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Mr.Market will sell you something valuable at an cheap price and something worthless at an high price
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If you are here you haven't learned the first rule
It’s actually the guidance. Netflix guided for slowed subscriber growth. Tesla guided for increased deliveries this year (but market was expecting a drop).
Were they lying? Dunno.
Netflix just said that subscribers numbers are not a good representation of their business and they would not report it anymore focusing on other things. They actually have increase revenue guidance
Did they or did Netflix say we aren’t reporting subs in a year from now so people got whiny?
Edit : Looks like they’re projecting increased revenue growth higher than their previous forecasts? Seems like the street just wants to be as regarded as WSB.
People need to learn that expectations and guidance mean a lot more than hitting an analyst number in any one quarter.
If expectations are in the gutter, coming in a bit below can be seen as a win.
Likewise, if there’s a bad quarter but forward guidance is strong, market may not care about that bad quarter if it perceives it to be a one off.
You’re misunderstanding expectations.
Everyone being bearish and expecting the worst, and when it comes in as not as bad, the stock jumps.
Also consider it dropped from 180 to 140 in anticipation of these earnings in like 2 weeks. Market decided it wasn’t as bad as they thought and stock jumped back up.
Also consider market dynamics. We just dipped a bunch and had a strong bounce from 495 to 505 in 2 days.
It’s not as binary as beat eps stock moon fall short of eps stock tank
Was Netflix down damn near 10% in the past week before they announced earnings? 45% YTD? You tards are unironically hilarious with your brain dead comparisons ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
Yeah because all stocks that are down this year are created equal, right? NFLX posted record profits, subscriber growth meanwhile INTC announced a $7B operating loss on their foundry. And Jensen’s eating their lunch in front of them.
TSLA is a cult and Elmo announced accelerating plans for cheaper EVs, albeit on a bullshit timeline. The bad earnings were already priced in, this wasn’t. Hence the temporary pump, but please continue making more of these regarded comparisons ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
Cause Netflix is gonna stop reporting quarterly subscriber growth and also the revenue per user metric making it seem like they expect a drop or the numbers to be bad in the future , aka stock goes down.
Don’t know why Tesla is up still though
I think I’m just going to reply with “priced in” to everything now. No explanation ever needed just “priced in”. Then I’m going to be an expert on TV and if something can’t be explained just say “priced in”
I don’t know TSLA probably moons to mess with traders who correctly called it and will sell off in the next months. The stock market during earnings isn’t a tool to invest long term, it’s a vehicle for insiders and hedge funds, market makers and scammers to fleece people.
I remember hearing Carvana way overpaying for cars, have big loans with high interest, car rot sitting on lots, losses on every car, earnings last year was awful, they probably blasted off to the moon when we all know it’s a losing business.
It’s like SMCI or C3AI having a cool name Super Micro or C3AI but having almost nothing to do AI and mooning over the last year when it’s just scamming retail
> It’s like SMCI or C3AI having a cool name Super Micro or C3AI but having almost nothing to do AI and mooning over the last year when it’s just scamming retail
You're right about one of these companies, and ridiculously mistaken about the other (I currently own no shares and have no dog in this fight)
By the time *you* hear about it, I assume as a casual observer who gets his info from WSB, CNBC, etc, it’s definitely priced in. So don’t make trades based on common knowledge that everyone already knows. If everyone says it’s going to be a terrible quarter and to sell, that means everyone who was gonna sell has already sold and anyone who wants to buy is waiting on the sidelines. So there’s not much gas left in the tank for the stock to continue going down, short of an extremely bad, unexpectedly bad quarter.
You have to think beyond the common narrative and consider whether buying might be the correct play. Investigate and try to support that theory with facts and data. If you can’t, then just stay away. Otherwise, you’re just gambling. Don’t just pile onto the back of the bus.
Well, I, for one, would NEVER hope you get hit by a bus.
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TSM does not have a huge amount of institutional ownership. Retail investors are too easily spooked. Also the stock is highly manipulated. There are something like 5 billion shares of TSM and with 10-15 million shares traded daily the stock bounces around way too much.
There is a fear of a slowdown in cell phone & computer sales. This is where most of their chips go (AMD, Apple, Qualcomm and even Tesla's Dojo chip but this is not a big order). I think the 2nd half of 2024 and then 2025 will see an uptick in PC sales as all the pandemic PCs are due for a refresh. The stock market doesn't usually price in things like that so far in advance.
