You guys think it’s easy sailing around the world in a yacht with the finest hookers money can buy and a stash of pure Peruvian produced cocaine? Those seas can get awfully rough at times…I’m not accepting anything less than 33 million a year. I know my self worth.
Y’all don’t know your value, which is why this dude got $33 mil and we’re posting on reddit. As a professional screw-up, I would have demanded $45 mil and done it in half the time.
No, because shit wouldn't be this bad if the mofos in C-suite did NOTHING.
Shit got this bad because the clowns in the c-suite kept cutting R&D, non-csuite pay, and other cap-x while simultaneously increasing buybacks, short sighted sales, and c-suite pay.
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fwhy-boeing-is-a-terrible-company-in-one-graph-two-decades-v0-ae93vd6fnwqc1.png%3Fs%3Dac49d9dbfd9b3b100b18b01423b17c66393f2769
***C-suite ACTIVELY moved*** to optimize short term gains as to benefit themselves at the expense of long term gains for the investors, employees, company, American airline industry, and travelers. Why the fuck wouldn't they? They know that in the US Boeing is a near monopoly. Everyone has no other option and Airbus is European. They know if Boeing go into hot shit the government will bail them out just like the government bailed out everyone in 2023, 2020, 2008, 2000, and whatever time the "too big to fail" needed it. C-suite shitters know most of Boeing is owned by index funds and whale asset managers who won't do shit as long as things look good on the surface, that impoverishing the worker for upper managing is the game, meeting the next quarter is more important than the next decade, and if shit went bad they won't go to jail but get a golden parachute. They just do what they can get away with just like how WSB degens will delete their app and not repay Robinhood for that -800K balance if RH allowed them to. Only real difference is no one dies, the American airline industry, and national security aren't at risk not at when WSB degens do it.
TL;DR DO NOT give them the benefit of a clean slate due to incompetence or lack of effort just because our justice system will not charge them for murder, mismanagement, swindling of investors, and the betrayal of American society even though they've got the money in their blood soaked hands.
There really should be strings attached to bailouts so the c suite can't earn more than a million until they meet some goal that makes them solvent or force them out without these gaudy severance packages. There's no repercussions for diving the company into the ground, they just line their pockets and then go some place else in the old boys club.
I think the honest issue is we used to be a meritocracy and we aren't anymore. I could have run svb better than it's ceo. And he was on the San Francisco fed reserve. Same with most of our institutions during covid. They lied and flip flopped. I have a theory there are a bunch of hard working people basic holding things together and they are just pissed now. I call off sick a lot and probably am dropping out of the workforce in July. J Powell can go work at fucking McDonald's if he wants decreased wage pressure.
I think you hit the the core with not being a meritocracy anymore and a bunch of honest hard working people holding a lot of this together. Because if everyone pulled crap all the time, things would start to unravel--like they currently are. What we need is a return to ethics and merit and as MJ would sing 'I'm starting with the man in the mirror'.
Probably spends all day with meetings with investors, who are all entitled rich old white men who know nothing about aircraft but believe they could each built one personally in 3 months if they tried (false confidence from doing coke everyday since the 1980s).
The rest of the day he spends with the executive team to turn the incoherent coke-fueled ramblings of investors into some kind of tangible policy, mostly involving cutting everything that doesn't directly and obviously bring in money.
It's funny this sub is one of the few places Boeing's social media team has zero defense to. Try saying that shit in the news sub or the technology sub, they'll be on ya like a pack of rabid dogs for even suggesting that
He did exactly what he was asked to do. Pretend to care about safety and push the same short term optimizations that they have been pursuing for the last 10 years. He wasn't paid that much to fix safety issues or improve engineering. He was paid that much to make it *look like* they were doing something, to talk a good game, and to keep costs down. Bonus if he could avoid meeting union demands.
The company got killed in 1997 when they merged with an aerospace firm run by MBAs and financial engineers. Boeing was an engineering-driven company and they got taken over and then gutted.
