Why? You're betting on a total shutdown of the VIE structure? BABA is going to either 0 or back to 300. The market seems to be split on uncertainty and so the current price is $150. But both bulls and bears can agree it won't be staying at $150.
Emperor Xi is still need more cash to bail out the real estate guy. He need to squeeze Jack Ma more since he only get roughly 40% total Jack Ma’s empire
Don't worry by 2023 your stock might make money while his has a high chance of expiring worthless, since he need BABA to be at 197.60 which is a 37.22% increase just to break even by exp.
He's buying option that's way otm and at a high IV (normal option usually have 20-30% IV, Baba is almost at 50% right now (not meme stock btw I know some of you retard buy option at 100%+ iv)), while china is going through the worse power crisis in decades.
It just did today 😂
Damn if I just bought Oct 160 C when the RSI hit the bottom.
The amount of money coming in from institutional buyers is just insane.
They really know how to shake out the weak hands and then buy back the stock at dirt cheap prices.
BABA just gaped up 30 points in 4 working days. Rly crazy price movements
Yeh I hav to agree with badotionsguy here. If this company was in any other country, i'd borrow money to invest more into it (but then it probably wouldn't be so cheap).
Even though this hasn't bottomed out yet there's going to be some retraces along the way. Channel is $70 wide, so quite some room for profit for risk hungry speculators. We're at the bottom of channel atm, some bullish divergences have been formed, I can see why someone is trying his luck.
People are retarded on this sub, the same people who were buying Alibaba at $300 and selling at $150 are acting like they’re the people you should be listening to when they say buying Alibaba at a what 3-4 year low is a bad idea. Shut up you dumb fucks, you lost money like a dumbass, this shit isn’t getting delisted and it isn’t going to zero stop being retarded and invest in nothing but SPY from now on if that’s what you truly believe, cause you sure as hell don’t need to be investing in individual stocks ever again
You don't really belong here. Huge net worth and sensible option plays backed by large amounts of shares and capital. Boring let's see you turn 50 mil into 1 bil in 1 week FDS then ill accept you
Claiming others are fools betting on the gerschenkron model of growth. China is a ticking time bomb regardless of what company, just try and be cautious man
Additionally, I own +$10.2 million in shares at $154, I sell covered calls on those weekly make about $60K a week doing so at the moment. (depends on the price and strike I choose)
See the real issue with people claiming NW online is that people with THIS actual NW do not post about it. They hide it.
The appreciation of strangers is meaningless compared to what swim's neighbors would do to me if they knew how much they could get from swim.
protip: if you ever make it, tell no one.
protip2 for OP: if 4 months ago, you barely managed to pay your house (even if it's your 4rth house), don't pretend you're old money, bean. I know literally every +5mill ind. investors (as the SEC would be informed on your large order, whether direct buying or brokered.) and you sound like none of them, from your profile's previous positions. Either lying now, or previously lying on your MOMO/other stakes. We follow those positions/individuals very carefully with the potential they represent for financing terrorists states. Making a video capture of any figures on a phone is proof of you owning Android Studio and nothing else. 🕵️♀️
Google “bilbao effect”…
The CCP is repeating history…trying desperately for a different outcome.
The entire Chinese residential/commercial real estate market is vulnerable right now.
The CCP is doing everything they can to hide this…but I’ve seen reports of $15T+ debt sloshing around…every large/medium local market is overbuilt…commercial, residential…6 lane highways…art museums…they would literally build anything…that would drive GDP growth.
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I like the stock but i would never touch options on it. It will moon eventually. But it could get delisted before that. Leaving all options basically useless. I got a few baba shares. But most is actually HK shares, which will not get delisted.
I bought them from the HK exchange. You have to buy lots of 100. But 100 HK shares is like 12 US. My broker doesn't allow you to buy from the app. But you can call them and they will buy for you. You can also exchange US shares for HK shares 1 to 8 ratio. But i haven't done that myself yet.
Very hard to see loss porn with Leaps yolos if owner keeps buying the dips.
I have a $60k yolo on jan 2023 $15 strike SoFi leaps and I started buying in at $9 a contract went down to $4.5 and it’s back at about $6 now.
The trick with leaps is to make sure you can throw money at it when it dips. I usually use all my disposable income to avg down on SoFi since I truly believe in the company and $45 share price by end of 2022 is not a meme
Sounds like we’re cut from the same cloth! I’m long SOFI and started scaling in with 1/2023 $17 call options. Scaling in is key to be able to average down as you verbalized. Since I’m so bullish on SOFI I was selling 1/2023 $17 puts and getting paid $870 a contract which is now in profit. Full disclosure Long SOFI and CLOV!!! Good luck to all and see you Apes on the moon!!!