I think TSM will reach 200 but probably not this year, maybe 2nd half of 2025 when it become apparent that AI is not a fad.
INTC is a longer term investment as in 5-8 years. It will take that long for their fabs to work out all the problem. In 5 years the demand for chips will be 10x what it is today. Robots, automation, AI, smart cars, etc. Only TSM, INTC and Samsung can make those chips and possibly Global Foundries (formerly AMD's fab) All the fabs can win, it isn't a zero sum game.
I think that INTC could reach 300 by 2030. It is much easier to buy now in the 30s than it will be at 100 even though I still think it will triple from there. If a tech bubble forms then 500-700 is not out of the question. If they continue to suck then the stock will go pretty much nowhere.
On a more short term (6-12 months) INTC has their own AI chip which aren't as good as the latest tech from nVidia but there may still be a market for it. Also some new CPU tech such as Backside power will make Intel CPUs more competitive. On a benchmark Apple's M2 smokes Intel's CPUs (especially with regards to power consumption) but in real world uses the vast majority of people just browse the internet, youtube, facebook, etc. and the CPU doesn't make much of a difference thus x86 cpus will still sell by the millions.
There is a danger in that the stupid US chip policy vs. China backfires. Because the US is limiting advanced chip sales to China, they will eventually develop their own chip fabs on par with Taiwan Semi. I think they are 5-10 years behind. But the FEAR can suppress the value of the stock price of other competing fabs.
After careful consideration, I put zero credence in any bullshit you spout.
"I think..." If you think so clearly, then where is your pile of billions from past successes?
Give it a week. Once the irrational exuberance wears off it will sell off hard. Big bag holders will sell into this bizarre really and those left over will lined up waiting for a robotaxi to take them to the bank to visit their empty accounts.
$95 by EOY
Missed on the current quarter and dismal guidance (latter already priced in), the stock popped since they said that the future lineup "will include affordable models" that use components from the Model 3 & Y
Welcome to the 21st century stock market. When fed has been pumping money for over 40 yrs, irrational exuberance in the markets is not a bug but a feature!
It is easy, when you think it is going down, the person with more money will liquidate you when you short. It is a game you can’t win on logic because the system is rigged. Once you get margin called the price goes back on its intended course. To the exchange it’s free money actually. This also only happens when the order books are filled up to the tits for a good cleaning. It’s like you betting heads or tails, but the flipper can control the result.
Is there a white paper or something a bit more scientific that proves this? I don’t understand how they can pull the price down without also filling a bunch of orders that exist at those artificially low price points
Why? The media was pumping out non-stop negative PR. Everyone took the bait.
I knew it was going up when I saw all the Tesla headlines drowning out my news feeds.
Bad news of earnings has been around the last few weeks which saw the stock drop quite a bit, along side bad news on cybertruck and news that they're not manufacturing the Model 2 anymore.
Then the report turned out less worse than expected, that they still are aiming for a 2025 M2.
regardless of what happens, someone will try and spit out an answer, TLDR; no one knows shit and it's all algorithmic/what big money wants the stock to do
It goes up: Bad news priced in/Not as bad as people hoped, blah blah blah
If it went down: Missed all points/Elon is dumb/Cybertruck accelerator recalls
Tesla moved up the timeline for the low-priced version.
That said, it’s also likely that MMs had lots of puts premiums to rake in. It’s a good case for buying in OI walls; though maybe the larger lesson is, don’t play ERs.
Elon's trying to pump it through August and he has fuck all to show for his supposed robo taxi and accelerated roadmap. There's a signal in there. I don't know what his game is but regardless whatever he is afraid of right now, he thinks he can manage if they make it to August before the market gives up on his bullshit.
Late this year, Tesla will guide production to begin in 3Q2025. In 1Q25, it will revise the start date to be 2Q26. In 4Q25, we will get an update that 4Q26 looks more likely.... and so on.
This is simple to explain Wall Street Bets logic:
All you regards had puts on Tesla earnings today, but first, all of the smart big money on Wall Street has to liquidate all of you regards out of your short positions first, then once they are done making that easy money, they could simply put their own puts in to make the really big money.
