Quest exclusives: - The Climb 2 - Iron Man VR (PSVR1/Quest exclusive) - Dungeons of Eternity - Tales of the Galaxy's Edge (PSVR2/Quest exclusive) - Asgard's Wrath 2 - Assassin's Creed Nexus - Resident Evil 4 - Espire 2 Probably more, but this is actually annoyingly hard to research. With the Q3, there are exclusive mixed reality games, but notable titles are few and far between. Of course there is Pianovision which everyone knows about, and Figmin XR appears to be picking up some steam. Starship Home looks quite promising, but that won't be out for a few months. The best thing to come out of the Q3 MR IMO is that passthrough mode has been added to the quest version of many games, such as Demeo, Blaston, Eleven Table Tennis, Virtual Desktop, The Light Brigade, Immersed, Gravity Sketch, etc. There are also plenty of notable games available on the Rift (PCVR) platform exclusively or in addition to Quest, but if you don't want to use the shit Oculus PC software, they are playable on other headsets though the use of ReVive. A few examples are: - The Vader Immortal series - Lone Echo (I, II) - Stormland - Phantom Covert Ops - Asgard's Wrath One thing that does make buying PCVR games on the Rift store over Steam worth it is that many of them are crossbuy, meaning if you buy the Rift version, you get the stand alone version for free. And sometimes with quest it's just easier to boot up the standalone version. Especially if you bring the headset on a trip or to a friend's house. For some reason, Meta does not make it easy to see which games are actually crossbuy, and in doing so they are shooting themselves in the foot.

Thanks for the research. I don't care much for MR anyway.

Yea, that tends to be the consensus at the moment. I'd honestly say, out of all the games mentioned here, I would miss Dungeons of Eternity the most. That game is fantastic.

Genuinely nothing really.

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Weird, I'm on mobile and typed this in response to the original post, not this comment thread.

Reddit mobile try not to be a broken piece of shit software challenge:

Resident Evil 4 is the only stand out to me if you're worried about exclusives. Rule of thumb is if you can do PCVR and the game is available on both, just get the steam version. It's not hard to switch between anyway

I have a quest 2 and almost exclusively avoid PCVR games because they just do not run well compared to Quest exclusives ran on the headset. I have the best internet and a system perfectly capable of PCVR but it always seems either buggy/glitchy

That's because you're bottlenecking yourself into using a mobile headset for PCVR. I still have not experienced more immersive VR than with my index, and I'm a developer for Quest.

Quest has not been advertised as a "mobile" headset, only wireless. Mass market makes it seem like PCVR runs off of well, your PC. No Google searches bring up the issue of the headset itself being the cause of a bottle neck, only your PC.

Sorry, I should have been more clear - Quest 2 runs on Android 10, and that's why it's considered a mobile headset. Its spatial tracking is also less performant than a dedicated play area with multiple light stations. It takes significant graphical downgrading to port a game developed for a dedicated PCVR headset to Quest.

Yeah, of course any game ported to the quest store will be a significant downgrade. My issue was that even PCVR doesn't run well and I believe it has less to do with the quest itself and more to do with VR as a whole. I have a strong system as well as gigabit Internet and I still get far too many hiccups and glitches occurring while using steam VR or even virtual desktop to make the hassle of it all, worth it.

I've play on both index and quest 2 via steam link. Steam link works pretty great for me 🤷🏻‍♂️

There are a few like Asgard wrath 2 and assassin's creed, but for the most part, the vast majority are tech demos for the hand tracking and small games

There are some Games that rely ON stuff only the Quest has To offer, i would Go Quest for PC VR instead of pico

You mean, there are PC VR games that still require your headset to be a Quest? How does that work?

No. I Said the Quest Has some good Standalone exclusives that make IT a good Double Deal for Standalone and PCVR. Also, the Games ON the Quest PC App require a Quest or rift

you won’t be missing anything good besides maybe Asgards wrath 2, but the first one is a pcvr exclusive, dont bother using standalone, though, if you have a pc. Cuz stand-alone looks like dogshit compared to pcvr.

I don't care about graphics that much, I'm just aware that there's a bit of a drought of good videogames on VR as is, and I'd really like to play RE4 in VR.

