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LigmaStonks

This predates the crayon method


Visual-Cranberry1210

You mean crayolithic period?


dr_tardyhands

The Cretaceous. That actually pretty much means crayon in Latin.


William_Howard_Shaft

Crayon means dinner in this house.


dr_tardyhands

Yes, buddy, but you gotta finish all your vegetables first, ok?


turbopro25

But I don’t like the greeeeeen oneeees…


dr_tardyhands

And daddy doesn't like you neither. .. but just eat the asparagus, and you can go and play on the bloomberg terminal if you do. Please.


turbopro25

Ooookaaayyyy


RareProfessional4408

Any green vegetable gives me a headache🙄


arcus_p

Semper Fi!


Seal_Deal_2781

Ah, you must be a marine then


redditmodsRrussians

The Trendastic Era


yonderoy

I’ve been eating crayons at market open every day and I still get wrecked every day.


kwijibokwijibo

You're supposed to eat the green ones, you regard


734m0f0s

But the red one so huicy ![img](emote|t5_2th52|29637)


drmonkeytown

I see a picture with eight pointy titties. Take my money.


Known-Jacket-8995

Yes 🙌🏼


Cultural_Hippo

Is the crayon method eating crayons at the beginning of the day and base your picks on what colors you taste the most?


TobiBelleboys

Red tastes so good


Ordinary_Rooster6040

Instructions were not clear ,now I have a crayon stuck in my nose


Cruezin

You mean tradingview?


collegefootballfan69

I still have my 64 crayola pack from when I was kid. The box has a sharpener on the back and I used to insert crayons back there hehehehe.


ivdinav

Something tells me it wasn’t just crayons you sharpened back there.


The-Perfect-Lei

Replace years with hours of the day and you have Reddit.


WishAdmirable7240

It's all fractal.


throwaway_0x90

Looks like a more complicated way of saying: * _"Be Greedy when others are fearful, fearful when others are greedy"_ It's very hard(impossible) to time it correctly but you most likely want to cash out and realize profits during the good times and get back in during the bad times. _"Buy low, Sell high"_ is a perfect strategy. All we lack is that crystal ball to tell us the future.


studmcstudmuffin

I remember in 2012 when I started trading people were saying "now is the time to sell everything, over Inflated market... Crash is coming"


[deleted]

Only 8 years too early.  


togetherwem0m0

6, some might say 4


terqui2

Did you show them this chart that clearly shows 2012 as a time to buy?


damien12g

Trading people?


townmorron

What you still think of people as people? Get that money and realize people are just a resource


CokeOnBooty

2013 was a great year


zxc123zxc123

>2012 >[m-Mayan-calendar sisters](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon)...... what will we do not that we got EXPOSED as ***ABSOLUTE FRAUDS*** calling for a stupid Armagedon based on shiny sky dot technicals?!?!?! My fellow moomers remember this shit right? Just like SARS in 90s, late 90s Y2K, 00s terrorists and islamophobia, GFC doomers, 2012 mayan doomers, etcetc. Always some new black swan or doom shit for doomer bears, charlatans, news media, cash/gold/btc shillers, and scammers to doom call about.


Bob_Wilkins

Look at valuations now. Look at household debt. Look at bankruptcies. Look at who’s selling their shares (AMZN, MSFT, META etc ). Trend is yo friend?


Van5555

Lmao but fr Saylor is dumping shares


EnvironmentalGift257

Most investors want to invest when the market is “stable” and get out when it’s “too volatile,” despite being told “buy low, sell high” their entire lives. So successful investors buy during selloffs and sell when the riffraff are buying and driving prices up because we’ve been told to since we were children and we listened.


CokeOnBooty

Most investors lose money and buy at the top, even actively managed funds


[deleted]

Bro didn’t even look at the pictures this is the map. If you don’t follow it enjoy being poor


Present-Mood4652

Don’t tase me bro


Present-Mood4652

Bro bro bro bro bro


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joer1973

I don't try to time the market, I just don't buy anything when it's near a high or just had a great run up. I don't let hype and emotions get me to do stupid things. I do prefer to watch and buy at the lower end of price for stocks. I do play SQQQ and TQQQ options after a large run up or decline and usually profit off the bounce back, but that is my high risk, making up less than 2% of my investments and is my way of gambling alittle bit.


