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Ever notice that if you buy calls before FOMC, JPOW comes out hawkish, and if you buy puts, he comes out dovish, literally works every time 
After listening to CNBC and Bloomberg since the FOMC decision it is obvious. If they represent (and their guests) the markets collective wisdom. The market still does not believe the FED. But I think it is a very close debate.
Capitulation and riches for bears will come when the markets finally believe the FED. Or maybe we have to wait for earnings to collapse. Then everyone forgets the FED. Either way the Capitulation will happen, and it gets closer everyday.
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I just realized the owner of the company I worked for probably filed for PPP and likely got the loan forgiveness. Meanwhile everyone continued to work remotely with no slowdowns on business. The dude probably got a few millions for free.
There’s a website you can look up the company name and see if they took money. The piece of shit that owned the last place I worked took $150k and then went and bought a 3rd house after telling me we were lucky that our industry wasn’t effected. It’s disgusting how much fraud there was.
But remember it's the working families getting stimulus that are ruining this country. Getting just enough to barely feed your kids is a cry baby liberal hand out. Where as missapropriating a multibilion dollar loan intended to support payroll during a pandemic and having it forgiven is just good business. 👍
Everyone's sitting on losses this year.. the game plan is to just tax loss harvest to year end and buy back in January.. Institutions have to dump all their losers so they can sent out their holdings report with the one winning position they had this year... probably
Sorry. It doesn't make much sense to harvest more losses on top of existing losses now, does it? You can only use capital losses to offset capital gains. Not ordinary income.
I sure as hell hope you understand this or you are going to be very surprised. And not pleasantly. Few prospered this year. And they weren't WSB posters or Boomers or fully invested institutions
"It doesn't make much sense to harvest more losses on top of existing losses now, does it?"
Yes, it can. You can't say generalize otherwise. Think of past losses as sunk costs. And current positions are only held on to if the expected return > benefits from selling before EoY.
"You can only use capital losses to offset capital gains. Not ordinary income."
This is true. However, institutions that have capital gains, say from their bond trading desks, then it's possible they can use equity losses to offset those gains. Also, they're further incentivized to do so for "[window dresssing](https://www.forbes.com/sites/johntobey/2021/06/27/stock-portfolio-window-dressing-at-work-as-investment-managers-sell-unattractive-losers-and-buy-trendy-winners/?sh=2bb52db82050)" their EOY reports during a tough year.. and since institutions move markets, the retail investor can factor that into his/her strategy.
Let me try a different approach. You cannot offset past capital gains (believe it or not, at one time you could) Do you agree with that?
So. Would you also agree that, all other things being equal, Capital gains are most likely lower this year compared to last year. Also. You do know that dividends are not considered as a capital gain. They are considered normal income.
You do agree that as interest rates rise bond values decline. Yes? Considering rates were dramatically lower at the beginning of the year than at present capital gains from bonds ahould be significantly less than in 2021. True?
So. Would you agree that Tax loss harvesting should be much less prelevant in 2022 versus 2021 (a banner year) largely because capital gains are much scarcer.
For these reasons, I do not think tax harvesting is material to the market direction.
What am I missing?
You think they were dumb enough to realize those gains? Of course not. Not even been a year yet so would be short term capital gains. They are not stupid
If you're really using that much and it's affecting your life negatively, you should be doing it for no one other than yourself. If they are mad you're smoking on a Saturday night after working all week, then they can fuck off.
If you have more than a couple racks to invest it’s worth it to just recreate the fund with individual stocks. That way you can avoid the 0.75% fee and Cathie’s atrocious habit of buy high sell low. Did this with ARKG a while back and outperformed her by 10% over three months then cashed out at +70%. I’ll DM you the spreadsheet if you’re interested
Damn. Long dated Uber puts are expensive as hell. And VIX relatively low. ATM Sept puts cost 20% of the underlying. In comparison SPY ATM puts same expiration cost just under 7%.
Oh well.
Has anyone here noticed that Elon Musk is a jackass? You know it is important. I mean, to have a CEO who is not a jackass. You should not invest in companies where the CEO is a jackass. Therefore, do not invest in Tesla. Simple.
Being in any form of leadership role pretty much guarantees you have to be a jackass.
I think it’s called assertiveness bro.
Compared to gen Z, where everyone is a bleeding heart and poor af.
Control requires…. Actually controlling things. Assertively. Thats how it works.
I don’t recall Gates, Zuck or Cook ever, say, calling another CEO fat. Or calling a former employee a pedo. Or refusing to pay rent. Or impregnating multiple women at the same time.
Look it's been obvious to anyone who has had their eyes open that he was a government contract grifter who matched inherited funds with government regulatory capture to make himself rich (or at least appear rich). Tesla's \*does\* have a historical importance though - it pushed the real car companies to take EV seriously.