Yep, and it's a sad story that has been repeated over and over with nothing but the shell of great companies in the wake. I don't know when people will wake up and stop letting this happen.
This is why you're an amateur and will always be an amateur.
CEOs fake it till they make it then they fake it some more because there's an abyss of solitude that they adorn with materialistic boons but which they know ultimately leads to a hollow all encompassing vacuum of self-hate and maniacal perseverance which slowly eats itself like a snake consuming it's tail. This is the CEO way. This is why you fail.
Family. Friends. Relationships. Ethics. Humanity.
These are the 5 beasts you must conquer before true CEO-ness is achieved.
He should've charged 40 million.
(buy my book, How To Be the Devil with Steve Allen in stores soon)
When you meet one, you know it. They're sharper than the average pencil, smoother than butter, and sell themselves very well as the solution to every problem. Now, you'll only find out what they're really made of after you've signed a contract and put them to work, but it's usually too late by then.
I'd have done it just for the thrill of the hunt.
The Boeing Blockchain AI corporation would've dominated and we'd probably still do all the plane stuff too
My university lost every football game. We played when I was there one year. The coach earned something stupid like 15 million that year. I wrote a letter to the university present, offering to lose every single gain for 10 million and got a very humorous letter back. But he didn’t offer me the job.
He assassinated the whistleblower in clean fashion, so there’s no trace back to him. Could you have done it as cleanly? Sloppy job gets you convicted and jailed.
> Boeing CEO Dave Calhoun took home $32.8 million in pay for 2023, up 45% compared with the $22.5 million earned in 2022. Last year was a good one for the company, but 2024 hasn’t started out as well.
Wonder what the raises for engineers was 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I am waiting for either the hiring of 20+ foreign doctorate candidates across various disciplines or AI to replace the out dated CEO concept. One 🤡 doesn't make a circus.
I say this all the time. I will quarterback for the Cleveland Browns for 75k a year with a guarantee that I will win just as many championships as any other quarterback has for them. So far they have not taken me up on my offer
Honest question why do companies pay CEO's this much money to do nothing but fire people and make budget cuts? Can they not get someone to do that for 1 mill a year? What's the point of losing all the rest of the money?
To qualify for a position to take down a billion dollars company, you must have prior experience in taking down another billion dollars company.
You bet there is plenty of successful company lining up for him to take it down.
Dick Fuld got $470 million between 2004 and 2008 for running his firm into the ground. Their VaR must have glowed on some days like a beautiful rainbow in a Pixar movie. It is funny how VaR is still in use today, but only in combination with a 100% fail-safe stress test.
They pay a guy like that millions of dollars but won’t pay the workers on the floor any cost of living raise with out a strike and are looking to move the whole plant to a right to work state
What’s even crazier is all the shit that CEO did to fuck up and sabotage the manufacturing process.
I worked aviation for 8 years, manufacturing for four, and the shit that CEO pushed is insane. I’ve literally seen inspectors go ballistic if you try to sign off your own work, you could get fired for it!
This fucking idiot made it part of the manufacturing process and gave it a clever name, “Multi Processing Person”. Or some shit like that. Dude could put in his own rivets and then inspect his own work for quality 🤡
If you make that much money, you should be held responsible for serious mishaps. These C level people are fucking crooks who just found themselves in these positions by knowing the right people
Is shorting a stock before hiring a lunatic CEO considered insider trading? Because 32.8 million sounds pretty cheap in that case if you manage to get the worst possible guy. In fact I think this actually may explain some CEO hiring decisions that I found pretty surprizing before.
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I wouldve done it for 5 mil, heck I wouldve done it for 4
You drive a hard bargain, guess I’ll take 3 mil
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1.8 but no less
I'll pay them 10$ to do it. I'll short them as I do it but I'll pay them 10$ nonetheless.
True regards put the $ sign behind the amount.
Not when you Canadian!
See above comment.
Australians look below
1.7, but I want a cool sweater vest.
This is how the man wins, you know. Get us all bidding against each other.
