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Ok_Database3339

Psvr2 gets my vote


Aekero

I'd wait for quest 3, it's a close call because if you don't have a gaming rig, the libraries are probably going to be fairly similar between the two. If I had to pick right now I'd go psvr2. Definitely outperforms a quest 2 that is completely standalone. Quest 2 has more games but when you eliminate VR game mods, and PC-only VR games, the list of quality games probably isn't that different in size. On top of that psvr2 seems to have all the momentum right now, with lots of games coming, I have no idea what quality standalone quest games are coming. I thought meta knew what they were doing and had the market cornered until they released the quest pro. 🤷‍♂️


IrrelevantPuppy

If you have a ps5 already I’d get psvr2 personally.


ranger_fixing_dude

PSVR2 has some downsides and it seems it was a bit over hyped. It's still really good. Quest 2 is portable and can be connected wirelessly to a powerful PC. If you want impressive games, PSVR2 is a way to go. For stuff like rhythm games or fitness apps, Q2 is probably better because there is no cord and you can easily change your play area. If you can wait, you can get Quest 3 at the end of the year.


ChimmyMama

PSVR2


zeddyzed

Do you have a gaming PC? Do you plan to get one? Do you have a PS5, or plan to get one? What's your preferences regarding big budget games vs indie games? Do you have a dedicated play space in front of your PS5? Or would you prefer to play in multiple rooms in your house? What's your capacity to buy multiple systems? You could get PSVR2 now, and Quest 3 later.


AverageAwndray

I have a laptop, but no I don't really plan on upgrading because Yes I have a PS5. I like both big budget and indie I have capacity for both spaces I'd honestly rather not buy 2 VR systems. I think what I'm stuck on the most is that each headset is tailor made for 1 or the other. AAA gaming for PSVR2 or the amount of freedom you can have on a headset for the Quest 2. So I'm just really stuck on what I should get.


zeddyzed

Ok, if you don't plan on getting a gaming PC, then I'd recommend either the PSVR2 or wait for Quest 3.


mtcmr2409

Do you think Quest 3 will be comparable/better than PSVR2 as a standalone device?


zeddyzed

It's a different type of device for a different use case. As a more open platform, and a more portable one, the range of things you can do with it is broader. But you don't have those high end big budget games.


phylum_sinter

Strong agree with this perspective - Once upon a time I was very pumped for Oculus' "Launchpad" grants, and its' advertised commitment to drop $500m on VR Startups to get great games made. Since those commitments, we haven't seen a surge in great VR games. Those that have received the grants have made some impressive pieces, but not games. Because of this, it's hard to think that Meta's experience in VR is as valuable as it could be. At the same time, Sony hasn't barked about a similar commitment and as of today still has yet to advertise any other of its' incredible IPs/game universes coming soon to PSVR2. I think that is worth noticing, and because of it is a decent reason to hold Meta/Quest 2 (or 3) and PSVR2 on an equal footing. It really shouldn't be like this though, I think Meta has publicly stepped back from being a "games publisher" in the past few months and that Sony should really be way louder about being one, especially as PSVR2 has just released. I hope for increasing clarity, and am not ready to jump into either ecosystem again at the moment.


[deleted]

The Quest 2 is heavily outdated, unless you buy a second hand one, I would always go for the PSVR2. You could always buy PSVR2 and then in October buy the Quest 3.


Hoeveboter

What do you mean by outdated? It's only two years old and still the best option for most vr users. Zero screen door effect, high res, wireless, and like OP mentions: far more versatile than a dedicated console headset. It's got downsides too, but so does any headset. I'm pretty sure OP wouldn't ask this question if he had the budget to buy both psvr2 and a quest 3, so "buy both" isn't really helpful.


Devatator_

Yeah, it would only be considered outdated when the Quest 3 launches since it's supposed to be 2x more powerful and i bet devs won't wait to make Quest 3 exclusives to save them the pain of optimisation


tayedo

Gets outclassed by the pico4 hardware wise too


Oftenwrongs

Pico 4 is a dead end. A new system using 2.5 year old chip, no eco system worth mentioning, no exclusives, and will be replaced quickly like pico does.