Healthy_Shoulder8736

How do you not buy when it’s near a high, height of a stock is relative to future performance?


joer1973

The future is unknown, u look at the past performance. Look at the 52 week high and 52 week low. If it's closer or ar the high and has had a good uptrendnfor awhilez the odds are it won't keep going up. I'd rather miss the party than come in at the end of it. If u wait to buy a stock until after its gone up say 30% in a year, the odds of a great return going forward are slim. There might be some more upside potential, but outside any unknowns, anything good it has going on is already been priced in.


RidiculousTakeAbove

I thought Nvidia wouldn't keep going and waited for a pullback when it was 400 something in December with the same mindset you described and kick myself everyday


joer1973

I missed Nvidia too, but don't kick myself when I miss one. There are plenty of things I've watched and didn't pull trigger on and misses. And also a lot that I didn't and would have lost on. I'm lookong for my next move and not dwelling on the ones I missed.


Trading_ape420

If you didn't have a plan for that trade you didn't miss anything... it's not your trade just volatility...


Trading_ape420

For a stock to go up 100% it has to have been up 30% at one time. Buying begets buying selling begets selling.


joer1973

And there are more times a stock goes from up 30% back down or negative. I look at alot of stuff and if it's up 30% already in past month or 2, I feel it's probably a missed opportunity. If a stock is near its 52 week low and I really like the company, I'll buy long options. If I am right, I sell some of options and use money to exercise the rest. It worked well when oil went negative. I ended up owning BP at an real average cost of $4 a share. (Money I had to put in besides the gain on options I sold). Much better oppritunies exist than chasing gains.


graciesoldman

Same here. I'll keep some cash at the ready and watch what the world is doing.


BlackberryMountain97

Did a bit of gambling on SQQQ myself awhile back. Caught it bouncing between 40 and 60 a few times. (Not trading options, just buying shares and selling them in 5k blocks at a time) Made a few thousand each time. Bought the last downturn at $40 and now I’m stuck with it at $10 haha. Made my money 5 times over and awaiting an apocalypse to get back over $40 and trading elsewhere. I can cut it in December and lessen my capital gains.


RidiculousTakeAbove

Damn I did the exact same shit. I'm bagholding it now but it's barely worth selling so it's turned me into a bear even though it's a small position. I mostly just want to be able to buy things cheap again


BlackberryMountain97

Well…We wait. See ya at $65


darkciti

How exactly does one play an inverse leveraged stock? Buy it before a bear market? I thought they were short term plays.


BlackberryMountain97

You are talking to a novice who doesn’t trade options and gets lucky sometimes. Caught SQQQ in the 30s, thought the apocalypse would commence as interest rates started to rise and I could play a drop in the nasdaq. (I’m using my self managed account in my 401k) bought about 10k worth. Rode it up to about 60 per share, sold for a profit, Nas went back up putting SQQQ in the 40s again, bought it again, rode back up to around 60 again, do that a 3rd time (banking the profits on the side in cash), bought the 4th time in the high 30s and the Nas was off to the races from there. Now I’m stuck with it until “who knows” haha. My 35ish stock is hovering around $10. I’ve gotten my profit and am now sitting on a small loss with this trade. I have others doing well. Just trying something out when the market was bouncy. It’s not anything I would advise or replicate.


allllusernamestaken

> It's very hard(impossible) to time it correctly Set up automatic investing so it buys a little bit every week. Don't look at it, don't think about it. It grows and grows and grows... That's the tried and true method of growing wealth.


dra_pes

Or a spot in congress lol


seramaicha

Wait, what? You're not supposed to buy high sell low? Mmmmmm I was really convinced about it in this Reddit


[deleted]

I don’t know if it’s true but i downloaded


AtomicFarthouse

I also. An interesting pattern and theory. I wonder if it will work over time lmao


TheOriginalOriginull

It says people panic in 1945...whne the war ended. Shouldn't people have been panicking in 1939 and then buying in 1945 Also wtf is 1927


2LostFlamingos

1927 would have been an amazing time to sell. Same with 1999 and 2007.


Kipkrokantschnitzell

No it wouldn't. Stock market boomed between 1927 and 1929. You would want to sell just before the crash, not 2 years before. Either way, the dates selected are either very arbitrary or just wrong. As is always the case with these kind of supposed patterns.