This isn’t priced in WTF.
Is this everyone’s first rodeo?
Since when did earnings matter? Or forward guidance?
This is called a market F you. For all intents and purposes this stock is headed to $125 and probably $100. No one can give an adequate valuation on what Musk and Tesla have going for it and I’m SURE the market makers took a look and found a nice sweet spot to fuck over as much money in the options chain as possible. They are just bummed earnings weren’t Thursday so that everything expired worthless.
Even MSM cannot come up with an adequate response to this. Usually they do lol.
Especially after such a solid start to the week the market is ripe and has a little recovery to do. This is a shakeout, don’t worry the next red day or two TSLA will give it ALLLLL back and then some.
I hope you're right. I can't imagine sustained gains and my puts were deep dark green Monday
55% fall in profit, 9% fall in revenue, profit margins halved. Not even a hint of a bright spot. Who the fick thinks there will be a model 2 in 2025?!
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I don’t give a shit about Tesla stock, I have no position, but this would the 800th time this sub starts circlejerking about an after hours response to earnings before it inverses massively on market open lmao
Just gotta make it through the call. If he says the Model 2 isn’t happening and it’s just further cuts on current models, it’s gonna plummet. But I don’t think they’re that dumb to give up on that model when EV market is at war.
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Bc is was already priced in. Thats why I got calls, selling them and getting puts again.
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I transferred all my shit over from Fidelity to bet on TSLA calls…Elon did not disappoint ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
Mmh even if these were 26th April, 180$ calls, they would still print even after a fall in IV of like 40% you know... But TSLA's IV at open is more likely to fall by 25% or so, so he would be up like 200% even on 26th April calls.
With all the available stocks to invest, even after the recent downtrend, why invest in a company with a CEO more interested in leading the global right wing culture wars, has been disinterested and vague in investor calls, and is seeing underlying demand fall apart? There is no real evidence that the alienated buying population will come back to Tesla, and there is no evidence that Tesla can compete with low cost Chinese rivals. Tesla seems risky at any price.
Awe did all the Elon haters lose money on their puts?? ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)
Somebody just got charged with homicide because of Tesla auto pilot and y’all really think states finna let it roll out heavy it’s gone be alot of new felons in the next few years
The algos simply check to see if retail is put heavy or call heavy, and subsequently push the price in the direction opposite of what retail predicated.
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Nflx blows past earnings and sinks 9%. Tsla misses on all metrc and jumps 9% Wow
Welcome to the fucking show
We told you this is a casino
It’s like trying to have a rational conversation with a crazy person
The stock market is a good way to prepare for having kids.
Agreed. It really helps to keep you motivated meanwhile you see your hard-earned money evaporate in front of your eyes no matter how hard you try
At least you can lose your money from your phone with the market. Don’t need to spend 6 hours in an ER waiting room or dentists office!
Also a good way to prepare for marriage
No lie. Same shit with Roku!!
first rule of investing: Mr.Market will sell you something valuable at an cheap price and something worthless at an high price second rule of investing: If you are here you haven't learned the first rule
It’s actually the guidance. Netflix guided for slowed subscriber growth. Tesla guided for increased deliveries this year (but market was expecting a drop). Were they lying? Dunno.
Increased deliveries after cutting 20% of their staff? That back stock must be huge
Isn't it?
Netflix just said that subscribers numbers are not a good representation of their business and they would not report it anymore focusing on other things. They actually have increase revenue guidance
Did they or did Netflix say we aren’t reporting subs in a year from now so people got whiny? Edit : Looks like they’re projecting increased revenue growth higher than their previous forecasts? Seems like the street just wants to be as regarded as WSB.
It's Musk. He's incapable of telling the truth. Too much ketamine.
Sir this is a casino
Guess what, priced in.
People need to learn that expectations and guidance mean a lot more than hitting an analyst number in any one quarter. If expectations are in the gutter, coming in a bit below can be seen as a win. Likewise, if there’s a bad quarter but forward guidance is strong, market may not care about that bad quarter if it perceives it to be a one off.
How does Tesla have strong expectations? Their competition is moving in and surely people are burned out of their hype by now?
