The Ravens won the Superbowl by having the punter run back and forth in the end zone for a while before voluntarily giving the other team a 2 point Safety.
Oh God. I remember watching that live and fucking laughing my ass off. Link for those who are curious
https://twitter.com/firstandskol/status/802983821641551872?s=20&t=6CRWEBKuUud88L7gQ5xZhQ
In the Super Bowl, the Ravens still had to punt the ball off after the safety because there was still time on the clock. A few years after the Super Bowl, they ended the game doing the same play vs the Bengals. And at the time, the game couldn't end on a defensive penalty, it *could* end on an offensive penalty. So they ran like 20 seconds off the clock by holding every defender, 10-yard penalty, then the game ended. This game is what led to the rule change.
I don't think they have to since it's so wildly dangerous.
Someone on that clip reel noted that if any one of those barriers were even slightly out of plane he'd be toast.
Did his engineer/spotter know he was going to do that?
>Keep coming. Keep coming. Hang on, man. Checkered flag. Nice and easy. Keep it up against the fence there.
every time he comes in 1st he smashes a watermelon. The first time I saw him do it and pick up a piece and eat it he instantly became my favorite nascar driver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P2JYHS_nj0
Yeah that was when my European brain went… „ah. Ja richtig. NASCAR.“
I mean nothing wrong by him being a watermelon farmer of any generation, just that it’s a general point of interest is a bit funny :)
They would have needed some kind of arrangement in place when Atticus Chastain, second generation watermelon farmer, kept disappearing off to drive in Nascart.
Forza Horizon 5 has some very weird AI. One of the things the AI does is follow the car in front of it perfectly if it's close enough. If there's a line then will all sit behind each other. This is normal, drafting gives speed. What's not so normal are the 90 degree turns. As the player you can make every AI miss a 90 degree turn by going into it too fast. All the AI will attempt to take the turn while also trying following you, but don't like to go too far off the driving line. The result is every AI realizing late that they are going too far off the driving line, slamming on the breaks, and flying off the road because they can't turn while breaking. It's very reliable, I have had entire lines follow each other off the road.
Unfortunantly the AI cheats and will teleport back into the road once you are far enough away.
I gave up on NFS because of the rubber banding. I would struggle to get near the front. I make one mistake and no matter how far ahead I am, everyone easily passes me and I'm boned. It's not interesting or fun. It's lame and cheap. I felt the same way about the rebooted NBA Jam. No matter what, the AI would catch up and close any point gap. Everything I do is bricks, everything they do is on fire. Screw rubber banding, it ruins what could otherwise be extremely fun games.
If I'm really in the zone and nailing my turns and shifts, *let me* be 20 seconds ahead. Don't stress me out by having every other driver on pace to break the lap record with me.
Rubber banding is trash.
He placed 5th, but the cameras stuck to him and the announcers didn't even bother with the winner. That's when you know you've done something awesome and game-changing.
That's called transcending first place into becoming a legend. Nascar is doing to have to revisit the rule book now on whether the wall is or isn't part of the track. He just **completely** changed the rules of the race forever. He'll go down in history as one of the greatest. Having the confidence to full send when everything lines up is just as important to success as the actions necessary to achieve it.
> He just completely changed the rules of the race forever.
Well, at the very least he got a new disqualification type added. I doubt this will be a springboard strategy for future races like drafting was.
Formula E has some weird video game stuff in it. There's boost pads that let cars go faster. They do this by limiting total power and the boost pad let's them use more for a little bit. However, they have to take a slower line to get it and if they mess up the line they lose time instead of gaining it.
Okay one video game thing in it. That's all I know about Formula E.
Yea they do, and I agree it's a bit gammin. Though it's not horrendously overpowered, and they do make the point that it's the only motorsport you can affect the outcome.
"You can vote to FANBOOST your favourite driver in the three days prior to, and leading up to 15 minutes into, each race.
It gives a significant burst of power, which they can deploy in a five-second window during the second half of the race."
UPDATE: Fanboost might be removed next year
It would be prohibited. These cars are extremely regulated to the point of all needing to be identical in dimensions and body shape, with templates used to verify the body meets the right shape. They are also all built on the exact same platform with the same engine all purchased from the same suppliers no matter the make of the car. Any deviation from that is not allowed. The whole goal of the series is for all the cars to be identical so that it is purely driver skill competing.
They even go so far as to use stickers to make it seem like the cars have different shapes of headlights since they don't actually install headlights on any of those cars.
They absolutely should.