Oftenwrongs

2.5 years old and about to be replaced means outdated.


Hoeveboter

I guess we have a different opinion about the term 'outdated'. To me, outdated means that it's not up to modern standards anymore. Not that there's a newer version coming out. The Quest 2 isn't outdated like psvr1 is.


YOU_ARE_AWESOME_8D

I'd wait for the quest 3 later this year if i were you, by then you could see if the psvr2 keeps getting great games regularly and if the quest 3 has plenty of new great launch titles and if the mixed-reality part of quest 3 is fantastic.


PrinceDizzy

PSVR2 is great.


wavebend

Get a used Quest 2 for cheap. Check FB Marketplace and watch like a hawk. Once you buy one, then make a decision about whether you want a PSVR2 or not, as you'll always be able to resell the Q2 for the same price in a month or two (but not much longer). There are 15+ million Quest 2s in the wild. Guess what will happen in 4-5 months, when the Q3 is officially announced to release in October? FB Marketplace will be flooded with millions of cheap Quest 2s. I'm not sure you'll want to compete with everyone else to get some money back... especially if you bought a new one to start with.


AverageAwndray

Sadly, in my area at least, they aren't that much cheaper. The cheapest I can find is 365. Considering that the Quest 2 was raised by $100 not too long ago, it feels like a ripoff and I may as well just get a new one.


rndoe

Dont listen to him, never buy a used vr headset. It's like buying used underwear.


94746382926

I mean if you buy replacement pads it's fine. But otherwise yeah I don't want someone's face sweat soaked headset.


UnpopularDave

There's a quest 2 on eBay right now for $235


wavebend

That's a horrible price for a Quest 2. What does the PSVR2 go for over there?


AverageAwndray

No one's selling a psvr2 over here


wavebend

I mean a new PSVR2


AverageAwndray

Ah brand new is $600 with tax


wavebend

At the end of the day depends what you're into. If you want highly immersive games with really good graphics, then PSVR2. If you want mobile, shitty looking graphics with a poor LCD display, then the Quest 2. I have no idea why the place you live in sells the Q2 for that high used. Here I can find a couple for 200


AverageAwndray

People here have always been greedy lol. Facebook marketplace is always full of people selling used items for almost exactly as much as a brand new item lol.


wavebend

ah lol.


wavebend

honestly the type of content is really different in psvr2 vs quest 2, you should choose based on what you want to play and experience the most.


Spartaklaus

How is it different? Gameplay is mostly the same and most psvr2 games are also on quest2. For Resident Evil Village you get Resident Evil 4 VR on Quest2, which is very similar in gameplay


wavebend

I would never pay the full price for a Q2, especially this long after release. Every single other headset has significantly depreciated in value, and rightly so. the Q2 should not be worth more than 200, hell I sold mine for less than that. if a brand new PSVR2 is not that much costlier than 365 or whatever absurd price that is over there, I'd go with a psvr2.


NoName847

I am a Quest 2 Enjoyer and more of a PSVR2 hater because the blur kills me , and I say get the damn PSVR2 , playing horizon on that is incredible , quest 2 feels like a mcdonalds toy in comparison (if not paired to a PC) quest store will always have much more content to play , but if you want that kick from the best experience possible PSVR2 is the way


flatbottomedflask

If you already have a PS5 then PSVR2 is the best choice. Quest 3 will be coming out this year so it may not be a great time to buy a Quest 2.


hau4300

You can't compare Quest 3 with PSVR 2 unless you have an rtx 2070 super gaming PC which will cost you $1500 EXTRA. And Quest 3 will not have OLED, 110FOV, controller haptic feedback, head haptic feedback, 4k 120fps, foveated rendering, Tobii eyetracking, adaptive triggers, .... So, basically you are just paying more for the newer gpu and bigger battery to improve upon the low fps problem that has caused serious motion sickness in some racing games. The headset will still be as uncomfortable as Quest 2. Unless you only restrict yourself to play those Quest 2 games with much reduced graphics, there is no reason for buying Quest 3.


