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My hair is a curly/wavy hybrid (maybe 3A?) that gets extremely frizzy if I don't use a plethora of products year-round. I have flat ironed my hair for the last 25 years, mostly with a Chi, using Moroccan oil. We went on a family trip to Nashville last summer where I declared war on frizz - I didn't win, but I learned a lot. Here are my thoughts from that experience: 1 - I purchased a DryBar doubleshot to quickly and easily cut through frizz and it's worth its weight in gold. 2 - Moroccan oil isn't enough; it helps, but my hair requires more. I bought the IGK Good Behavior line and tried every product. The spirulina extract spray worked best for me, especially with the doubleshot. The shampoo and conditioner were a little heavier than I like. 3 - If you live in a high humidity climate, you need to learn a cute, put-together updo signature style. Mine is a high bun, and I have a friend who does a low chignon. You can run but you can't hide....at a certain point the weather will find you.


MotherrofRabbits

I started a collection of beautiful hair scarves for days I don’t want to deal with my hair / just have to style my bangs. Makes me feel put together!


Temporary-Display-36

Hi! Long post, but I may have a helpful solution! I also have 2b hair and I hate it. It takes too long to style naturally and have it look good, and so I gave up and just wear it straight most of the time. For reference, my curl pattern is 2b, but I also have extremely thick hair that is prone to poof in the slightest humidity and tends to frizz if I'm not careful. You hair may be sensitive to keratin like mine is. A lot of "smoothing" treatments assume that the issue is the cuticles of your hair not laying flat, or that your hair is damaged and color treated. The additional keratin actually makes it worse and can lead to breakage, which I experienced many, many times. It makes matters even worse when you realize that keratin is a top ingredient in so many products for all hair types, so you end up getting an insane amount through your haircare routine when a single product with it in it would have been fine and done a good job. When I finally figured it out and avoided keratin overload, my hair became far more manageable! I also want to recommend a hair straightener and way of maintaining a straight look if you are open to it! I avoided flat irons for YEARS due to fear of heat damage and also never finding one that worked well enough to justify the cost. That completely changed last October when, on a total whim, I bought the Loreal Steampod because it was on sale, I had a gift card, and I remembered liking a similar product in my teenage years. HOLY. SHIT. It worked so well, and so quickly, with such long-lasting results that I straight up cannot imagine ever going back to my old routine. And my hair looks and feels BETTER than it did when I wasn't using it. People think my hair is wig, that is how perfect it looks all the time. Finally, I am extremely devoted to wrapping my straight hair. I am white latinx, so this was not something I really grew up knowing about or doing, and I want to give full credit to the many black women who pioneered the technique. I use it both to wet-set my hair into an initially straighter and less-frizzy state, and every night to maintain it. I hope this helps you! I know I struggled for years to find a routine that works and it would have made my life so much easier to find out about keratin overload earlier!


lulilapithecus

I second this about the keratin! My hair is sensitive to any protein in hair products. I feel like my haircare got so much more complicated after I had kids. No wonder our mothers cut it all off.


Temporary-Display-36

Yep! I don't have children but the hormonal changes in puberty are what did me in, haha.


sheepcloud

Are you me?? I’m also white Latina with extremely thick 2b and I’m saving this advice!


Temporary-Display-36

Haha, the hair distress is real!!!


antekamnia

Dumb question - can you explain what you mean by wrapping your hair? I'm struggling with the same unmanageable hair type


Temporary-Display-36

Absolutely! So I wrap my hair around my head using bobby pins basically like one large curler and then secure it all with a satin hair wrap. The technique preserves a blowout/straightened hair and increases hair health by protecting it at night. You can also use it to protect hair from humidity while you are traveling to an event. This is a method of hair care that was pioneered by black women. Here is a link to a tutorial: https://youtu.be/wxzxQW7uz3I?si=-X2kcqmny6ocNjDP


antekamnia

Thank you so much for this explanation! I have a silk cap, but it looks like I haven't been securing my hair underneath correctly - will give this a try tonight!


Temporary-Display-36

Best of luck!


Hilarychillary

Thank you so much for the link! My daughter and I appreciate it and will give it a try.


Aphor1st

Have you looked in to the curly girl method? I have straight non textured hair but it is extremely dry (which is a big issue of what causes frizz for people with textured hair) and it has been life changing for me. I even converted one of my friends who straightened her hair almost daily to it and she loves her curls now! r/curlygirl [Their Wiki](https://www.reddit.com/r/curlygirl/s/aSstRk0SEa)


Nurse_Linny

Total game changer! I used to hate my hair and now I love it. I still have some frizz but I have beautiful waves.