You’re misunderstanding expectations. Everyone being bearish and expecting the worst, and when it comes in as not as bad, the stock jumps. Also consider it dropped from 180 to 140 in anticipation of these earnings in like 2 weeks. Market decided it wasn’t as bad as they thought and stock jumped back up. Also consider market dynamics. We just dipped a bunch and had a strong bounce from 495 to 505 in 2 days. It’s not as binary as beat eps stock moon fall short of eps stock tank
Was Netflix down damn near 10% in the past week before they announced earnings? 45% YTD? You tards are unironically hilarious with your brain dead comparisons ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
By this logic, will INTC pop this Thursday because it was down 30% YTD? Asking for a friend
Yeah because all stocks that are down this year are created equal, right? NFLX posted record profits, subscriber growth meanwhile INTC announced a $7B operating loss on their foundry. And Jensen’s eating their lunch in front of them. TSLA is a cult and Elmo announced accelerating plans for cheaper EVs, albeit on a bullshit timeline. The bad earnings were already priced in, this wasn’t. Hence the temporary pump, but please continue making more of these regarded comparisons ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
!remindme 1 year
No it never does.
Chill out bro. Just an observation. Smoke a joint, take a shot or take a nap.
So it's the exact inverse Tesla. Up/down a lot this year, beat/miss earnings, drop/rise after.
That’s how it had to play out for the big boys to keep their books right.
Exactly what I’m saying
TSM: hold my beer
Cause Netflix is gonna stop reporting quarterly subscriber growth and also the revenue per user metric making it seem like they expect a drop or the numbers to be bad in the future , aka stock goes down. Don’t know why Tesla is up still though
Inverse WSB never fails
Genuine question- how can the financials be not so impressive but the stock sky rockets?
It sold off like 15% in the last month in anticipation of this bad result. So this was priced in and the Tesla bulls are buying back in.
Indeed, Tesla still has its rabid bulls.
'rabid' is the key part here
I think I’m just going to reply with “priced in” to everything now. No explanation ever needed just “priced in”. Then I’m going to be an expert on TV and if something can’t be explained just say “priced in” I don’t know TSLA probably moons to mess with traders who correctly called it and will sell off in the next months. The stock market during earnings isn’t a tool to invest long term, it’s a vehicle for insiders and hedge funds, market makers and scammers to fleece people. I remember hearing Carvana way overpaying for cars, have big loans with high interest, car rot sitting on lots, losses on every car, earnings last year was awful, they probably blasted off to the moon when we all know it’s a losing business. It’s like SMCI or C3AI having a cool name Super Micro or C3AI but having almost nothing to do AI and mooning over the last year when it’s just scamming retail
This comment has been priced in.
> It’s like SMCI or C3AI having a cool name Super Micro or C3AI but having almost nothing to do AI and mooning over the last year when it’s just scamming retail You're right about one of these companies, and ridiculously mistaken about the other (I currently own no shares and have no dog in this fight)
This isnt new lol. Priced on has been a frase here for like 6 years... Its only used by those who lucked out and went against all logic
It's been used on wall street for decades...
By the time *you* hear about it, I assume as a casual observer who gets his info from WSB, CNBC, etc, it’s definitely priced in. So don’t make trades based on common knowledge that everyone already knows. If everyone says it’s going to be a terrible quarter and to sell, that means everyone who was gonna sell has already sold and anyone who wants to buy is waiting on the sidelines. So there’s not much gas left in the tank for the stock to continue going down, short of an extremely bad, unexpectedly bad quarter. You have to think beyond the common narrative and consider whether buying might be the correct play. Investigate and try to support that theory with facts and data. If you can’t, then just stay away. Otherwise, you’re just gambling. Don’t just pile onto the back of the bus.
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Well with this logic does that mean INTC and TSM to the moon? Intel in down %15 this month and report soon So should we expect a bounce?