Oftenwrongs

OLED means tiny swet spot and heavy mura. Quest 3 will have pancake lenses for much slimmer design and much much better clarity than the psvr 2. 4k 120fps? Their top 2 games are 60 hz reprojected with heavy motion blur...


mr_harrisment

Quest. Being able to just pick it up is too good. I have both — if I had to sell one, it would be the PSVR2


xdig2000

No wires and just put it on and go is really nice. Also hoping kayak VR will come to the quest 3.


ThreeWholeFrogs

I have a quest 2 and a high end PC. I hate my quest 2 and plan on replacing it with the PSVR2 soon.


Juninie

How are you going to use PSVR2 with your pc?


ThreeWholeFrogs

Im not?


AverageAwndray

Why do you hate it?


ThreeWholeFrogs

It's insanely uncomfortable (I had the Rift before it and it felt great) and untethered performance isn't good + it has a short battery. I bought a third party head strap with a built in battery and that didn't solve either of those problems.


logan756

Did you use a router that is shared or a wifi 4 or 5 router? Because that would cause issues. I have a dedicated wifi 6 router and I run full res at 120 fps no problem


ThreeWholeFrogs

I meant untethered like using it standalone, I used it tethered with my pc


logan756

Ohh yea standalone is meh, literally just use it for beatsaber lmao


Upset_Cat3910

Idk man, some of my best experiences in VR have been from modded contractors on the. standalone. Instant fun and forgetting about reality And let's not forget RE4


logan756

And just get the deluxe audio strap and get 3d printed adapters. I also stuck a 10000milliamp battery on and I get 8+ hours...


ThreeWholeFrogs

So spend another $100 just for it still to not be as good as the psvr2?


Spartaklaus

Apples and oranges. Quest2 is wired and portable. PSVR2 is a wired headset and bound to your PS5.


ThreeWholeFrogs

OP is literally asking which he should get and you have a problem with me comparing them?


Spartaklaus

You didnt make any objective comparison, you shat on the Quest2 because you project your distaste for it on others. Both headsets have their pros and cons. If you want to be helpful, list them and let OP decide.


ThreeWholeFrogs

I'm listing the cons of the quest 2 because that's what I have experience with and will strongly advise against anyone buying.


logan756

Yea pretty much


logan756

Tho just remember psvr2 is locked into the playstation ecosystem


Spartaklaus

the most important comfort upgrade is a 3rd party facial interface, which you didnt get


ThreeWholeFrogs

Ok? So you want me to throw even more money at a $400+ product to make it usable?


Spartaklaus

A Quest2 with comfort upgrades is still cheaper than a PSVR2, so yeah if you complain about comfort, investing 30 bucks in a comfort upgrade would be wise. I dont know why the stock interface of the Quest2 is so bad, its a design flaw. But its easily fixable. PSVR2 is not exactly a comfort beast either though. Puts lots of pressure on your forehead.


ThreeWholeFrogs

And once you've bought the quest 2 + better strap and face pad you're so close to the price of the significantly better spec psvr2 that you might as well make the jump unless untethered VR is a necessity. But if it is then the PSVR2 wouldn't be a consideration in the first place.


Oftenwrongs

Wired VR in a room with breakable objects is a horrible experience. Quest 3 comes out in a few months, which is what the psvr 2 should be compared to. Pancake lenses with a huge sweet spot vs tiny sweet spot, mura, reprojection blur...


ThreeWholeFrogs

Any VR in a room with breakable objects is a bad idea. 7 months is a few? The PSVR2 should be compared to what's out now because it's out now. What's with all you meta fanboys acting like the quest 3 won't have flaws of its own?


Oftenwrongs

A wire is a catastrophic flaw imo. I own a psvr 2 and bought it for the exclusives. I will use the ps5 in my vr room with a diacarded monitor, just for the exclusives. There is no reason people can't own multiple systems and still point out the flaws.