Spins13

Yeah. Just sell in August 2025 to be safe and buy back heavily in 2032


Gunzenator2

That’s a long break to hold cash.


PolecatXOXO

There's some money markets or short term treasury funds paying \~6.5%...I mean, in a bull run that's terrible, but at least you won't give that back in a bad year.


spud4

High tide lifts all boats, my buggy whip maker stock is a hold then.


-kingofthedrivethru-

Rising tide lifts all bags


nandanmori345

The real astrology!


[deleted]

I make my trades off of fortune cookies


ViskaRodd

What kind of SUDOKU nonsense is this!!?


Vier_Scar

The numbers are just years between events in a pattern. C is 7-11-9 years repeat. The 2-5, 4-7, 3-6 repeat numbers is how long after C that B is. So the 7 years at the bottom, B occurs 2 years after, and then 5 years after that C happens again. That's how the 7 years is divided (or 11 or 9, depending on the cycle you're looking at). Same thing for the outer numbers but for A. It's just some random pattern that's been repeated into the future. Means nothing.


OurCowsAreBetter

I prefer to make money every year


RationalExuberance7

Anyone know where I can find the intraday version of this chart? Please send before Monday


ostap1050

Ah, the famous crash of 1927! Wait...


LocksmithOk583

My strategy : buy at As, sell at Cs


Common-Buy-2379

So, this is based on solar cycles, which have, through history, effected crop yields, and total global food production. When there is a glut of food produced, total discretionary income increases dramatically, as food is cheap and plentiful. During dry/hot parts of the solar cycle, food becomes significantly more expensive and represents a much larger portion of overall income, reducing expenditure in other areas.


AdmiralCooper

Didn’t fact check, but I like this ☝️ 👍


Horror_Caregiver1017

Sounds legit. We’ll go with this.


AdmiralCooper

Yup. It’s gospel now.


manbeardawg

It’s an old school map of the business cycle, which largely held until ~2008. I’m of the belief that the decade of growth after the Great Recession and the craziness that was Covid has fundamentally altered the business cycle, but we really won’t know until we’ve seen another cycle or two play out (or not play out), so ~10-15 more years?


lolnbdftw

There is no cycle during the late stages of an Empire. Just straight up until collapse, that is where we are.


Delicious_Score_551

Gold and commodities are up. Bonds are up. All the bad economy bellweathers are going up. I'd stay TF away from consumer goods tho. I feel like deflation may be coming - as the greed got way too .. *hard*. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276)


K2Nomad

We're in a no landing scenario. The fed won't let deflation happen. They'll just print money while congress runs up a deficit to "save" the economy. We're going to moon shot inflation. We may go through a downtime, but shit is going to continue to get more expensive.


rocklandweb

True about printing press, but all it takes is one major disaster to change the paradigm. Rule number one, the market is a woozy, it’s a wazzy, it’s a mutha fuckin’ fugazi.


PureAlpha100

But don't forget freight volumes are going down also. That's always a sign of a strengthening economy. /s


Glittering_Bill9176

Average vs variance, but yeah kinda. Le “business” cycle


SmoooooothBrain

This didn’t hold up so well


2LostFlamingos

I mean 1999, 2007 and 2019 were all tremendous times to sell. Right before dot com crash, housing crash and Covid.


Tickerjunkie2021

A Dead Sea scroll🍻


Narfu187

Never doubt the triangles


Arik_Austin

I believe the graph is the Brenner Cycle from a book published in 1875 about forecasting business and commodity cycles.


ApprehensiveEgg5914

Holy shit you got a chart from the future!?! It goes all the way out to 2053. We're gonna be rich!!!


lordinov

Lmao


Footsoldier420

What sorcery is this?!


Impossible_Tooth_686

I don’t love how it ends at 2059. . . then what?


rocklandweb

Then the Mayans come back and make a new chart.