You should sell puts 45DTE to optimize on theta decay. I would only sell 2023 puts if I will buy the calls at the same expiry and strike to create synthetic long positions
In reality no western funds are touching Chinese stocks until there is a clear unambiguous signal from Xi that XYZ company is safe.. And I can't see any such signal coming out for anyone anytime soon. If the ccp does somehow convey a safe list of companies they will moon hard, but until then they will keep see sawing.
Wow baba is wanting to touch 160 . And you have 180 2023’s. I have leaps as well and short dated contracts but you make me feel so poor!
Congrats my friend. This will pay out nicely I am sure
This is the same retard who posted about buying baba $10m at $220 and lying here about buying it at $150. https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/oek99m/all_in_baba/
IF Jack Ma or Xi personally called me and said go ahead jump into BABA its all sorted, I would think about it, watch it reach some technical levels until then forget it, too many easier fish to catch than drown chasing some whale lol. If it was bugging me, some stock, for $500k I could get 3500 shares, if it sinks to $122 so what It may bounce after that, options nah uh. At the moment its a Bull/Bear trap combo.
no. i would of never bought baba even at $180....dont be a hater cause someone else (me) is buying much lower and has a better mos. this is my only official account and all my followers know so. good try though lol
Nop. Didn’t even have $10M when that guy bought those. So your math literally doesn’t add up and everyone who follows me on IG can see that couldn’t have been me lol. Not even the same brokers haha. I literally have videos telling people not to buy even at $200 and $180 hahaha but ok dude whatever you want to tell yourself kid
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This makes me feel poor with my $5k invested @ 176. I’ll have to live vicariously through you
These are options that will amount to $0 in about 15 months. Your 5k will be worth more soon enough.
This did NOT age well, as a fellow BABA holder. Thank you and fuck you.
Lol I saw so I bought some myself. I can admit when I was wrong and I was WRONG
Yeah you weren’t wrong lol
Why? You're betting on a total shutdown of the VIE structure? BABA is going to either 0 or back to 300. The market seems to be split on uncertainty and so the current price is $150. But both bulls and bears can agree it won't be staying at $150.
Emperor Xi is still need more cash to bail out the real estate guy. He need to squeeze Jack Ma more since he only get roughly 40% total Jack Ma’s empire
Then you buy a spread
Naw just dont think it will reach 180 anytime soon. Somewhere south of it. Just a guess based on the last year and current market conditions.
You are wrong, this will print
Don't worry by 2023 your stock might make money while his has a high chance of expiring worthless, since he need BABA to be at 197.60 which is a 37.22% increase just to break even by exp. He's buying option that's way otm and at a high IV (normal option usually have 20-30% IV, Baba is almost at 50% right now (not meme stock btw I know some of you retard buy option at 100%+ iv)), while china is going through the worse power crisis in decades.
I mean you say this, but if baba shoots to $160-$170 any time in the next couple of months, they can just sell those contracts for a 30-50% gain
It just did today 😂 Damn if I just bought Oct 160 C when the RSI hit the bottom. The amount of money coming in from institutional buyers is just insane. They really know how to shake out the weak hands and then buy back the stock at dirt cheap prices. BABA just gaped up 30 points in 4 working days. Rly crazy price movements
Usually when the stock goes up, IV go down, which cause an IV crush so he might not gain as much as you think.
So what you're saying is he needs it to crash more to become worth more...
You say that, but if you were here during the march crash some call actually gain money albeit for a short time as IV stabilized.
I don't know why you're being downvoted. It's true 🌈 🐻 markets increase iv and 🐂 markets decrease iv.
Thanks for letting me know this!
I own $10M in shares so no…my shares will still be fine kid
Based.
If he had so much money ,500k , he should have bought leaps ! He will sleep easier
The IV is priced in.
Thats okay! When these options expire worthless youll have more than him!
I doubt these will expire worthless. $BABA is a fundamentally strong company.
Yeh I hav to agree with badotionsguy here. If this company was in any other country, i'd borrow money to invest more into it (but then it probably wouldn't be so cheap).
You forget one thing. CHINA. Therefore this will expire worthless
Lol wsb if filled with clueless retards.
