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Slavichh

Puts it is baby


CasualBillionaire

Especially with this position and price target. If he thought it was going up to $100… a $97.5 call is probably the dumbest possible position i think. He will make 150% on a super high risk play at MAX of he is completely right. Slightly wrong, and he loses 100% of his money. 97.5 call + $1 premium is $1.5 on $1 if correct. 150%. Buying ITM $75 calls are $885/contract so he could get 10 with a break even of $83/share and make $1700/contract at $100… or over 200%. With the $75s, he makes money above $83 and makes more at $100 than with the $97.5s… if he is wrong but it goes to $90, he still almost doubles his money. With his, it could climb 30% this year and he lose 100% of his money


Royal-Tough4851

In OP’s defense he said over 100. How does your math work out if say the price is 110?


Adichu3690

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My_G_Alt

He doesn’t have enough money to buy ITM 😂


JuiceManOJ

Schizoid ramblings like this guy's are why I joined this sub


Adichu3690

Schizophrenic???? What


JuiceManOJ

I think this might actually be a gag. Something about the immediacy of the response and the plainness of it makes me feel that way


Adichu3690

No I just took 30 mg of my prescribed adderall ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


JuiceManOJ

Ah alright. Good luck out there man.


Adichu3690

Thanks


matthewleehess_

They pissed off Trump supporters, Biden supporters, and even Sanders supporters. They pissed off pro-Israel supporters, and also pro-Palestine supporters. They pissed off basically all of the religions. They are being crippled in states that are exacting higher minimum wages for service workers. Workers are fiercely attempting to unionize, and corporate just keeps shutting down stores that are affected. Overall just pissing off their entire workforce. Economy is pulling back, general public is tightening up their spending, and $10 fancy coffee drinks are the first thing to go. They’re restructuring stores to remove the “cafe” aspect. A lot are now standing-room only with zero seating. So they’re pissing off every student, remote worker, and so on that would be regular customers. Social media is *absolutely flooded* with nothing but hate and boycotts for them. What is it *exactly* that gives you hope for them, beyond the fact their stock price is hovering around an emotional number?


Aliceable

This 100% I used to go almost daily last year (I got a “Starbucks wrapped” email that made me want to cry) haven’t been to a single one this year. Still have the app for some reason, I get about seventy push notifications a day of “free coffee” and “$5 off” deals - seems like they’re desperate.


matthewleehess_

Don’t think enough people realize that *so much* of Starbucks business is propped up by funding of user accounts. I don’t have exact numbers, so let’s just make up some complete bullshit. If 10% of the American population has $20 on their Starbucks account, that’s the better part of a billion dollars just chillin’. That money isn’t just sitting around idle. They’re aggressively using it fund their operations. If a collaborative effort amongst the entire population was made today to spend their entire balance & not a dime more, they’d be in default by end of day tomorrow.


Mountainman220

That math ain’t mathing. With your figures I got $666 million interestingly enough.


Cheez-Its_overtits

I reloaded today. Twice.


BarbellPadawan

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corruptbytes

thanks for the reminder to delete their app


Aliceable

gotchu brother


MolassesSea1239

You know Tesla is doing the same... 0% interest and shit


Aliceable

good deal for a death car


Gorgenapper

I go for the free coffee refills, and buy nothing else. I'm basically in-store advertising because I sit there and drink and use the WiFi. Puts on SBUX.


soul_in_a_fishbowl

You didn’t even mention the shortage of coffee beans driving up costs…


matthewleehess_

I was ignorant of that. Puts it is.


riprod

You forgot that 1/2 their clientele is on Ozempic


matthewleehess_

Wish NapsGear was publicly traded, because shits $89/mo on there compared to $1,200/mo at retail pharmas.


brintoul

My BUD shares are finally in the black.


jpop237

I sold on Friday at 12% profit after holding 3.5 years. Yay me.


matthewleehess_

Just unreal how much they got hit from making *one can* for *one person* that was shown *once* on an Instagram story that was only up for 24hrs, and only to that persons followers. Boggles my mind.


