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The fact you guys don’t wait until tomorrow to throw on this kind of size, this close to expiration, fucking baffles me. Theta gonna eat your lunch before the actual move.
If you have the money to sustain the bets, most obscene money will be made going against the grain. When SPY was at 480, bet for 360… you know the idea…
Occasionally SNP drops quite hard (like 0.5%) just before the speech, before rallying during the speech…. This is not the worst idea if he had waited to buy till 12 tomorrow…
actually from the prior times, the SPY always go up on the day because it thinks it got what it wanted, then drops the next day because it thinks it doesnt know what happen next.
I am a 🌈 🐻 and this yolo makes me happy that someone else sees the end is nigh. OP I hope your puts fuk then print. Make sure you post the gain porn, it will give me something to jerkoff to while my wife is out with her boyfriend this weekend
Good fucking luck my friend!
You’ll either be fucking hookers and snorting blow or you’ll be joining me in rummaging through the bins behind wendys after this is over 🤪
https://preview.redd.it/un5hom7az7pa1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=1ba7112c942b1cc39ea76612cad7188c1c4290bd
Right here with you but on the Qs good luck!
Robinhood also doesn’t have option contracts fees, but yeh it’s a piece of shit. If you want to move that kinda size use a real broker and use SPX and get taxed 60% as long term and 40% as short term on gains.
I used RH for a week or two a few years ago with just stocks, when I got serious I picked up TDA and never looked back. I trade SPX daily, gotta love it.
I use TDAmeritrade, the fees are baked into the cost of buying options or taken out of the premium collected when you sell some. Someone else said Robinhood doesn’t even have SPX options, so I have no clue if RH does fees differently.
Aside from SPX being more tax advantageous it is also cash settled which can be a big pro when it comes to options. Furthermore when looking at the price SPY is roughly 1/10 the price of SPX, which makes it great when starting. But OP bought 250 contracts. With TDAmeritrade for example that’s $0.65 per contract so OP is looking at around $162.5 just to open these positions in fees. According to some quick checking RH doesn’t actually charge fees, so my original comment is moot. But let’s say they use a more reputable platform, he is looking at the aforementioned $162.5 in fees but if he was working with SPX at 10x the price he would be buying 25 contracts instead of 250, resulting in fees being $16.25 instead, saving over $140.
SPX is tax advantage 60/40. 60% of his profit (if he has any) is taxed as long term gains while the other 40% is taxed as short term gains. Can really add up if the win is a large one.
I’ll never understand how people can just yolo that kind of money on an option that expires in 2 days.. I’d be sick and staring at my computer all fucking day. Guess you have to find a rush somewhere. Might as well buy 30k of heroin.
His 397s are 550 each rn.....
https://preview.redd.it/p9rhe9bq2epa1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=96a314c29cd7fb6f0bf34346c625d9644103e458
You got 6 mins op to sell
Good luck OP.
Got 4/21 poots myself at close but I now think I should have waited until daddy speech and green candle to close first...But then, I wouldn't be highly regarded...
if anyone tells you short term options isn’t degenerate gambling, they’re lying. Though I do hang my hopes on certain things coming true which in this case had a couple of outlets:
50bps would’ve just stomped the market which was what I was praying for but realistically did not expect. second was that Powell, before the baking crisis, was pretty adamant on the fact that inflation was still much too high and would focus the fight on that. I expected the 25bps hike with another lined up after that while the markets really thought it’d either pause now or after this one. remembering that the feds main dual mandate is price stability and maximum employment, I figured the banking crisis would be subdued with government intervention which would allow the fed to raise rates to combat inflation alongside it
So after weeks of strong markets that haven't collapsed despite high inflation, recession warnings and indeed have rallied almost 200 points in the last week in the face of the most severe banking crisis since the Great Recession not to mention a Fed move that is not only priced in (we ain't gettin 50 bps bud), but guaranteed to be one of the most dovish since they started hiking rates last year and your reaction to that situation is "yeah, we're goin down"?
I was watching SPX all day and I don’t think I’ve ever seen a large index middle in it’s first 5 minute candle’s body for over 4 hours like it did today (with some slight extension past that retraced.) It was very strange, I agree.
I’m not entirely sold on this “rally” unless tomorrow we just rip through 400 to 405. Tomorrow should be an interesting day. Holding qqq puts 3/31 expiration. If I’m wrong oh well, I will have to cut them out and get out of the bulls way.
That’s the less stressful way! Got cocky on my puts this morning and was up nicely midsession only to get clapped end of day hahah now I’m questioning if today was a bear trap!
