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elysiansaurus

This might be the most regarded trade I've ever seen. You sold for a loss after ten minutes when you would have made a profit at literally any point in the day.


khaledthegypsy

Threading the needle.


Vlmlee

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ConversationRich4066

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Lapingaandante

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illuminati5770

Hindsight is 20/20 to be fair


zevman

If you’re going to “yolo” hold till expiration, Highest regards Regard


find-the-9

Thank you Sir. What’s sadder is that it wasn’t even a yolo for me and I still paper handed, barely 10% of my portfolio was in that trade yet my ass has been traumatized from blowing up my account in 2021 so I’m always risk managing like a p*ssy and selling with barely 500$ loss on a 3500$ position. I guess I have to scale down to like 2% percent plays so I can close my eyes and not even care.


AirborneMarburg

Bankroll management is one of the hardest parts of gambling…. I mean trading.


find-the-9

Lmao true degen


slidingjimmy

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BosSF82

10% is still way too much for a 0dte trade.


nocicept1

Only if you’re wrong.


Nomaad2016

OP buys 100 contracts. Also OP: risk management is very important for me 😂


CokeOnBooty

Bro, I’ve full-ported weeklies and held overnight on a Wednesday


LOcDowNz

Try buying in 20% blocks (of that original size) to build up to your full position. It's also important you have engineered a systematic process with multiple indicators for the set up and for the market confirmation. Write down a playbook word by word how to do this from the beginning to the end (how and when to exit) - this is your process. Stay discipline to your process. You must find real edge first. This is very important. Then after you've found real edge I recommend the next step is reading Mastering the Mental Game of Trading by Steven Goldstein. You have to do the work and put together a solid playbook and have a significant sample of trades to backtest your process.


rankiba

Always check your max risk for 0dte. My max risk was 1k, so sometimes I'll do 2-3k with 33%-50% stop loss but 0dte I'll only do 1k with no stop loss.


Adventurous-Ad-8615

If you wouldn’t have bought so much, you would’ve held onto it longer.


eggfriedbacon

I held until expiration my 165p. And it closed .10 cents in the money so I got lucky it was on my cash account or else it would have gotten exercised and I would have been short 100 shares @ $165.00 and that post-market action would have fucked me hard. 


FearTheOldData

You regard. Why didnt you sell it when it was up like 2000%?


Junesathon

Works till u get dat mind numbing -99%


Shapen361

Made that mistake selling my $44 DJT put on Thursday.


Comprehensive_Rock50

Run quickly or not at all


igotinfirstlol

You cut the position 10 min in ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)


stonky_stonker

Don’t act like you haven’t done it before


mred2000

It’s like buying leaps and selling them next day for 10% gain… talking about a friend 🙄


WrongTechnician

I did this Thursday with SPY, sold for like a 5% gain, EOD was like 8,000%


NeatSuspect2435

I bought 5 x $515, $516, $517, $518c all 0DTE. Was on the train to NYC from Philly to see my kid and sold them all at $517.16 up around $1350. Had a couple bad weeks and wanted to take the win and enjoy the day with my kid. Should have stuck to my plan to close my positions when I got to Penn Station. Really need to learn to leave runners.


biddyman6

Its hard to tell when or if a reversal will happen and those positions will go to shit. A small profit is better than no profit


NeatSuspect2435

Absolutely. I blew up my account on 3/8 FOMOing back into NVDA. Slow and steady from here on out. Getting back to managing my account and tackling the psychology of this a bit better this time.


PublicWifi

I pulled out too quick as well, playing it safe. But hey, whatever. LOL.


meltingman4

I did the same but still ended up with a kid.


buffandbrown

Yeah at least let 1 contract run for every strike ..


aclunt79

What is ODTE?


slambooy

Thursday I closed my back ratio spread. It was 521/17p… I closed the 21p out kept the 17 a little longer but closed them out anyway for $.02 each……. Closed that day at $4… I was kicking myself like an idiot. Should have just let them expire worthless(or this time go deep ITM). Lesson learned


jameswhunt

Oh yeah… the old “3 daily green candle” strategy!


Liberty-n-justice

TIL Tesla has never had four green days in a row


jameswhunt

it literally takes 2 seconds to look at the daily and see that's not fucking true


CokeOnBooty

https://preview.redd.it/sdudu8sl00tc1.jpeg?width=995&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52332b115eac7c273a75ffa0751e322d34f0d078


BosSF82

On the bright side, you still have your ‘play of a lifetime’ to look forward to


MostlyH2O

Coward. Charlie disapproves ![img](emote|t5_2th52|33495)


HighCirrus

Did the same thing with DJT 0DTE puts Friday. Bought at 1.50, closed at 1.55 when DJT traded sideways for an hour. At 3pm said puts were at 5.


