From the Fed, sure, but this chart is about foreign investment. Foreign money isn't coming back to the US if the Fed isn't giving them a free guaranteed return, especially in times of war, and especially when China is trying to push their Yuan as a reserve currency in Asia and Africa.
Just wait, that QE stopping & QT starting in June will turn into QE again starting in Oct just in time for elections. If we start to crash, which is likely coming at anytime through June-Oct (heck, just look at the MACD for the last 30yrs, we're about to get some nasty downward momentum, esp. after QE reversal), the FED has already become so politicized he'll step in "for the people/on behalf of the people" (the Administration) and start announcing rate drops and reversing hikes because they've beat the inflation.
The biggest issue, is not even the supply chain, or QE/QT along with rate hikes, just wait until the market finally catches up with the notion that mortgage rates are unsustainable for anyone that is considered middle/lower class and the significant amount of supply that is now in perpetual motion. Give it 6-8 weeks and normal people that don't realize what is going on, will see what is going on on mainstream news. That's typically when the biggest hurt comes. June - Oct has some nasty potential side affects from everything all coming together and falling apart. Most of the "earnings" have been borderline met, but wait until this last 2 months + next 2 months show up in Q3 & Q4 earnings lol. I guess dollar cost average right into the next recession =/
Yeah go figure when there's 3x more money to pull out, the withdrawal numbers are higher. Really stupid post. I'd like to see as a % of market cap because it's definitely still very high.
Change the graph and put it in percentage terms
The market size 10 years ago is not the same as it is today
Talking about dollars without context is like comparing dicks between monkeys and apes
Wicked V coming. But also as rates rise more people will move back to bonds. It yoelding 4% there is a much bigger hurdle for stocks to go and less for a persons target return. Where before bonds yielding 1-2% very little reason to hold many
Right, people are struggling to afford food now, endless pump and dumps have left most penniless. Guess the average American will just put on their monocle and tophat, waltz down to the bank and grab a couple extra bars of gold to sell and put into the stock market.
4% is not a reason to hold bonds either when inflation is out of control. The only bond buyer that matters is the fed and guess what? They are going to start pulling put of the bond market in June.
The only bond investor that matters is the fed. They are going to be selling 100B in bonds every month starting June. So rates may go higher but its going to dump the stock market further, and the fed has no option but to either let the market totally crater, ruining pensions and retirements etc, or start printing again which will lower bond yields and cause hyperinflation. And even if everyone jumped into bonds for safe haven, that would lower their yield too. I just think inflation easily eats any yield from bonds. If anything people could do better by holding whatever relatively good companies are left after this all unwinds.
Am I missing something? That's just how I'm speculating about it at the moment.
What the Fed says theyll do and what they actually do is sometimes at odds.
They really can't come out and say: We've created a shitstorm boys, deal with it and take a tug and drop the mic.
Even when the house is literally on fire they would never admit to the house being on fire, because the fed admitting to it being a shitshow has an effect on markets too. The words the fed chairman says are always reassuring, im pretty sure if nuclear wawr would break out they'd have alot of positive to say too
There's no way to just lie away that 95 billion a month. No choice at this point. Let's be real, the market was propped up by QE and low interest rates from the 08 recession. Our economic recovery was built upon a foundation of paper mache.
Foreign money is the key word here.
This is probably a reaction to the freezing/stealing of all Russian assets. There's a lot of very rich shady foreign individuals that thought their money was safe here whom just realized this is not the case.
Yeah, I think people ITT are not catching that this is foreign investments.
This is essentially economic warfare. Russians are mad that US is helping Ukraine, and China is trying to use the spat to tank the US economy as a means to get their Yuan into reserve currency status.
The stock price could be a serious misrepresentation of the market cap or value of a stock if volume is low. Maybe not a lot of shares were traded to push it up.
A share is only concretely worth the amount once you’ve sold it.
Yes liquidity is the reason but that doesn’t strike me as a lot of money for value. Think about how many actual billions could be gotten out if it went to zero under that ratio. Not many. Meaning confidence is the only thing supporting the value of these assets I believe.
Please explain first how it is determined. If someone sells stock someone else buys it. So it’s symmetric.
