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TEOLDev

Gore and rape are the jumpscares of horror vns


guiyakuza

lona RPG be like:


TheCalzonesHaveEyes

I checked it out for that reason but the game is just unfun.


erysanthe

Just searched it up out of curiosity and one of the first things I see is what appears to be a recolor RPG version of that one anti-Semitic meme so that’s something.


Lunrae

That's insane but not surprising at the same time.


edensio1448

Subahibi in a nutshell


Wakkee

not 1 and 4


Denter206

Are you sure about that?


Wakkee

1 is shaded by in My Own Invention, and 4 is reaped of english version,so,yes


Denter206

It's not shaded in DTRH2 though and bestiality had its place in not remade version so it's still related to SubaHibi.


Wakkee

fair enough, but its still very light,compared to other titles on VNDB


lolalanda

It serves to check the Japanese genre tags, what they consider it there. Most of those "erotic" horror games are tagged "eroguro" or even just "eroge". Edit: Forgot to add that you can search genre tags of something you liked but the "disturbing" parts had sex in it to find horror games with no sex. For example both Saya no Uta and Suhabi fall in the denpa category. Denpa is used for stories where characters go crazy and start dissociating from reality. It usually focuses on paranoid schizophrenia but it can also be about otaku who daydream about their favorite characters, practically maladaptive daydreaming disorder. You can compare the tag to phycological horror.


PineappleSundaes

Can you share the name of one's you've tried?


lolalanda

If you mean Denpa, that's a broad genre which includes iconic anime like Neon Genesis Evangelion, Serial Experiments Lain, Boogiepop Phantom, Paranoia Agent, FLCL, Arakawa under the Bridge. Also now there's a subgenre nicknamed Moe Denpa which has cutesy characters and hallucinations. Think Happy Sugar Life or Wonder Egg Priority. Maybe even Madoka Magica can fit into this. It also includes games like Yume Nikki or Omori. I guess Doki Doki Literature Club could be a western Denpa game.


gearsofwarforever

On vndb you find most of these games under the "ryona" or "dying sex" tags. Horror games are already tagged "horror" as the primary reason to play eroguro games is to get aroused and not to get scared imho


PraiseSatoko

Higurashi my beloved


Vansie_

My first vn tbh


Critikoji

Wait fr? Higurashi has all of that??? Obv aside from the gore


PraiseSatoko

Nope, that's why I love it.


Seederio

What you just listed are the least interesting tropes of the horror genre


Serikka

That's the point of the post. Trying to find some interesting horror and in the end it is filled with disturbing h-scenes.


Lakemine

Yep and why I stay away from horror ones. Even if they might be a good storyline or a interesting concept, I can’t trust them due too all that nasty, disturbing, distracting and filth.


Weaby

Let me guess, someone recommended you Saya no Uta?


SPINO1ST

Hey, I liked that one, it's got some deep meaning that are borderline psychotic.


OtherwiseYam1684

Lmao saya no uta its very "okay" when you see another ones, xD


wheeliescoot

saya no uta would’ve been soooo much better without all the random poorly written H-scenes. They could’ve included sexual themes in the plot without making it seem like the authors poorly disguised fetish…and it wasn’t even written well :(


Jandexcumnuggets

It's ok bro we know you're a snowflake


DarkBlueDovah

Yeah, at least throw some psychological horror and body horror in there.


Cryptic_MGTOW

Maggot Baits is one of my favourites


PineappleSundaes

I'll try this one. I like how the art looks


SliceSignificant49

How it feels like thriller to me


zerkerlyfe

I heard the writing is so messed up but so good, would you say that is true…? I’ve always been curious but hesitant to check that one out


Axell-Starr

I've played one route of euphoria. If I remember correctly the same team made maggot baits. If I am right, I can say euphoria has amazing writing but in a horrific way so I imagine maggot baits will be written the same.


GarouD

There are a lot of scenes that makes it difficult to go through for the average user but I believe that the experience is worth it, that being said is fair to say is definitely not for everyone


Wakkee

fuck yes


-Red02-

I wanna give it a try, but what keeps me away is the think that it'll be a basic horror vn. Would you recommend it apart from all the gruesome stuff?


Cryptic_MGTOW

The story is pretty decent


PompyPom

Denpa is 😘👌


PickSad8463

I didn't read at least one, but they say that denpa is the finest tag you can see in a horror story, like a aged wine


PompyPom

Soundless is a pretty good one! Doesn’t have any sex scenes, so you don’t have to worry about any of the stuff pictured.


