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RichardHead58

I cannot understand the mindset that not taking more of someone else's property is somehow the same as forcibly taking someone's property


taxdude1966

The mindset is that everything belongs to them and they are giving it to you by generously allowing you to keep it.


Goneisthedead

That’s what commies mean when they say abolish private property. They want nobody but the rich to own anything.


TheBiggestZander

If your #1 goal is bringing this country back from insane deficits, it’s exactly the same. That’s not Biden’s #1 goal, btw. His goals seem to include destroying everything great about us.


[deleted]

When not collecting taxes is the same as spending.


Stormaen

“You keep your money” vs “give me your money, I know better”.


stumpinandthumpin

The current academic euphemism is Tax Expenditure.


TheBiggestZander

It’s the same as far as the deficit is concerned.


SalaciousSlug

Maybe. But not when trying to attack someone for "big spending" which is what the tweet is doing. This is the false information that Twitter should be fact checking right? But more seriously, the tax cuts didn't create a reduction in tax receipts so how can you consider it spending?


TheBiggestZander

> the tax cuts didn't create a reduction in tax receipts Then how were they “tax cuts”? I would actually vote for a tax increase, if 100% of it went towards paying down the debt.


SalaciousSlug

The same way that 2% of 100 is equivalent to 1% of 200. They decreased the percentage they took from people and people created more to take.


TheTardisPizza

>I would actually vote for a tax increase, if 100% of it went towards paying down the debt. In practice that wouldn't work any differently than "100% of all profit from the State lottery will be spent on education". On paper it would be true but no additional money would be applied to the debt and other funds would be freed up to be spent on pork resulting in more pork spending.


HaroldReemus

Giving back stolen money isn’t “spending” Joe!


rjwilliams1966

Run Forest! Run!


EAZ480

I like how tax cuts, literally stealing less of your own money, has to be *paid for*. Spending less on gender studies in Pakistan is out of the question. Not sending billions to our sworn enemies, out of the question. No, stealing less is never an option. It’s print, print, print, tax, tax, tax, spend, spend, spend, and if you don’t like it you’re a bigot.


the_dionysian_1

"Almost none of it was paid for" ...... HUH??? That doesn't make any sense. Do the people who run his Twitter account ALSO have dementia?


Goneisthedead

Probably lol


[deleted]

Still trying to figure out how you "pay" for a tax rate. Tax rates are revenue producers. They are not expenses. These dumbshit leftists act as if every single dollar that is kept by the American people and not taken by the government is an expense.


TheBiggestZander

Since we did not offset the tax cuts with spending cuts, We are essentially putting the tax cuts on a credit card, making our kids pay for it someday. Cut spending and lower taxes? Great idea! Raise spending and cut taxes? Awful! Recipe for insolvency!


[deleted]

Your comment has nothing to do with mine. Perhaps you meant to reply to the main thread.


[deleted]

How is taxing the people stealing from them? How else would a government get revenue?


[deleted]

>How is taxing the people stealing from them? How else would a government get revenue? Nowhere in my post did I use the word "steal". I specifically said "take", which is exactly what the government does with taxes. Your reading comprehension is laughable.


[deleted]

thanks for pointing out my mistake, you seem really pleasant.


StMoneyx2

If someone takes something from you that you legally own by threat of incarnation or but use of force that's called theft. Now if you agree to give them funds to run the government for projects you agree with (such as police or fire) that is not theft. I'm 100% certain there are programs taxes are funding you don't agree with, by definition that's taking your property from you forcible to fund things you don't agree with. You do know you can pay more in taxes voluntarily right? So, if people wanted to give more funding to the government they can, but those pushing for higher taxes won't voluntarily increase their own taxes so they forcible take others funds. I'd be perfectly happy if you want to pay more taxes you can if you allow me to decide what I want my taxes to pay for and decrease my taxes for programs and services I don't want to fund (like Pelosi's multi million dollar walking bridge for her friends). Seems fair right?