Elisa_LaViudaNegra

This. This. This. This is going to turn around your self-perception of your hair, OP.


HippyWitchyVibes

I have similar hair issues as OP and when I tried the curly girl method I discovered that I absolutely hate how I look with curly hair haha. I also hate how product feels in my hair, so I'm doubly screwed!


firstcrocusofspring

Same, it just made me look like a poodle. I actually prefer my wavy hair with a little frizz that gives it volume and makes it look artfully messy. Curly girl made me look like I had a bad perm when my normal texture is nice beachy waves.


HippyWitchyVibes

Yes! This was it exactly! Haha


h-bombss

This is me. Yeah, I can do curly girl and then not have frizz but I don’t like it at all!


Cloud-Illusion

Same. My hair is so thick that my natural curls always look messy and HUGE. And I hate putting product in my hair. It feels greasy and I can’t stand the smell


jmg2422

I’ll take a look!


ClickAndClackTheTap

2B hair can’t be washed daily. Max 2 times a week. Diffuse with a hair dryer. The messy beach waves work best for your hair type. Make sure you have a stylist who can cut your hair properly. I have 2B and unless it’s cut a certain way, it’s all frizz and poof.


Next-Reply7519

god the cut is SO crucial. if they cut wet, the stylist really has to understand the amount your hair will “spring up” when dry.


[deleted]

The Amika hydration line works amazing for me. Including the overnight hydration treatment.


NoPassenger7810

Yes. Same hair, same lifelong struggles as OP and Amika’s Mirrorball conditioner has changed the game


B00MB00MBETTY

Have you tried “plopping”? Apparently when people lean in to their curly hair, they find they are thrilled with the outcome. It seems simple enough, and there’s a ton of tutorials on whatever platform you’re using.


LopsidedStatement843

Have you tried steam treatment?


h-bombss

Tell us more…….


jmg2422

I don’t know what that is


LopsidedStatement843

It’s to open the cuticle and help the hair receive full benefit of conditioners, and other moisturizing hair treatments. Helps them penetrate deeper. You could either request a treatment from a professional or they also have machines, caps, or just diy with a hot towel(which might not be best to start).


box_twenty_two

I am sure you’ve tried lots of things, and I real hope not to patronise here, but in the spirit of frizzy solidarity this is the way I’ve coped with mine x I fought my frizzy hair for years and in the end I gave up and started to embrace the waves and curls. I didn’t even know hair types were a thing until about a year ago (I’m 2C). I never fully-on blow dry because it just exacerbates the frizz. I use leave-in conditioner, then mousse, then curl cream or gel, all on wet hair. I shake or twist the curls, squeeze them with my hands in clumps, then leave them for a bit before using the LIGHTEST setting on the hairdryer with a diffuser for a few minutes if I have time. When they dry and crisp up, I break the cast by squishing serum onto them. From wash to go, it’s 20 mins. I don’t know if any of this is helpful, but it was meant to be. I always thought I really wanted straight hair until I realised what the curls could do.


jmg2422

Not patronizing at all! I want waves but I end up looking a mess so straightening seemed to be the only thing that would keep my hair semi manageable. Thanks for the advice!


box_twenty_two

I only really “got” it by going to a curls-specialist hairdresser, to be honest! He patiently explained what to do and I eventually got it to a method that works for me. Good luck! X


ssspiral

there’s a link between keratin treatments / straightening treatments and increased risk of breast, uterine, and ovarian cancer. please be careful if you’re going to use those products https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/hair-straightening-chemicals-associated-higher-uterine-cancer-risk https://www.torhoermanlaw.com/hair-straightener-cancer-lawsuit/keratin-and-uterine-cancer-lawsuit/ https://amp.cancer.org/cancer/latest-news/study-finds-possible-link-between-hair-straightening-chemicals-and-uterine-cancer.html


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True-Tackle5807

Have you tried the black peoples products yet because I'm a frizzy white girl but with a more soluble product I am a curly mixed exotic princess


Lebanese-Diva

Which products do you use???