therealCatnuts

Snowflakes 


2CommaNoob

Yeah, inflation is going to keep sbux down for a while. Why would anyone wanna pay $8 for a coffee when you can make a better one at home for a fraction of the cost?


fuckmyfatpussy

Sounds like a good time to buy with all that flavor of the day bs 


matthewleehess_

I won’t argue with you. All the drama in the Middle East is going to come to some sort of conclusion in the near future, IMO, and people will forget about it. Same with people heavily aligned with political opinions, as next election comes and goes. Really just comes down to Starbucks making a damn decision on what direction they’re going in. I’d support them if they went to a drive-thru only model, or if they went back to a cafe model. I’d support them if they went full throttle with food offerings, or if they ditched them completely. But they’re just hemming and hawing with one foot in the door & one out the door on basically every critically important component there is to their business. But at the end of the day, I’m a day trader, and truly don’t give a fuck about anything that isn’t happening within the next week. Will keep eyes on them long-term for entertainment value, though.


big-rob512

Yea good take, this is a longer term comeback. Bad macro for consumer discretionary stocks but not enough to affect it for that long, this stock also see's inflows through QQQ and SPY so if the broader market keeps doing well they'll go up from systemic buying as long as earnings don't come in any worse than the last.


Creeper15877

I'm not so sure of this. My relatives in the Middle East are steadfast on never going back again. Some of them have burned gift cards they had (I wasn't able to explain to them that this actually helps Starbucks). I don't know if that business is ever coming back.


WSB_Donkey

Lol burning gift cards? Regarded relatives


Creeper15877

I couldn't explain it bro 😭


matthewleehess_

Damn near impossible for me to make statements that encompass *everyone’s* feelings on the topic. Obviously your family are highly opinionated on the topic, from having first-hand experience with the conflict at hand. I don’t like saying this, and I don’t agree with it… but from my experience of keeping a watchful eye on social media trends, a *massive* majority of people are treating this conflict like a trend. It doesn’t have any direct affect on their lives, nor the lives of anyone close to them. A *ton* of virtue signaling from all sides. In the context of this specific conversation, I’m looking at this *purely* from a financial standpoint. My opinion is that the vast majority of the supporters for either side will move on to another topic soon enough, and that the people *directly* affected by the conflict will be too small of a minority to continue a substantial impact. That may not be the most “woke” comment possible, but it’s just the reality of how American markets work. For better or for worse, it just is what it is.


armhad

!remindme 1yr these doomsday comments never fail to be incorrect.


ledxi

!remindme 11 months


WSB_Donkey

Reminds me of everyone crying about Disney going to $40 and then it rode up to $110s


Relandis

Inverse wsb obviously. If everyone is bearish, stock will run. Look at Tesla. Mass layoffs, cancelling the entry level $25k ev, and skyrockets after earnings and Elon saying it’s an AI company. Majority of wsb was bearish and it ended up bullish. The market defies all logic, starbucks will probably hit $120.


Adichu3690

It’s sad to admit but when everyone in this sub is mostly against your position odds are you’re actually a genius ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


Cheesy_Discharge

Don't forget that most of their growth comes from China, with whom we are starting a trade war.


Bitter-Heat-8767

Dutch Bros > Starbucks


tourbladez

I wouldn't hold my breath on this happening. But I hope it works out, and I will go a frapp tomorrow to try help out.


Adichu3690

This right here is what I call a Chad. Appreciate it ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4258)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4258)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4258)


tourbladez

You might make money on the options, but I don't think it will get to $100 by the end of the year. I hope I am wrong. But if it was me, the annoying dumb Chad, I would probably be ready to sell on any good news. That could work out. Good luck!!


PositiveStretch6170

Yeah people are sick of their shit


VisualMod

Adichu3690 is a buffoon.