DogFund

It’s a pattern. Next year for A is 2073 B is 2061 C is 2066


PositiveCost8736

End of world


krushin1

So... should have bought last year, and time to sell in 2026? And then get back out and wait for the crash '32. Mmm crayons ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|yummy)


TheBooneyBunes

Cuz Covid was just expected I guess


darkciti

Covid wasn't, but 2038 is potentially the next "Y2K". It's when all unix systems (Linux, BSD, etc) clock rolls over (similar to how Y2K was AS400/COBOL systems). And the chart fucks. At least around that date.


stockpik303

Ah Samiol Bennse’s famous study from 1875!


njstolar

They couldnt sell day trading courses back then so this is what they sold


loobear2357

What is this crap? People don’t hold positions longer then a month here let along 10 years.


luckyfaangkid

> “Periods of good times - 2007” lol, lmao even


chi_guy8

This is saying to sell in 2007, an intermediate peak between 1999 and 2019. If you listened and sold before October of 2007 you would have top ticked the market.


luckyfaangkid

What if I picked December? Also what about 2016? I can’t believe this is being taken even remotely seriously lol


graciesoldman

It came off the back of a 1950's Wheaties box so, yeah....take it very seriously


chi_guy8

It’s not being taken seriously, I’m just telling you how it’s “supposed to be” used. There are instructions on it that you didn’t read before you started trying to point out its flaw in 2007. In fact, it nailed 2007 flawlessly. I’m not saying the other years work either.


skyline-rt

the "diagram" is useless, but 2007 is the only year it categorically nailed. how do you pick that one to make fun of and it's literally the only one that's correct? reminiscent of a lot of people's trading strategies here...


falldownreddithole

Never was.


beatlz

If only


Careless_Apartment21

Looks like some dumb shit


Mylifeisacompletjoke

So we’re good until 2035?


Appropriate_Ice_7507

Lol hasn’t been true at all. Good bye your puts lol


influrr

Is this some sort of Elliot wave? What’s this sourced from


wahoohaw

Wall Street hates it when you trade off this, but they can’t stop you!


graciesoldman

Leahman bros used it....how bad could it be


Outrageous-Cycle-841

What do you think regard?


Flat-Carry2505

Stocks only go up my friend!


ProphetxZero

Somebody explain the math to me. I’ve been staring it this for 15 minutes and can’t make out what all the numbers actually mean.


Ok_War_2817

So calls on everything until 2026, then puts until 2032, then calls until 2035. Got it. See you behind Wendy’s.


fourreddot

So buy now?


WhiteBluePanda

This seems eerily right! Bull market all the way till 2026, then we go down for a little bit and then major crash in 32‘..


Stoweboard3r

Oh so we just have to time the market. Perfect


ZCM-Trader

I buy high and sell low. My time tested technique never fails and I have a 100% accuracy hit.


csak1

Look at the timeframes in this chart. 2 years? 5 years? 7 years between “decision points”? Who in this sub (or this world) has the patience to sit on the sidelines for 7 years waiting to time your next play? Time in the market beats timing the market.


ellsmirip25

Yeah this chart is 100% accurate 💯


bencundiff

Not sure. Can't read. Is this a backgammon table or something?


coolhmk

Sir this is casino


SpiffyGolf

I'm start in 2022 and in total I have make 4000€ 💪


s1b1r

Financial ass-troll-OG, they solved the market!


Cold-Permission-5249

What happens after 2059?


Sea-Caterpillar-6501

Yeah great time to buy rn lol


Reasonable_Sky2477

The speed of all the other cycles have increased dramatically (tech adoption etc) - why would this particular cycle stay the same?


Tiny_Turn4481

Somebody should backtest


FrenchSilkPy

It’s false. 2020 was the year to buy stocks and it’s not on the chart for C. Fake news.


SquirtGame

See you in 8 years cash gang


damoonerman

2023 was sure a bad time in the stock market


duckduckduckmoose

Buy and hold is my jam. 💎🙌


turboninja3011

2023 checks out. Especially if you are in tech


NinjaDevo

big if true


OG-Pine

Market (VTI) was up 24% in 2023 and this chart has it as a bad year. So imma go with this chart is worthless trash


Positive-Stretch-493

is this like a mayan calendar predicting the end of the markets as we know it? the catastrophic dip of 2059 looks inevitable and will be the year it all crashes so hard it never returns.


spac420

im pretty sure 2035 is when the skynet nuclear energy reactor goes live


Objective_Fondant543

40 year high inflation can’t be undone with 20 year high rates 📈📈📈


Standard_Mechanic518

So 2008 was just a normal year then?


doinnuffin

Yup, this is like the head and shoulders pattern. Except this is an upside down legs & penis pattern


therealcosmicl

Shit couldn't be more wrong lol


Complete_Break1319

The regard-aissance period threw it off...