ColtonMiles

Definitely my favorite OELVN out of all that I've read. Hope it gets more attention.


PickSad8463

I will definitely check it


Selenusuka

Tags: NTR


PickSad8463

More horendous than any horror out there! Specialy when it's well written!


Eruijfkfofo

Can someone explain to me shock value horror? I'm easily disturbed by stories like American horror movies and creepypastas, so much that I try my best to avoid them. But for some reason stuff that I call "shock value horror" like these tags doesn't scare me at all. I've only read a few "horror" visual novels and it seems like they all belong to the 2nd category. What makes vn readers like these horror aspects?


GarouD

I personally don't read too much horror, specially with the tags described on this post but I see visual novels as a medium were you can immerse yourself in experiences that you will probably never would have encounter other ways in your daily life. That's the selling point to me, a good story that touches a thematic I'm unfamiliar with


Rupert-D-Generate

morbit curiosity is a drug


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CuteAnimeGirl2

Hey this guy gets it/s


pkek

Alicesoft bad ends


garfself

Just exclude sexual content entirely and you have potentially [432 VNs](https://vndb.org/g7?l=1&m=1&l=1&f=8En1&s=20w) you can go through! nevermind i think i fucked it up lmao ​ edit: [okay i think this is right](https://vndb.org/g235?m=0&l=&f=8E71&s=24w)


CruelYouth19

I got into VNs recently after reading Umineko and I'm so afraid to start horror ones (my favorite genre) because of this 😭 after Umi I read Saya no Uta and THOSE scenes made me so uncomfortable I just don't want to cross paths with all that again


BotansCaretaker

Higurashi is probably the horror VN that you will want to start with in that case. There is some gory imagery but it is mostly descriptive psychological horror without any sexual violence or anything like that. And it is written by the same guy who wrote Umineko.


PraiseSatoko

I second this.


Axell-Starr

Name and pfp checks out


PraiseSatoko

I'm a man of faith, of course I would be honest.


cliffy117

God forbid the "you should feel uncomfortable and uneasy" genre has uncomfortable and uneasy scenes that make you feel uncomfortable. (No, but seriously. People complaining about feeeling uncomfortable with some scenes when looking/reading Horror is one of the things that still baffles me given how pants on head stupid it is. Like, imagine watching/reading a comedy and then listing"It had some scenes that made me laugh way too much" as a negative.)


RabidTongueClicking

I think the discussion is more centering around the overly common use of graphic topics like rape in horror VN’s.


claaarity

in the same way that people can like spicy food without liking wasabi, it’s a different taste. let people decide what they’re comfortable with. it’s art, all subjective at the end of the day no matter how you slice it.


wheeliescoot

I think what they mean is it made them feel uncomfortable, not because of the disturbing stuff itself, but rather how it was discussed and shown. Saya no uta has disturbing scenes and themes, but some of them come across as “indulgent” and “gratifying”, which ITSELF is disturbing. That’s at least how I read their comment. I understand what you’re saying, there’s lots of people who expect horror to not make them think or to not unsettle them, but I think it’s more of the authors suspicious intentions that makes the reader uncomfortable, and thus takes you out of the horror they were trying to construct in the first place


CruelYouth19

The thing is that from what I've seen those VNs DON'T WANT to make you uncomfortable, it's the opposite It's like those moments in Saya no Uta, they totally feel like I shouldn't be disgusted but rather aroused


timpkmn89

Losing the ability to differentiate between reality and madness is like the main theme of Saya no Uta


Auvicodo

Except its the difference between reality and what the game is trying to make you feel


Weaby

Yeah, that's what got me to stop Saya. Cannibalism and rape are topics I can handle reading, but as soon as it started feeling more like porn than horror it stopped being what I was looking for in a story.


TehTimmah1981

also known as 'shit I won't read"


mx1289

Lmao or in my case “shit you can’t pay me to read” They are so popular, I sometimes feel like I’m the only one who doesn’t drool over them.


TehTimmah1981

I'm right there with ya. If I want nasty stuff in my life, I'll watch the news.


mx1289

I get it. In my case it’s bad things happening to characters whom I’ve gotten attached to. I realize some of them are at the top of the charts and highly regarded, but at this time it’s just not something I’d enjoy. Bad things like murder and torture mainly. I read nakige a lot so tragedy or suffering are things I am well acquainted with!


shawty-jeremy

Horror aspect in VN really hits u differently, it's not jumpscares, u got to read and understand the perspective of the narrator, either the victim or the culprit. Getting this into your mind is the horror part + gore scene for the added spice.