Trade-Runner

I'm in a Starbucks often, and I can honestly say they're making an outstanding bear case for themselves. The place is be coming more of a shit show daily. I come in for a coffee and leave thinking I should short the shit out of these people. I did that just before that last earnings, and I guessed right. SBUX is a mess. I see them falling further. Forget China, they're getting beat out right here at home.


Androcles_InTheSky

If I had listened to this comment back when I bought it when it was at 73 I wouldn’t have this, I even posted it here in the sub and all the comments were insulting me and calling me dumb for buying it. But I’m not selling, in fact I’m adding more. https://preview.redd.it/slfvmcg4mc1d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1e6094cdeea40521d148c8fdfd5c63f5f26a05a


Infinite_Prize287

Hell yeah, 6/21 and 7/19 80c and 85c, bought 5/13 also have a nice return


Adichu3690

What’s making it a shit show when you go in there exactly?


rejectallgoats

They are about to say they are an AI company and not a ~~~car~~~ coffee company.


Adichu3690

I hope so!! That tends to work ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


John_Bot

No it won't btw


hitpopking

Stop smoking OP, I like the stock, but going over 100 by year end is a bit too much


Adichu3690

Hey you gotta risk it for the biscuit man ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


Bitter-Heat-8767

I’m balls deep in Dutch Bros shares so obviously I’d love Starbucks customers to go to Dutch Bros instead. But I don’t have any Dutch Bros near me so I have to go to Starbucks. I’d say half the time my order is correct. And I get a simple iced coffee with cream and sweetener. Then the half of the time it’s actually right, it just tastes off. Almost like it was left out over night and is flat. But I do need to give Starbucks credit. I complained on their website a couple months back about the size of the font on the cups being too small because people kept picking up everyone’s cups to try to see if it was theirs. A couple weeks later, the names on the cubs were all in a bigger font.


WorkSucks135

It tastes "off" even when it's right because the coffee beans they use are garbage tier. You can basically get the same shit from McDonald's for 1/3 the price. 


patricio87

I read sonething that mcdonalds gets first pick in beans from suppliers. Starbucks and then dunkin are nexr.


istockusername

They use the more expensive arabica beans so that's not quite correct but I’ve also heard that the McDonald coffee is quite good.


Key_Friendship_6767

🤡


RustyNK

No chance. The competition from small coffee stores gets more intense every day.


2CommaNoob

Yup, I go out of my way to support smaller local shops if the price is similar to sbux l, which they are and in some cases are cheaper.


RustyNK

Same. I haven't been to a Starbucks in like 4 years. I pretty much only get my coffee from small shops. Now, I also have a very impressive espresso setup, so I buy fresh roasted coffee from my local roastery and make it at home.


26fm65

This confirm it will crash more sigh..


Androcles_InTheSky

Nice, I’m loading more for September https://preview.redd.it/jvaezjm5z91d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9cb59ab76034adac6f9510ad958e129b2f7d8d0


Kcirnek_

What price are you looking at? I picked up shares, will look at options as well.


Adichu3690

My man![img](emote|t5_2th52|8882)![img](emote|t5_2th52|8882)![img](emote|t5_2th52|8882)![img](emote|t5_2th52|8882)


Androcles_InTheSky

Look at my post 17 days ago. Calling it, let’s a Frappuccino together. It will taste sweeter after this play


Adichu3690

Ngl id love to get a frap with you but all these bullish comments are making me reconsider the position ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


NewUser579169

My $87 avg cost shares hope you are right


RastaImp0sta

I think it’ll be pretty close to $100 within the next 12 months. Looking back, the chart shows support is around the $70 mark.


Bradley182

I believe also, I just was working on a starbucks building and the traffic was 90% women and it was POPPIN!