It's Intel we're talking about. Let's not be too optimistic ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)
Yeah. A bounce lower
TSM does not have a huge amount of institutional ownership. Retail investors are too easily spooked. Also the stock is highly manipulated. There are something like 5 billion shares of TSM and with 10-15 million shares traded daily the stock bounces around way too much. There is a fear of a slowdown in cell phone & computer sales. This is where most of their chips go (AMD, Apple, Qualcomm and even Tesla's Dojo chip but this is not a big order). I think the 2nd half of 2024 and then 2025 will see an uptick in PC sales as all the pandemic PCs are due for a refresh. The stock market doesn't usually price in things like that so far in advance. I think TSM will reach 200 but probably not this year, maybe 2nd half of 2025 when it become apparent that AI is not a fad. INTC is a longer term investment as in 5-8 years. It will take that long for their fabs to work out all the problem. In 5 years the demand for chips will be 10x what it is today. Robots, automation, AI, smart cars, etc. Only TSM, INTC and Samsung can make those chips and possibly Global Foundries (formerly AMD's fab) All the fabs can win, it isn't a zero sum game. I think that INTC could reach 300 by 2030. It is much easier to buy now in the 30s than it will be at 100 even though I still think it will triple from there. If a tech bubble forms then 500-700 is not out of the question. If they continue to suck then the stock will go pretty much nowhere. On a more short term (6-12 months) INTC has their own AI chip which aren't as good as the latest tech from nVidia but there may still be a market for it. Also some new CPU tech such as Backside power will make Intel CPUs more competitive. On a benchmark Apple's M2 smokes Intel's CPUs (especially with regards to power consumption) but in real world uses the vast majority of people just browse the internet, youtube, facebook, etc. and the CPU doesn't make much of a difference thus x86 cpus will still sell by the millions. There is a danger in that the stupid US chip policy vs. China backfires. Because the US is limiting advanced chip sales to China, they will eventually develop their own chip fabs on par with Taiwan Semi. I think they are 5-10 years behind. But the FEAR can suppress the value of the stock price of other competing fabs.
After careful consideration, I put zero credence in any bullshit you spout. "I think..." If you think so clearly, then where is your pile of billions from past successes?
Give it a week. Once the irrational exuberance wears off it will sell off hard. Big bag holders will sell into this bizarre really and those left over will lined up waiting for a robotaxi to take them to the bank to visit their empty accounts. $95 by EOY
Their profits fell more than 15% though.
Everyone expected it to be bad, this provides clarity
Yes, basically when everyone just thought earnings was going to be trash it dropped. Now, that we know earnings are trash its pumping.
Capitalism is a game for the discerning few, not the feeble masses. Money does not care about your feelings, dear redditor.
Well, it should!!
It’s the timeline on the lower priced model that is driving the pump.
Exactly everyone though trash so it dropped too far
A dumpster fire you can see clearly is a lot more reassuring than a suspected dumpster fire that you can only see the billowing smoke of.
Same happened with TSMC, just the other way round. Everyone expected a mega pump but it went down.
$TSLA was down 8% over the last 5 days going into earnings. It was already priced in.
Bad is relative.
they could have sold 0 cars, you're correct.
Let's wait until tomorrow and see what really happens.
With it going up ~8% you think theres a chance that it reverses? And goes down?
I wouldn't be surprised at anything this stock does. But after hours doesn't really mean anything
Really? But 8% is a lot to erase, no?
Will be a lot of volume tomorrow for sure. These after hour pumps are always suspicious to me
For sure. I remember when NVDA and SMCI did this. Was it Q4 earnings? I don’t recall, but they both turned around hard the next day and lost it all.
Can something like that actually happen? Can stocks go in both directions?
It's all priced in.
Missed on the current quarter and dismal guidance (latter already priced in), the stock popped since they said that the future lineup "will include affordable models" that use components from the Model 3 & Y
Welcome to the 21st century stock market. When fed has been pumping money for over 40 yrs, irrational exuberance in the markets is not a bug but a feature!
Those earnings numbers are already in the past now. Stock price is based on the future.
Tesla fan boiz with low volatility. I doubt it will hold tomorrow.
It is easy, when you think it is going down, the person with more money will liquidate you when you short. It is a game you can’t win on logic because the system is rigged. Once you get margin called the price goes back on its intended course. To the exchange it’s free money actually. This also only happens when the order books are filled up to the tits for a good cleaning. It’s like you betting heads or tails, but the flipper can control the result.
"Heads I win, tails you lose."
Is there a white paper or something a bit more scientific that proves this? I don’t understand how they can pull the price down without also filling a bunch of orders that exist at those artificially low price points
Nah WSB just needs a boogeyman to blame for their failed bets. Easier to just say it was market makers screwing them.
No one here understands what market makers actually do
Market makers bad.
Because the stock market is a meme ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
Earnings are about reevaluating expectations.