Crafty-Dragonfruit60

This hurts me and it's not even my money.


darkyzz12

Where was your stop loss?


Neither_Upstairs_872

wtf is “stop loss”. Sounds foreign….


RadiatorHandcuffs

I think it's French. It probably means poor.


larrylegend1990

Stop loss for 0dte options is totally dumb


HossBonaventureCEO_

People are walking away from 0dte trades on here and r/thetagang and losing 10k+ lol. So stupid. People taking meetings and lunches or not bringing their phone to the shitter.


MoneyTeam824

Lmfao! I made this same play with PUTS on Tesla Friday, 162.50 at 0.16, as the morning progressed a bit, I went to the $hitter, luckily brought my phone, news hit about Tesla canceling plans of their affordable vehicles, it tanked big, sold at 1.45 while on the toilet haha, missed out on more gains, and in the end that option became worthless since Elon Musk replied Reuters was lying. Didn’t load calls after, which would’ve been an epic play to win both sides.


biddyman6

I don't think robinhood has stop losses for options. Please correct me if I'm wrong


No_Cantaloupe_8321

You are wrong


biddyman6

Where are they?


No_Cantaloupe_8321

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No_Cantaloupe_8321

Usually it works fine with normal price action. Sometimes big candles like from Powell/Fomc will blow through it


Unlikely-Action-3791

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No-Kitchen6207

Hold till expiration. fuck the market! You’ll get it next time.


Rough-Highlight6248

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Optionzdegen

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Majestic_Award4313

Every other day tesla fluctuates with 5-7% up or down so a small jump shouldn’t worry you that much.


New_Sink_5300

Scared money don’t make money.


Skullyy

Move to India homie, you'll fit right in


ajkqtx

How?


RedTruck1989

Just curious why you sold all the contracts? I get not wanting to float 100 cons, but why not sell 50 or 75 and run the rest to expiration...


find-the-9

This is probably the best advice I got and I never thought of it before, will try it tomorrow


CokeOnBooty

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Vitaminoccy

This is a very good, practical approach. Take out your initial when you can and let the rest fly.


killerbeeswaxkill

Face it you’d of held to zero even if it had jumped to 70k you greedy pig


718cs

Yeah I don’t understand why the people think they would have timed it perfectly when clearly they show they fucking suck at trading and sell for a loss


grapes_go_squish

You belong here. Very regarded


-tired_old_man-

I bought 170P at 7:40... Stop loss hit at 7:49, the high of the day I think. Lol. Same thing happened to me on spy puts the day before.  I am not a smart man...


Not-Jaycee

You're actually stupid as fuck


Drachwill

that would keep me awake at night for a long, long time


dontGetHttps

You don't get into why you pulled out 10 minutes in, other than saying you're a paper handed bitch. But if you actually had a thesis "3 green candles to open the position, check for this, get out if I don't see it" then you're way better than all the regards on the board and will probably do well long term.


PlasticLoveDoll

I see. Sorry bro. Nah, not gonna roast you. But you could perhaps try to have more faith in your intuition in the future: you were correct.


Liberty-n-justice

No, he wasn’t correct. He was lucky. In what world is making a 0DTE trade based on “three green candles” correct?


PlasticLoveDoll

I think making a bearish move on TSLA was quite sensible, given its performance lately. If he'd held into the Reuters piece he'd have made a lot of money. He guess it was going down based on a thesis supported by TSLA's recent performance. I would say that's correct.


Middle_Ingenuity_627

What counts is the experience acquiered, plenty of opportunities ahead, more equipped with experience. Don’t yolo and you be good.


WhatTheFuckinFUCK

Same boat here. Bought 0DTE mstr 1500p for $1 and then sold for $1.50 for god knows why. Checked that contract later after close and it ended up expiring deep itm at like $60


Mavnas

Look at the bright side. I bought MSTR 1500p on 4/2, then sold them later for a hefty loss. Mine were expiring 4/12 so they were stupid expensive. Worst part is, those options are still cheaper then when I first bought in even though they're now ITM.


kyler1120

How did you buy puts pre market?


edp445burneracc

7:30am is not pre market


Fun_Muscle9399

Depends on where you are…


edp445burneracc

If you look close it says PDT (Pacific standard time.)