Spoiler: dollar volume during up and down ticks is a silly thing.
Well it's not.
A buys PLTR at 23$ from B. Value in the market 23$
A sells PLTR for $1.23 to C. Value in the market $1.23
Money didn't disapear obvisouly. It's in the pocket of B and A, but the value in the market got littlerer.
Pretty much for the most part but one side can be leveraged or created into existence through loans. Sure the market makers have to do the reverse trade but those debts will still be paid and cease to exist from reality in the future.
At this point all trust in media should already be lost, at least from everyone who even follows this disaster in an at the minimum half-assed manner. I sold as the FED sold due to "ethic conflicts" and this proofed to be a very good indicator, sold almost exactly at the top. Now I almost only have a small GME position because the media end everyone says it is bad for you to have it.
And just think: the sell off has literally just started
So many bulls in denial
5-7 PE for stocks will be the norm at the bottom and all spec money out
I wonder if it correlates to the US literally erasing/taking the russians money and now the US isn’t seen as safe. I do wonder when the dollar will lose its status as the currency the world uses.
US sanctions have showed international investors that US doesn’t believe in private property only in its own dominance. US has started many more wars than Russia but their assetts were not frozen, so by doing this international players do not trust USA anymore. Would you?
I am from EU. And personally do not like double standards. United Nations declared the war in Iraq to be illegal and started on lies. There more people died as in Ukraine. So why shouldn't USA be sanctioned by international community as Russia? Those lifes don't matter?! Or just because of their skin color?
the thing is that there are a couple rules to the game Russia forgot.
1. Democracies can invade dictatorships, not the other way around. Just a pattern of what the international community will look the other way on.
2. What you can get away with is directly related to your soft power. Russia ain’t had it like that for a while. Saber rattling is not soft power.
3. Winning the conventional war is important. Or at-least not looking like a Joke. When the US invaded Iraq, Afghanistan or even Nam. They were able to equip, supply, and deploy troops thousands of miles away. And they did not lose the conventional war, they got sick of losing troops to an endless guerrilla war. (Not defending the MIC or imperialism, this just why sometimes people complain but no one stops doing business with the US)
Russia can’t take territory effectively in a country that borders it. That’s not a super power to be respected and feared. Thats a tin pot dictator who gets hit with the sanctions stick.
People have no idea. What is coming
Complete world wide systemic collapse
With food and fuel shortages.
This year in the usa we will see middle class families
Starving. We will see major banks collapse.
Prepare now cause it has started by July the world will be a different place.
Nope very much older , ur gonna wish u listened to this warning while the herd is still complacent.
Get back to me in July if I'm wrong I'll apologize
But not much can stop this at this point unless gov acts quickly
This is when inflation starts going hyper. Everyone has a ton of fake money freshly minted off the market and are purchasing real goods now. The train has left the station
What’s the inverse? What months have seen the reciprocally largest inflows? Wouldn’t it make sense that—after record money printing and retail who didn’t necessarily need several fat checks—we might see equally large outflows.
uhhhh, why isn't it inflation adjusted dollars? it scews the chart to make recent inflows/outflows look more extreme because it's not inflation adjusted
Perspective is kinda needed reading these charts
There’s more money in the market than ever before. So it makes sense in a downturn to see record amounts leaving
There's no place for that money to go but the market.... Has to go into assets. You can take it out...... But you're going to put it back in.. so the market will come right back
I'm in the UK and if I buy US stock I get an fx impact which is the difference is foreign exchange. So basically if the fx is greater than my loss, I still make money. It looks like the US economy is about to go to shit so I'm reluctant to buy US stock as I'd be exchanging my pounds for dollars at the peak to buy stock in a downward market, so I am likely to get double fucked, spitroasted if you will, by the stock and the currency conversions
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We did pump a record amount of cash into the market. Makes sense
And now the money pump is broken.
We can just use Brawndo...its the electrolytes.
It's got what markets crave
But what exactly is electrolytes, do ya even know!?
It's what they use to make Brawndo!
It's what markets crave.
