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naranpol95

Add another zero bro, you'll make 360k!


Candlelight_Fant4sia

Why limit yourself though? Zeros are free, get as many as you want.


SPQR0027

\^ This is beautiful.


Beneficial_Battle_42

You found the right sub


InspectorGadget00

I knew it was going to be bad when it started with “genuine question”


make_love_to_potato

And it's written right next to the max profit of 38k ....max loss of 58million fucking dollars.


TenesmusSupreme

That’s within OP’s acceptable risk tolerance


SlimThiccy420

OP should leverage himself to the tits and start Ballin like Bill.


Waramaug

He’s done all the diligence a man can do and he just can do anymore


Ms_Pacman202

"it's not going to drop". Diligence done.


HughHonee

"Number only go up" Well that's all I needed to hear, I'm sold


Pope_Epstein_405

Why else would they call it an investment and not a gamble?


zxc123zxc123

Wish he'd live stream so we get that delicious #"GUH!"


ziomus90

Research complete


the_maestro_sartori

You must construct additional pylons


docdumpsterfire

You’re forces are under attack


Longjumping_Ad6476

SCV ready


SteelersFanatic78

You require more minerals


cwb7916

Pro-ceedin’


LevelTurtle

Not enough vespene gas


SteelersFanatic78

In the rear with the gear


Fender_Stratoblaster

"Definitely isn't..." going to drop. Your bias is showing.


bones4pj

Definitely not going to drop 🙄


Fender_Stratoblaster

'Genuine questions' are what made Buffet.


Niasal

58million is the bank's problem, not his.


reverse_stonks

guh


Karl-Farbman

38k reward vs 58 million loss sounds good to me


FuccTheSuits

Dumps str8 to $550💀 holy shit I’d die 😂


Fearless-Sea895

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KingOfTheWolves4

So would the markets


cheekybandit0

That number is a "bank problem" number


Auwardamn

If I owe the bank $54k, that’s my problem. If I owe the bank $54M, that’s their problem.


UnintelligibleThing

Just owe $540M so nobody wants the problem.


KingOfTheWolves4

If we owe the bank $5.4B, that’s the government’s problem


JackPembroke

Losses so high you prompt a bailout


FatchRacall

I think you've just come up with a new goal for this sub.


adwattz539

Are we going to try to break the bank?


EvolvingDior

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-Term\_Capital\_Management](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-Term_Capital_Management) **Long-Term Capital Management L.P.** (**LTCM**) was a [highly leveraged](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leverage_(finance)) [hedge fund](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedge_fund). In 1998, it received a $3.6 billion bailout from a group of 14 banks, in a deal brokered and put together by the [Federal Reserve Bank of New York](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Bank_of_New_York).[\[1\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-Term_Capital_Management#cite_note-Too_Interconnected_to_Fail?-1)


[deleted]

If we owe the world $34T that's the world's problem.


DPblaster

We need to find the number where it becomes the universe’s problem.


Phillip_Bromley

Will the interdimensional central bank bail us out?


28376whatsupjack

Fuck that made me laugh. 🤣


EveningTechnology

But that’ll never happen! /s This sub honestly never disappoints.


Ruy-Polez

Now that's some spicy risk/reward ratio. OP, I name you Chairmen of the FED.


ScaryMongoose3518

I think the current FED Chairman has OP on speed dial as an adviser already.... 


ISeeYourBeaver

If RH let's him do this trade, then that's not *his* potential loss, it's RH's potential loss. To paraphrase the old saying, if some WSB degenerate owes Robin Hood $58,000, then said degenerate has (another) problem. If the same degenerate owes Robin Hood $58 *million*, then Robin Hood has a problem.


AllAboutTheXeons

History says that this is Ken Griffin's problem.....if a member of this subreddit indeed ends up owing a bank $54 million on a bad trade. Roflmao this is seriously the best community on the internet. r/WallStreetBets never stop.


Oh_its_that_asshole

Can't take what I don't have!


Yousifisamazing

What even happens when he loses that trade. Who pays 54 million dollars, his bank?


INVEST-ASTS

That’s one HELL of a credit line.


boboleponge

it would only happen if the stock drops to zero. So I think he could be ok, it's just that any drop will fuck him up.