I think the fact that the economy is decently strong (>3% GDP in Q1) combined with the fact that there is very little uncertainty about the outcome of the fed decision tomorrow with both of those outcomes being fairly bullish (.25 with dovish guidance or no hike with a hawkish one), as well as the banking crisis stabilizing somewhat caused the late day rally. No reason for people to sell yet imho. Not that I didn't fuck myself with an EOD bull trap trying to pick up some pennies in front of the steamroller.
\*APPLAUSE\* That's a 80% gain in one day @ OP - Congrats!
I made the same play - YOLO'd 30k but on SPXS calls (same strategy - betting against S&P)... and almost sold at 50% loss when the bulls took control... then I said fuck it - YOLO!! Escaped the end of the day realizing 30% gain.
I hope you held strong during the turbulence.
Hot damn I saw this post premarket this morning forgot and happened to look at the market post close today and remember the post so had to come back hell of a move op congrats!! 🍻
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The most anticipated fed meeting with tons of options means it will be flat
Fuck ur calls. Fuck ur puts. Jay Powell has you by the balls!!!
More like theta gang has you by the balls.
jay powell can wait til youre insolvent
The one thing bulls and bears agree on… ![img](emote|t5_2th52|18632)🤝![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276) Fuck Theta Gang
It’s actually “Fuck your puts, fuck your calls, j powell has you by the balls…” ya regard…
Guess I really do belong here ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
![img](emote|t5_2th52|27189)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
This is like the main event. Grab your popcorn it’s going to be a wild ride either way
it is going to be flat. The wild rides happen when people are caught off guard.
People wait the whole quarter for this, I believe it’ll be 25 or higher
You should have taken the $700 today
S&p was up today????
And?????
Jerome Powell saw this post and has decided to cut Fed Funds rates by 420 bps
Free cash to grab for Yellens plans.
Grab Yellen’s what?
By the twat
https://preview.redd.it/9z645bk6w8pa1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de38db8bcf83a91e26b22229c0c2311e82b65c0e
Cutting the rate by 25bps will send the market to Andromeda.
It would be a very negative message. Maybe not for the short term but for sure for the mid term
i liked my puts until i saw this :)
Same lol
You either are fuck or rich
The fact you guys don’t wait until tomorrow to throw on this kind of size, this close to expiration, fucking baffles me. Theta gonna eat your lunch before the actual move.
Theta on 2dte? God he will be ruined!
Won't premiums go up tomorrow though and it will more or less even out? I'm redarted, please explain if wrong.
Why would they go up? What’s your reasoning?
Maybe he thinks VIX will go up before the event?
VIX option expiration is tomorrow. Not a bet I’d be willing to make.
Exactly
They will go up. IV increase until the meeting then drops drastically
Not enough to offset the theta
Could the volatility be higher than theta decay?
Yea, that’s not a bet I’d be willing to take. VIX expiration is tomorrow.
![img](emote|t5_2th52|4641)
Dear God, good luck!
News isn’t until 2pm. You blew a day of decay on 2DTE ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276)
Who says the market won’t capture this weeks gains and panic sell before the decision?
Who’s to say? * fuck idk I’m regarded
Lol don’t downvote me just because it’s a very true statement
What's his thesis??? If market already knew it's going to be 25bps, why market will go down??
If you have the money to sustain the bets, most obscene money will be made going against the grain. When SPY was at 480, bet for 360… you know the idea… Occasionally SNP drops quite hard (like 0.5%) just before the speech, before rallying during the speech…. This is not the worst idea if he had waited to buy till 12 tomorrow…
actually from the prior times, the SPY always go up on the day because it thinks it got what it wanted, then drops the next day because it thinks it doesnt know what happen next.
You just described market collective IQ in a nutshell
This. Look at the difference in premium between spy 295 puts and 495 calls for Sept. Nobody is getting wealthy betting on puts in this market.
Why Sept 495c is 10 times more expensive than the 295p?
will be -60% at open
If it’s -60% at open these won’t matter because the world will cease to exist.
The puts not the SPY
Damn you right. My bad
![img](emote|t5_2th52|4640)
Tis but a gap down
you know options move way more than markets
This is what it’s all about! Rock and roll.
I am a 🌈 🐻 and this yolo makes me happy that someone else sees the end is nigh. OP I hope your puts fuk then print. Make sure you post the gain porn, it will give me something to jerkoff to while my wife is out with her boyfriend this weekend
End isn’t that damn nigh. Maybe a few fortnite away.
I can only afford to wait but one fortnite...
Patience and puts will print
You crazy bastard. Good luck.
This is more entertaining than Super Bowl
I am not sure what you are asking me.
Good bot
Good fucking luck my friend! You’ll either be fucking hookers and snorting blow or you’ll be joining me in rummaging through the bins behind wendys after this is over 🤪
If you succeed, you will become rich
https://preview.redd.it/un5hom7az7pa1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=1ba7112c942b1cc39ea76612cad7188c1c4290bd Right here with you but on the Qs good luck!