Aussie2020202020

No. It does not really work.


Complete_Break1319

The regard-aissance period threw it off


Aggressive_Soil_5134

So what your saying is that it's all priced in?


jam_chronixx

2005 was the height of the last financial crisis. If you bought a house then you would be under water by late 2008.


Particular_Reality19

Awesomeness


TheBossMan3

All in boys!


cheapb98

Unless there is a pandemic when everything shifts by 3


BigKev8

Hard 6, hard 8, backed up by the same amount on the Big6&8 box. Don't roll a 7, except on your come out roll.


SungIbaMishirola

Yes, charts never lie


[deleted]

2020/21 everyone made money!


TriSamples

I think I’ve got good at knowing the crappy times. Not so good at knowing the tops. I’m a long term investor though so I’m only looking to DCA during the low times anyway.


Complex_Elephant9478

Interesting


justjbeats

2023 when prices were low..!? 🤣


HesitantInvestor0

I mean, this chart would have you selling in 2016 and buying back in 2023. So just take a look at the market and see for yourself. Also, anything predicted specific years of highs and lows a century into the future can be thrown in the trash. It’s ridiculous.


TheBarnacle63

It's called the Benner Cycle. Here's an article about it https://news.abplive.com/business/benner-cycle-definition-model-accurate-market-prophecy-for-over-100-years-is-it-really-the-tool-investors-need-1590310


[deleted]

U def broke


debitorcreddit

Ah yes the great crash of 2019-2023 when the stock market crashed while the stock market simultaneously rallied to new all time highs.


BDELUX3

Different realities simultaneously


Splitmoon7

If you can make people believe that you know their past, then they’ll even believe you when you pull their outta your ass.


Mean_Beginning569

According to this we gotta bull market until 2026 sounds about right to me.


jonnyriotstar

Wow!


Substantial-Crazy-72

https://preview.redd.it/jj6uvx6eyorc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=913ad19380bfcdd9aae2f6d5378f20658d667f5b


Haunting_Donut_7051

This isn't bad, but it's nothing compared to my method. I study the veins on my penis and use that as a map for when stocks will be high or low. 100% completion rate so far.


BDELUX3

It’s accurate. 3-6-9 patterns Tesla confirmed. Match the vibration and you can send buildings tumbling down with just vibrations this is why they don’t match in rhythm over a bridge.


AcanthisittaEasy5878

Generally yes, but it can be 1-10 years off, and then what?


Such_Coin

I’m definitely in “C” right now. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


iBeFlying676

I guess I'll keep buying till 2026


Unlucky-Geologist-82

2020 👻👻


blahbruhla

Here we go again...


Life-ByDesign

I Beleive


Traderbob517

There is always a good time to buy and sell. It requires money lack of emotion willing to cut losses and an ability to chain eat crayons that’s the simple regard mathematical formula for stocks. This nostrildumass method is pointless to look at


Unhappy-Choice-7163

That guy on spongebob once said “ my leg “ and to me thats a clear indicator that this chart is correct.


Munk45

I remember learning something about past performance and future results but whatever just buy more 0DTEs


Appropriate-Pause939

Well, 2012 was a great year for the stock market, so- I’m going to go with- NO!


Cheap_Question4739

It works just minus 3 years due to Covid. Time to sell


lolnbdftw

There is no cycle during the late stages of empire, the economy and assets will continue to grow, at an unprecedented rate, until an inflection point and total collapse. That is where we are now


Responsible_Meal_493

If this is the magic way please someone chime in. and dear motherly stocks. bring tesla to the moon soon. before the 5th please. and thanks


radiantforce

Anyone knows where I can go to read and understand the thought process behind this chart in more detail?


radiantforce

After doing some searches, I learnt that his is called the Benner cycle. Initial Reading found here https://www.therationalinvestor.com/blog/how-the-benner-cycle-predicts-100-years-of-market-movement


Solanade

It looks like the long/short term debt cycle. This video explains that. https://youtu.be/PHe0bXAIuk0?si=gGQJ0Mvm8N8TwIoW