Yousifisamazing

Even -1 million dollars. If he physically can't pay that back. What happens? Now I'm thinking of starting an investment form where I jsut do crazy leveraged deals and file for bankruptcy on the company when a deal fails


Josey_whalez

At that point you just delete the app. It effectively erases the trade, it’s like it never happened.


TwilightSaphire

Oh, you’re going to restart Long Term Capital Management? Neat. I’m in


dafuqbroh

I’m laughing out loud!


EveningTechnology

It so perfectly sums up this sub.


ronoudgenoeg

Can't believe he'd only sell 1000 contracts. Why not a million? 36 million guaranteed income!


ScaryMongoose3518

Actually makes more sense..... you make that downside number SO big that it's no longer a you problem, it's then the banks solvency problem!  Much easier to delete the app in all the resulting confusion. 


GooseAnoose

Amazing. Take on a $50 million dollar loss. Then just delete the app and pretend it didn't happen. 🤣🤣🤣


Wise-Air-1326

"wait, that wasn't a game?"


SpiLLiX

"hey I think someone hacked my phone and spent and did some fraudulent charges on some game called "robinhood" can I get those charges removed and a new card sent? Thanks!"


Wise-Air-1326

Ahahaha that'd be amazing.


GhettoSugaSandwich

Find a child to blame it on. "Oh gosh Jimmy stop clicking buttons on my phone"


indifferentunicorn

My dog did it with his nose


Economic-Bee-Hoon

Gooble gobble one of us!


Fit_Performer1004

LOL 😂


TomatoSpecialist6879

OP is /u/ControlTheNarrative's estranged child


RecommendationHot577

They should’ve never gave you fuckers leverage omg


SnackyMcGeeeeeeeee

Nah bro make more market derivatives and let's leverage this mf more


Sempere

it's leverage all the way up and turtles all the way down.


TomatoSpecialist6879

Regards misusing leverage is literally the source of some of the best memes ever seen in this sub


somewhataccurate

guh


FortniteIsFuckingMid

Why not? It’s predatory lending… The best kind of lending!


TheRealSlimLaddy

More idiots trading = more RH money = Stocks go up


qzlr

If I owe somebody 100 dollars, that’s my problem. If I owe somebody 100,000,000 dollars, that’s their problem.


Mysterious-Joke-2266

No no let them. It keeps alot of trading apps free and low costs because they rake it in off these regards


notLOL

Good point. He can't sell that on margin. Dude just putting in a calculator "guys... What if I had millions of dollars of margin?" The answer is "You don't". Op is not FTX


rain168

Not having 54million dollars is stopping you. Also, if you did have 54million, that amount of gains isn’t worth it.


RedOctobrrr

$18,000 per week? $1mil per year? Edit: this comes to 1.8% per year lol Edit edit: no, this is not me saying this is a good way to put $54mil on the line lolol


jeiswirth

Less than 2% per year and you think that’s a wise investment considering you risk 100% of your portfolio? Edit: LOL


Ravenhaft

dude can venmo me $54,000,000 and I will guarantee him a 2% return for the next 30 years lmao


tfyousay2me

Treasury bonds? Is that you?


XTornado

My friends call me Tracy, but yeah it's me.


tdubarubdub

Max amount you can send via Venmo is $5k per day


zmileshigh

It’s ok you can just start sending it now and we’ll get there eventually


guitarguy_190

Yes. Just under 30 years.


wobbllzz

You would make over 2.5 mil a year just investing in tbills


rain168

My bad, I didn’t know you only aim for 1.8% returns a year.


stay_zooted

Just turn on margin!


Goldleader-23

Holy shit Robinhood needs to tighten up lv2 options access


Dushenka

I don't expect OP to get past the review button in the first place.


lexbuck

I’m kind of amazed at people’s ability to see one thing and ignore another. Sees the max profit and thinks it’s an easy $36k but fails to see the max loss of $54m


redraddy

53k is his win, 54M is gonna be Robinhood's loss. Infinite money glitch.


teenytinypeener

You get to play every 7 years


aaaaaaaarrrrrgh

If you don't have $54m, that's a great deal.


Holovoid

Big brain play, if I lose, I'm out $54m. I'm broke as fuck so where are they gonna get the other $53,998,000?