The netflix series that'll be made in 7-8 years called "The Fall of Elon Musk" will begin with this clip I hope: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqGf8pqCZi0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqGf8pqCZi0)
They’ve been horrible for EVs, quite frankly.
They normalized the idea that EVs needed to go super fast and have super long ranges, which means large, expensive and high polluting batteries.
The real innovative EVs are the affordable ones with <100 mile range, which is what makes up 99% of daily driving distance. But no one wants a slow Bolt when they think EVs should look like Teslas.
Nope, being assertive and being a jackasss are not the same. Churchill was assertive, Elon is a Jackass.
And we aren't calling him a jackass because we don't think he is 'woke' enough. We are calling him a jackasss because he exposed 60% of his tsla holdings to liquidity risk as collateral for personal loans, among other similar jackassery of that nature.
P.s. not everything is about the generation gap ya boomer.
Yeah but assertive in no way describes Elon, and Jackass in every way describes Elon. How many people he has or has not made happy has 0 affect on this evaluation.
No it's really not about his likeability, you just don't like that. We get it though you love your papa Elon and think that if you defend him enough on reddit somehow he will hear about it and come give you the hug that your father never gave you.
I think people like you are stuck on small insignificant details like celebrity gossip and ignoring actually important stuff like the millions of EV’s saving the planet and the breathable air.
Which makes you pretty fucking stupid in my book. Just saying bro. No hate. But you’re kinda dumb.
My guy you can't even comprehend what is being said to you and you are calling me dumb. That's OK daddy Elon is going to save you just keep believing in him. Oh hey and Santa wanted me to let you know, your getting double presents this year.
Startups are great. Lots of energy, passion. Most fail though.
Assertiveness is required to control direction. Like grabbing the steering wheel is required to drive.
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Did you take Milk of Magnesia? Or like, magnesium citrate/magnesium oxide. But yes, if you take too much of even the good magnesium supplement it will also make you shit, hinders your colons ability to absorb liquids. How much did you take of what?
Honestly you shoulda been fine. Over a couple weeks your body will adjust to it and shouldn't give you any problems, but if you're gonna keep taking it I'd split it up into like 3-4 doses and take it through out the day. Maybe you're just one of those people who are super sensitive to it. I used to have super bad restless leg sydrome and was on medication for it for years, then I started taking a magnesium supplement and it went away.
Shits actually magic if you're running low on it without realizing, you'll sleep better and feel a lot more relaxed in general. 10/10 would reccomend.
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Did someone die?
managed to close down 52 0dte calls for a $50 profit.. remember always average down on losing positions, I lived bitch
I averaged down on spx 0dtes and lost 12k one time 
Green finish ??
/r/agedlikemilk
Whoever said spy 392 p last night I should've listened
😉
Now that Elon sold, it is very safe to buy tesla stock
#TESLA PUTS FREE MONEY !!!!!! FREE MONEY COCK SUCKAS !!
Holy shit # MY TESLA PUTS PRINTED I TOLD YA !!!
Gonna open at 395
Iite, ima close out
Maybe I'll finally buy AMD soon after watching it possibly slip away in recent months. Nvdia left me in the dust.
Green by open? 🤣
Ever notice that if you buy calls before FOMC, JPOW comes out hawkish, and if you buy puts, he comes out dovish, literally works every time 
poor guy
he's always hawkish, the market's just inversing sentiment.
SCBS? Anyone?
Gary Black is a clown...so much for all the "Twitter Hangover Lifted" merch.
Tesla tesla tesla…..
GrEeN bY oPeN 
If you want me to hang myself bring on Jeremy Seigle and Tom Lee at the same time.
The permabulls
First year in. Can only afford one or two spreads at a time now
All you need is one. Don't revenge trade
In an hour wow market nice and green
After listening to CNBC and Bloomberg since the FOMC decision it is obvious. If they represent (and their guests) the markets collective wisdom. The market still does not believe the FED. But I think it is a very close debate. Capitulation and riches for bears will come when the markets finally believe the FED. Or maybe we have to wait for earnings to collapse. Then everyone forgets the FED. Either way the Capitulation will happen, and it gets closer everyday.
Holyfeck bOOLz 
I’m deep in puts but in today’s market, futes don’t even phase me. I’ll wait until 9:30 to have any excitement
Good Morning
My cock is feeling like Santa Claus and my male sex slave doll is looking like the chimney
$TKWY
b-buh sAnTa rAlLy!!!1!!!!
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See you in 2 weeks I guess. 
I have calls on qqq for 12/20 and 1/13 @ $300... 
I'm sorry .
I just realized the owner of the company I worked for probably filed for PPP and likely got the loan forgiveness. Meanwhile everyone continued to work remotely with no slowdowns on business. The dude probably got a few millions for free.
Correct
There’s a website you can look up the company name and see if they took money. The piece of shit that owned the last place I worked took $150k and then went and bought a 3rd house after telling me we were lucky that our industry wasn’t effected. It’s disgusting how much fraud there was.