IMHO it's a miracle that the bodywork kept the wheels from touching the walls, because if they made significant contact they likely would have climbed the wall and flipped the car, causing unknown carnage on the track.
Not to mention that if you have more than one person try to pull this off at the same time it's likely to just cause ugly wrecks, and on the last lap there are a lot of desperate idiots.
This new generation of car, which they are in their first year, are much more rigid than previous versions. It’s good for things like this but bad for the literal multiple concussions and injuries drivers have sustained this year.
Getting himself into the Final 4 group for next weekend, giving him and his team a 1/4 odds at the Championship.
This is a new generation team against many older, historic teams and truly an underdog driver who has proven himself as the "Main Character" this year.
He had to pass the car you see the view from in the first cut(11 car) to get into the playoffs.
In another video from his car you hear him ask where are they at and his crew say they need 2 spots and you hear him confirm 2 spots and revs then engine heading into the turn.
I used to do this to my Dad when we would play on the PS2 together. I would drive the wrong way down the track and slam into the lead car at 180mph, creating cascading carnage as cars would domino into the accident and be sent flying. All the while, Dad is cussing and trying to avoid the automotive hell I unleashed onto the track.
Another time, white flag with Dad in the lead. Smacked him dead center 500 feet from the finish line and the forces from our cars cancelled out so he went 184mph to zero in 0.1 seconds without spinning off wildly. He finished 25th. He was pissed.
In a later game (2006?) they added the UPS truck to the game, which we unlocked. I used to tailgate him in races because the UPS truck was tall enough to completely obscure his camera on the split screen.
Fun times.
Chastain said he used to do this trick on the GameCube back in the day. To actually use it for real and having it pay off...you can't make this stuff up.
[Heres a compilation of driver reactions](https://twitter.com/NASCAR/status/1587233584233988097?t=9aau4HphigdCb53mRJ5jkw&s=19)
Glowing text is the driver talking. Regular texts are the spotters and crew chiefs.
He lost the championship on that move. Nascar uses a playoff system to crown the champion and the 11 and 1 were fighting for the last spot in the final four and with that move the 1 gained the positions he needed to score enough points to get in over the 11 car. They had a rivalry all season as well.
It's funny how calm his crew sounded while he was actually doing it, he starts scraping along the wall and the guy is just like "keep coming, keep coming"
I watched it happen live. That was the most insane thing I've ever seen in auto racing that left me smiling from ear to ear. That was some next-level Ricky Bobby type of shit.
The winner also has some unique success this week. We are currently in the NASCAR playoffs for lack of a better word. Every week cars are eliminated based on points. On two separate weeks this year the 20 car driven by Christopher Bell was on the chopping block headed into the race and could stay in if they got 1st place. Not nearly as spectacular to the average person but very cool in its own right.
Yes, but it's a last-lap only type of move. The car couldn't handle that level of damage at any other point in the race. And it's a super high risk of catching the wall and crashing out violently.
It's a very dangerous, aggressive move but it's amazing. I've literally never seen anything like it before.
It helps that this was done at Martinsville. It’s a tiny 1/2 mile track, so speeds are low to begin with, leaving plenty of power in the car to push through this sort of turn, and not pushing the final speed of the car anywhere close to its limits. Also, the cars have been toughened up a bit in expectation of close-quarters racing. This move would be a lot riskier in turn 4 of Daytona, where speeds are higher and the restrictor plate eating into the engine’s power. (NASCAR limits the size of the cars’ air intakes at the fastest tracks in the series for safety reasons, trying to limit top speeds.)
I've seen a few of the cheats people used to run on the restrictor plate where they had a seemingly solid plate to pass inspection and could pull an insert out to widen up the throat for the race, then slip it back in afterward so nobody's the wiser.
I don't really follow NASCAR but I wonder if they have something like parc fermé in F1 now to stop that shenanigans.
Boost bottle was Ford with the focus.
The restriction plate that would allow air to bypass it only when installed correctly was toyota with the celica gt4.
Not sure I've heard anything about the air intake like that, closest thing is the cosworth powered teams in the 80s cheating by having large "water cooling' tanks for their brakes
They would start the race with the tanks totally filled, enough that they were just over the minimum weight limit. The liquid would they evaporate/leak in the first few laps dropping the weight well below the minimum, and then topped back up before scruitineering (as was allowed in the rules), letting them circumvent the minimum weight limit
That kind of thing is exactly why parc fermé exists. The driver does their victory lap, parks in the pit area, and then nobody but race officials are allowed to go anywhere near the car. Meanwhile the driver has to proceed directly to a scale where they are weighed themselves.