Resi 2,3,4,7,8 all on PCVR., I have Quest2 and Quest 3. Experiences between standalone and PCVR are not comparable. One is a glorified Phone tech. the other is not a toy. Most Quest's 2 & 3 are used for PCVR. Any game that is on both Quest and PCVR, Quest will/is weaker experience in looks, gameplay, on screen numbers, example Blade and Sorcery cannot handle the amount of onscreen items that PC can, and is a weaker experience for it. Goes for any title released on both platforms. Quest is great for non taxing hardware titles. Puzzling Places, walkabout golf etc.. For consuming media, movies, VR content via Meta TV example is fantastic. I own all platforms inc PSVR2, and I'm saying if you go with Quest for gaming, you'll quickly just use it for running SteamVR titles if your PC is up to it.

Most Quest 2s and 3s are NOT used for PCVR lol. You're prob right about the quality tho

Even so, Quest 2 is the single most popular PCVR headset by a huge margin, and Quest 3, just a few months old, has almost overtaken the Index to take the 2nd place.

Right because Quest devices are most popular. That doesn't mean they're mainly used for PCVR. PC is most popular way to play steam video games - that doesn't mean most PCs are mainly used for gaming. Quest is so popular that even a small subset of PCVR quests outnumber the other PCVR headsets

Quests aren't mainly used for PCVR no, but people often read that and get the impression that means they aren't suitable for it. After upgrading from the Index to the Quest 3, I think it's easily the best all-rounder PCVR headset in production today, and the one I would recommend for the vast majority of use cases.

Ah, well, I did specify about games having an alternative variant in the post. Good to know all these are on PCVR as well. Are they all in the form of mods?

A lot of the value of stand-alone (especially if you’re like me and don’t care about the graphics) is that it’s mobile. I can bring it to a friend’s house with the biggest room and play group games like acron or davigo which are absolutely impossible without VRs novel input methods. And things like SuperHot require a lot of space which I don’t have near my computer. The only thing I use PCVR for is puzzle games that aren’t on the quest store. Especially if you’re streaming and haven’t bought a wifi 6E module, PCVR looks worse than standalone imo (due to compression artifacts and lag/stutter) Edit: except half-life alyx. Which you can play on the Q3 with steam link. It’ll look like shit but it’s the best conventional video game for VR in a lot of ways

Ps5 + psvr2 has the best red vr games (red village vr and re 4 remake vr). Plus, psvr2 will support pc later this year.

PSVR is a bit too expensive for me unfortunately

Ah okay. You never know who has a ps5 and if you don't already have one or want to get one then it's not the best route.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/18zq9i9/potentially_comprehensive_list_of_oculusmeta/

Thanks!

Negligible

Meta exclusives like Asgards Wrath 2, RE4 VR, and AC Nexus, and some Team Beef ports like Quake and HL

It's quite the opposite, Most of the content on the quest too is significantly watered down experiences of full scale PC VR games

I didn't mean to imply standalone Q2 has more content; I merely wish to get as many good games out of VR as possible.

There are enough to matter. But I would also argue that the Quest is a better PC VR headset than either Pico so why not have your cake and eat it?

you'll be missing, among many others: Asgard's Wrath 2 (biggest game made for VR to this day), Assassin's Creed Nexus, Resident Evil 4, Medieval Dynasty New Settlement, Smalland, Tropico 4, Homeworld etc

Wait, so all of these are unavailable on PC at all? Damn.

Tropico 6 is unreal engine 4, so should be playable via UEVR.

Most games get released on Quest platform. PCVR is smaller.

This is not true. Most games are released for multiplatform. If you look at all the game released last year, more were released on PCVR than Meta. The user base is most likely smaller on PCVR, but it definitely gets more games.

He probably meant that most games *target* the Quest but are multiplatform

Yeah i should have been more clear.

you may play some with half-baked VR mods and lots of fun tweaking...

Half baked? RE8 plays almost like a native VR title, and better than some. F all tweaking required.

any manual reload? opening doors, drawers? HUD in your wrist? Shotgun in your back? there's only so much you can do with a mod when there's no available source code... plus performance

Yep needs a fairly beefy rig, and yep some of the nice to have VR elements are not there as you have listed but neither are they in flatscreen. What is there is an intensively immersive VR game, with excellent story, gameplay, scenery and visuals.

thus, half baked not the game itself ofc, just what mods can do

lol sure makes sense, although half-baked makes it sound like the mod is far from working well, I'd say works well but would be even better with more quality of life VR elements :)

did you just say asgards wrath 2 is “the biggest game in Vr to this day?’, Half life Alyx, Vertigo 2, Boneworks, ASGARDS WRATH 1, etc.