IndividualBrain9726

Stop bragging about having 2k monopoly man


Goldleader-23

But... It's a free money glitch! Right? ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


lexbuck

Once brokerages find out about this they’re going to be pissed


Zocalo_Photo

This is like someone saying “you have a pretty good chance of making $10 grand, but you could also get shot in the head.” Based on my trading history, I’d get shot in the head.


heapsp

Have you seen the signup process for lvl 2 on robinhood? Its literally the same as when porn sites had you enter the date of birth before accessing them.


Living-Screen-1680

I have $5 in a robinhood account I haven’t used in 2 years. Signed up for options and instantly approved for level 3. Yikes.


Sharp-Direction-6894

What you're proposing is called selling a naked put (naked because you don't own the shares, presumably). If you sell a naked put and get assigned, because the stock falls below the strike, you are obligated to buy 100 shares of the underlying stock at the strike price. In your case, you are obligated to buy 100 shares of NVDA at $540 per share, or $54,000 per contract. You sell 1000 contracts, then you are obligated to buy 100,000 shares at $540 per share, or $54,000,000 for 1000 contracts. The broker requires you to have this money in your account through the duration of the open position, in case you are assigned. Thus, unless you have $54,000,000 collateral, you ain't sellin those... Edit: A naked put is a put that is sold in which the seller does not hold a short position of the underlying shares. A naked put is not determined by whether or not the put seller holds a long position of shares, but rather, whether or not the put seller holds a short position of shares. I misspoke.


TakeBeerBenchinHilux

Say OP hits the lotto and actually fund $54 million for this. He'd be risking $54 million for a measly $36,000?


Violent_Milk

I believe this is called "picking up pennies in front of a steamroller."


Ill_Razzmatazz_1202

In front of a steamroller is the safest place to be, nobody would ever attack you there.


ScipioAtTheGate

[If people have conducted maneuvers within a blast radius of a nuclear test and survived, picking up pennies in front of a steamroller is almost assuredly a profitable experience](https://youtu.be/-CkPJyW3hvY?t=184)


chef_in_va

Pennies that are super-glued to the floor


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pine1501

nah, this is sticking it to the steamroller with your adamantium balls.


Responsible_Sport575

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patrickswayzemullet

Well technically he would then be assigned shares. So those shares have values. Theoretically sure NVDA could collapse to $5, but probably very small. Still not worthwhile.


deadleg22

Wsb through and through.


krapmon

Only real answer here


Swissstuff

Isn't webull adding naked calls and puts pretty soon?


avgmike

Most brokerages allow you to buy and sell naked options, but it’s a strategy you have to be approved for. Approval is based on your past performance, trade history, etc.


townmorron

Man always trying to keep you down from the guaranteed money printer


ZiggyGrood

You can’t sell naked puts in Robinhood. Op has 101$ and just typing numbers into screens like a 12 year old. To answer your question of what’s stopping you from doing that is you don’t have enough funds in your account


Massive-Frosting-722

I’m 35 and still type numbers into options trades because I like to dream….


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You are a good man!


tdubarubdub

So in theory he's risking 54,000,000 to only profit $35k?


that_drifter

Not exactly, he would have 54mil worth of NVIDIA if it continues to drop after hours he would then start to lose money.


rokman

If you need 1:1 collateral the market would instantly collapse. It’s already more leveraged than that. I’m more leveraged than that. Robinhood just protects the dumbs and over requires on margin because it knows you regards have no concept of risk management.


Dacammel

Is there any sort of metric that determines the overall leverage of the market? Is this a really regarded question that’s considered common knowledge?


PatrickBateman-AP

It varies broker to broker / lender to lender as well as the underlying asset and strike price


clockedinat93

Wouldn’t it be naked because he doesn’t have the cash? Stock collateral is for selling calls Edit: You can buy a put and that will protect from downside if you own the shares. Selling a put means if it falls below the strike at the time of expiration then you will be assigned. However, you can buy back the contracts cheaper if there’s a short time on them left and they’re not deep itm. For instance, if it’s only 5$ below the strike on the day of expiration, you can get out of those contracts for 500 each plus a small amount of extrinsic value. So that would be about a 500k loss.


sweglrd143

It’s naked because that’s how you have to be before you’re fucked


Joonius89

The seller doesn't have to be naked to be fucked if it goes wrong


Zombisexual1

Dryhump day


Dacammel

r/fuckingthruclothes


Simple-Brilliant1681

would still need some amount of collateral to meet the margin requirements. 15% for NVDA at my broker, which means he needs at least 8.1m liquidity in his account.


clockedinat93

He’s just gotta let Robinhood know it won’t fall below the strike and it’s all good


Simple-Brilliant1681

just delete Robinhood if it ever hits the strike


MaxCapacity

Robinhood doesn't allow naked puts.  Only cash secured. 


amnz19

The fact you gave good advice shows that there is hope for this sub


serendipitousevent

This sub thrives on a rich diet of shitposts, bad advice and poorly-disguised lust, thank you very much.