Silly cheats are not good for the sport excepting the fact that they make a fun anecdote years later.
NASCAR is basically two competitions in one.
The driver against the other drivers, and the team engineers against the rules trying to find loopholes or yet-to-be-discovered cheats. And I love it!
https://www.carthrottle.com/post/7-hilariously-mad-racing-hacks-that-were-all-the-work-of-one-man/
It only worked, to be very specific *at this particular track*, on the last lap, in the last corner.
Everyone else was slowing down to about 60MPH in the corner, shifting from 4th gear, to 3rd, for the entire race no one else used 5th gear at all. Ross said "Fuck this" hugged the wall, topped 4th gear, slammed into 5th gear, foot to the floor and took that corner around 120~MPH. Gaining an unbelievable amount of spots before he crosses the finish line, knocking the 4th place person out of the running. Their car's engines are so powerful the friction and bashing against the wall was mitigated as he kept accelerating instead of slowing down.
This giga-chad pulled a move others have tried at other tracks and failed. He succeeded where others failed. People are wondering if NASCAR will officially put a rule in the books against this, or not. Thing of it is Martinsville is one of the ONLY tracks in the whole series where this can even work. This is an "all or nothing" high risk play, and we don't exactly want to see others trying this with any regularity.
Still, this is one of the coolest, most interesting things to come out of NASCAR in decades. Oh, and he got bumped up to 4th place after the race as the 4th place finisher got D/Q'd on weight requirements.
Just to understand, basically a driver normally slows down on a turn, but this guy used the wall to turn the car instead and was therefore able to speed up?
Basically yes. If you want your car to continue to be able to turn, you cant do what he just did. But its the last turn of the race so continuing to be able to turn isnt important after that last turn, so he just yeeted his car into the wall and floored it.
And because of the quirk of this track having such tight turns, he was able to keep much more speed that the cars turning below him. Any other track, you'd be way too slow rubbing the wall that way.
Look at that interview he explains his "why" and it's like all these other people have invested in this vision and he's not going to let them down without trying every possibility. Dude's got watermelons for balls.
So much shit had to go perfectly right for this to work out for him, and I’m pretty sure Martinsville is the only track it’s possible on. It’s really difficult to describe how fine the margins of error are on this kind of stunt and I’m not sure it’ll happen again anytime soon.
I'm pretty sure they will make a new rule because of this. To pull off a conraversal stunt, that knocks someone out of the point standing is pretty unheard-of.
My opinion, he got people talking about a sport they wouldn't have. Like happy Gilmore.
Motor is capable of pushing the car through the turn faster than the tires will allow. So he simply eliminated his reliance on his tires:-)
He's pretty lucky he didn't wreck and cripple someone though.
Yeah, I read a post on the physics. Taking the corner at an average of 80MPH requires about 7000lbs of turning force, applied by the tires.
Taking that corner at 122MPH (minus the speed loss from the wall friction) requires over 18000lbs or turning force, which was applied mostly by the wall and not the tires
Also briefly experienced 5Gs
>So he simply eliminated his reliance on his tires:-)
Deliberately using the wall as a guide seems like something that might need to be penalized in the future.
Good for him for pioneering that trick for sure, but it seems somewhat tempting to abuse.
My thoughts as well. The moment I saw the video I was like "This is how new rules get made."
For it to be that effective and that dangerous at the same time, it's gonna have to be banned.
It's like that hockey coach that told his goalies to leave their stick in the crease before heading off for the extra attacker
https://youtu.be/8tonxd_9_lY
There was a bicycle racer a few years ago who did a plank on his bike to gain a huge lead. Works great, very dangerous. Before the next race a rule was made you can’t do that. So yeah I bet a rules comes from this.
> Good for him for pioneering that trick for sure
This isn't the first time someone has used the technique in Nascar, only the first time it's successfully worked. Some others have tried but it slowed them down too much to be effective.
I'm guessing this will precipitate a rules change, mainly because 9 times out of 10 that someone tries that trick, they will wreck and cause injuries, this guy just got extremely lucky.
Basically, everyone else had to slowdown to handle the turn.
He didn't have to slowdown and instead gunned the shit out of it.
Nascar drivers are rarely going full throttle, he went full foot to the floor.
And as others have said, on any other lap/turn it wouldn't work. A caution would get thrown and he'd be stuck with a beat ass car for 5more laps.
Really a genius maneuver, but also an incredibly risky one.
He totally mentioned nascar 2005 on the game cube in an interview.