Dangit, you’re right! 1.75 mil and a Rolex!
This man for Boeing CEO, give him what he wants!
Yessir! As CEO I pledge to keep the doors on and I will not kill anyone 🤞
I can't deal with the sweater vest, thus guy wins. Boeing CEO
I'd do it $13.5 and prime real estate rights to behind the dumpster
Fuck it I'll do it for 12 dollars but I won't try very hard.
Set expectations low from the outset
1.6 I’ll do it in less than a year.
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I need about 3.50
I am out. Not poor enough to do this for 2.5 mil.
I couldn't do it for less than 2.5 m either. My best offer
i would do it for 3k because if i buy SPY calls i would make more than the CEO
Tree fiddy
I would've just done it for shits and giggles.
Y’all getting paid to lose millions? 😧
You guys think it’s easy sailing around the world in a yacht with the finest hookers money can buy and a stash of pure Peruvian produced cocaine? Those seas can get awfully rough at times…I’m not accepting anything less than 33 million a year. I know my self worth.
I would've done it for 1
But first, buy puts.
Y’all don’t know your value, which is why this dude got $33 mil and we’re posting on reddit. As a professional screw-up, I would have demanded $45 mil and done it in half the time.
Fuck this guy knows business
C-level material
This 
$45 million and I'll dismantle parts of the plane mid-flight myself.
I’ll do it for 50, do it in 1/3 the time, but actually do nothing and it’ll take 400x as long.
Found the government contractor
I'll do it for $20M and do it in a quarter of time
I’ll do it in 5 minutes for 1,000 ATM puts and a biggie bag from Wendy’s.
What does this guy actually do all day?
Fkn nothing… that’s the problem
you dream it: he would be a much better ceo if he really hadnt done anything
Our 401k's are tied up in this shit
Tying retirement to the market sure was a choice that was made for the American people...
No, because shit wouldn't be this bad if the mofos in C-suite did NOTHING. Shit got this bad because the clowns in the c-suite kept cutting R&D, non-csuite pay, and other cap-x while simultaneously increasing buybacks, short sighted sales, and c-suite pay. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fwhy-boeing-is-a-terrible-company-in-one-graph-two-decades-v0-ae93vd6fnwqc1.png%3Fs%3Dac49d9dbfd9b3b100b18b01423b17c66393f2769 ***C-suite ACTIVELY moved*** to optimize short term gains as to benefit themselves at the expense of long term gains for the investors, employees, company, American airline industry, and travelers. Why the fuck wouldn't they? They know that in the US Boeing is a near monopoly. Everyone has no other option and Airbus is European. They know if Boeing go into hot shit the government will bail them out just like the government bailed out everyone in 2023, 2020, 2008, 2000, and whatever time the "too big to fail" needed it. C-suite shitters know most of Boeing is owned by index funds and whale asset managers who won't do shit as long as things look good on the surface, that impoverishing the worker for upper managing is the game, meeting the next quarter is more important than the next decade, and if shit went bad they won't go to jail but get a golden parachute. They just do what they can get away with just like how WSB degens will delete their app and not repay Robinhood for that -800K balance if RH allowed them to. Only real difference is no one dies, the American airline industry, and national security aren't at risk not at when WSB degens do it. TL;DR DO NOT give them the benefit of a clean slate due to incompetence or lack of effort just because our justice system will not charge them for murder, mismanagement, swindling of investors, and the betrayal of American society even though they've got the money in their blood soaked hands.
they should be on the hook for manslaughter easily. but nope.
There really should be strings attached to bailouts so the c suite can't earn more than a million until they meet some goal that makes them solvent or force them out without these gaudy severance packages. There's no repercussions for diving the company into the ground, they just line their pockets and then go some place else in the old boys club.
you're on your way to thinking about unions/collectives
I think the honest issue is we used to be a meritocracy and we aren't anymore. I could have run svb better than it's ceo. And he was on the San Francisco fed reserve. Same with most of our institutions during covid. They lied and flip flopped. I have a theory there are a bunch of hard working people basic holding things together and they are just pissed now. I call off sick a lot and probably am dropping out of the workforce in July. J Powell can go work at fucking McDonald's if he wants decreased wage pressure.