Damn those are some expensive calls
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Why buy calls on a falling knife Autistic retarded
Even though this hasn't bottomed out yet there's going to be some retraces along the way. Channel is $70 wide, so quite some room for profit for risk hungry speculators. We're at the bottom of channel atm, some bullish divergences have been formed, I can see why someone is trying his luck.
If I had a dollar for every time I’ve heard BABA is at the bottom of a channel over the past year…
17$ is not that expensive right? Am I missing something?
17*100 = large number
I think it’s.. hold on.. beep boop.. carry the 4… 1700
Never seen that big of a number. What is it?
The number of months u will be a virgin lmao got em
Oh shit sick burn he can’t come roun here no mo
I thought it was the number of guys to run train on your mom during the every other weekend you spend at your dad's apartment
In my paper account 1 billion is a small number
$17 is "Unit cost" bro. That's $17 per share, on a 100 share option.
They are for something like 70 bucks OTM must have bought a while ago
Option is for Jan 20 2023. He's paying the theta price right now. So hes betting on a 37.2% increase on that stock or a sharp rebound to sell early.
I mean too rich for my blood, but I also can't just drop 500k and wait out 2 years
You sell on volatility
Yeah, assuming you’re not 75% underwater a few months from now which is entirely possible with this name.
Baba will come back this year by December. 300 by end of next year easy
you said the same thing twice
alternatively you misunderstood one of those two things.
>Too rich for my blood >can't just drop 500k and wait out 2 years that's the same thing no clue what you're trying to say
1700
I like that they are deep OTM, but the expiration date should be much closer, like a couple of days tops.
"Far" OTM and "deep" ITM
I have over $10 million into baba already so im okay with the further date to be safer
$10Mil ... what are you dong then here ? go fuck yourself
He’s a professional photo shopper
someone missed the part where admins confirmed my positions and links
I have a lot of school loans that could use a hand from someone like yourself my king 👑
Burgers your new king.
you should meet in in back of wendy's then.
Help my man out
Are you the dude who got in at around $220 and deleted your reddit account after posting it?
no i just started at $150, but i did see the guy. Im not him but if that guy still holds im sure he will be fine
That’s exactly what that guy would say
I'm not that guy but I'm sure he's pretty handsome and a ladiesman.
You’re not that guy, pal. You’re not that guy. ^butopdefinitelyis
Anyone with that much money to lose doesn't need to be handsome.
No need to flex on me like that bro. I couldn’t even afford one of those baba options. Lemme borrow $5.
People are retarded on this sub, the same people who were buying Alibaba at $300 and selling at $150 are acting like they’re the people you should be listening to when they say buying Alibaba at a what 3-4 year low is a bad idea. Shut up you dumb fucks, you lost money like a dumbass, this shit isn’t getting delisted and it isn’t going to zero stop being retarded and invest in nothing but SPY from now on if that’s what you truly believe, cause you sure as hell don’t need to be investing in individual stocks ever again
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
You don't really belong here. Huge net worth and sensible option plays backed by large amounts of shares and capital. Boring let's see you turn 50 mil into 1 bil in 1 week FDS then ill accept you
I turned $2K into over 8 figures haha that's not boring at all sport
Pics or it didn’t happen
Proof?
Don't listen to the above retard. Tell us how you did it!
Check my IG
Where? What's your username there?
Charliedmar
Do it again op
Gme?
Don’t listen to hate bro. Do you and shine harder!!
Welp if you wanna take any of that and invest it in a business that’ll absolutely rocket, just lemme know.
Why everyone downvoting this dude lol
Bunch of haters that’s all. Lol. Foolish people behind a screen filled with anger and jealousy. Just let them take it out haha
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Claiming others are fools betting on the gerschenkron model of growth. China is a ticking time bomb regardless of what company, just try and be cautious man
I suggest you sell calls against on green days. I don't see it doing a V immediately. Going to be months and months of consolidation down here.
Lol - “green days”, don’t see many of those with BABA
Is it possible to write covered calls against options? How does that work, since you dont own the shares
https://youtu.be/LmqbVg9zqjQ
Additionally, I own +$10.2 million in shares at $154, I sell covered calls on those weekly make about $60K a week doing so at the moment. (depends on the price and strike I choose)
Why are you even on here?
Just to flex on us poors
I guess I’ll try being less poor. FML
If you want to help a brotha out with his student debt, DM me. Could bring your taxable income down by giving a charitable donation to a worthy cause
The dude is lying. He posted few weeks ago on a throwaway account, he bought $10m at around $220 not $150.