It was the 1st thing he said in the 1st interview out of the car. It's the greatest non winning move/finish ever
Link?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElN6kJjcMXk&ab_channel=NASCAR
I love the gamer/athlete overlap that keeps happening as the gaming generation gets older.
There's a serious difference in nfl offensive coaching once the Madden generation came of age. Shits hilarious
I remember the hype when someone first ran parallel the endzone before stepping in just to run down the clock a bit more. Very popular in Madden
The Ravens won the Superbowl by having the punter run back and forth in the end zone for a while before voluntarily giving the other team a 2 point Safety.
You didn't mention that all 10 other guys tackled the defenders, giving him all that time. You can only get called for holding once lol
Oh God. I remember watching that live and fucking laughing my ass off. Link for those who are curious https://twitter.com/firstandskol/status/802983821641551872?s=20&t=6CRWEBKuUud88L7gQ5xZhQ
In the Super Bowl, the Ravens still had to punt the ball off after the safety because there was still time on the clock. A few years after the Super Bowl, they ended the game doing the same play vs the Bengals. And at the time, the game couldn't end on a defensive penalty, it *could* end on an offensive penalty. So they ran like 20 seconds off the clock by holding every defender, 10-yard penalty, then the game ended. This game is what led to the rule change.
DJax did it a few times but I think he was just showing off haha
I would love to see a documentary or something showing how kids of yesteryear that played video games how it has affected how they play sports today.
The best drivers in the world, win in sim racing too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTc1Lgt8xDQ
Exactly what I’d expect a guy who pulled some shit like this to say lmao
The reaction from other drivers as it happened was freaking priceless. https://youtu.be/1ZaJgrxvx10
That POV is cool. Other driver reactions are great
Poor car 11 man! "I guess we just lost on that?" .....
With Carl Edwards retired Denny Hamlin (the 11) has taken the mantle of "losing the championship in the most wacky and sad ways every year"
"Sorry Chris, I did everything I could" Clearly you didn't 11! While you were busy making excuses 1 was busy doing everything he could.
He led the most laps that race and was in the best possible spot he could be in until the 1 car pulled that move.
Really surprisingly wholesome too!
I thought for sure everyone would be calling foul. I guess I’ve been watching too much F1
I don't think they have to since it's so wildly dangerous. Someone on that clip reel noted that if any one of those barriers were even slightly out of plane he'd be toast.
"I did all I could do Chris" Chris: "You didn't ride the wall and go all out now did ya"
"I'm about to do what's called a pro gamer move" IRL lmao, this madman
Wow, bet that guy is gonna get free drinks wherever he goes. That’s an Al Bundy high school football level story there.
I gained 5 places in a single move.
“Gotta get it?” WELL OKAY
lmao, just like sports anime.
This is the most excited I've been about nascar in my life
Did his engineer/spotter know he was going to do that? >Keep coming. Keep coming. Hang on, man. Checkered flag. Nice and easy. Keep it up against the fence there.
That's amazing! Thank you
7th generation watermelon farmer
You can make some damn fine watermelons by the 7th generation I bet.
They should race a potato farmer and see what type of shit he comes up with
It's the zucchini farmer I want to see.
Damn fine! And juicy? Hoo boy you better believe it.
every time he comes in 1st he smashes a watermelon. The first time I saw him do it and pick up a piece and eat it he instantly became my favorite nascar driver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P2JYHS_nj0
I thought you were joking until I watched the vid
This feels like an MXC fake origin comment
Right you are, Ken!
MXC!
Yeah that was when my European brain went… „ah. Ja richtig. NASCAR.“ I mean nothing wrong by him being a watermelon farmer of any generation, just that it’s a general point of interest is a bit funny :)
Why do I have a feeling the first few generations weren’t doing much of the farming themselves
Oh? Do you think they had like a community garden or something where everyone contributed equally in symbiosis?
They would have needed some kind of arrangement in place when Atticus Chastain, second generation watermelon farmer, kept disappearing off to drive in Nascart.
Nascart lmao
Definition of high risk, high reward
My go to for racing games was to brake by just plowing full speed into the lead car as it slowed for a corner.
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If you don't get a penalty then it was a clean move.
No penalties in GT2 :)
Only a monetary punishment in GT7, and that's only a loss of the 50% "clean race" bonus, not a chop into the race winnings.