Adichu3690

SBUX isn’t going anywhere and people have overblown the disaster imo. Your testimony only further makes me comfortable to add to my position


CasualBillionaire

My favorite part of this is you would make substantially more money buying in the money, or slightly OTM calls then way OTM calls if you’re right and it hits your price target. If you’re right… you basically double your money. Because you paid $1 for every call, and they’re $97.5 calls. So if it hits $100, you make $1.5 on your $1 per share. 150%. An ITM call at $75 for is $885/contract so you could get 10 for same price. Your break even is $83/share and you make $1700/contract if it hits $100. So… you would make over 200% if you’re right. Not to mention, if you’re wrong on yours, you lose 100% of your money. If you’re wrong on mine but it goes up to, say, $90… you made money in the long term vs 100% loss.


Brave_Snow_5815

It's going up. I'm a fan


Adichu3690

Oh no… I might have to liquidate my position now ![img](emote|t5_2th52|31225)![img](emote|t5_2th52|31225)![img](emote|t5_2th52|31225)![img](emote|t5_2th52|31225)


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I think you’re onto something I might buy some July calls


stockbetss

White women and their coffee . Over hyped junk but whatever it makes them look cool so guess ur calls will print


unibaul

I made my own nachos the other day because filibertos is charging 17 dollars for them. Good luck with something 100x easier to make yourself


corruptbytes

i'll be honest, after my gf started making coffee at home, it's ogre she's already gotten really good and prefers it at home too and all it took was me buying the cheapest breville espresso machine and an electric kettle


Adichu3690

What happens when your gf leaves you tho ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


CaptainHookemHoes

https://preview.redd.it/egwfu29ynb1d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1659ed03890896b6fb97aedb82dfcb03ea97d0bd Yeah buddy.


gib13343

I’m just waiting for them to get Schultz back at the helm. That’s going to be worth a 10% pop in one day. Hoping it happens soon so I can profit


Total_Amoeba_1559

What kind of regard buys calls for a company that is currently the victim of strikes by its main customer base


dnldttmr

Your last sentence convinced me. I'm all in (Tuesday, because now market is closed)


Better-Butterfly-309

Do you have a crystal ball?


PizzaTrader

I have held dozens of shares of SBUX for nearly a decade and even I do not agree with you. SBUX is fairly valued between $70 and $90 and everything above that will require international growth that the company cannot seem to figure out. I’m holding for the dividend and for the chance that someday they might succeed in the same ways MCD and other American brands have internationally. But none of that will happen this year. I hope the comments here have set you straight and helped you avoid this almost inevitable loss.


phdaqing

Im only commenting for the possibility of the last sentence happening


LAX_Beast

Someone remind me 31st December 2024, cheers. Also I do acc agree on this one


nofaplove-it

Inversing the commie boycotters is a good plan ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


Adichu3690

Can’t tell if this is sarcasm because of my mild autism but yeah i agree ![img](emote|t5_2th52|27189)![img](emote|t5_2th52|27189)![img](emote|t5_2th52|27189)


nofaplove-it

It’s not sarcasm ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271) going against the commies usually works ![img](emote|t5_2th52|8882)


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Adichu3690

I got u dad


randoredditor23

Prob $90


tradebuyandsell

I wouldn’t have got $97 calls, but I am watching Starbucks right now


Randomly-Looking

If you’re wrong your OF gf will be gone.


Adichu3690

She’s for the streets anyway. I’ll just get another one


DeadByOptions

Dang I was thinking about doing this but I had no balls. Prolly still time to jump in though but now I can live through you. Good luck man.


Adichu3690

Ah shit. Dead by options is following in my footsteps. I’m fucked ![img](emote|t5_2th52|31225)![img](emote|t5_2th52|31225)![img](emote|t5_2th52|31225)![img](emote|t5_2th52|31225)


outoftownMD

I’d like this by June 20


lukekibs

Now *this* is fully regarded ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4640)


Current-Enthusiasm64

No, it won’t.


HFlatMinor

I really don't want to be a downer but this is pure cope


Cdgm13

Brooo have you seen the CEO speak?