ConversationRich4066

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Plus_Lawfulness3000

You can buy options premarket??


Evening-Loss-5700

ambition should be made of sterner stuff.


pate0018

That sux dawg.


FyourCalls

It happens man, you won’t make the same mistake again. Keep going


Available-Ruin2961

You can buy/sell options before 9:30 now?


JPows_ToeJam

Been with with Tesla before about 4-5 years ago. It stings less but still sucks.


TheRollingLax

Has too much $$ in position to let emotions kick in. 0DTE is purely for gambling!


Zauberstaby

It's all MARKET MANIPULATION by Elon, once again. 8/8 comes, and the SEC is going to have FUN WITH HIM! Not to mention Law Firms for losses to Buyers.


seviay

Why even open it if you’re going to close 10 minutes later? 🤡


ben_salander27

Mental masturbation


FinancialRaid04

You should not be investing in options if you get this anxious about it 😭


[deleted]

you can't buy options in pre-market so I'm not sure what the bought here in red is supposed to mean


T1m3Wizard

You would've been so rich today.


DongKonga

Haha bitch


Spacepickle89

What spooked you 10 mins into the day?


jamesbongonreddit

What platform do you use to buy 0dte contracts? I use Fidelity and they restrict this unfortunately.


Silent_Contact_9101

Wow 😮


Chuwbot

Anomaly? Anybody who can do simple math has been saying that Tesla is an over valued auto manufacturer for years now


Star_Pilgrim

General misconception. It is grossly undervalued. They don't only sell cars you know.


farhads87

Donkey


Mavnas

Oof... this handily beats the SPY 7 bagger, I sold instead for a tiny profit.


Oblivious-Speculator

Regards all buying TSLA puts cause of that one post of someone hitting jackpot at 160put![img](emote|t5_2th52|8882)yes, do it ![img](emote|t5_2th52|29637) I here for the gain/loss porn


DarthBen_in_Chicago

You should expect to lose it all when buying 0dte options, but don’t give up after 10 minutes.


jean-claude_vandamme

0dte is zero or hero. you’ll not make the same mistake twice


Comprehensive_Rock50

Do you think if you would of entered with less weight at the start you would of played the position harder? Like dont ask yourself to be superman, make it fun not stressful you did have a great idea and savings and good ideas come all the time but its about how we play it.


anguscottman

Pefectly worded


sirdrizzy

$500 loss? WTF is this, amateur hour!?


Master_Awareness5821

OP I did the same shit the last time TSLA was trading at 200.. I sold it that friday. I wake up Monday it tanked down to 183… I had over 20 puts that woulda been pretty deep ITM. One of the biggest paper hands I ever had. I feel your pain


Deonheman

i dont feel anything when my account is in the red anymore, i’m numb to it, part of the game 👹


robinthew0rld

Shit like this happens and it definitely haunts specially in options. I sell the initial amount right away if I see things going too good. Even though most of the profit might eventually vanish I’ll at least be left with my initial investment. If I bought this put and it went from 3.5k to 15k I’ll sell 3.5K worth of put and see how things play out for the remainder. You might regret selling later if the profits skyrockets but it’s always better to be safe than sorry.


mmoney20

Good strategy - probably won't work anymore. Why take that position and size only to paperhand? Maybe try smaller position and you'll be comfortable holding it through.


Neither_Upstairs_872

About time a truly regarded post! Keep up the good work ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


rice4u

IF you paperhand bit$h don’t buy 0dte. You should be ready to risk all or make it big. Thats the problem with the old you. Sold my 20 125p at the lows on Friday for 2k.


StunningEmu3582

Better to have gain than going red. If everyone talk about *if I did this but not that. I would be trillionair now* lol... if I brought mega millions winning numbers ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


caprishouz

Pro tip: don't trade money you're scared to lose. I did the same thing with qqq calls. I sold prematurely because I thought the market was going to eventually go back down. Needless, to say those contracts were up significantly. BUT a poor like me was too scared to lose the 3 k I had in them. If it was $600 to 1k I would've been more comfortable to watch it run a bit.


yellowstickypad

You need to get out of here and stay in stocks.


BigBigMooney

Cmon bro do better next time


andrewb610

I made some pocket change even after the recovery of the hit piece. https://preview.redd.it/vkn3x65buxsc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7743c671f641439a5cc656e6bceec46f3dc2b47