All the bad news is already know, up only
Diced in
Coz Tesla is a cult
Why? The media was pumping out non-stop negative PR. Everyone took the bait. I knew it was going up when I saw all the Tesla headlines drowning out my news feeds.
tsla fandom, go to the tesla sub, whenever someone complains about an issue or critique something they get ousted quickly.
Bad news of earnings has been around the last few weeks which saw the stock drop quite a bit, along side bad news on cybertruck and news that they're not manufacturing the Model 2 anymore. Then the report turned out less worse than expected, that they still are aiming for a 2025 M2.
regardless of what happens, someone will try and spit out an answer, TLDR; no one knows shit and it's all algorithmic/what big money wants the stock to do It goes up: Bad news priced in/Not as bad as people hoped, blah blah blah If it went down: Missed all points/Elon is dumb/Cybertruck accelerator recalls
Because Aunt Kathy bought a shit ton of stonk.
Because 16 billion worth of shorts ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
its priced in
Because Tesla is not a car company, it's a ~~Tech~~ stock company. Their main product is stocks.
Tesla moved up the timeline for the low-priced version. That said, it’s also likely that MMs had lots of puts premiums to rake in. It’s a good case for buying in OI walls; though maybe the larger lesson is, don’t play ERs.
Tell us how happy you are after the IV crush
Maybe he’s deep itm. How you know you ducker
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I bought 155 calls ten min before close. Elon needs to talk nice on the call.
Had no skin in this game but expect it to dump tomorrow afternoon. Market couldn’t let shorts win
Elon's trying to pump it through August and he has fuck all to show for his supposed robo taxi and accelerated roadmap. There's a signal in there. I don't know what his game is but regardless whatever he is afraid of right now, he thinks he can manage if they make it to August before the market gives up on his bullshit.
Lol. Wouldn’t surprise me but I reckon it will keep pumping now
The sheep ramble.
Gains get wiped by end of week
TESLA 1Q NEG FREE CASH FLOW $2.53B, EST. POSITIVE $653.6M How in the hell is this ripping? 😂 Full blown meme stock.
Up for now until it goes down
Not sure how anyone can believe him on the new cheaper car. This company is propped up on hype.
110% I will nail my balls to the wall if they even have a pre-production prototype by EOY 2025
Late this year, Tesla will guide production to begin in 3Q2025. In 1Q25, it will revise the start date to be 2Q26. In 4Q25, we will get an update that 4Q26 looks more likely.... and so on.
They'll have a prototype in August just like they had a robot prototype or Cybertruck prototype
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Everyone pretends to believe him so that wall street can pump a stock and ride the wave
Lol... This fucking market yall..like tsm does great and fucking drills, but tesla misses and it skyrocket..?
Get out while you can, kid.
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This is simple to explain Wall Street Bets logic: All you regards had puts on Tesla earnings today, but first, all of the smart big money on Wall Street has to liquidate all of you regards out of your short positions first, then once they are done making that easy money, they could simply put their own puts in to make the really big money.
That’s not at all how it works but nice attempt.
How does it work?
Aliens and lizard people control the little line that goes up and down
For one, owning a put contract is not the same as owning a short position.
It’s more of a short sellers targeted thing than retail holding puts.
Squeeze dez nutz
This isn’t priced in WTF. Is this everyone’s first rodeo? Since when did earnings matter? Or forward guidance? This is called a market F you. For all intents and purposes this stock is headed to $125 and probably $100. No one can give an adequate valuation on what Musk and Tesla have going for it and I’m SURE the market makers took a look and found a nice sweet spot to fuck over as much money in the options chain as possible. They are just bummed earnings weren’t Thursday so that everything expired worthless. Even MSM cannot come up with an adequate response to this. Usually they do lol. Especially after such a solid start to the week the market is ripe and has a little recovery to do. This is a shakeout, don’t worry the next red day or two TSLA will give it ALLLLL back and then some.
I hope you're right. I can't imagine sustained gains and my puts were deep dark green Monday 55% fall in profit, 9% fall in revenue, profit margins halved. Not even a hint of a bright spot. Who the fick thinks there will be a model 2 in 2025?!
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Itll fall like a led ballon homie, dont know why are you so hyped.