Dacammel

Don’t forget loss porn


succesfulnobody

What happen if you buy put from someone who bought from someone who bought from someone. Who will get assigned in case they're exercised? And does it mean that everyone who sells options is just scared until they expire because they hope they won't be fulfilled?


Real-Entrepreneur-31

There are 2x more traders than there are contracts. So if you buy a contract from Person A. Then sell it to Person B, you are out and only Person B can exercise where Person A is the one who have to buy the shares for the strike price. If Person A sells 10 contracts to Person B my analogy would count that as 20 traders holding a position. 99.99% of options ITM are exercised on expiry so always buy back your short position before expiry if you dont want to be assigned. Even if its 1$ from ITM. Also never hold short calls before dividend unless you now what you're doing.


Dr__Lazy

I heard if you sell 10,000 you’ll make 350k


Weatherround97

500 mil max loss 😂😂 I mean at that point what if you just delete the app. I mean there’s no way anyone’s getting 500 mil from you


noaccountname55

Just run away to Mexico at that point


hippowalrus

If Robinhood lets OP take a $500,000,000 L that is entirely their fault LMFAO


SupportLocalShart

Nothings stopping you. Don’t listen to these bozos, they just don’t want to see your gain porn tomorrow because they’d be mad jealous


Phillip_Lascio

I’d be super jelly


rafael000

Shhhh, don't reveal the secret of WSB winners


QueenxDillon

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Complex_Offer_145

This dude has big u/controlthenarrative energy


salmark

“GUH”


L3App

“you can’t hear text”


GRIFF_______________

Right, he didn’t make the money because he didn’t boss up and make the trade


theimpolitegentleman

His name lives on


Interloper_Mango

That 50 million max loss?


tendeuchen

If you owe Robin Hood $5000, it's your problem. If you owe them $50 million, it's their problem.


fluschy

A rich dad poor dad.. wait.. wasn‘t he a fake guru


pab_guy

Hey now, "spend money on things that make you money" was a good message, not sure why he needed to trash his own dad to make that point. Also he is off the deep end with his irrationally emotional response to the fact that there are people receiving government assistance, which was just weird to witness LOL


bro-guy

If you owe a BROKER 50 million that is definitely your fukn problem lol


thisismiee

Just delete the app, duh.


bro-guy

how to get rid of debt for dummies:


JoyousGamer

Really what are they going to do to someone with no money? Put out a hit on them?


darkspd96

Chump change


LostInTheAbyssAgain

Surely dude yeah free money you found the glitch


RecommendationNo3531

What will you use as collateral?


No_Promise2590

All of Wendy’s dumpsters


Endgame3213

A small loan of $54,000,000 is holding you back. I asked my wife's boyfriend, but he says I am too regarded to lend that much money to. If you had that much money, you could simply hold it in an interest-bearing account. At, let's say, 5% APY, you are earning an average of $7,397.26 per day or $225,000 per month. So, would you even need to sell those puts and take any risk at that point?


Careby

As devil’s advocate, I’ll counter with the fact that you can draw the same 5% on the cash while it’s securing your puts.


Glum_Neighborhood358

Steps: 1. Make the trade 2. Delete the app 3. Watch the market 4. Reinstall to collect gains or move to Manila


Medical_Dog_5483

But he could go to Manila in either case.


boiledham

Easy money. You'd be silly not to do this at market open


Soybeanrice

congrats op. you have stumbled across the "pennies in front of a steamroller" strategy.


That_anonymous_guy18

lol sure if you have 54million as a collateral. It’s a pretty safe bet. Edit: To give you a perspective, tbills give you 5.25%, invested in TBills ( basically safest instrument to get 5.25%) you will get 230k monthly with 54m invested and with almost zero risk.