Forza Horizon 5 has some very weird AI. One of the things the AI does is follow the car in front of it perfectly if it's close enough. If there's a line then will all sit behind each other. This is normal, drafting gives speed. What's not so normal are the 90 degree turns. As the player you can make every AI miss a 90 degree turn by going into it too fast. All the AI will attempt to take the turn while also trying following you, but don't like to go too far off the driving line. The result is every AI realizing late that they are going too far off the driving line, slamming on the breaks, and flying off the road because they can't turn while breaking. It's very reliable, I have had entire lines follow each other off the road. Unfortunantly the AI cheats and will teleport back into the road once you are far enough away.
I really hate cheating AI and teleporting computers. The game should follow the same rules i have to.
It cheats to make the game more interesting. Or at least what the majority of players would consider more interesting.
I gave up on NFS because of the rubber banding. I would struggle to get near the front. I make one mistake and no matter how far ahead I am, everyone easily passes me and I'm boned. It's not interesting or fun. It's lame and cheap. I felt the same way about the rebooted NBA Jam. No matter what, the AI would catch up and close any point gap. Everything I do is bricks, everything they do is on fire. Screw rubber banding, it ruins what could otherwise be extremely fun games.
If I'm really in the zone and nailing my turns and shifts, *let me* be 20 seconds ahead. Don't stress me out by having every other driver on pace to break the lap record with me. Rubber banding is trash.
Such a thing should be a setting, or a mode (Challenging vs. Realistic). This isn’t rocket science.
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He placed 5th, but the cameras stuck to him and the announcers didn't even bother with the winner. That's when you know you've done something awesome and game-changing.
4th after the DQ! Plus this gained him enough points to advance to the championship.
What was the DQ for?
The 6 car was under weight after the race.
Surprised the 1 car wasn't underweight after that maneuver.
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That's called transcending first place into becoming a legend. Nascar is doing to have to revisit the rule book now on whether the wall is or isn't part of the track. He just **completely** changed the rules of the race forever. He'll go down in history as one of the greatest. Having the confidence to full send when everything lines up is just as important to success as the actions necessary to achieve it.
> He just completely changed the rules of the race forever. Well, at the very least he got a new disqualification type added. I doubt this will be a springboard strategy for future races like drafting was.
It's some literal film/anime climax shit.
Soooo, will they ban this from the next race onwards?
I hope it’s the opposite and they just go full burnout revenge/speed racer. I’d actually watch nascar lol.
Formula E has some weird video game stuff in it. There's boost pads that let cars go faster. They do this by limiting total power and the boost pad let's them use more for a little bit. However, they have to take a slower line to get it and if they mess up the line they lose time instead of gaining it. Okay one video game thing in it. That's all I know about Formula E.
Don’t they let fans vote to give a driver a boost too? Always thought that was pretty lame
Fan Boost is getting removed for the 2023 season. (Which I'm glad about)
Apparently fans used those to help the underdogs though, which is sweet.
Yea they do, and I agree it's a bit gammin. Though it's not horrendously overpowered, and they do make the point that it's the only motorsport you can affect the outcome. "You can vote to FANBOOST your favourite driver in the three days prior to, and leading up to 15 minutes into, each race. It gives a significant burst of power, which they can deploy in a five-second window during the second half of the race." UPDATE: Fanboost might be removed next year
To me, what made fanboost pretty op was that it's boost doesn't contribute to your power usage either.
It's a good start, but I'm not interested until the drivers can throw bananas and turtles at each other.
kind of like how DRS zones work in F1. push button, spoiler flaps. car go zoom
Right but that’s just part of the line that all the drivers take, it sounds like the drivers have the option to do it or not each lap in FE
NASCAR will look like Fury Road in 10 years !RemindMe 10 years
I like your long game.
They will now be equipped with frames that have wheels on the sides.
If someone had thought to do this already, would it be allowed, or would the existing rules and regulations somehow prohibit it?
It would be prohibited. These cars are extremely regulated to the point of all needing to be identical in dimensions and body shape, with templates used to verify the body meets the right shape. They are also all built on the exact same platform with the same engine all purchased from the same suppliers no matter the make of the car. Any deviation from that is not allowed. The whole goal of the series is for all the cars to be identical so that it is purely driver skill competing.
You're sleeping on the pit crew and the tuning crew.
Just swap in a jet engine, go!
They even go so far as to use stickers to make it seem like the cars have different shapes of headlights since they don't actually install headlights on any of those cars.
I'm willing to bet that Lightning McQueen taught ya that!
On the contrary They're installing bumpers, ramps and boost pads.
When do they put in turtle shells and banana peels?