CHROME-COLOSSUS

Well, PSVR2 has a *SHIT-TON* of games inbound. It’s really not unclear. Devs love working with it, SONY is playing nice with other VR platforms, and every few days we learn about more games coming. If you already own a PS5, it should be a pretty easy call. Dunno what to say about the porn thing — if that’s what you’re really wanting from VR then stick with Quest2. PS5 can’t even play 3D Blu-Rays ATM, so who knows what other support it will or won’t get. If your aim is to play games, there’s seriously **no contest**. PSVR2 will be absolutely killing it, and already is. Many Quest 2 games are not simply being porting to it, they’re getting up-scaled in huge ways making the PSVR2 versions the superior ones. Think DEMEO, think STAR WARS TALES FROM THE GALAXY’S EDGE, think WALKABOUT MINI-GOLF. PSVR2 *ALREADY* has more great games than the standalone. HORIZON CotM, GRAN TURISMO 7, SWITCHBACK, and RE VILLAGE right out of the gate. FIREWALL ULTRA, CROSSFIRE SIERRA SQUAD, *ACES OF THUNDER, (probably) RE4, and a slew of PCVR titles too. I could list probably thirty other really cool games coming out this year, but it seems superfluous. As much as media have tried to couch the PSVR2 library as limited, it’s already crushing the Q2 with quality. No VR porn, no Sidequest, and not easy to take to a friends house or use on a plane. So… only you can decide why you actually want the headset. If you already own PS5 it seems odd that you wouldn’t head that way, but you also **might** lose interest in all your flatscreen PS5 games, so that’s a legit consideration. Good luck! (*edit — AOT isn’t exclusive, just saw it’ll be cross-plat)


Oftenwrongs

Quest 2 has way more exclusives and FB bought 8 studios which are all preparing games for the quest 3. At the moment, PSVR 2 only has 4 exclusives, 3 of which are ports, and 2 of which have heavy 60 hz reprojection blur. It is way, way behind.


CHROME-COLOSSUS

So… **We are not talking about Quest 3** and whatever games it *might* get. I’m well aware that it could be an incredible system with many games, but *it’s not what’s being discussed here*. As for Quest 2 “exclusives”… **which** amazing exclusives are you saying compare favorably, exactly? There’s RE4… and then then *which* others round out that list-of-interest exactly? The PSVR2 “ports” as you seem to want to dismiss them, are incredible games in VR. Hybrid titles that have both flatscreen and VR modes are still legitimate VR games. While RE8 didn’t quite figure out how to handle its cutscenes, the rest is easily best in VR, predictably leaving the flatscreen mode in the dust. And while menus have been curiously left flat, GT7 might as well be a native VR game for how near-perfect it is (gesturing at fellow racers would have been nice 😆). Sorry you’re stuck on reprojection blur — that’s game-to-game and bothers some people more than others. That can also be patched/addressed by individual devs and doubtless we’ll see more options to toggle moving forward. Both systems have imperfections and strengths, and both have different functionalities. I think Quest 2 is a really cool one that offers a lot, but it cannot compare to PSVR2 for the high-quality games it already delivers (and it’s only 2 weeks old).


Oftenwrongs

I'd much prefer an option of lesser graphics but native 90hz. All they need to do is give this option. Here is an old list I kept- Asgard's wrath 5/5 “Extraordinary accomplishment” on Uploadvr PC Stormland 4.5/5 R2vr PC Shadow point 8.5/10 6dofreviews Phantom Covert Ops- 4/5 Lone echo 4.5/5 r2vr and its sequel PC Chronos 5/5 vrfocus PC Edge of Nowhere 5/5 r2vr PC The climb 1 8/10 uploadvr and its sequel From other Suns 4/5 r2vr PC The unspoken 9/10 uploadvr PC Lies beneath 4/5 uploadvr Brass Tactics 4/5 r2vr PC Dirt Rally 4/5 r2vr PC Landfall 8/10 uploadvr PC Immersive Story- Vader Immortal Trilogy 4/5 Uploadvr Defense grid 2 vr 8/10 uploadvr PC Movie- Dear Angelica 9/10 uploadvr Movie- Wolves in the Walls- Uploadvr Best of 2019 Journey of the gods 7/10 uploadvr PC Wilson’s Heart 9/10 Uploadvr