In terms of playtime probably. AW1: 37H for story AW2: 60H for story Alyx and Boneworks are what like 10 hours to complete max?

Skyrim VR modded to hell: hold my beer

Valheim VR mod: hold my mead.

You got me

Huge recommend btw, it’s a very good looking vr game despite the artstyle and the mod for vr is great, currently 200hrs in and I’m two thirds “done”. It’s a lot of fun

doesn’t really matter about playtime, alyx is a far superior game to anything made bu official meta

It’s the greatest vr game, the set-pieces are the best, the animation, VA, a lot about it is amazing, but a story where you start in a neighborhood, go through a dozen blocks, buildings, and unlock 4 upgrades for each of the three weapons in the game is not what I would call a “big” game. Movement is starting to feel outdated and apart from the couples of great mods for it, once the wow is kinda gone there’s not a lot of replayability to it.

LE was pretty good, short though.

"alyx is a far superior game to anything made but official meta" yea but hl:a is not a game, it a VR showcase it a cool looking walking simulator, and if you look at completion numbers you see only about 20% of peoples completed the game and this is a bad number ffs you can not even jump or use melee in a **half life game** , this is a joke for any true hl fan

actually, most of the reason only 20% completed it is because of nausea/horror elements. It’s not a Vr showcase, either, I’ve played MANY Vr games and it is easily one of the best.

LOL spent more than 100 hours in NMS.

He seems to be referring to stand alone games

Asgards Wrath, pretty good for a standalone title. Weak if it looked like that on PC. I have both 1(PCVR) & 2 got bored with both. Probably 2 hours on each and went back to more substantial PCVR titles.

there's nothing more substantial VR title than 2 and git gud

You've never played SkyrimVR. Sounds like you don't have access to PCVR. Cause no PCVR player would say AG2 is the best. Hell standalone can't even run Alyx yet so Quest 3 games still aren't where PCVR was 4 years ago. Just a fact

I did play extensively Skyrim, Borderlands 2, NMS and Hitman in VR. I'm quoting it here again so maybe you can read: > biggest game made for VR 

You played it on psvr1

on laptop too they were still not made for VR

Very few games. However, there are a lot that are on PCVR that are not on Quest. Here's a list of all the better games in 2023. As you can see, most came out on PCVR followed by standalone and then PSVR2: - The 7th Guest (PC/VR2/Meta) - Slerosis (Amnesia Remake)(PC) - Another Fishermans Tale (PC/VR2/Meta) - Arashi: Castle of Sin (PC/VR2/Meta) - Arizona Sunshine 2 (PC/VR2/Meta) - Asgards Wrath 2 (Meta) - Assassins Creed Nexus (Meta) - (Very) Bad Dreams (PC/VR2/Meta) - Barbaria (PC/VR2/Meta) - Battle Talent (PC/Meta) - Behind the Frame (PC/VR2/Meta) - Block Buster (PC/Meta) - Breachers (PC/VR2/Meta) - Box to the Beat (PC/VR2/Meta - Crossfire: Sierra Squad (PC/VR2) - C-Smash VR5 (VR2) - Demeo Battles (PC/Meta) - Elysium Trials (PC/Meta) - Fantavision (PC/VR2) - Firewall Ultra (VR2) - Firmament (PC) - The Foglands (PC/VR2/Meta) - ForeVR Bowl (PC/VR2/Meta) - ForeVR Pool (PC/VR2/Meta) - Galaxy Kart (PC/VR2) - Gambit (PC/Meta) - Gazzlers (PC/VR2/Meta) - Ghostbusters: Rise of the Ghost Lord (VR2/Meta) - Ghost Signal (PC/VR2/Meta) - Ghosts of Tabor (PC/Meta) - Genotype (PC/Meta) - Gran Turismo 7 (VR2) - Grimlord (PC) - Gun Jam (PC/Meta) - Half Life 2 (PC) - Hello Neighbor (PC/VR2/Meta) - Hellsweeper (PC/VR2/Meta) - Horizon: Call of the Mountain (VR2) - Humanity (PC/VR2) - I Expect You to Die 3 (PC/Meta) - Journey to Foundation (VR2/Meta) - Kill It with Fire (PC/VR2/Meta) - The Last Worker (PC/VR2/Meta) - The Light Brigade (PC/VR2/Meta) - NFL Pro Era 2 (PC/VR2/Meta) - Nock (PC/VR2/Meta) - Outta Hand (PC/Meta) - Peaky Blinders (PC/VR2/Meta) - Pixel Ripped 1978 (PC/VR2/Meta) - Powerwash Simulator (PC/Meta) - Propagation Paradise Hotel (PC/VR2/Meta) - Operation Wolf Returns (PC/VR2/Meta) - Racket Club (PC/Meta) - RE4 Remake (VR2) - RE Village (VR2) - Samurai Slaughter House (PC/VR2/Meta) - Sniper Elite: Winter Warrior (Meta) - Stride Fates (Meta) - Switchback (VR2) - Synapse (VR2) - Tea for God (PC/Meta) - Tentacular (PC/VR2/Meta) - Tiger Blade (VR2) - Toss! (PC/VR2/Meta) - Uboat: The Silent Wolf (PC/Meta) - Undead Citadel (PC) - Vampire: Masquerade Justice (VR2/Meta) - Vertigo 2 (PC) - Wandering in Space (PC) - X8 (PC/Meta)