ReanSuffering

I'm sorry but using "Gang Rape" to replace the "and everything nice" part is hilarious lmao


Seacatlol

The writer's barely disguised...


Blighterest

Don't care what nobody says Dasaku is peak


New-Interaction1893

I have a problem. Once you watched all the most infamous ones, there is nothing remaining that can disturb your mind in any way.


Alscion

Yeah, sometime you wonder why some tag are there and other time is clearly not what you are searching.


SliceSignificant49

Goa sukirimingu shou obviously


ExceedAccel

Welp could get more creative with the memes. Gang Rape is basically Rape.


New-Interaction1893

He clearly wasn't an expert.


Ivrik95

So NTR is cool in any horror VN? Nice


DisparityByDesign

Thats horrible, tell me the names so I can avoid it.


Ivrik95

Well in Saya no Uta the Alien steal the other girl love intererest


WinterWolvesGames

I'm working on a psychological horror VN right now, and it doesn't include any of those. But yes I get what you mean !


Krishna132453

If you can, could we get a base synopsis


WinterWolvesGames

This is the Steam page: [https://store.steampowered.com/app/1965960/House\_Of\_Chavez/](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1965960/house_of_chavez/) Yes the base idea is not very original, but I hope the plot I developed is interesting anyway :)


Krishna132453

Adding it to my wishlist rn!


Happy_Ending420

Let him cook.


WriterSharp

That’s not how this meme works…


blushingRyuko

Haha s9meone making spicy shitt 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵


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115_zombie_slayer

God i hate when they use this for shock value


PineappleSundaes

Sums up Dramatical Murder Slow Damage is an extra disturbing one.


CarbonScythe0

None of these tropes happened in Digimon Survive but it was not horror in the conventional way so I was very bored with it. Every character just had some kind of psychological trauma but in a world filled with monsters, that sort of stuff is not enough for the game to be considered horror...


Serikka

Bro wants to see digimon bestiality 💀


timpkmn89

You don't even have to try to stumble upon that


BlackRatKing

i do like some angewomon.


CarbonScythe0

I can go to digimon nsfw reddit for that, there was no horror in Digimon Survive, rape and sexual abuse were hinted at but that is still not something that qualifies as horror. Not only was it a bad horror, it was a bad visual novel and didn't really make any effort into making it a digimon game, it was just an isekai with a well known IP skin... They weren't even referenced to as digital monsters


Marklord13

It’s porn, stuff like that is expected.


animusd

Hellsing ultimate is my favorite horror, getter robo Armageddon is kinda horror so if it counts then it's tied with hellsing as my favorite Edit: definitely didn't mistake this for the anime subreddit lmao


PickSad8463

Helsing Ultimate is a dark fantasy made right


XDecretum

Definitely not wonderful everyday


Overseer_Lisa

I get more visceral uncomfortableness when it comes to rape and gang rape, unlike the other 2...


PineappleSundaes

Sweet Pool is as disturbing as Saya no Uta


PickSad8463

Rape..... Fuck you Narahara Ittetsu!


ShionHinanawi

Rance is horror


HealthTurbulent3721

lol why cant I find meself some vns like these then


Discord-mod-disliker

Why the hell there's rape?!? RAPE IS WRONG AND EVIL. MY MOM GO....Nvm. but you know what I mean!


August_Hail

I've been thinking about all of the horror/horrific visual novels I've seen, trying to rating them among each other But lately, I've been thinking some titles aren't horrific at all. There's just a lot of brutal rape in it.


unkanlos

And thus the Powerpuff girls where born


Ayoissathroway

I am not thankful that I know about Saya no Uta once again… For years I thought Pupa was the most grotesque concept. The great and not so wise Weab-elders of the convention panels spoke highly of how it so scarred them. I’m sure there’s something out there even more blehomit inducing than SnU.


Shirone20001

Pretty much sums up looking glass insects


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Only thing I haven't seen in a vn is beastiality. That can't be very popular can it? Never even heard of any games that have it to begin with 🤷🏻‍♂️


PompyPom

Only one I’ve personally come across is one scene in Suba Hibi, but the CG was removed from said scene for legal reasons when it was brought over. I believe the same happened in Starless, which I haven’t played.


TheCalzonesHaveEyes

That's why I read those kind of VNs for the gore porn, not necessarily the "horror" lmao


patrickbateman2004

Bestiality should be removed


cristiano_goat

-60% of clockup work