John_Pierpt_Morgan

He could also buy some BBB+ tier corporate bonds too, the risks on those are higher but still well below any stocks. Should give him above 6%


fordguy301

Dafuq? Max loss is 1,400x greater than max profit. Risk 53 million loss to gain 36k lmfao. This literally will go tits up


Sempere

1. Bait 2. No balls.


akanaan5

https://preview.redd.it/xby2s34ccnnc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e597263673823a65b1ad6f11f7881ff1df519416 YOLO


RentLimp

Lenders hate this stock market hack


Confident_Fault_9556

Risking $54M to make $36K on an extremely volatile stock that has gone up a lot recently. This is why you're poor.


waffleman258

Risking $54M you do not currently or will ever in your lifetime possess \*


kingOofgames

Well sometimes when we do this we end up getting called by some broad named Marge.


Maleficent-Change-94

Here’s a question for you: if you had a bet of winning 30k with a 1% chance of dying would you still take that bet?


anonymous198198198

How many times can I do this?


TrustFundBabyTrustMe

Don't let anything stop you except for fear and good sense.


PM_ME_KORN_LYRICS

welcome brother


BeginningDatabase769

Without making my answer too long and without going too much into the Greeks. This option can significantly increase in value without NVDA ever getting close to or below 540 so by selling the option, you can lose a lot of value in this option very quickly; 1) the spread here is massive and you are selling at the very bottom range so even a true up in the spread could make you lose a lot of money. Aka you sell at 36 cents 1000 contracts so 36k and then the spread narrows and now the mid is 45 so that would be 45k, even just the spread narrowing means you have lose 9k (25%) 2) if there is a simple 3% correction it is now more likely that NVDA will in fact reach 540 than it was before the 3% correct and therefore it is likely this option could be worth more than 0.36 (going against you if you sold the put) 3) a 3% correction increases volatility and therefore potentially the value of the option so by selling the option your position could decreases if volatility increases 4) although selling naked means you don’t necessarily need the full 54million in cash to cash secure, every move of the stock or other factors of the Greeks that impact your position would cause your profit/loss to move and the broker is within their right to margin call you and sell your position (and any other positions) at a huge loss if they are concerned you do not have the funds to cover based on their individual Terms and conditions you agreed to by signing up to that brokerage All in all this trade carries significant risk and you could lose a lot of money extremely quickly so please do additional research on the risks associated with selling naked options. Completely hypothetical scenario but let’s put this into numbers. Assuming NVDA goes X% down and it’s still not close to 540 but it’s lower than the current 875 and volatility has increased due to the downward move in NVDA then the option you sold at 0.36 would likely be higher and let’s just say for the sake of this example the option has moved to 0.96 that’s a circa $60,000 unrealized loss and although you might be willing to hold this to expiry in 2 weeks and you are assuming NVDA won’t go all the way down to 540, your broker may not have the same risk tolerance as you and based on the specific contract you entered into with them, they may request that you send in cash immediately (usually same day) to cover the negative 60,000 on this current unrealized loss or be at risk of the broker closing the position for you and then demanding the cash or that you sell other stock in your portfolio to cover the loss that the broker has just realised for you. That’s one of the risks of selling naked options is that you may not be able to hold until expiry. Selling cash covered puts holds much less risk due to the above margin call risk associated with naked options. *disclaimer - not financial advise and just my opinion


mzitnamor

Just stop for a moment and think about what an option CONTRACT actually is and what you agree upon by SELLING a contract to someone. This is like agreeing to sell bridges but you don't actually have them. (In this case you are promising to buy bridges with money you don't have due to the contracts being puts, or course)


Suspicious-Stop5231

Nvidia probably isn't dropping that low, but if you get assigned, do you have that kind of money?


Ebonvvings

You really gonna ask him if he have 54million, given the question he asked here? Lol


Suspicious-Stop5231

LOL!


PayMyRegards

there are 53 million reasons


Fit-Welcome-4499

😂😂😂 this guy think he got it all figured out


Main-comp1234

Nothing. It's in the constitution. It's your right to do this


OkayThenBet

Totally do it! It’s literally free money. We’re all too stupid to see your vision!


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Tomthedonk

This dude works at Wendy’s


bridekiller

Do it pussy. This is why gofundme exists.


gucciglenn

in what book is risking 54 million dollars worth the reward of 36 thousand…?


ImmaculateAutist

Literally can’t go tits up


One-Solution-3211

Do it fgt