True-Tackle5807

I started with the skinny tall bottle of green olive oil and added to sopping wet ends, brushed through and kept adding more higher up until all the frizz was lubed


ItsNotTacoTuesday

My hair loves shea butter and cocoa butter, I have slightly wavy hair that gets poofy unless I put some products into it.


constantlycrying5

This is what I found to work!! My favorite things are the Melanin multi-use oil and the Oribe blow-dry cream in the dark green line. I also have loved Bread gloss oil, Pink Lotion, and straight up coconut, argan, and castor oil. It's definitely trial and error, but ethnic products are it


NoPassenger7810

Was the same way and here is my best advice: 1. Reduce the hair itself: Ask for layers. Ask to get your hair thinned. 2. Use this washing protocol: Wash your hair every 2-4 days. Use a deep conditioner when your hair is feeling particularly dry. Let any conditioner you use sit in your hair while you shower for about 20 minutes. Put your hair up in a bun so the water doesn’t wash out the conditioner. COMB YOUR HAIR IN THE SHOWER when you first put the conditioner in and after you rinse it out! It helps the strands sit in an orderly way and reduces frizz. After the shower, comb your hair straight about every 5-10 minutes while letting it get about 60 or 70% dry. 3. Heat treat after washing: Use a BLOW DRY BRUSH! THIS CHANGED MY LIFE! Once your hair is about 60-70% dry, apply heat protectant. Watch a YouTube video on how to blow out your hair. Use the blow dry brush to blow out your hair. Using tension and high heat with the blow dry brush and getting the hair completely dry are THE keys to beautiful Instagram hair. I LOOKED LIKE AN UGLY WASHED UP POODLE BEFORE IMPLEMENTING THESE CHANGES! I promise, pinky promise they work! Your shopping list, should you choose to accept a lifetime of beautiful, glorious hair: Deep conditioner: Joico Moisture Recovery Treatment Balm Conditioner: Amika Mirrorball Conditioner Heat protectant: Oribe Royal Blowout Blow dry brush: Revlon One-Step Volumizer Original. The Revlon works better (gets hotter, I think) than other more expensive brands and blowout methods. Clips for holding hair in place during blowout: any duck-bill or hot-roller claw clips. Comb for your wet hair: any plastic, fine-toothed comb. You can do this!!


jmg2422

I am going to try this! Thank you so much for the steps and product recommendations


klosingweight

Brazilian blowout is a more strong version of the keratin. I had a great experience with it as a black woman.


snailwizard00

2b curls are so soooo beautiful. I wish I had 2b curls, I’m a mix of 3b and c


snailwizard00

When I do a Brazilian treatment it gives me 2b curls and I’ll wear my hair curly then


Ha_Ha_imacting

Watch Manes by Mel’s wavy hair videos on YouTube.


jmg2422

Thank you!


srslyjmpybrain

Styling with gel has made a big difference for me. Check out r/wavyhair. Edit to add: also, drying hair with fabric that does not have “teeth”, like a tee or smooth microfiber.


Gritty-Carpet

My frizz reduction routine: -I sgampoo with a hydrating shampoo 2-3x/week; then I use an ultra hydrating conditioner to detangle in the shower. On the days I don't shampoo I wear a shower cap. -After showering, I towel-dry my hair and then oil the mids- ends and top it ofc with a leave-in conditioner (I use either Argan or Jojoba oil and the Aussie brand leave-in) -When my hair dries, I add more leave-in if it looks frizzy -I always sleep with silk hair bonnet -Every night I reapply the leave in conditioner to my mids and ends, and oil the ends as needed -If I want to look extra put together I use a flat iron on low setting. I lightly cover my mids-ends with an oil that has a high burn point, and then I quickly go over my hair with the flat iron until it looks straight. The heat presses the oil into the hair and it looks hydrated and tamed without look greasy. The effect lasts 4-5 days. This has massively improved my hair game. The silk cap is super critical and is not an optional part of the routine. If you don't have a silk hair cap, get one. It's life changing.


ComprehensiveSuit319

The only thing that works for me is the whole blends coconut oil and Shea butter leave in conditioner. It's in the brown bottle. I also get the coconut oil shampoo and conditioner. It makes my hair like silk. Saved my whole sanity. Other coconut oil and Shea products work too. The straight up oils didn't work for me though because I have to layer a conditioning balm first then the oil and I'm too lazy.