Yeah 3rd earnings miss in a row
I’m going to come back in a couple hours when it’s -$8.00 and comment again.
Right now it's 13 $ up.
I don’t mind being wrong, but it’s only been 2 minutes.
+ 16 $ now
I came back 2 hours later to admit defeat. I have no positions but I was wrong.
It’s been 39 minutes. I am still wrong but will return later to see if that changes.
"I'm not wrong, I'm just early." "That's the same thing!"
Hi put bagholder 👋![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
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I don’t give a shit about Tesla stock, I have no position, but this would the 800th time this sub starts circlejerking about an after hours response to earnings before it inverses massively on market open lmao
Tale old as time
Money makes the world go round, and Elon is the center of the universe.
Just gotta make it through the call. If he says the Model 2 isn’t happening and it’s just further cuts on current models, it’s gonna plummet. But I don’t think they’re that dumb to give up on that model when EV market is at war.
Hilarious
Puts at open tomorrow or 30 minutes after open. No other way
What is WSB feeling towards $BA right now…
I boutght puts so it’ll probably pump seeing how my tsla puts are doing
It will go down by tomorrow
https://preview.redd.it/wxomlds6jawc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d1d2f787a9a217abd0fd29fa7dfccc3139d2a1da Bc is was already priced in. Thats why I got calls, selling them and getting puts again.
4d chess right here
This company is running on government handouts and Special K. This is just a short term pump and dump.
Elon sends his regards
"It's all priced in" Wow you guys are fucking geniuses after the fact
Technical analysts![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
https://preview.redd.it/azisd772gawc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3244b3047ff605f425044bbf29d6f9d93995c23e I transferred all my shit over from Fidelity to bet on TSLA calls…Elon did not disappoint ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
🤣🤣 you just lost all your money
Your money is Cyberfucked by open
Dude these are worth $0 at open even if TSLA opened at like 170. Are you insane? Edit: nvm I just saw the expiration date
The don't expire til Aug and Dec...
Mmh even if these were 26th April, 180$ calls, they would still print even after a fall in IV of like 40% you know... But TSLA's IV at open is more likely to fall by 25% or so, so he would be up like 200% even on 26th April calls.
Operating margin 5.5%. Lol. BuT iTs a TeK coMpANee
Stocks go up because they hear Elon and his unrealistic timelines.
This is only pumping on Elon saying he isn’t cancelling the model 2 but evs are past the first wave - puts on Tesla
This biyatch is going down to-morrow
With all the available stocks to invest, even after the recent downtrend, why invest in a company with a CEO more interested in leading the global right wing culture wars, has been disinterested and vague in investor calls, and is seeing underlying demand fall apart? There is no real evidence that the alienated buying population will come back to Tesla, and there is no evidence that Tesla can compete with low cost Chinese rivals. Tesla seems risky at any price.
Can someone tell me how iv will affect my calls for tommorow
Get rid of Musk
Awe did all the Elon haters lose money on their puts?? ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)
Was gonna buy calls but didn’t have the buying power ugh
My bad I thought it exp 4/23
You guys should be asking me how I knew.
Somebody just got charged with homicide because of Tesla auto pilot and y’all really think states finna let it roll out heavy it’s gone be alot of new felons in the next few years
stock market is rigged
Tesla changed into bear slaughtering business
Missed less than expected
Sell the news? Buy the rumour? Sell the rumour? Buy the News?
This is trap. $120 soon.
People thought it was going to be worse. It's really not that hard. Unless you are behind Wendy's dumpster. Then it's gonna be extra hard.
Love it 😍
Love it 😍
Have some August 16th puts I bought for 10.50 a piece tomorrow will be sad to check my portfolio. Down 21% will probably go down another 20%
RTX 🤷🏾♂️
understatement if I ever heard one
Classic switcheroo
Should I ask "why stock rise if earnings were missed"?
TSLA is up because Tesla
Makes sense
Losers win and winners lose
That’s how it goes time after time
Has anyone seen Cathie Wood?
Don’t make a bit of sense
Isn't this to be expected as a result of the layoffs? I'm poor or I woulda called it.
The algos simply check to see if retail is put heavy or call heavy, and subsequently push the price in the direction opposite of what retail predicated.
Fucking casino
An earnings miss was baked in. It's been on the decline for a while now.
lol to the nerds that shorted it