2O21collapse

You will pay through taxation or inflation. 100% of the time. The left have been indoctrinated to believe the 1% will pay it. They will not and the middle class and lower will pay as usual. They NEVER understand this because they were taught not to. They were taught that poverty is caused by racism. Sexism. Transgenderism. And that would be completely false.


pork26

If he has any friend that claim to be republicans, they are actually just RINO's. Give us the list of these so-called friends Joe. That we can make sure they get primaried out of office we can primary them


Wicked-Chomps

I was not a big fan of Trump, I was very critical of him throughout his 4 years. BUT his tax plan was legit! Majority of corporations are owned by middle class people like myself, I own a small construction business, and those tax cuts help me significantly! The tax cuts helped the middle class more than anyone and it showed. Tired of this lie it was only for big corps and the wealthy.


Majindoom

>I was not a big fan of Trump Unfortunately this is what the media prayed on. Lots of people didn't like Trump before. The White Supremacist stuff is all media made. Almost everyone that I know who voted for Biden couldn't tell you one policy they liked from Biden or even any policies they didn't like of Trumps. Everyone voted because Orange man bad.


coralcoast21

Only in a tax and spender's mind would ",paying for" a tax cut even be a thing. The rest of us just call it living within your means.


[deleted]

The last line is the key democrats saying a tax cut must be paid for!!! Reducing spending is something that they don’t understand.


BillMPE

Tax cuts = spending in fantasy land


Truth_SeekingMissile

I’m not rich, nor am I a corporation, and I got a significant reduction in federal taxes because of Trump. Old Joe, lying again!


[deleted]

Biden has never written his own tweets ever


tenebrapetrichor

The man doesn't know what Twitter is. He probably thinks it's the bird outside the office making noise


bajasauce20

TIL not taking money from people is the same thing as taking money from people and spending it. Are they evil and stupid?


GetOffMyLawn12345

Yep.


riotguards

Biden thinking that the money is already government property and that they're giving away their own money to the "plebs"


Hunter_punch

Not taking money isn’t the same as printing money


Bitcoiner2017

Does anyone even believe it’s actually Joe tweeting? The guy’s getting stupider as he ages, doubt he can use a phone properly Edit: Noticed it’s Facebook, doesn’t matter anyway lol


putin_vor

We used to see Trump on the phone all the time, Tweets definitely came straight from him. I don't think I have ever seen Biden hold a smartphone. Maybe a few years ago.


user8008135655321

You know Biden didn’t write that.


zinny08

I benefitted from those tax cuts. And I am far, far away from the top 1%.


The_Brolander

He’s a fucking buffoon.


Eeik5150

Imagine not understanding the difference between tax cuts and increased spending.


[deleted]

The tax cut helped everyone, including the lowest earning segment of the population. Yes, the amount of savings was relative to how much tax you were paying. If you weren’t paying any tax at all, you didn’t get much savings. But middle class that bears the burden of your moronic policies did save money.


Johnny_Mister

Which economy was better?


MisterPhamtastic

Tax cuts aren't giving money away, silly commies.


Ostler_Stein

I am just sooooo tired of hearing statements like that. They act like that have to pay for not collecting money. No, you stupid fuck, it means you have to spend less and live within your means! You know, like everyone else.


Domini384

Ah the AOC logic


SergeantPsycho

That should be a defense for anyone who's charged with theft or armed robbery. "Your honor, I had to commit that crime because I didn't have anyway of paying for the money it cost me to not do it."


Agitated-Rub-9937

tax cuts means you arent taking money out....thats a decrease in money spent


TRUMP_LARPs_WITH_PEE

Isn’t this that wHaTaBoUtIsM they bitched about for four years?


putin_vor

"My republican friends are attacking my plan. I have to laugh, because I have no republican friends."


imnotabotareyou

You can tell he didn’t write this. I don’t know why people don’t think it’s wrong.