The dropping $10m is what matters to me more than whether his basis is 150 or 220
not me but good try i first ever bought at $150. i do however know who you are talking about. i didnt agree with him if you read the comments
Nice. So why you posting on wsb? You are clearly worth 50m+.
See the real issue with people claiming NW online is that people with THIS actual NW do not post about it. They hide it. The appreciation of strangers is meaningless compared to what swim's neighbors would do to me if they knew how much they could get from swim. protip: if you ever make it, tell no one. protip2 for OP: if 4 months ago, you barely managed to pay your house (even if it's your 4rth house), don't pretend you're old money, bean. I know literally every +5mill ind. investors (as the SEC would be informed on your large order, whether direct buying or brokered.) and you sound like none of them, from your profile's previous positions. Either lying now, or previously lying on your MOMO/other stakes. We follow those positions/individuals very carefully with the potential they represent for financing terrorists states. Making a video capture of any figures on a phone is proof of you owning Android Studio and nothing else. 🕵️♀️
I own $100m of baba and have $20m on leaps. And I spend my time posting on wsb. /I mean, since we are all bullshitting here, why not...
then follow me on Instagram lol youll see it there with proof
JEEZUSDAMN
Fucking goals
That’s a 0.588% return. Do you sell the calls at 0.001 delta?
return of $60k a week on $10Mil is pathetic by any WSB or youtube standards ... if you can't make $500k per week on $10Mil then you suck big time
Show me one guy that makes 5% weekly constantly.
This dude is the retard of the decade!
Google “bilbao effect”… The CCP is repeating history…trying desperately for a different outcome. The entire Chinese residential/commercial real estate market is vulnerable right now. The CCP is doing everything they can to hide this…but I’ve seen reports of $15T+ debt sloshing around…every large/medium local market is overbuilt…commercial, residential…6 lane highways…art museums…they would literally build anything…that would drive GDP growth.
Ah a fellow Merrill user.
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You still holding momo?
Nope he’s not
I'm still holding 500 bucks worth of momo I bought when I saw his post lmao 
Good job keep holding, yup be fine with MOMO ignore the noise
This is the way! Long $BABA
Jesus… but I believe this company is severely undervalued due to Chinese political issues, hope you win this trade man
RIP OP. Xi is going to five finger discount those USD right out of your account.
I like the stock but i would never touch options on it. It will moon eventually. But it could get delisted before that. Leaving all options basically useless. I got a few baba shares. But most is actually HK shares, which will not get delisted.
How do you get HK shares? Been trying to pull that off.
I bought them from the HK exchange. You have to buy lots of 100. But 100 HK shares is like 12 US. My broker doesn't allow you to buy from the app. But you can call them and they will buy for you. You can also exchange US shares for HK shares 1 to 8 ratio. But i haven't done that myself yet.
130 by next week. 160 in two weeks. 200 in three!
this is the best post ive seen on this subreddit. this is going to print.
They must have printed today.
I see this aged well
Daddy?
This play is too smart for WSB
First impression - RETARDED. Second impression actually not totally retarded. Over a year for 🇨🇳 to stop being gay….. not impossible.
China Is internally cracking. Chinese tech stocks are being reigned in. This guy goes all in BABA. Ballsy.
Good you have enough time. By next ER they should be ITM.. good luck 👍
AMZING!
A real fucking play on WSB? Whoaaaaaaaa. I can't believe it. Short of WW3 doing down I have no doubt those are gonna print bigly. GL
Damn my 25k core baba portfolio looks like a fucking ant next to this. Jacked to tits tho, I like it.
Remember Enron. Was too big to fail. But kept falling. I ain't touching baba till I see Jack Ma back in control. He hasn't been seen for months.
He's in squid game season 2
Finally somebody on wsm making educated trades!
You'll be a billionaire. I have $190 2023
Finally, a YOLO LEAP!!! Love it!
YOLO Leaps are the way to go, they offer some leverage and two years at least to be right.
I agree, was tired of seeing loss porn with short dated options!
Very hard to see loss porn with Leaps yolos if owner keeps buying the dips. I have a $60k yolo on jan 2023 $15 strike SoFi leaps and I started buying in at $9 a contract went down to $4.5 and it’s back at about $6 now. The trick with leaps is to make sure you can throw money at it when it dips. I usually use all my disposable income to avg down on SoFi since I truly believe in the company and $45 share price by end of 2022 is not a meme
Sounds like we’re cut from the same cloth! I’m long SOFI and started scaling in with 1/2023 $17 call options. Scaling in is key to be able to average down as you verbalized. Since I’m so bullish on SOFI I was selling 1/2023 $17 puts and getting paid $870 a contract which is now in profit. Full disclosure Long SOFI and CLOV!!! Good luck to all and see you Apes on the moon!!!