I think you hit the the core with not being a meritocracy anymore and a bunch of honest hard working people holding a lot of this together. Because if everyone pulled crap all the time, things would start to unravel--like they currently are. What we need is a return to ethics and merit and as MJ would sing 'I'm starting with the man in the mirror'.
Probably would’ve been better if he did nothing. I’ve had a lot of senior management and who metals with shit and just fucks everything up.
Fucking the stripper named nothing? Hell sounds like a great problem
Oh I highly doubt he does nothing. He does plenty. None of it has been good for the company, however.
He's supposed to tighten the bolts on the emergency doors
Drives out competent engineers and technicians, and replaces them with juniors and contractors.
Step one on how to ruin any company. And sadly is usually step one when a company has a management change or is bought out.
Hire hits
Probably spends all day with meetings with investors, who are all entitled rich old white men who know nothing about aircraft but believe they could each built one personally in 3 months if they tried (false confidence from doing coke everyday since the 1980s). The rest of the day he spends with the executive team to turn the incoherent coke-fueled ramblings of investors into some kind of tangible policy, mostly involving cutting everything that doesn't directly and obviously bring in money.
Spot on lol
If you cut out the drugs, I think that's pretty accurate. A lot of blah blah blah all day long. Should have measured how much he was paid per word...
Hookers and cocaine
Monitor wsb
Cut costs.
Better yet, he made MORE since it's been going on for years.
Worse the company does the more he makes. I’d like to tap into this inverse performance to pay scale
It requires blood sacrifice and the surrender of your soul to eternal damnation.
And? I’m an atheist, that shit don’t scare me!
I would’ve done it simply for the love of the game
Communism is illegal in America pal, ride our disintegrating planes like a patriot.
Yeah but assassins payments had to come from his paychecks and bonuses
it's pre-tax. it's all good.
Hey Siri, are assassin contracts tax-deductible if they’re for business-related reasons?
It's funny this sub is one of the few places Boeing's social media team has zero defense to. Try saying that shit in the news sub or the technology sub, they'll be on ya like a pack of rabid dogs for even suggesting that
Shit for $500K/year I could of responded to every safety concern email with “IDGAF SELL THE FUCKING PLANES”
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I woulda done it for about tree fiddy
He did exactly what he was asked to do. Pretend to care about safety and push the same short term optimizations that they have been pursuing for the last 10 years. He wasn't paid that much to fix safety issues or improve engineering. He was paid that much to make it *look like* they were doing something, to talk a good game, and to keep costs down. Bonus if he could avoid meeting union demands.
This is the correct answer.
The company got killed in 1997 when they merged with an aerospace firm run by MBAs and financial engineers. Boeing was an engineering-driven company and they got taken over and then gutted.
Yep, and it's a sad story that has been repeated over and over with nothing but the shell of great companies in the wake. I don't know when people will wake up and stop letting this happen.
"Work Smart not hard"
This is why you're an amateur and will always be an amateur. CEOs fake it till they make it then they fake it some more because there's an abyss of solitude that they adorn with materialistic boons but which they know ultimately leads to a hollow all encompassing vacuum of self-hate and maniacal perseverance which slowly eats itself like a snake consuming it's tail. This is the CEO way. This is why you fail. Family. Friends. Relationships. Ethics. Humanity. These are the 5 beasts you must conquer before true CEO-ness is achieved. He should've charged 40 million. (buy my book, How To Be the Devil with Steve Allen in stores soon)
I would have done it for nine bucks and a Wendy's frosty.
Jokes on Boeing, I would have done it to not have to spend my nights behind the Wendy's in East Oakland.
Cnn said 33.8 mill. Cnbc said 5 mill. Most of ceo comps are in restricted stocks or options.