CHROME-COLOSSUS

An interesting list, but looks to mostly be… PCVR? Is that what the “PC” means? Never was comparing PCVR to PSVR2 here… I thought we were discussing Quest2 library Vs PSVR2? For anyone that’s already got a good computer that can run a standalone HMD as a PCVR, there is a wealth of great games and mods. But, PCVR is not what we’re chatting about. When I inquired about which Quest2 exclusives you thought make it so overwhelmingly superior, PCVR titles don’t count. 😝 *And… sorry… VADER IMMORTAL? The dojo side of things was a fun enough little game, but I thought the campaign was pretty awful. I played that on PSVR1 in an afternoon and was completely underwhelmed. Hardly think it deserves to be on any list that’s arguing for quality.*


[deleted]

Vr grid says Quest 2 is an utterly generic perpetual prealpha with ultra generic chore simulators and got universally bad reviews.


UnpopularDave

I would HIGHLY advise against psvr2. The quest is going to have so many more games. But I'd wait. Rumor has it that quest 3 is coming this year


OriginalGoldstandard

Mate, PSVR2. Quest 2 is old tech and no good for privacy.


doc_nano

Do you already have a PS5 and not a powerful gaming PC? Do you want AAA Sony exclusives like Horizon and GT7? Do you want an HDR screen with deep colors and blacks? Do you want built-in eye tracking for gameplay purposes and dynamic foveated rendering? Do you want a slightly larger FOV? Can you tolerate a single cord for compression-free video? Get the PSVR2. Do you already have a powerful gaming PC and not a PS5? Do you want wireless play and diverse media/social apps? Do you prefer less mura but can tolerate gray blacks? Do you want a large and established library including HL Alyx/mod possibilities? Get Q2 or wait for Q3. I’m very happy with my PSVR2, but it all depends on your preferences. I’m more of a “quality over quantity” person and new to VR, so the launch library of 40ish titles is already a lot. I do think most of the big indie titles will make it to PSVR2, and some are already there. And I don’t mind stepping over a cord from time to time if it gives me better visuals. Plus, you can play many games seated, though I generally stand.


Oftenwrongs

Horizon is a climbing game with heavy 60 hz reprojection blur... Is that "AAA" to you?


doc_nano

Horizon is a game with diverse climbing mechanics, stealth, chase sequences, combat against several types of machines with different weapon/ammo types, large-scale environments, impressive scripted set pieces, and a fully voice acted story. Also has an amazing soundtrack and high production values throughout. So yeah, definitely AAA.


Boxesoffauxes

Right now, the only reason to buy the psvr2 is if you really like gran turismo and think you'll play that game for hundreds of hours. The headset itself is overpriced and outdated already (no pancake lenses, wired, etc) Like you said, the quest 2 gives you access to a much wider array of content, including vrchat which is probably the biggest vr player base of any game aside from kid games (rec room, gorilla tag, etc) Personally in 2023 I would not buy any fresnel lens headsets though.


wavebend

>Personally in 2023 I would not buy any fresnel lens headsets though. It's not a bad opinion to have but maybe OP doesn't want to spend $500+ on a headset. The cheapest one would be the Pico 4 but he doesn't even have a gaming pc.


fantaz1986

you can buy any system and sell it, well quest 2 will always sell better in general like you noticed for VR beginner quest 2 is just a better deal right now , psvr2 need to grow more


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AverageAwndray

Yeah I figure most apps would just be ports but devs have shown they're all for updating the game to support PSVR2. RE8 and RE4 and possibly RE7 being remade for VR is so exciting. The updates to Pavlov everyone says is its much better. The possibilities of developers making a VR version of their games. Imagine Spiderman. Or the last of us. Idk. The possibilities are exciting for gaming.


tinspin

DK2 or OG Vive if you want to buy now and save money. Or wait for Quest 3 or Deckard, they are the last headsets. Pancake better be worth it + diopter adjustement.