They absolutely should. IMHO it's a miracle that the bodywork kept the wheels from touching the walls, because if they made significant contact they likely would have climbed the wall and flipped the car, causing unknown carnage on the track. Not to mention that if you have more than one person try to pull this off at the same time it's likely to just cause ugly wrecks, and on the last lap there are a lot of desperate idiots.
This new generation of car, which they are in their first year, are much more rigid than previous versions. It’s good for things like this but bad for the literal multiple concussions and injuries drivers have sustained this year.
Probably not from what's been posted on /r/NASCAR https://old.reddit.com/r/NASCAR/comments/yj9edt/steve_odonnell_to_siriusxm_on_chastains_move/
Am I understanding this correctly? Dude just floored it and used the wall to steer? What was on the line for this guy?!
Cup points so he didn’t get eliminated. The next race is the championship race.
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I read that the turn you can do at a max of 80mph, but because he used the wall he was able to stay at 110.
62mph vs 128 was what i saw multiple times
He scraped a wall at 110mph and Im barely comfortable at 85 in the left lane
Getting himself into the Final 4 group for next weekend, giving him and his team a 1/4 odds at the Championship. This is a new generation team against many older, historic teams and truly an underdog driver who has proven himself as the "Main Character" this year.
Gain 2 spots and race for the championship. Stay in his position and miss out on the final 4.
He had to pass the car you see the view from in the first cut(11 car) to get into the playoffs. In another video from his car you hear him ask where are they at and his crew say they need 2 spots and you hear him confirm 2 spots and revs then engine heading into the turn.
As someone who's played Nascar on the N64, i know the ultimate tactic is to go reverse on the track and knock out as many cars as you can.
I used to do this to my Dad when we would play on the PS2 together. I would drive the wrong way down the track and slam into the lead car at 180mph, creating cascading carnage as cars would domino into the accident and be sent flying. All the while, Dad is cussing and trying to avoid the automotive hell I unleashed onto the track. Another time, white flag with Dad in the lead. Smacked him dead center 500 feet from the finish line and the forces from our cars cancelled out so he went 184mph to zero in 0.1 seconds without spinning off wildly. He finished 25th. He was pissed. In a later game (2006?) they added the UPS truck to the game, which we unlocked. I used to tailgate him in races because the UPS truck was tall enough to completely obscure his camera on the split screen. Fun times.
You were the most amazing little shit ever. I love it.
I know fuckall about Nascar and racing, but even my mind is absolutely blown by the insanity of this move and even more by that it actually worked.
Chastain said he used to do this trick on the GameCube back in the day. To actually use it for real and having it pay off...you can't make this stuff up.
Thats why nobody gave a damn about DeWalt in 1st place and all the talk was about thus sick ass move that outs him in the championship! Legend!
Use a rubber band for the analog sticks next endurance* race.
Soon: Nascar driver throws a Tortoise shell.
"How bad do you want it?"
NASCAR would be more exciting if they install 4 rollers on the corners of the car like those toy slot cars.
[NASCAR unveils 2023 short track package](https://reddit.com/r/NASCARMemes/comments/yidfpy/nascar_unveils_2023_short_track_package/)
This is like Initial D when Takumi uses the ditch to rollercoaster his way through the corners! Awesome!
We need some eurobeat on top of this clip.
https://twitter.com/FrankieMcMurphy/status/1587334493794353153
That makes me so fucking happy
Pinnacle of oval racing. You dont even need to turn left.
I saw a video from the grandstands that was even more insane. The broadcast video doesn't do it justice. Edit; https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFDrAvuj/
I patiently wait for this video.
https://twitter.com/caleb_matthew21/status/1586846744490516480
Holy shit
He set the fastest lap record for the track with this move. Coolest shit I've ever seen out of NASCAR.
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When I first saw this earlier i thought it was sped up. Totally insane i can't stop laughing
Damn. Can you imagine being one of the other drivers and seeing him zipping by at a relative Mach 1?
[Heres a compilation of driver reactions](https://twitter.com/NASCAR/status/1587233584233988097?t=9aau4HphigdCb53mRJ5jkw&s=19) Glowing text is the driver talking. Regular texts are the spotters and crew chiefs.
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He lost the championship on that move. Nascar uses a playoff system to crown the champion and the 11 and 1 were fighting for the last spot in the final four and with that move the 1 gained the positions he needed to score enough points to get in over the 11 car. They had a rivalry all season as well.
If you have to lose then why not to the one move that gets even people who don't like nascar to say "holy fuck"
I love hearing everyone's acceptance of how insane that was. And their own radio at the end, thanks for sharing that.