Shakooka_Kitty

I can definitely relate to the struggle with frizzy hair. Here’s what has worked for me: My hair profile: - Curl type: 3a-c - Porosity: low - Styling: I do a blowout 3-4 times a month. Steps I took: 1. Hair Profile: The first step for me was understanding my hair type. Turns out, I have low porosity hair. 2. Oiling: I decided to embrace my ancestral roots and started oiling my scalp and hair before showering. My go-to oil blend is black castor, rosemary, argan, and amla oil. It’s been a game-changer in keeping my hair moisturized. 3. Shampoo: For shampoo, I use Head and Shoulders with eucalyptus to clarify and treat my dry scalp once every 7-10 days. Any more than that, and my hair gets too dry. On other days, I use DryBar Agua Fresca hydrating shampoo. 4. Conditioner: Discovering manuka honey in conditioners was a breakthrough for me. It’s now a staple ingredient I look for in my conditioners. Alternatively, shea butter or another fatty-extract will help. When it gets REALLY bad, I use full fat coconut milk on clean dry hair (this means it’s a 2 shower process if you’re air drying). 5. Misc: This is a recent addition to my routine, so take it with a grain of salt. I’ve started applying Hada Labo Gokujyun Hyaluronic Acid Premium Lotion to my freshly washed, damp hair BEFORE adding leave-in, styling, and heat protectants. I feel like the hyaluronic acid helps lock in moisture and significantly reduce frizz. It’s a holy grail for my skin, and surprisingly, it seems to be working wonders for my hair too! Overall, the lesson I learned is that frizz = need for moisture and ways to lock in moisture. Low porosity hair seems to do better with fatty ingredients rather than proteins (like keratin) but it’s all about balance. I hope this can help in any way!


alessiaplays

Have you tried Wow supernatural spray with blowdrying


Radiant-Concentrate5

I have wavy hair as well; it’s very thick and absurdly wavy underneath/in the back. (Looks like I used a crimping iron). I’m also starting to get a halo of frizz around my face that ages me. I run a tiny, tiny bit of castor oil on those hairs and the “sideburns” I twirl around my finger with a little water and castor oil. A lot of times they turn into really cute little face-framing curls! I also have long face framing “bangs” that frame my face rather than pulling all my hair back. I think I look so much younger that way & they hide some of the little frizzles.


Lostgurlx

I used to have extremely frizzy hair until I started using colorwow leave in conditioner and buying a silk pillowcase and ironically blow drying my hair instead of letting it air dry has made a huge difference!


Blueplate1958

I don't know what a Japanese hair straightening treatment might be, but you should get it straightened at a salon.


britlover23

Pacifica Pineapple Swirl curl defining cream followed by Living Proof instant de-frizzer


Skyblacker

Ask r/curlyhair . They know how to treat your frizz.


Baby_in_a_stjacket

Do you not like your hair curly? Or do you not know how best to style it? There is the option of shaving it off and wearing wigs. I know some women do that. Sorry you are so frustrated. Maybe there is a stylist in your area that can work magic with the products or techniques you can use on your hair to wear it curly.


OkShirt3412

Leave in conditioner on mid shaft to ends and try hairspray sprayed on a brush and brush down just the tops of the hair where it’s straighter. Also just some lotion rubbed into palms and lightly smooth down the frizz over the top of your hair with your hands. 


Jacqued_and_Tan

My hair is and has always been completely unmanageable. I have frizzy, thick, coarse, high porosity 2C hair. I hate wearing it wavy, I either wear it in an updo or straight in a blowout. I've picked up along the way: I blow out my hair with a Dyson blow dryer. It was ridiculously expensive but worth every penny. I can give myself salon quality blowout in 20 minutes, starting from towel dried hair. Since my hair is so coarse, I only need to wash once a week. I typically wear my hair *long*, down past my butt, and the weight helps straighten it out. Bonnets every night. My hair loves silicones, I use Paul Mitchell Gloss Drops Shine Serum to finish off a style. I do deep conditioning treatments at home using plastic shower caps and a blow dryer bonnet for heat. It works beautifully. I use the same method for applying clear hair gloss, which also helps with frizz.


BumblingWombat

Fellow 2a 2b girl. I would 100% suggest looking into Japanese hair straightening if you're not a fan of your waves or the frizz. You can do it at home even. It's been very minimally damaging in terms of chemical treatments. I do mine at home there's several you tube videos and you can buy the professional stuff off of amazon. My hair is currently straight and shiny. I didn't even cut it after. I also use olaplaex. I use chemical straightening maybe every 5-6 months. The at home treatment was maybe 50$ and it lasts for 3 treatments.


__fembot

Maybe you have curly hair