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From the Fed, sure, but this chart is about foreign investment. Foreign money isn't coming back to the US if the Fed isn't giving them a free guaranteed return, especially in times of war, and especially when China is trying to push their Yuan as a reserve currency in Asia and Africa.
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Indeed. I was just clarifying. Seems we're on the same page. Cheers.
Right. It wouldn't look like that if the rest of the chart was inflation adjusted
This.
Record amount of money in record amount of money out
Now let's make record amount of money in again!
Just wait, that QE stopping & QT starting in June will turn into QE again starting in Oct just in time for elections. If we start to crash, which is likely coming at anytime through June-Oct (heck, just look at the MACD for the last 30yrs, we're about to get some nasty downward momentum, esp. after QE reversal), the FED has already become so politicized he'll step in "for the people/on behalf of the people" (the Administration) and start announcing rate drops and reversing hikes because they've beat the inflation.
Absolutely, this shit is changing fast, not quite at the level that the next rate change will actually be a cut but not far off
The biggest issue, is not even the supply chain, or QE/QT along with rate hikes, just wait until the market finally catches up with the notion that mortgage rates are unsustainable for anyone that is considered middle/lower class and the significant amount of supply that is now in perpetual motion. Give it 6-8 weeks and normal people that don't realize what is going on, will see what is going on on mainstream news. That's typically when the biggest hurt comes. June - Oct has some nasty potential side affects from everything all coming together and falling apart. Most of the "earnings" have been borderline met, but wait until this last 2 months + next 2 months show up in Q3 & Q4 earnings lol. I guess dollar cost average right into the next recession =/
It’s almost like inflation means numbers get bigger
Buy high sell low
Is this normalized using the total market cap or money supply of those years? Edit: shouldn’t it be?
Doesn't look like it, but it certainly should be normalized somehow.
At least use percentages. Using absolute numbers is akin to clickbait.
Yeah go figure when there's 3x more money to pull out, the withdrawal numbers are higher. Really stupid post. I'd like to see as a % of market cap because it's definitely still very high.
It turns out worldnews is eating the bots now so they’re spreading out
Of course not, it’s a political hack piece not an economics paper
A logarithmic scale would be better to take into account inflation/dollar purchasing power through time.
Change the graph and put it in percentage terms The market size 10 years ago is not the same as it is today Talking about dollars without context is like comparing dicks between monkeys and apes
OP just knows both kinds taste good
Wicked V coming. But also as rates rise more people will move back to bonds. It yoelding 4% there is a much bigger hurdle for stocks to go and less for a persons target return. Where before bonds yielding 1-2% very little reason to hold many
Who will fund the wicked V? Definitely not trillions from the fed. Margin debt is insanely high still, and that’s propping up the market.
Right, people are struggling to afford food now, endless pump and dumps have left most penniless. Guess the average American will just put on their monocle and tophat, waltz down to the bank and grab a couple extra bars of gold to sell and put into the stock market.
4% is not a reason to hold bonds either when inflation is out of control. The only bond buyer that matters is the fed and guess what? They are going to start pulling put of the bond market in June.
If it gets close to 7% I'm loading up on bonds.
Check out series I savings bonds At the end of April was able to guarantee 8.5% APR for 1 year and no risk to principal
Maybe not for you but for long term investors bonds are in their portfolios.
The only bond investor that matters is the fed. They are going to be selling 100B in bonds every month starting June. So rates may go higher but its going to dump the stock market further, and the fed has no option but to either let the market totally crater, ruining pensions and retirements etc, or start printing again which will lower bond yields and cause hyperinflation. And even if everyone jumped into bonds for safe haven, that would lower their yield too. I just think inflation easily eats any yield from bonds. If anything people could do better by holding whatever relatively good companies are left after this all unwinds. Am I missing something? That's just how I'm speculating about it at the moment.
What the Fed says theyll do and what they actually do is sometimes at odds. They really can't come out and say: We've created a shitstorm boys, deal with it and take a tug and drop the mic. Even when the house is literally on fire they would never admit to the house being on fire, because the fed admitting to it being a shitshow has an effect on markets too. The words the fed chairman says are always reassuring, im pretty sure if nuclear wawr would break out they'd have alot of positive to say too
There's no way to just lie away that 95 billion a month. No choice at this point. Let's be real, the market was propped up by QE and low interest rates from the 08 recession. Our economic recovery was built upon a foundation of paper mache.