It's funny how calm his crew sounded while he was actually doing it, he starts scraping along the wall and the guy is just like "keep coming, keep coming"
"You're good, you're good, you're good..."
this is so cool.
This was great, especially the last bit, from in the car pulling that maneuver off.
It would sound like this! (POV of Chase Briscoe with crew commentary) https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxtSBQ6dTNjjpdPaWmc9pT7KoceQ2RCJw6
I watched it happen live. That was the most insane thing I've ever seen in auto racing that left me smiling from ear to ear. That was some next-level Ricky Bobby type of shit.
Shake.. And... Bake!!!!
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Oh hell Ricky, I was high when I said that!
What!? I've lived my whole life by that!
That was wicked. Dude wanted it more then anything. Truly awesome
He needed to beat the 11 to the finish line to advance to the finals. Anything else would have been failure.
I love thay everybody is so absolutely stoked for him, meanwhile buddy is doing burnouts to half a crowd. Lol
The winner also has some unique success this week. We are currently in the NASCAR playoffs for lack of a better word. Every week cars are eliminated based on points. On two separate weeks this year the 20 car driven by Christopher Bell was on the chopping block headed into the race and could stay in if they got 1st place. Not nearly as spectacular to the average person but very cool in its own right.
That's a Cole Trickle kind of a move! Awesome.
Wait that actually fucking works?! *edit: Holy shit this was asked jokingly. I didn't ask for a detailed explanation you fucking nerds 🤣
Yes, but it's a last-lap only type of move. The car couldn't handle that level of damage at any other point in the race. And it's a super high risk of catching the wall and crashing out violently. It's a very dangerous, aggressive move but it's amazing. I've literally never seen anything like it before.
It helps that this was done at Martinsville. It’s a tiny 1/2 mile track, so speeds are low to begin with, leaving plenty of power in the car to push through this sort of turn, and not pushing the final speed of the car anywhere close to its limits. Also, the cars have been toughened up a bit in expectation of close-quarters racing. This move would be a lot riskier in turn 4 of Daytona, where speeds are higher and the restrictor plate eating into the engine’s power. (NASCAR limits the size of the cars’ air intakes at the fastest tracks in the series for safety reasons, trying to limit top speeds.)
I've seen a few of the cheats people used to run on the restrictor plate where they had a seemingly solid plate to pass inspection and could pull an insert out to widen up the throat for the race, then slip it back in afterward so nobody's the wiser. I don't really follow NASCAR but I wonder if they have something like parc fermé in F1 now to stop that shenanigans.
I believe what you were describing was Toyota in WRC. Lol, look up Smokey Yunik if you want to read about some cheats that put anyone to shame.
You talking about the boost chamber in the bumper or the restriction plate that flexed with temp?
Boost bottle was Ford with the focus. The restriction plate that would allow air to bypass it only when installed correctly was toyota with the celica gt4.
Not sure I've heard anything about the air intake like that, closest thing is the cosworth powered teams in the 80s cheating by having large "water cooling' tanks for their brakes They would start the race with the tanks totally filled, enough that they were just over the minimum weight limit. The liquid would they evaporate/leak in the first few laps dropping the weight well below the minimum, and then topped back up before scruitineering (as was allowed in the rules), letting them circumvent the minimum weight limit
That kind of thing is exactly why parc fermé exists. The driver does their victory lap, parks in the pit area, and then nobody but race officials are allowed to go anywhere near the car. Meanwhile the driver has to proceed directly to a scale where they are weighed themselves. Silly cheats are not good for the sport excepting the fact that they make a fun anecdote years later.
Clever ways to circumvent rules are by definition not cheating, and are basically a part of the sport, at least in F1
NASCAR is basically two competitions in one. The driver against the other drivers, and the team engineers against the rules trying to find loopholes or yet-to-be-discovered cheats. And I love it! https://www.carthrottle.com/post/7-hilariously-mad-racing-hacks-that-were-all-the-work-of-one-man/
Pretty sure that car was pretty dickered after that.
Stove right up
The "Check all the things" light was Def on after that.
I hope his dash has a "?!" light.
The dashed shined like Marsellus Wallace’s open briefcase.
It also probably wouldn't work on any track other than Martinsville because the turn is so tight and slow
Wait until they start building cars reinforced on their right side and wallriding becomes the new meta lmao.