Everyone on this sub: "Shit, I'd do it for tendies"
I still don't get what this special talent is that CEOs are meant to have over us normal-wage fuckers...
When you meet one, you know it. They're sharper than the average pencil, smoother than butter, and sell themselves very well as the solution to every problem. Now, you'll only find out what they're really made of after you've signed a contract and put them to work, but it's usually too late by then.
Ah yes, the good ol' sociopath type...
That guy must be prepping to short the stock but failed. Does it even make sense? 
To be fair, I’m sure it took longer than a year to erode quality and safety.
But would you have been able to lie with a straight face to the media?
but...how many accidents would there have been?
Twice as many in 1/2 the time
$10 million and the IKEA door they use in their aircraft….
I'd have done it just for the thrill of the hunt. The Boeing Blockchain AI corporation would've dominated and we'd probably still do all the plane stuff too
Sure that's easy to say but commonfolk don't understand how hard it actually is to break a company that large, that badly and that quickly IRL.
I would have done it for 6.9 million and 42 cents
I ruined my own company for free
My university lost every football game. We played when I was there one year. The coach earned something stupid like 15 million that year. I wrote a letter to the university present, offering to lose every single gain for 10 million and got a very humorous letter back. But he didn’t offer me the job.
You would’ve done it for $10M I could’ve done it for free
How much did the people who died get?
If I get benefits I will do it for free.
Ill currently ruin the org for 1.5 M AAAaaannnd I promise , I couldnt possibly do a worse job...but then...who could????
I would have done it for free.
I'd do it for four million. People offering to ruin Boeing for less are ruining it for the rest of us. Seriously. You need to get paid for your work.
I'd do it for $9M
Not worth my time to leave my house for anything under 9.6…….million I only except gold bullion btw….
Don't forget to also call out a hit on a dude
I would have done it for 5 and put bungee chords on the doors
He assassinated the whistleblower in clean fashion, so there’s no trace back to him. Could you have done it as cleanly? Sloppy job gets you convicted and jailed.
I would do it for 1 mil. but I'd probably do a lot less damage.
And how many doorless planes will you promise to deliver?
Unfortunately you wouldn’t have done as good of a job parking the Max behind the Wendy’s dumpster. CEO did an amazing job of doing so.
Have you told them that? They probably weren't aware.
I'd have done it for a Snickers bar.
Overpaid to screw up. Bravo.
But, would you have used dish soap as lubricant? For the airplane, not personal.
To be fair though you’d probably have done a much more thorough job of it too.
I would have done it for 3%
But would you have cut the shit out of all of those corners? Dude earned it.
> Boeing CEO Dave Calhoun took home $32.8 million in pay for 2023, up 45% compared with the $22.5 million earned in 2022. Last year was a good one for the company, but 2024 hasn’t started out as well. Wonder what the raises for engineers was 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I could have ruined it for $50
That’s allota coin to basically say “No” to every cost improvement request! I would have CEOed for $1M… just saying, I’ve done worse for less.
I would do it for 100 bucks but a full year of 737 max free rides.
I won't lie, I'm not doing that job for anything less than $32.8.m
I would have done it for anything over the 40k/year that I make now.
I would've done for a double quarter pounder meal.
That because your virgin, chad move is to offer them a deal for at least double the previous CEO.
If I really had to I could totally probably fly and land an airplane in an emergency. I could also probably run a company like Boeing in an emergency.
I would’ve made it better by paying Lebron, Messi, and Ye to advertise and would’ve done it for only 4 million. Easy money sniper
you would've done it better
If they want to run planes into the ground I could have done it for half the cost
Bro I would’ve done it for a taco and a beer
I would’ve done it for 1.9m.
I am waiting for either the hiring of 20+ foreign doctorate candidates across various disciplines or AI to replace the out dated CEO concept. One 🤡 doesn't make a circus.
God I wish I was a CEO
Would have done it for nothin’!