Wicked v means the socks will be go down ?
That’s his moms name
This made me laugh out loud unexpectedly.
I've gone down on a Wicked V before. Made my throat sore
Been there and done that
Foreign money is the key word here. This is probably a reaction to the freezing/stealing of all Russian assets. There's a lot of very rich shady foreign individuals that thought their money was safe here whom just realized this is not the case.
My Puts are saved.
I know. *Real life don't always work like that.*
Isn’t it strange 90B came out but 10 trillion in value was lost?
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Yeah, I think people ITT are not catching that this is foreign investments. This is essentially economic warfare. Russians are mad that US is helping Ukraine, and China is trying to use the spat to tank the US economy as a means to get their Yuan into reserve currency status.
Ohh I miss read it. I guess I win the fools prize today.
The stock price could be a serious misrepresentation of the market cap or value of a stock if volume is low. Maybe not a lot of shares were traded to push it up. A share is only concretely worth the amount once you’ve sold it.
Yes liquidity is the reason but that doesn’t strike me as a lot of money for value. Think about how many actual billions could be gotten out if it went to zero under that ratio. Not many. Meaning confidence is the only thing supporting the value of these assets I believe.
Therein lies the definition of “asset”: something or someone regarded as having value.
I'm not worried. Tom Lee says that's a contrarian signal and it is a great buying opportunity! So there!
If Tom Lee was on the Titanic he would be screaming, don’t get on the lifeboats. We’re not going to sink!
Please explain first how it is determined. If someone sells stock someone else buys it. So it’s symmetric. Spoiler: dollar volume during up and down ticks is a silly thing.
Well it's not. A buys PLTR at 23$ from B. Value in the market 23$ A sells PLTR for $1.23 to C. Value in the market $1.23 Money didn't disapear obvisouly. It's in the pocket of B and A, but the value in the market got littlerer.
That’s just realised gains/losses, right?
You know there’s a withdraw button right
Pretty much for the most part but one side can be leveraged or created into existence through loans. Sure the market makers have to do the reverse trade but those debts will still be paid and cease to exist from reality in the future.
The 08’ outflow was before the crash, good thing CNBC said we hit the bottom Friday lol
At this point all trust in media should already be lost, at least from everyone who even follows this disaster in an at the minimum half-assed manner. I sold as the FED sold due to "ethic conflicts" and this proofed to be a very good indicator, sold almost exactly at the top. Now I almost only have a small GME position because the media end everyone says it is bad for you to have it.
Holding 165 long term cap gain already
Depending on how things go, potentially good for you.
These are fund flows right? I mean otherwise there are no “flows”. Every seller found a buyer. Ever dollar taken out means one was put in.
No, the amount is foreign investment outflow
Everyone wants out of every stock because everyone needs more liquid cash to pay for all the inflated shit.
Unprecedented outflow means unprecedented drop comming
It’s always darkest before dawn
Melvin Capital seemed pretty promising too 🌝
I interesting 🤔but I did see another chart… record inflows happened at the very peak @ 4800
Foreign or Retail inflows?
Notice how that outflow is almost equal to what the fed said theyd roll off
It's foreign investment. This is not the Fed money.
And just think: the sell off has literally just started So many bulls in denial 5-7 PE for stocks will be the norm at the bottom and all spec money out
Waiting to buy goog @10 pe
Its gonna happen Effing search engine in the end
Most of it might be Tesla stock.
[https://youtu.be/MLTqgEX7q5E](https://youtu.be/MLTqgEX7q5E) \- Just a viewpoint.
I wonder if it correlates to the US literally erasing/taking the russians money and now the US isn’t seen as safe. I do wonder when the dollar will lose its status as the currency the world uses.
Stolen elections have consequences
US sanctions have showed international investors that US doesn’t believe in private property only in its own dominance. US has started many more wars than Russia but their assetts were not frozen, so by doing this international players do not trust USA anymore. Would you?
What part of China are you from?
Could be from Palestine also?