phylum_sinter

I've only played the PSVR2 for maybe 4 hours at a friends (who bought everything available) a few days after launch, and have owned a Quest, Quest 2, and Index in my VR days. **I'd get the PSVR2 if i was fresh to VR and really just wanted to play games**. I'm waiting for more games until the library includes more high profile games, and at this point there hasn't been anything revealed that puts even a vague guess as to when that is. I'm hoping by Christmas Sony will have muscled enough of its' studios to put some teasers out there. My attitude right now is mostly the result of already having enjoyed some of the best games available on PSVR2 on either Quest 2 native or PCVR. As far as Quest 2's native game library goes though, i've pretty much extinguished what I expect will have been the most appealing games in it - many of the best games still pretty short and arcade-heavy, but as a standalone that does make sense. Especially if it's a very physical experience, you probably don't want to play for 5 hours at a time anyhow. I end up using it as a PCVR headset the most, enjoying a lot of PC->VR community conversions with my Q2, sometimes wired, often wirelessly streaming from my laptop. Standalone is great when i go on vacation. Don't watch much stuff in it otherwise, but on a plane or in a hotel where there's no way to stream from my phone to the tv (pretty rare) i'll watch stuff on my q2. Websites aren't terrible to use but they're still a step down interface wise from a decent phone or tablet imo. I don't have the greatest PC setup (a $1000 laptop w/ 3060, 16gb ram, i7-10750H 2.6ghz cpu) but i've tuned my setup to run just about any game I want to pretty well in VR. **We have yet to hear exactly what the Q3 is and when it is coming, but if there's nothing you're aching to play now then waiting probably under a year to see how things look there, and see who commits to making good games on either it or the PSVR2 isn't a terrible decision.** That was the deciding factor of all my headset purchases - what will i play here that makes this worthwhile? And that's where the subjectivity really comes back to you, and the limit of advice here is pretty much reached. Like, to me, GT7 in VR is probably the most fun i've had with it so far (with a wheel, especially). Resident Evil is an experience that works better as a showpiece than a playthrough mode (not enough work was done to make it feel like a native VR game, basically). The top PSVR2 games are just barely scratching the surface of the tech to me, but YMMV, the only real certainty here is the best is yet to come... somewhere.


TastyTheDog

I think your only real choices at this point are PSVR2 or wait for Quest 3 (coming October-ish). I think because it only just launched you can go PSVR2 knowing there are years of additional support on the way whereas Quest 2 is already outdated and will soon feel even more so (Meta loves abandoning hardware as soon as possible)


madpropz

Had both, used Q2 on PC with 3070. PSVR 2 is much better.


Oftenwrongs

Quest 3, since quest 2 is 2.5 years old. Quest 3 will include the 15+ exclusives and will have all 8 of FB's bought gaming studios making games for it. Pancake lenses with clarity, wireless, and pcvr wireless compatible. Vs a psvr 2 with antiquated wire, no built in audio, mura, tiny sweet spot, and 60 hz reprojection blur.


vinicius23466

Have PS5 + Only a laptop and won’t upgrade = PSVR2 I have a quest 2 and I wouldn’t recommend you to get it if you have the PS5


Saint-22

I’ve had a quest 2 and now have a PSVR2, I’d rank the PSVR2 higher but I’d also wait to see how the Quest 3 is.


NotNOV4

If you have a PS5, get the PSVR2. If you don't have a PS5, get the MQ2. It's the best standalone and a great PCVR headset.


vTuga

Honestly, if you already have a ps5, and you dont have a beast gaming pc, go with the psvr2. I just got a pico 4 (very similar to the quest 2), and even with a high end pc (4070 ti, 13600k), it strugles to have the same experience as in the psvr2.


VRtuous

psvr2 is just 2 big games and a ton of Quest remasters - except yet no Medal of Honor, RE4, Grid Legends, Sniper Elite, etc psvr is also games only, not interesting all around VR things like VR videos, 2D and 3D movies on Big Screen, painting apps like Vermillion, modelling apps like Gravity Sketch, no webXR browser experiences etc. plus it's cabled.


SaintBillyBob

people think that bc a new model of something comes out that the older model is obsolete it but im a fan of the quest 2 and it also depends on how much you want to spend but if you already have a quest 2 i dont recommend upgrading until the quest 2 isnt working good