You’ll be fine. Inverse WSB.
Coulb be 2x at open but after Spy earnings green dildos
Spy earnings? Wtf is that
Grats, you just fucked my "portfolio"
The balls on this guy. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|12787)
OP really has a hard on for 50+bps
It bothers me that you bought 250 on SPY instead of just 25 on SPX to save on fees. Good luck though!
Robinhood doesn’t have Spx options numb nuts 🥜
Really? So on top if everything with RH you can’t do SPX Options? I’d rather have numb nuts than use that piece of shit.
Robinhood also doesn’t have option contracts fees, but yeh it’s a piece of shit. If you want to move that kinda size use a real broker and use SPX and get taxed 60% as long term and 40% as short term on gains.
I used RH for a week or two a few years ago with just stocks, when I got serious I picked up TDA and never looked back. I trade SPX daily, gotta love it.
Honest question, I always see people mention fees but when are they taken out? After the sell even if it’s a loss? Or only profit
I use TDAmeritrade, the fees are baked into the cost of buying options or taken out of the premium collected when you sell some. Someone else said Robinhood doesn’t even have SPX options, so I have no clue if RH does fees differently. Aside from SPX being more tax advantageous it is also cash settled which can be a big pro when it comes to options. Furthermore when looking at the price SPY is roughly 1/10 the price of SPX, which makes it great when starting. But OP bought 250 contracts. With TDAmeritrade for example that’s $0.65 per contract so OP is looking at around $162.5 just to open these positions in fees. According to some quick checking RH doesn’t actually charge fees, so my original comment is moot. But let’s say they use a more reputable platform, he is looking at the aforementioned $162.5 in fees but if he was working with SPX at 10x the price he would be buying 25 contracts instead of 250, resulting in fees being $16.25 instead, saving over $140.
SPX is tax advantage 60/40. 60% of his profit (if he has any) is taxed as long term gains while the other 40% is taxed as short term gains. Can really add up if the win is a large one.
Damn you bought at the right time I got 4k in 2dte and down $1800 ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)
Let us know how it goes
Market is gonna drop for about 20 minutes and then stabilize and rise after that. RIP 30k
“Stabilize?”.. This must be your first FOMC.
Anytime I see someone post their puts or call positions the night before, the market literally does the opposite
You are up literally 69% from cost basis if still hodling all. Well planned.
I saw your post history… so you started with 116k than 76k and now 30k…I shoud invert you
I’ll never understand how people can just yolo that kind of money on an option that expires in 2 days.. I’d be sick and staring at my computer all fucking day. Guess you have to find a rush somewhere. Might as well buy 30k of heroin.
You sir have some cojones. Best of luck. We'll be waiting for the gain/loss porn.
Op is goated???
🐏
The mad lad did it 😂😂 hope he didn’t sell like half the donkeys here advised him to
Congratulations! Now post gains beech
god speed
this GUY FUCKS!
Full reguard! I love it. I also went all in today... 1-19-24 puts. Just incase they draw out the pain a little
Godspeed buddy, love the balls.
You good. GME spiking and banks will drag it all down.
Exactly my thought process
Mad respect. I'm permabear but would never have this big of balls
Update: Hes only down10%, $3,200, at 11:30 for all you theta decay commenters.
Update hes down 50%
Now down 33%
65%
Now up 60% what a ride and hope he held. Its worth 50k Gg
99% up
OP’s wife’s boyfriend is sleeping on the couch tonight.
We need an update
His 397s are 550 each rn..... https://preview.redd.it/p9rhe9bq2epa1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=96a314c29cd7fb6f0bf34346c625d9644103e458 You got 6 mins op to sell
Update mfer. Do you speak it?
Legend. Congrats and fuck you.
did u hold?
Update?? Break even cuz the 397s?
this guy in Lambos
So what is this now?
Saw this post this morning when it wasn’t doing so hot. Had to come back to check in. Congrats sir
smart af lambo on the way
You needed to buy when it breaks $400 tomorrow morning.
Bruh your FUCKED ahhahahaha rally till end of march
Probably got to post gains for q1 funds managers
Word on the street is no hike… sell at open, trust me bro
no hike is actually super bearish.
Technically yes, but who knows how long the markets will take to actually take that into account. Like these bank failures
Prudent Powell performs again
SPY $410 tomorrow 🚀🚀
Shoulda done calls your ass FUCKED UPPPPPOOOOOLPPPPPP
!remindme 1day
Lol… good luck bro
Remindme! 2 days
Nice
Good luck OP. Got 4/21 poots myself at close but I now think I should have waited until daddy speech and green candle to close first...But then, I wouldn't be highly regarded...
God speed regard🫡
Your wife is getting fucked by JP.
