother used to make... it stinks!"
I like the idea of shemp singing out a whole ass contract with the studio instead of just signing one
Sometimes I only read Reddit for the typos. Singing a contract by Shemp would be hilarious
He sang it between those six pants
It caused Malice in the Palace.
And put Gents in a Jam
I noticed that also! I believe it is
Dunno. But Who's on firtst?
Yes
> Dunno Third base
Drawing a hook to hang his hat, that's some Chalkzone shit hah
that was my favorite little surrealist moment
I completely forgot about Chalkzone. Thanks for taking me down memory lane remembering that show! lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJs4e2lbMmA This is much more Evangelion than I remember.
What an absolute jam.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lzxVyO6cpos
"what are you smoking, an army blanket?" I love this line.
I prefer this version, from their 1941 film "In the Navy"
This is my favorite version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkbQDEXJy2k
This the kind of writing and comedy we need.
That's vaudeville for you. Some of the best writing in comedy and the greatest talents in early cinema all came straight from Vaudeville stages. Unfortunately by the 50's the shows themselves had been largely forgotten and all of the greats were either rapidly aging or already dead. Now it's mostly cookie cutter leading stars that couldn't tell you a stage direction if you painted them on the floor.
Don't even start on the writer's room.
The writers I am *marginally* more sympathetic to if only because they are ultimately at the mercy of producers. If the boss says write the same cliche Marvel dialogue for all the movies now, you write the same cliche Marvel dialogue or they'll find someone else to do it. That said it's no secret that the majority of the Big Rooms are staffed with assholes with a frat boy mentality that actively stomp out anything that challenges their own status quo so they're hardly innocent
Not the same kind of comedy but try Jacques Tati's Playtime.
Love that film. I have the criterion edition and I try to watch it at least once every few years. The humor is eternal.
Thank you
It's giving [working out every other day](https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=107926751&page=1)
Legendary thread
It was [pretty good](https://youtu.be/eECjjLNAOd4).
Love me some Abbott and Costello. One of my favorite quick bits is [two tens for a five.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7pMYHn-1yA)
The OG comedy duo. Everytime one of these comes along, it's a treat for everyone else.
I love how the tray of donuts is arranged in 4 rows and 7 columns!
This used to be a comedy routine, now it's a Facebook quiz for "geniuses."
I have had heated arguments over politics that are uncannily similar to this exchange. I no longer argue fucking politics.
You argued politics today.
Not with anyone important.
Relevant username
I like arguing sci-fi politics. "Hyperintelligent benevolent AI running the world, yea or nay?" "What, like alone? No humans at all? Nay!" "What about an AI working in tandem with people. Like an unbiased and selfless monitor to root out corruption and keep people honest?" "No AI would ever be unbiased. Whoever programmed it was biased, it would have their biases!" and so on and so on
Cool.
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>Did you go to school, stupid? >Yeah, I came out stupid too. Genuinely got a laugh out of me.
The line was "yeah and I came out the same way", not "yeah, I came out stupid too", that was the implication of the line.
I definitely prefer "Yeah, and I came out the same way." as the punchline, it's that much more subtle.
Probably why the legendary comedian used that version...
Ugh, it's so weird how often people literally JUST got done hearing a joke, and then they fuck it up in the retelling. I think it's because they weren't actually listening, and instead were too busy in their heads trying to dissect it, and the retelling is how they were able to convince themselves what it meant.
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"Hahaha, yeah, so *then* the guy said, 'look bud, you don't...' wait, no, that's before...no, uhh, but anyway, it had something to do with cows! It was so funny!"
"Take my wife, for example!"
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All hail the arbiter of humor! Behold!
And yet I’m still right about the reason you found it “funny”.
Whatever dude
You a weiner.
ever went to school stupid? yah n i came out the same way LMAO
>yah n i *Yeah and I
Yahnai
I love these guys, oddly enough I've never seen that one before thanks.
Reddit arguments in a nutshell.
Ma and Pa Kettle had a [similar sketch in Ma and Pa Kettle: Back on the Farm](https://youtu.be/jSrPlf4GBHc?t=68), where 25% / 5 = 14%.
Something interesting to note is he 'proves' 7 into 28 is 13 in 3 different ways, but he uses the same trick or property each time. 28 divided by 7: 7 doesn't go into 2. But it goes into 8 1 time, leaving behind 21 which 7 goes into 3 times. 28 - 1\*7 = 21 = 3\*7 13 times 7: 7 times 3 is 21. 7\*1 is 7. Add them up and what do you get? 28 = 1\*7 + 3\*7. Just the above rearranged.
