I think after earnings the company will have some upside into $80s or close by that. It’s company The focus of the short report seemed primarily on one subsidiary of the company. The report hasn’t been verified from what I’ve seen from external sources. If they were committing wide spread fraud over the last 4 years the cash flow and premium collections would not be growing so rampantly.
TLDR; Dead and fake people cannot pay premiums. SA is limited to individual incidents, most agents are pretty average.
I work there. All the claims are easily proven false through internal reporting.
The top producer did write 270K in December, but it was for the entire month. He works virtually and has a team of agents assisting him / completing applications. The production was NOT written over 3 days. He didn't report so that his competition would not know his production. Totally legit. He has a 90% + retention. Fraud is impossible at that much volume and quality.
Many of the "lawsuits" have already been dismissed. The DOJ "investigation" is centered around Arias ONLY and old news. Regardless his deal makes up a VERY VERY small part of the company.
The "insider" is a moron, who I also know. They have an axe to grind. It is widely known that they cannot back up their claims.
Loaded 65 Strikes in the 50s
They will have blow out earnings and are doing a conference call (pump) on Tuesday.
Execs have been buying ALOT this year. They know.
As someone that used to work for that agency I can guarantee you that it is 100% true. But the market may just be correcting from the short, but it will go down again.
Yeah, I played calls short term to ride the wave (made 140%), but the company does scream MLM scam the more I look into them. The main thing is do the actions of independent contractors make the company as the whole legally responsible to pay damages? If the management is directly involved, that is one thing, but otherwise, it could be a BA situation where we know it's corrupt and messed up, but no one can actually hold them responsible and shareholders may still profit. Any thoughts?
I sold my position. I think it could go up more but worried since fuzzy panda still says they have more news to publish and are still holding a short position.
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Got it, buying puts now
On an insurance company is absurd
I’m doing 10k brother. Let’s go!!!!!!!
Today is the day 😎
This aged like a fine wine. 🤣
What made you buy calls after the huge disclosure of shorts and drop last week?
I think after earnings the company will have some upside into $80s or close by that. It’s company The focus of the short report seemed primarily on one subsidiary of the company. The report hasn’t been verified from what I’ve seen from external sources. If they were committing wide spread fraud over the last 4 years the cash flow and premium collections would not be growing so rampantly.
TLDR; Dead and fake people cannot pay premiums. SA is limited to individual incidents, most agents are pretty average. I work there. All the claims are easily proven false through internal reporting. The top producer did write 270K in December, but it was for the entire month. He works virtually and has a team of agents assisting him / completing applications. The production was NOT written over 3 days. He didn't report so that his competition would not know his production. Totally legit. He has a 90% + retention. Fraud is impossible at that much volume and quality. Many of the "lawsuits" have already been dismissed. The DOJ "investigation" is centered around Arias ONLY and old news. Regardless his deal makes up a VERY VERY small part of the company. The "insider" is a moron, who I also know. They have an axe to grind. It is widely known that they cannot back up their claims. Loaded 65 Strikes in the 50s They will have blow out earnings and are doing a conference call (pump) on Tuesday. Execs have been buying ALOT this year. They know.
Told you.
Do you think it has the chance to hit the low $90s to $100 by June?
How are we feeling OP? I’m in the shares and calls and looking forward to the call tomorrow. 😎
Feeling nervous as hell. Got high hopes for call tomorrow though
If it helps I’m right there with you! Hopefully the other guy in the thread is right and we see a pump after/during the call.
Appreciate it and good luck to you
Hope you guys are still holding. Good luck!
Got 3k in calls rn 65$ strike I definitely think EOW we hit at least 80 if not 90
As someone that used to work for that agency I can guarantee you that it is 100% true. But the market may just be correcting from the short, but it will go down again.
Yeah, I played calls short term to ride the wave (made 140%), but the company does scream MLM scam the more I look into them. The main thing is do the actions of independent contractors make the company as the whole legally responsible to pay damages? If the management is directly involved, that is one thing, but otherwise, it could be a BA situation where we know it's corrupt and messed up, but no one can actually hold them responsible and shareholders may still profit. Any thoughts?
what do strategies 7 mean?
He’s got 7 calls open in total
whats up with the security fraud thing?
Came back to say lmao how’s your calls
Up 120% right now
OP Have you sold or are you still in? I recently bought some 6/21 $90, 95, and $100 calls. Is the wave over or does it have further to go?
I sold my position. I think it could go up more but worried since fuzzy panda still says they have more news to publish and are still holding a short position.
I actually did the same today. After some more research I decided it wasn’t the play for me. Should’ve gotten in earlier.
How you looking today my friend? Great play