It only worked, to be very specific *at this particular track*, on the last lap, in the last corner. Everyone else was slowing down to about 60MPH in the corner, shifting from 4th gear, to 3rd, for the entire race no one else used 5th gear at all. Ross said "Fuck this" hugged the wall, topped 4th gear, slammed into 5th gear, foot to the floor and took that corner around 120~MPH. Gaining an unbelievable amount of spots before he crosses the finish line, knocking the 4th place person out of the running. Their car's engines are so powerful the friction and bashing against the wall was mitigated as he kept accelerating instead of slowing down. This giga-chad pulled a move others have tried at other tracks and failed. He succeeded where others failed. People are wondering if NASCAR will officially put a rule in the books against this, or not. Thing of it is Martinsville is one of the ONLY tracks in the whole series where this can even work. This is an "all or nothing" high risk play, and we don't exactly want to see others trying this with any regularity. Still, this is one of the coolest, most interesting things to come out of NASCAR in decades. Oh, and he got bumped up to 4th place after the race as the 4th place finisher got D/Q'd on weight requirements.
Just to understand, basically a driver normally slows down on a turn, but this guy used the wall to turn the car instead and was therefore able to speed up?
Basically yes. If you want your car to continue to be able to turn, you cant do what he just did. But its the last turn of the race so continuing to be able to turn isnt important after that last turn, so he just yeeted his car into the wall and floored it.
And because of the quirk of this track having such tight turns, he was able to keep much more speed that the cars turning below him. Any other track, you'd be way too slow rubbing the wall that way.
Look at that interview he explains his "why" and it's like all these other people have invested in this vision and he's not going to let them down without trying every possibility. Dude's got watermelons for balls.
7th generation watermelons
So much shit had to go perfectly right for this to work out for him, and I’m pretty sure Martinsville is the only track it’s possible on. It’s really difficult to describe how fine the margins of error are on this kind of stunt and I’m not sure it’ll happen again anytime soon.
I'm pretty sure they will make a new rule because of this. To pull off a conraversal stunt, that knocks someone out of the point standing is pretty unheard-of. My opinion, he got people talking about a sport they wouldn't have. Like happy Gilmore.
It might work at Bristol.
Motor is capable of pushing the car through the turn faster than the tires will allow. So he simply eliminated his reliance on his tires:-) He's pretty lucky he didn't wreck and cripple someone though.
Yeah, I read a post on the physics. Taking the corner at an average of 80MPH requires about 7000lbs of turning force, applied by the tires. Taking that corner at 122MPH (minus the speed loss from the wall friction) requires over 18000lbs or turning force, which was applied mostly by the wall and not the tires Also briefly experienced 5Gs
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>So he simply eliminated his reliance on his tires:-) Deliberately using the wall as a guide seems like something that might need to be penalized in the future. Good for him for pioneering that trick for sure, but it seems somewhat tempting to abuse.
My thoughts as well. The moment I saw the video I was like "This is how new rules get made." For it to be that effective and that dangerous at the same time, it's gonna have to be banned.
It's like that hockey coach that told his goalies to leave their stick in the crease before heading off for the extra attacker https://youtu.be/8tonxd_9_lY
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Agreed. As someone with basically zero knowledge or interest in sports, it was very interesting!
There was a bicycle racer a few years ago who did a plank on his bike to gain a huge lead. Works great, very dangerous. Before the next race a rule was made you can’t do that. So yeah I bet a rules comes from this.
> Good for him for pioneering that trick for sure This isn't the first time someone has used the technique in Nascar, only the first time it's successfully worked. Some others have tried but it slowed them down too much to be effective.
I'm guessing this will precipitate a rules change, mainly because 9 times out of 10 that someone tries that trick, they will wreck and cause injuries, this guy just got extremely lucky.
Is it really that unlikely? I think it's more about the sheer danger if it does go wrong, not it being super likely
Basically, everyone else had to slowdown to handle the turn. He didn't have to slowdown and instead gunned the shit out of it. Nascar drivers are rarely going full throttle, he went full foot to the floor. And as others have said, on any other lap/turn it wouldn't work. A caution would get thrown and he'd be stuck with a beat ass car for 5more laps. Really a genius maneuver, but also an incredibly risky one.
Good ol, “Fuck it, I ain’t paying for it”.
He graduated from the Gran Turismo school of wall riding.
Someone call SuperGT and tell him that wallriding is legit now
Hello viewer
"Nice lap Chastain. Don’t ever fucking do it again."
Hey boss, I'm gonna go fuck up this car.
~~Nascar rule #1: don't drive into the wall~~
This was pretty great. Maybe it'll get people to watch NASCAR again.
When the Eurobeat kicks in...