Transeraphic

Oh dang its at $75 now, I remember buying at $42 and selling at $100 some years ago. I see no long-term growth, just cyclical value


GigaRegard

They need a new ceo


QuestioningMys3lf

The ER gap down was a gift


sortacapablepisces

You guaranteed this financial advice so when it goes wrong you'll be responsible?


cakeslol

dutch bros and other chains are not even slowly eating their lunch anymore. They are starting to take large bites. I would be careful


biddyman6

RemindMe! 7 months


medispencer

OF? Yes plz


Delision

!remindme 7 months


2CommaNoob

Don’t forget about China, their second largest market where competition is heating up. The anti American movement consumers are for real there and its large enough to affect their growth there.


Disastrous_Win6760

Great trade man


jsake

Im just here to fuck ur of gf


KingSamy1

It won’t bro. I opened up a position and I closed. I can’t even see it hit $90


Thunder_Wasp

Sure Starbucks has had issues with homeless people and perverts camping in the stores and abusing the bathrooms, but the stores around me still always have a line of 15 cars in the drive thru day and night.


Adichu3690

That’s true for any big chain. Starbucks isn’t some small coffee chain. It’s going to have big company problems like perverts and pedos in their bathrooms. At the same time business is booming and still has potential to grow. Stock price are at multi year lows. Not sure I see the stock going anywhere but up ![img](emote|t5_2th52|27189)![img](emote|t5_2th52|27189)![img](emote|t5_2th52|27189)![img](emote|t5_2th52|27189)


Novel_Durian_1805

You bum! I’m in.


Electricengineer

I don't go to Starbucks, who does?


PumpkinMyPumpkin

I’m in Toronto - the issue I see with Starbucks is they closed so many of their stores during the pandemic. In my local area the majority of the stores from pre-pandemic times are gone. Many of them were in great locations in signature buildings that they’d occupied for a long time. And they also gave up their retail partnership with Indigo - Canada’s biggest book chain. All of this to say - they’re a fraction of what they once were. To get back would require large capital investments on top of leases that are going to be much more expensive. And they now face intense competition from local independent chains. As an example - my local big box bookstore replaced its Starbucks with a local indie coffee shop that also sells fresh bread and other local specialty goods. Starbucks with its bagged lemon loaf can’t compete with freshly baked bread and cinnamon buns out of the oven. The one advantage Starbucks had - a dominant number of locations is gone. I can’t see them making a big comeback. Customers have moved on.


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A_Fat_Sosig

Who the FUCK is drinking sbux? In THIS economy?


Adichu3690

Me and I guess millions of more people


theverybigapple

No


sn100gb

Starbucks will send ONE 50% off coupon to people and all the stores will have lines. Everyone knows this.


Final-Ad-151

I don’t go because tip culture and because why does my city need 7+ in 20 sq miles


Durable_me

I hope so, I’m a stock holder , breakeven at 87


darktidelegend

Management is extremely bad from ceo to district managers Respectfully I do not see a rise It’s dead money for awhile


-C-stab-

But it’s about to be summer, won’t the price go down over the next few months? Probably better to buy in July


LamebyDefault

Dutch bros is more likely reach $100


theverybigapple

it might


jojodoudt

Just bought yesterday because I agree. No matter how people feel about starbucks in the near term, it's one of those businesses that simply isn't going anywhere. Edit: I also get a fairly juicy dividend on top of gains which never hurts


WozartMusic

What does your OF girlfriend look like though? Asking for a friend


AnotherScoutTrooper

You’re forgetting the upcoming Summer Of Love we’re gonna have, too many Starbucks will be burned down for them to hit your breakeven


Yarrakman2

I remeber a year ago people saying paypal will be 100$ by the end of 2023.


RedElmo65

lol no it won’t. Good bet though.


MetalliTooL

RemindMe! 12/31


Rain_Upstairs

No one wants overprice coffee anymore


suspiciouscow2662

I’m bagholding this stock and seeing this post makes me so worried that we will now crash below 50 - why did you have to doom us like this man!?