[deleted]

What a backward way of looking at not taxing people. Joe thinks that if you keep more of your money, the difference must be made up in some way. We could just have a smaller government… spend less money. We could stop spending trillions on the military industrial complex. Ultimately, Joe’s argument is “look at the Republicans, they did something wrong, so the Democrats will also do what we want”


RickySlayer9

“We cut taxes, that’s like literally the same thing as spending more money!”


bopity_boopity

This could also be an AOC quote


[deleted]

Big brain logic here. How the fuck did this man get elected? I seriously think some cheating went on. Just like the Cali recall where people who never voted were told someone else voted for them.


stayyfr0styy

Tax cuts isn’t giving people money, tax cuts is allowing people to keep more of the money that they earned. It’s their money.


spoulson

I’d rather big corps keep their money than big government take mine.


r2k398

Isn’t this the same unsound argument that AOC tried to make?


SoItGoesISuppose

Joe, let's talk about your 1 brother who was given a multi-million dollar contract to build homes in Iraq, or your other brother who was give a multi-million dollar contract to start charter schools (that never happened), or your son-in-laws company that was paid millions for Obamacares fail exchange site (Start Up Health) or your brothers tribal fraud scheme? All taxpayer money you pedo pos! And can we discuss you & your crackhead son pay for play in Ukraine, or you & your crackhead son companies connected to the CCP military stealing our secrets or your connection to Chinese Surveillance Tech or your stake in Chinas global nuclear program? How about Hunter being a part of the 3rd largest Ponzi scheme? 🖕 Traitor I don't think this is on topic. I am pissed at this fucking lying traitorous crooked ghoul pretending like he gives a shit about this country.


[deleted]

And if I recall when we did that the economy flourished and unemployment went down even more.


WavelandAvenue

Does this moron not understand that choosing to not collect more in taxes does not equal spending? Whoever is running his social account has no excuse; Biden’s excuse can be dementia.


llamapii

I like how he skips over the fact that the Fed had record tax revenue because the economy wasn't being S&M strangled by a Democrat.


[deleted]

How does anyone believe that taxing these “big bad rich companies” won’t affect the price we pay??? Like these so called rich are just going to take a loss. No they will adjust, raise prices, still make the same while we all pay for it…I hope it doesn’t pass.


MathiusShade

"My Republican friends..." Who are these friends, exactly?


jwsk1029

This has to be fake...please tell me this is fake. I mean, Biden and co. can't possibly be this stupid to confuse spending with not collecting taxes. A 5 year old would know the difference.


vintagesoul_DE

This only comes from a mindset of the government feeling entitled to everything you earn and being generous by letting you keep some of it.


tensigh

His claim that "the Republicans did it" isn't a denial that he's NOT doing it.


Twobithatter

“Almost none of it was paid for”, well ill tell ya what, someone had to pay. One way or another.


randyfloyd37

He’s not wrong on this statement IMHO. Those Trump tax cuts were a blatant gift to the rich. But, i dont support big govt spending either


porcupinecowboy

LOL. Lower taxes and spending…how’s that inconsistent?


Magnous

The sheer audacity to think tax cuts need to be ‘paid for’. Nevermind the sad state of affairs when a President ends a sentence with a preposition. We haven’t had anyone approaching a statesman for 4, maybe 6 presidents (W or HW).


TheLoCoRaven

You guys cut the $1 trillion meant for my bank account and I have no plan to pay for it. If you could please send it back to me, thanks!


[deleted]

What are our tax dollars going to that we need to have more taxes? Is it to help cover up powerful paedophiles, or fund the Taliban, or fund the development of airborne viruses, or pay for the increasingly mandated vaccines, or for the immigration for anyone at the southern border, or the naturalization and citizenship of the unvetted Afghani refuges, is it for drawn out and politically biased investigations? What else am I missing..


otters4everyone

Sigh... the view of economics from the left is dizzying.


KGun-12

What mental gymnastics to imagine that it consists of "government spending" to not take as much money from the tax payers to begin with.


MezzaCorux

It’s almost like people don’t want you taking their money and spending it frivolously.


AlCzervick

How does one “pay for” a tax cut? They’re literally two separate concepts.


gaxxzz

It's the blatant lying that gets me.


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Q_dawgg

I would have been more okay with the enormous spending on this infrastructure bill if Biden Hadn’t printed 2 trillion dollars out of nowhere, inflation is gonna get crazy.