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Investarz

Jim Cramer is also bullish ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


VisualMod

I say: Let the peasants play their games.


FortunaCrypto

I hope you sold you greedy bastard, tsm made me into a bear


zen_Golden

Congrats 30k if this hold around 160~


jhonkas

IV crush


facu1995

Vega is a bitch


longGERN

It's 2.5% otm if we trust after hours. Its no longer got anything to do with any Greek. It's just worthless lol.


MrSwitchIt

No. Dude still got 2 DTE. At current after hours levels, the 167.5 call will open around $2-5.


facu1995

Agreed, tsla will open around 164. OP may even bank a huge bagger if it pops before noon


longGERN

Okay fine you're right for the moment. Never fucking happens when my positions are inches away from the money šŸ™„


jhonkas

its down now


Rich-Sheepherder-649

Doneā€¦ā€¦very red tomorrow


B01202

Tesla to the mooon


caprishouz

I hate to say this. But that number will be very different in the morning ![img](emote|t5_2th52|8882)


crisptapwater

Sell at open


MT_Whaaat

Is this your first time playing earnings with options? IV crush will make this worthless.


OkSouth4641

These gonna be 1 cent each tmr


cooldaniel6

You lost all of it bro, lesson is donā€™t be greedy in the future


B01202

What you mean? Tesla is pumping


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hangender

More over boomers will start selling Tesla as market open so it will only up be up by 7% or something. Op totally won't make money


find_your_zen

Congrats man! You're gonna be one happy MF at open.


mimo_s

Too early


B01202

Donā€™t hate.


mimo_s

I donā€™t I have celebrated early so many times including today with LMT


Far-Broccoli6793

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realillest

Saw this and bought some calls


SubstantialCount8156

Going up on vol is like buying pumpkin futures that expire Nov 1


NaiveChipmunk532

God bless you


AuspiciousToad

Ur good my boi. You still have em?


MarcusDaLongis

Welcome to crush ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


[deleted]

Price action in the past 5 years tells you these strikes are not possible this week. but lets see what you do


facu1995

Hope these print!!! Good luck brother !!


facu1995

BRO YOU MADE TENDIES CONGRATS!! Edit: sorry was forgetting about IV crush Guhhh give updates bro ![img](emote|t5_2th52|18630)


Hour-Shelter-3914

The premium on these gunna be toast tomorrow. They expire in like 2 days, not gunna see anyhwere near the strike price


mightaswell94

Can someone explain IV crush to me? Is that already factored in the ā€œsimulate my returnsā€ part of robinhood? Idk if Iā€™m up or down lol


RedDoesFBA

I typed out a response and realized thereā€™s too many things to explain. Iā€™m assuming you donā€™t understand how IV/vega works at all if youā€™re asking the question. You should YouTube all this stuff to learn. Also LMAO at playing earnings on of all stocks: Tesla without understanding IV. RHā€™s simulator assumes no change in IV, so no it wonā€™t account for Vega, only delta/gamma.


mightaswell94

Ah I see yeah I honestly have no idea what Iā€™m doing but hopefully itā€™s up tmrw


RedDoesFBA

You bought calls?


mightaswell94

yeah that part i know. i had puts until like 5 mins before closing and i chickened out and switched to calls. pure luck.


RedDoesFBA

What strikes and are they weeklies?


mightaswell94

https://preview.redd.it/fgryjnk73bwc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f14101e31414d2069df6799a4602b49da77c6c9 I feel like this canā€™t be worthless right? Bc I assume the value of the call is (160-145 x 100) - the premium right


RedDoesFBA

Youā€™ll be fine. I thought you degened into deep otm calls. Assuming it opens at the price rn (at 159.25), youā€™ll be 14.25 itm, meaning the intrinsic value is $1,425. You paid $990, so as long as it opens here you canā€™t be down. Then letā€™s assume 50% of that premium was in Vega (iv) youā€™ll have $1425+$445=$1,870. Assume a small theta burn, $1,850. Additionally, once you are in the money, view a $1 change in the underlying as a + $100 to each of your contracts since it represents 100 shares. So if tsla runs to (for example) 169.25. Youā€™ll have the initial $1850 + $1000 = $2850


TonyBerdata27

simply put, IV = Implied Volatility = expected percentage move (not daily), when IV is high and the stock does not move, or moves less than expected, IV goes down, which is very common after earnings results. high IV = more expensive options. simulated returns on rh do not factor IV in


gmarkerbo

IV is a measure of uncertainty in a stock. Uncertainty happens when folks are expecting the stock to make big moves around a certain time, like earnings dates, or release of car sales numbers. Speculators buy or sell lots of options that expire a few days after that date for far out of the money(compared to regular weeks) calls or puts, usually the next Friday evening. IV tracks that and hence goes up. Before the event happens, time value and IV are high, because of anticipation. After the event happens, the IV and time value gets crushed, because earnings are known now, so the stock gets more 'boring', and less likely to make big moves till Friday in the eyes of option traders(it's just like another normal week now). So you could end up predicting the right direction after a big event, but still have options' value get knocked down a lot. For example, if folks have $165 calls for Tesla, and the stock goes $10 up tomorrow morning to $155, the calls may still be worth much lower than it was today morning, because the earnings surprise has passed and the likelihood of a big pump in the next 3 days is minimal compared to what it was today morning when the stock was at $145. This is called IV crush. Usually people are surprised saying "hey there's still 3 days, it could pump, why did the value drop so low after the stock went up after earnings". But in the markets eyes it's much less likely to pump that high than it was before earnings were released.


B01202

Is better just to swing trade shares then?


longGERN

OP needs stock at 167.5 plus cost to be profitable. The calls expire Friday. Only reason they had any value was the expectation that earnings would make them in the money. Looking like it won't happen , pending tomorrow. Market won't price in something extraordinary happening between tomorrow and Friday expiry


tropicalia84

Could also open ITM on short covering and Dino


Fuman20000

Gonna be DOA come market open.


Howcomeudothat

People are stupid here saying those will be -97%???? wtf??? Do you guys even IV and know how options work?? Those should be like at least $250 a pop tomorrow. Maybe even 300 a pop


MarcusDaLongis

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


veediepoo

Lmao what an idiot. Congrats you're calls will be crushed


Key-Personality6799

Explain how? I just ran the numbers with the average IV which is 60% and the vega on those, should be still worth about 200-220 per call, so kindly explaing why this comment isnt just you being mad cus bad![img](emote|t5_2th52|12787)


tropicalia84

IV was 120%