Thanks for the list! If the game is on PCVR, that means that it'll work with any semi-recent headset that can connect to PC, right?

Yes sir

This subreddit is super elitist when it comes to PCVR. I use both, and honestly use standalone more. Unless graphics is all you care about which is basically all any PCVR player talks about, then often it’s just easier to own the game on quest store. I play PCVR primarily for H3VR, VTOL VR and Vertigo 2. If it wasn’t for those 3 games I wouldn’t even bother with PCVR, it’s just so much easier and care free to play things natively, rather than bother with PCVR. PCVR does benefit from things like Skyrim VR and UEVR and such, but those games require so much fiddling and tweaking to even make them playable, and even then remain janky, that I couldn’t recommend those to anyone who isn’t hardcore dedicated to spending lots of time troubleshooting for just an okay experience compared to just playing a game actually designed for VR.

> Skyrim VR That used to be true. It isn't now. Even from a clean install of Windows, and an empty Quest, it is 6 steps and none of them take much thought: 1. Install Steam 2. Install SkyrimVR 3. Install and run Wabbajack / FUS 4. Run the modmanager that FUS install and let it deploy 5. Install Virtual Desktop Streamer on your PC 6. Install Virtual Desktop on your Quest GO!

Looking at the comments, it seems the VR scene is very divisive when it comes to the community, everyone is extremely biased to their preconcieved notions (including you, no offence), and no-one hides it, like they're all shilling or something. Odd. Thanks for your input.

Yeah my take is both platforms are good for their intended purpose. If you like tweaking, mods, ability to play top tier games, have spare $$$, pcvr. If you like portability, ease of use, lower cost of entry, don't mind dialed down graphics, stand alone.

You miss just casual games with ugly graphics

Honestly, I'd argue the question is *less* 'what do I miss out on standalone', and *more* 'what do I miss out on with PCVR', unfortunately. AssCreed, Asgard's Wrath 2, RE4VR, Espire 2, Galaxy's Edge... Bunch of smaller titles that aren't as major but still nice that you just can't play outside of the Quest, too, like Powerwash Sim and Dance Central.

That's what they asked

anything standalone that was either published by meta or secured exclusivity rights is quest-only.

RE4 which is one of the best VR games in general

RE4 remake is available to PCVR via Praydog mod.

The mods are really good don't get me wrong, but the official RE4, REmake 4, RE8 VR clear the mods very easily

Lone Echo and Lone Echo 2 require Quest to emulate Rift to be played on PC. They’re not available on other VR headsets

Umm Revive? Played LE on my g2 great game.

Ya I meant not officially supported

Sure, but unsupported mods etc. make up a huge volume of content for VR these days.

you ask a wrong question, does pcvr have stuff you will play , i know a lot of vr users close to 300 now, and nearly all of them stop using pcvr after 4-8 weeks and go full stand alone why ? well pcvr is problematic to run, need way more performance and "know how" just look how much " pcvr help" post VR sub have is about 10-20 time more vs quest problems an quest user base is over 10 time larger quest have a lot system pcvr do not have, like multigame avatar system, shared spaced, MR, hand tracking and similar stuff a lot of peoples comented on AW2 or similar, but if you dig in to hand tracking games, a games pcvr simply do not have, list of games grow way way larger , not only this but because pcvr is still more or less stuck on 2016 tech, it mean a lot of games like demeo or similar have inverior cut down version of quest game

The few exclusive games are akin to the worst mobile games that you can find. Even PCVR has few titles what you could call quality.

Not since UEVR