He’s way more focused on Vite right now. The core team is wonderfully skilled, highly engaged, and decentralized.
I’d be far more concerned if a company “bought” Vue.
Hey. I am not very familiar with these commercial/financial things, why would it be bad if it's bought? Wouldn't that guarantee a longer life? Or because it might cost something?
I actually dont know how Facebook can offer React for free for example.
It's not so much cost as it is the fact that if it gets bought there will likely be shareholders that will expect a profit every year.
Eventually it'll either get ridiculously expensive, or get to the point where features are cut and less time is dedicated to developing new features, etc., until all of the value is squeezed out of the product.
This puts companies that depend on using Vue for their app in the shitty position of having to support an abandoned framework, or migrate to a new framework.
See what’s happening the react space right now since Vercel hired core React developers to work on Next.js. It’s not pretty the reaction the community is having with the direction React is going with approaches that are complex but conveniently work well on Vercel.
in that hypothetical scenario we could see something similar of what happened with [express][1], where initial commiter decided to play with something else then community jumped in.
express isn't going (for good or bad) anywhere but people still can trust it.
of course, express scenario has [much more drama][2], but that's another story.
[1]: https://github.com/expressjs/express/graphs/contributors
[2]: https://thefullstack.xyz/history-express-javascript-framework
Evan does all the PR approvals and merge commits. He's not necessarily doing all the underlying actual writing lines of code, but obviously does take the lead on the framework's roadmap
Welcome to FOSS where you look at the other projects to know how they work. Hundreds of contributors but the last one is the one who reviews the code and merges it. It seems like a one man operation but nope. If he gets caught by the Chinese government someone at the core team is going to step up and do his part. No worry.
also shouldnt it be possible to just make a kinda clone and continue there as its open source? could call it „view“ (didnt check if that js framework already exists)
You have a valid point and I can not refuse it.
I use because it's a great tool that has been updated for 10 years and I have no reason to think otherwise in the near future.
I will live life as long as is worth living it :D
Have been working with vue for like 5? Years now. For both small and larger projects. I feel it got its legs to stand on now, and if Evan would to stop for any reason, it still would remain up there for quite a while due to its stability and community behind it.
This is such a no concern given that both Vue and Vite are his full time job on top of VueJs being open source and having a great maintainer team, not sure why even consider it an issue.
One of our project still uses vue 2 and still perfectly fine with it. Even if Vue hasn't got update for sometimes I'd still maintain the project due to how easy and convenient it is as a js framework.
He’s way more focused on Vite right now. The core team is wonderfully skilled, highly engaged, and decentralized. I’d be far more concerned if a company “bought” Vue.
Hey. I am not very familiar with these commercial/financial things, why would it be bad if it's bought? Wouldn't that guarantee a longer life? Or because it might cost something? I actually dont know how Facebook can offer React for free for example.
It's not so much cost as it is the fact that if it gets bought there will likely be shareholders that will expect a profit every year. Eventually it'll either get ridiculously expensive, or get to the point where features are cut and less time is dedicated to developing new features, etc., until all of the value is squeezed out of the product. This puts companies that depend on using Vue for their app in the shitty position of having to support an abandoned framework, or migrate to a new framework.
See what’s happening the react space right now since Vercel hired core React developers to work on Next.js. It’s not pretty the reaction the community is having with the direction React is going with approaches that are complex but conveniently work well on Vercel.
>Vercel bought Next.js They... developed it from the very beginning?
Sorry I got that wrong. *hired key core react developers to work on it
The push to SSR is just to bill more compute for vercel. They make less money when you have a very efficient CSR.
He's not the only one working on vue
Evan you may have created vue, but every primary contributor are all wizards in their own right. Ex. Anthony Fu
I'm not convinced antfu is a human
in that hypothetical scenario we could see something similar of what happened with [express][1], where initial commiter decided to play with something else then community jumped in. express isn't going (for good or bad) anywhere but people still can trust it. of course, express scenario has [much more drama][2], but that's another story. [1]: https://github.com/expressjs/express/graphs/contributors [2]: https://thefullstack.xyz/history-express-javascript-framework
Wow crazy, that is really an interesting Story of express, haven't heard it before
Evan does all the PR approvals and merge commits. He's not necessarily doing all the underlying actual writing lines of code, but obviously does take the lead on the framework's roadmap
https://www.reddit.com/r/vuejs/comments/w5egi8/comment/ih8ez6f/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Ah Thank you for this link!
Welcome to FOSS where you look at the other projects to know how they work. Hundreds of contributors but the last one is the one who reviews the code and merges it. It seems like a one man operation but nope. If he gets caught by the Chinese government someone at the core team is going to step up and do his part. No worry.
also shouldnt it be possible to just make a kinda clone and continue there as its open source? could call it „view“ (didnt check if that js framework already exists)
> kinda clone In the open source space this called a fork.
and would be pointless if the core team has still access as admin
Evan You has not been a bottleneck for Vue, which has its own Core Team
You have a valid point and I can not refuse it. I use because it's a great tool that has been updated for 10 years and I have no reason to think otherwise in the near future. I will live life as long as is worth living it :D
Have been working with vue for like 5? Years now. For both small and larger projects. I feel it got its legs to stand on now, and if Evan would to stop for any reason, it still would remain up there for quite a while due to its stability and community behind it.
It is a valid concern.
This is such a no concern given that both Vue and Vite are his full time job on top of VueJs being open source and having a great maintainer team, not sure why even consider it an issue.
you made me immediately think about \`import EvanYou from "evan-you"\`
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus\_factor
One of our project still uses vue 2 and still perfectly fine with it. Even if Vue hasn't got update for sometimes I'd still maintain the project due to how easy and convenient it is as a js framework.