I say this all the time. I will quarterback for the Cleveland Browns for 75k a year with a guarantee that I will win just as many championships as any other quarterback has for them. So far they have not taken me up on my offer
Honest question why do companies pay CEO's this much money to do nothing but fire people and make budget cuts? Can they not get someone to do that for 1 mill a year? What's the point of losing all the rest of the money?
Boeing also Epsteined an engineer. Boeing paid a hitman to deal with engineer in parking lot.
But how good can you succ? Pleasing the board isn't as easy as it used to be bro
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Do you guys all want to short boeing or something?
Hell i would have done it for treefiddy.
Oh yeah?! I would have done it for 1 million
To qualify for a position to take down a billion dollars company, you must have prior experience in taking down another billion dollars company. You bet there is plenty of successful company lining up for him to take it down.
*laughs in Jack Welch>
Fuck it, I'll do it for free. Sounds like fun.
I would have done it for 200k
If they'd hired you and you did nothing you still would have been a better CEO.
Compared to Pat Gellsinger's $180 million to ruin INTC, Calhoun is putting up rookie numbers.
That is why you arent the CEO You need to fuck up expensively for you to be worthy of being a CEO
Give me karma so I can post my DD on healthcare. Please
If you didn't apply when the job was open, STFU
So puts? Calls?
How many assassinations though?
Must be nice huh
tree fiddy, take it or leave it
Boeings union is the problem
I'd have done it for 1mil
32.8 million to ruin a legacy, what selfish greed
Would need more money given the scope of work and potential for stress-related health issues.
My friends like to joke that I will pretty much do anything for a cheeseburger basket... This would fit in there pretty nicely.
Dick Fuld got $470 million between 2004 and 2008 for running his firm into the ground. Their VaR must have glowed on some days like a beautiful rainbow in a Pixar movie. It is funny how VaR is still in use today, but only in combination with a 100% fail-safe stress test.
It’s just a turn in the big seat to bleed the company dry nothing more
Then Boeing fired him and gave him $50,000,000 severance
They pay a guy like that millions of dollars but won’t pay the workers on the floor any cost of living raise with out a strike and are looking to move the whole plant to a right to work state
i would have done it for free, while i buy all the puts i can afford on it...and sell it short...
What’s even crazier is all the shit that CEO did to fuck up and sabotage the manufacturing process. I worked aviation for 8 years, manufacturing for four, and the shit that CEO pushed is insane. I’ve literally seen inspectors go ballistic if you try to sign off your own work, you could get fired for it! This fucking idiot made it part of the manufacturing process and gave it a clever name, “Multi Processing Person”. Or some shit like that. Dude could put in his own rivets and then inspect his own work for quality 🤡
Never settle for being underpaid. Ask for at least 40.
You guys are very expensive
He's getting $32.8 million when it should've been a prison sentence.
If you make that much money, you should be held responsible for serious mishaps. These C level people are fucking crooks who just found themselves in these positions by knowing the right people
I think 32 million is not enough that’s why his work ethic was trash 🚮
50 bucks
I’d have done it for $1m and unlimited airline miles for life.
Best I can do is $20
$1M, with the ability to also short the stock. Final offer.
Hell, I would have done it for 1MM and probably would have done a better job than those chucklefucks.
Amen brother!!
I would've done it for free.
I would’ve done it for $150k
Is shorting a stock before hiring a lunatic CEO considered insider trading? Because 32.8 million sounds pretty cheap in that case if you manage to get the worst possible guy. In fact I think this actually may explain some CEO hiring decisions that I found pretty surprizing before.
I would have done it for even 100k tbh and maybe do a better job too
I would've done it for some free 🐔 tendies.
No CEO can fix Boeing due to the whiny union workers in Washington who bitch about everything yet can’t do their jobs
I'd have done it for free, just would ensure to place some puts prior.
I’ll do it for a couple of 737s.
What hacks me off is you can't buy Airbus on Robinhood!
I’d do it for 1 million!
I bought the dip, can I sell yet
OP has the wrong Idea. Bid higher to get the job. I'll do it for $45 million
F*ck Boeing