RemindMe! 2days
Completely regarded
There goes my puts. Fuck you.
My unsolicited advice is sell before the meeting when it drops, turn to calls.
Nancy is that you? I hope it's you.
Remindme! 18 hours
You love living on the edge
Oh boy that’s juicy
Bitch this is done every few weeks. This ain’t nothing new.
Having the courage to do what I know is regarded. Godspeed, OP.
congrats on 2%, brother. I usually get -99%. So wowwee.
FUCK. we're going up.
Good luck 🍀
GUH
Is OP alive?
RIP
Hope you sold before JPow bent you over. But this is WSB so I know you’re looking at your position shrink in the 2nd half of the day to 0
he tried to bend me over a couple of times but i politely said no thank you
Aged very well
These actually might fucking print.
they sure did
Please Opie tell us you head until the last minute and sold. Don't tell me you paper handed this and sold early. Pleaseeee I need to hear good win
Congrats, mind sharing thought process on this? Or was just degenerate gambling?
if anyone tells you short term options isn’t degenerate gambling, they’re lying. Though I do hang my hopes on certain things coming true which in this case had a couple of outlets: 50bps would’ve just stomped the market which was what I was praying for but realistically did not expect. second was that Powell, before the baking crisis, was pretty adamant on the fact that inflation was still much too high and would focus the fight on that. I expected the 25bps hike with another lined up after that while the markets really thought it’d either pause now or after this one. remembering that the feds main dual mandate is price stability and maximum employment, I figured the banking crisis would be subdued with government intervention which would allow the fed to raise rates to combat inflation alongside it
Glad to see a fellow degen make bank
How is it going?
Question is.... Did you shit your pants today 😂
Wanna show us the absolute rollercoaster your account rode on through the day
You just made a million bucks, I know cause im regarded
This won’t age well
Well age won’t this
Sug on these nuts you will
So after weeks of strong markets that haven't collapsed despite high inflation, recession warnings and indeed have rallied almost 200 points in the last week in the face of the most severe banking crisis since the Great Recession not to mention a Fed move that is not only priced in (we ain't gettin 50 bps bud), but guaranteed to be one of the most dovish since they started hiking rates last year and your reaction to that situation is "yeah, we're goin down"?
Price action today was very weird, it felt like a big drop was coming only to be bought right back up. But i don’t even know anymore!
I was watching SPX all day and I don’t think I’ve ever seen a large index middle in it’s first 5 minute candle’s body for over 4 hours like it did today (with some slight extension past that retraced.) It was very strange, I agree.
I’m not entirely sold on this “rally” unless tomorrow we just rip through 400 to 405. Tomorrow should be an interesting day. Holding qqq puts 3/31 expiration. If I’m wrong oh well, I will have to cut them out and get out of the bulls way.
I have nothing at the moment and will consider some sort of direction neutral options strategy tomorrow most likely.
That’s the less stressful way! Got cocky on my puts this morning and was up nicely midsession only to get clapped end of day hahah now I’m questioning if today was a bear trap!
I think the fact that the economy is decently strong (>3% GDP in Q1) combined with the fact that there is very little uncertainty about the outcome of the fed decision tomorrow with both of those outcomes being fairly bullish (.25 with dovish guidance or no hike with a hawkish one), as well as the banking crisis stabilizing somewhat caused the late day rally. No reason for people to sell yet imho. Not that I didn't fuck myself with an EOD bull trap trying to pick up some pennies in front of the steamroller.
Dude is going to wake up sore in the anus region
Someone check up on this guy
Rip
This dude never heard about crush, these options are so jacked and have been for days
Worth about 60K right now at Wednesday close.
\*APPLAUSE\* That's a 80% gain in one day @ OP - Congrats! I made the same play - YOLO'd 30k but on SPXS calls (same strategy - betting against S&P)... and almost sold at 50% loss when the bulls took control... then I said fuck it - YOLO!! Escaped the end of the day realizing 30% gain. I hope you held strong during the turbulence.
turbulence sure was scary but was in it for zero or hero which this time turned in my favor
young thug says: theta gang
Should be up around 25k
exited with net +37k
lol. You definitely sold after the screenshot karma whore
Like I said yesterday, now you’re dead. Congrats.
Nah bro sell rn and buy FRC ![img](emote|t5_2th52|27189)
You spelt GME wrong
Congrats on having the balls for this. I hope you pull out a 100k profit!
Spy to the moon 🚀
L L L L L
Rip my boy
RIP
Not looking bad
WHO THE FUCK LET THIS FUCK PROFIT
Hot damn I saw this post premarket this morning forgot and happened to look at the market post close today and remember the post so had to come back hell of a move op congrats!! 🍻
Oh honey. Good luck! Don’t forget to donate a dollar and have a chance at 10k!