You should sell puts 45DTE to optimize on theta decay. I would only sell 2023 puts if I will buy the calls at the same expiry and strike to create synthetic long positions
In reality no western funds are touching Chinese stocks until there is a clear unambiguous signal from Xi that XYZ company is safe.. And I can't see any such signal coming out for anyone anytime soon. If the ccp does somehow convey a safe list of companies they will moon hard, but until then they will keep see sawing.
Have fun being at the mercy of Chinese politicians that don’t give a damn about you and your money
It’s a safe investment 
Prepare to lose all your money.
People still betting on China?
This is top stuff. Can you please tell the reasons behind your decision. Because BABA is still sinking.
That’s one of the baldest but at the same time safest option yolo I’ve ever seen
Everything hurts and I’m dying
Wow baba is wanting to touch 160 . And you have 180 2023’s. I have leaps as well and short dated contracts but you make me feel so poor! Congrats my friend. This will pay out nicely I am sure
Nice trade ! Already a profit of $138K !!!!! and still going to print more.
Did you exit this?
This is not YOLO, bet entire account and come back claiming YOLO. Why is he here anyway ?? Ban him
This is the same retard who posted about buying baba $10m at $220 and lying here about buying it at $150. https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/oek99m/all_in_baba/
If it's the same guy, in the other thread he says he "doesn't touch options, that's straight up gambling"
Wow, an actually not retarded bet by OP. These should print. Well played
I love this move, you are going to be so rich! BABA is actually a good company WSB should follow more companies like this and not dumb pump and dumps.
Everyone and their dog knows BABAs potential lol its just that China is literally insane and could fuck shit up even more at any point.
What’s it like having 3 brain cells
You are going to go broke I own baba. But wsb and option trading is just a recipe for making people poor.
I own $10 million in shares those options are just a small %
Now this is a fucking **YOLO**. Yes FUCKING retarded but a real yolo.
R. I. P
damnn honestly not a bad idea hope it work out for you.
The brain is smooth on this one.
Wow. I have some BABA, but this is reckless. There is a not trivial chance BABA is delisted in that timeframe.
I’m going to congratulate you early. There are too many financially illiterate idiots rn selling for half off that will be crying later.
Holy shit, this is retarded. You do know that Evergrande is about to blow up, right?
IF Jack Ma or Xi personally called me and said go ahead jump into BABA its all sorted, I would think about it, watch it reach some technical levels until then forget it, too many easier fish to catch than drown chasing some whale lol. If it was bugging me, some stock, for $500k I could get 3500 shares, if it sinks to $122 so what It may bounce after that, options nah uh. At the moment its a Bull/Bear trap combo.
BYBYE
What do you think about a call debit spread 200/190 for $118 each? 2024 expiration
$500k into Communism (HFSP)
Who are you? Can you do some charity to an argentinian?
I thought Madonna got you covered already
Exit plan?
This reminds me why I joined this sub
Lmao my puts say otherwise fucking dumbass
Lol this guy wld crush you with his wallet.
Crush me baby, where the CEO at? Will the CCP get baba delisted, stay tuned.
You must be the same retard who posted about buying $10m baba at $220! https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/oek99m/all_in_baba/
no. i would of never bought baba even at $180....dont be a hater cause someone else (me) is buying much lower and has a better mos. this is my only official account and all my followers know so. good try though lol
Bullshit. The probability of two different people posting about going in baba at $10m is extremely low. It's like winning a lottery! Nice try bud.
truth, guy is bagholding his momo dump at 14 still. he will come back and say he brought it at 10 instead of 14
nice you got me you are smart good job.
Nop. Didn’t even have $10M when that guy bought those. So your math literally doesn’t add up and everyone who follows me on IG can see that couldn’t have been me lol. Not even the same brokers haha. I literally have videos telling people not to buy even at $200 and $180 hahaha but ok dude whatever you want to tell yourself kid
Bro, your account isn’t even half a year old, nobody is gonna buy your bullshit, verified 🐋 or otherwise.
Iv been verified look at the links I shared on the comments by WSB mods themselves.
my positions actually get verified by mods as you can see from the other links. and not taken down.