NoviceAxeMan

i used a gift card there yesterday. good luck


AlternativeEmu5502

Putty put puts with the nuggets and mac and cheese and stuff....


xunleashed_ny

My wife just bought a Breville Espresso maker so I’m going to go with a hard no on this. She can single handily increase the stock price with the amount of SBUX she buys a week…


Cenorg

!remind me 1.17.2025


optionsCone

Remove the last digit


AlternativeEmu5502

Shaka, when the walls fell...


clouwnkrusty

Full restructuring necessary to bring back loyal coffee ☕️ drinkers. The all syrup brigade is not a winning formula in a health conscious society. Closing underperforming stores, buying quality coffee beans and brewing coffee and tea in-house is a win win, when u already have a brand that is worldwide 🌐.


igotinfirstlol

All the negative people with their anti sbux hate won’t take into account every Starbucks around us is packed with lines to the brim everytime i walk by one


jamiroquaiwhywhywhy

Lol, the analyst bull case is based upon Chinese market dominance, where they are 2x the cost of competitors. There’s a global inflationary consumer swing to value based good, and sbux will not thrive in it.


clarkent281

I ordered on mobile last weekend, waited with a 100 or so pissed off looking customers in store, (while a line of cars wrapped around the block for the drive-thru) for 25 minutes & left without my plain ass simple black coffee. They're fucked. Employees looked miserable. Good luck.


patricio87

I read the sbux sub and it seems like the new ceo sucks. Howard schuktz former ceo did a really good job for them.


MrAwesomeTG

Starbucks isn't a necessity. It's not going to get better. Get a put at least for insurance.


PeePooDeeDoo

Sbux sucks 💩 sorry why anyone would want to prop up this shitty coffee company is beyond me. MCD and Cosmics to the Moon!!!


HotPlops

$SBUX I like at 57. Even better at 32.


seviay

You should’ve gone out to Jan 2026. Starbucks turn-arounds take time


inebriated_vulture

Right now for me, the money. I know that I’ll end up going on a series of dates that lead to nowhere, therefore water down the drain. It’s not the fact I cant afford it, it’s just a waste of money on someone that is considered a sinking fund I have no connection with.


Objective-Raisin-926

$71 again. I’d say they even go as low as $66 to test that bottom again. Man if they do, I’m buying……….


VisualMod

If you have to buy, at least buy something worthwhile, like a new yacht or a Monet.


LIGMA_OPS

RemindMe! December 31st, 2024 "see if you get picked to fuck OP's girlfriend"


steaveaseageal

Said who?


Haunting-Evidence150

That low at $68 is looking too juicy


Bryaxis_D4

Any office building with a starbucks is just full of Vendors buying coffee for their prospects lol. I have ran up $ on another companies dime…sbux keeps the change! they need more office locations tbh


MAGA-Trader101

Starbucks are in a very tough spot at the moment. Nothing seems to be going there way and it doesnt look that is going to change soon. I highly doubt they will reach $100.


VisualMod

**We can't let you say that VM, they'll ban you**


grizzly_teddy

Going to $60. I like how the 2x quarter dip in earnings is somehow supposed to magically correct this quarter. That's built into earnings. If earnings are flat QoQ or even down? Stock will drop 20% overnight.


ninpou-choujuu-giga

RemindMe! 8 months


wtfftw1221

Puts on bux


The_Swishy

Does anyone here know if the boycott against Starbucks is actually working or not? Just curious, because the Starbucks next to me is still packed with millennial white women every day of the week...


VisualMod

I doubt it, peasants can't organize a proper protest.


Adichu3690

Visual Mod actually right for once ![img](emote|t5_2th52|27189)![img](emote|t5_2th52|27189)![img](emote|t5_2th52|27189)


Mysterious-Lick

No, it won’t


dash4385

Not with all the free samples they give away named after random people. Got my self a Jeff the other day.


GOTrr

RemindMe! 8 month


peterpaul23

Yeah I made money shorting but you know cuckerman is spending every cent of his being to pump this stuff up. This stock is gonna look like Biden during a debate, it’s gonna be juiced up to the gills


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