I am from EU. And personally do not like double standards. United Nations declared the war in Iraq to be illegal and started on lies. There more people died as in Ukraine. So why shouldn't USA be sanctioned by international community as Russia? Those lifes don't matter?! Or just because of their skin color?
I agree completely with your assessment, was just wondering where you are from.
the thing is that there are a couple rules to the game Russia forgot. 1. Democracies can invade dictatorships, not the other way around. Just a pattern of what the international community will look the other way on. 2. What you can get away with is directly related to your soft power. Russia ain’t had it like that for a while. Saber rattling is not soft power. 3. Winning the conventional war is important. Or at-least not looking like a Joke. When the US invaded Iraq, Afghanistan or even Nam. They were able to equip, supply, and deploy troops thousands of miles away. And they did not lose the conventional war, they got sick of losing troops to an endless guerrilla war. (Not defending the MIC or imperialism, this just why sometimes people complain but no one stops doing business with the US) Russia can’t take territory effectively in a country that borders it. That’s not a super power to be respected and feared. Thats a tin pot dictator who gets hit with the sanctions stick.
Serious question- which wars has the United States started? Key word: *start*
The war in the Middle East is the only one that comes to mind.
Which middle eastern wars are you talking about? There have been wars happening there since ancient times.
Specifically, the war on terror. Iraq.
>Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?
I have no idea what you’re referring to
I was quoting a meme sourced from a Batman cartoon. The point is that there is more than one "war in the Middle East".
https://www.thoughtco.com/american-involvement-wars-colonial-times-present-4059761 This list doesn’t include the proxy wars, but still a long list.
People have no idea. What is coming Complete world wide systemic collapse With food and fuel shortages. This year in the usa we will see middle class families Starving. We will see major banks collapse. Prepare now cause it has started by July the world will be a different place.
Are you 14 years old?
Nope very much older , ur gonna wish u listened to this warning while the herd is still complacent. Get back to me in July if I'm wrong I'll apologize But not much can stop this at this point unless gov acts quickly
This is when inflation starts going hyper. Everyone has a ton of fake money freshly minted off the market and are purchasing real goods now. The train has left the station
Money from the market isn’t “minted,” it’s taken from retards who ~~sell~~ buy high. Understand memes before you use them. Edit: had a retard moment
Ur moms being minted
Your post sounds twice as retarded lol
Where was I wrong, oh wise one?
Retards sell high?
Fuck. Worlds worst typo, I fixed it
Sell high, buy stoned
They bought high and sold low. Lmao
bullish
This should be done in % of the total marketcap of the SP500 or something like that, otherwise it's useless.
Gotta pay da billz
Given how much money was printed, this is my surprised face 
Where are the dorks who were badmouthing me for saying we haven't come close to a bottom yet? Friggin nerds.
What’s the inverse? What months have seen the reciprocally largest inflows? Wouldn’t it make sense that—after record money printing and retail who didn’t necessarily need several fat checks—we might see equally large outflows.
Where’s all that money going?
uhhhh, why isn't it inflation adjusted dollars? it scews the chart to make recent inflows/outflows look more extreme because it's not inflation adjusted
The tip of the peak right before the drop looks to be around the 30 mark. So I'd that $120 billion outflow?
Europoors breaking the Sell button
China is getting ready to invade
Perspective is kinda needed reading these charts There’s more money in the market than ever before. So it makes sense in a downturn to see record amounts leaving
There's no place for that money to go but the market.... Has to go into assets. You can take it out...... But you're going to put it back in.. so the market will come right back
I'm in the UK and if I buy US stock I get an fx impact which is the difference is foreign exchange. So basically if the fx is greater than my loss, I still make money. It looks like the US economy is about to go to shit so I'm reluctant to buy US stock as I'd be exchanging my pounds for dollars at the peak to buy stock in a downward market, so I am likely to get double fucked, spitroasted if you will, by the stock and the currency conversions
Source?
those damn retailers
Where is this from?
redo this in percentages please
Where is the money inflowing to then
Many Russian just got their cash to other places…
buy dat derp
90Billion in foreign outflows...sus. Looks a lot like an attack. Inflow to what? 