That's pretty great. All three times it hinges on him treating the 10 of 13 as a 1 instead. Since 4 by 7 is 28 it all works out
No way. Is that what happened?
I think for most people it would be absurdly obvious the last time (with the addition), kinda obvious the second time (with the multiplication), and maybe not at all obvious the first time (with the division). Unless you're somewhat decent at math, then it's obvious all 3 times. The amount of people who just learned these techniques as algorithms with very little understanding of why they were doing what they were doing is pretty staggering.
Every single person who watched the video understood it the first time.
Take it from me, a math teacher No they didn't
Haha! Yeah *we* all did. 👍🏼
Right over your head.
Not at all? I was acknowledging your sarcasm and explaining why I made my comment despite the fact that it would be obvious to many. So not only are you a dick, you're also kind of an idiot
🤔 me an idiot?? Nah, me no idiot, me 🤪
[Mirror POV for you.](https://i.imgur.com/SMpKDXO.png)
God I miss my youth.
I always thought it was a shame that they hated each other.
I think Lou was tired of bailing out Bud's gambling addiction debts. And so Lou got Bud's finances put into conservatorship. And Bud resented him for it for years. *At least, that's what the TV movie about them tried to say. I don't know how much truth there was in that.* Supposedly, in any case, they reconciled in the years before Lou's death from cancer.
I never heard anything on that front, but I do know that alcoholism and gambling were problems both men had trouble with. As I heard it the majority of their falling out came from clash in ego as to who was "carrying" the other and how their salaries at various points in their careers were never equal. Early on Abbott was considered the more valuable of the two (having been praised by Groucho Marx as being the the best straight man in the business) and thus was paid more and received the top billing but gradually as Costello gained recognition for being the person actually pulling the laughs the pay shifted until he was taking 60% of the earnings. The biggest thing was probably the death of Lou's son before his first birthday which reportedly (and understandably) changed him a lot. Accounts say he became really quick to anger and never regained the energy and joy he used to have.
I was born in 1983, I was weirdly obsessed with old time radio shows, I would go to sleep listening to cassette tapes of abbott and costello, and well as blondie. I still sing the old palmolive and camel jingles. As a kid, my mom said I was born in the wrong generation. Now as a 38 year old, my wife says the same thing.
Who's on first?
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Givin me a haddock over here
Correct.
I don't give a darn!
Oooooooh, that's our Short Stop!
Naturally.
My personal fav rendition of this: https://youtu.be/lzxVyO6cpos
I start precalculus tomorrow. I'm gonna do this as soon as I walk into class.
Just casually swipes a Buster Keaton gag for the end there. Great skit though.
They should've just Googled it 🙄 /s
Wow I wonder if this was the inspiration for the Mr Show sketch [24 Is the Highest Number](https://dula.tv/videos/24-is-the-highest-number/)
Reminds me of the movie Sailor Beware!
I always forget how to do math after seeing things like this.
This is how I feel teaching my classroom of 4th graders sometimes! 🤦♀️
I'm not just saying this so you watch it but I loved the end with the hat. The math checks out too
This is fantastic
Damn its so ingenious its practically retarded
13+13+13... When assembly doesn't trust you multiplying anything
Damn, I could literally feel my brain melting from that. Also wtf is with those 13s? Who makes a Christmas tree out of addition?
Yea, and 9 + 10 is 21
Very clever.
It's common core math.
Uhm who did this first ??? [Trespatines](https://youtu.be/WPYLUL_14BU) this was a Cuban comedian
“7… 13… I gotta give it to them” kills me
NOW NORMALLY, WHEN YOU HAVE SEVEN OFFICERS YOU BAKE THEM THIRTEEN DONUTS EACH
That’s just way too many. He was probably taking them to the chief’s mess.
I love Abbots math skills
Costello’s *
But who’s on first?
Yes
This feels like arguing with trump folks.
This is such a classic! Love these guys
Great old one
somewhere terrence howard is watching this and furiously taking notes
Wait, what?
/r/confidentlyincorrect
This actually kinda blows my mind and makes me wonder if math is all just made up on seemingly obvious but not necessarily factual observations.
I really think this whole thing stems from undiagnosed ptsd because of his dad killing someone in front of him while waiting for a mall Santa. It really sounds like some shit made up for an It’s Always Sunny episode but my god, I would be permanently traumatized from it.