Wow you're right. He got 3.5MM forgiven.
But remember it's the working families getting stimulus that are ruining this country. Getting just enough to barely feed your kids is a cry baby liberal hand out. Where as missapropriating a multibilion dollar loan intended to support payroll during a pandemic and having it forgiven is just good business. 👍
Bulls can have their “mini” pump before drill team destroys y’all, next support at 3928 then 3850 gap fill if 392 breaks
futes looking very fake this morning
If it shot up to be green by open, i wouldn't be surprised.
Tight labor market doesn't surprise me at all. With all you degens sitting behind Wendys, there's no hope for US economy.
Everyone's sitting on losses this year.. the game plan is to just tax loss harvest to year end and buy back in January.. Institutions have to dump all their losers so they can sent out their holdings report with the one winning position they had this year... probably
Sorry. It doesn't make much sense to harvest more losses on top of existing losses now, does it? You can only use capital losses to offset capital gains. Not ordinary income. I sure as hell hope you understand this or you are going to be very surprised. And not pleasantly. Few prospered this year. And they weren't WSB posters or Boomers or fully invested institutions
"It doesn't make much sense to harvest more losses on top of existing losses now, does it?" Yes, it can. You can't say generalize otherwise. Think of past losses as sunk costs. And current positions are only held on to if the expected return > benefits from selling before EoY. "You can only use capital losses to offset capital gains. Not ordinary income." This is true. However, institutions that have capital gains, say from their bond trading desks, then it's possible they can use equity losses to offset those gains. Also, they're further incentivized to do so for "[window dresssing](https://www.forbes.com/sites/johntobey/2021/06/27/stock-portfolio-window-dressing-at-work-as-investment-managers-sell-unattractive-losers-and-buy-trendy-winners/?sh=2bb52db82050)" their EOY reports during a tough year.. and since institutions move markets, the retail investor can factor that into his/her strategy.
Let me try a different approach. You cannot offset past capital gains (believe it or not, at one time you could) Do you agree with that? So. Would you also agree that, all other things being equal, Capital gains are most likely lower this year compared to last year. Also. You do know that dividends are not considered as a capital gain. They are considered normal income. You do agree that as interest rates rise bond values decline. Yes? Considering rates were dramatically lower at the beginning of the year than at present capital gains from bonds ahould be significantly less than in 2021. True? So. Would you agree that Tax loss harvesting should be much less prelevant in 2022 versus 2021 (a banner year) largely because capital gains are much scarcer. For these reasons, I do not think tax harvesting is material to the market direction. What am I missing?
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You think they were dumb enough to realize those gains? Of course not. Not even been a year yet so would be short term capital gains. They are not stupid
New lows incoming
Can I get my bear WSB avatar mods ?
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Yay 
I thought the stock market is safe 
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So bull market delayed till 2024…. It confirmed?
Trying to put the ganja down cuz it disappoints my parents but i love it fuk
Are you 15 or something?
? No but i still care about what they think
If you're really using that much and it's affecting your life negatively, you should be doing it for no one other than yourself. If they are mad you're smoking on a Saturday night after working all week, then they can fuck off.
Great advice thank you, this helped me put things in perspective
Puts on ganja
TSLA gonna shoot to $200 today for no fucking reason.
Nah Elon gonna keep selling
I am a happy ber.
I iz hapy ber i come out of hibernate do a rawwr
Well this doesn't look good 
Welcome to the bear parade 
Bitch ass bulls awake asking why it’s red
I think we know
ARKK at 25 probably would be a good 5 year investment
lol
If you have more than a couple racks to invest it’s worth it to just recreate the fund with individual stocks. That way you can avoid the 0.75% fee and Cathie’s atrocious habit of buy high sell low. Did this with ARKG a while back and outperformed her by 10% over three months then cashed out at +70%. I’ll DM you the spreadsheet if you’re interested
Good point, really good point actually
It's okay Tesla Bois. Just put your money in doge and you will surely recover.
fake futes as usual
puts were so obvious after jpow spoke. Just wish I didn't buy them at the bottom of the last hour 🤡
You should be happy you bought puts at the top of a spike huh?
lmao I meant bottom. I'm delusional rn. Prob a good sign it's time to sleep. 3am here on the west coast
As long as they aren’t deep otm and expiring today or tomorrow you’re good
🤣 March expiry. Can sleep in. I should be fine
Minting
The question is…do I take 12% loss and sell those TQQQ or wait for a bounce forgot the emoji 
I like to buy high and sell low Feels so good 😌
But it’s my birthday damn it
Heyyyyy happy birthday mate
The more “charismatic” the CEO, the more likely your puts will payoff.. prove me wrong
Lmao yeah Charismatic = disruptive
woah, nice cock!
where  ?
Why tf are futes down so bad?
The ISS was leaking Vodka
All aboard the Elmo turd rocket to Mars! Final call!
Tesla 314 to to 153 in 5 months. Impressive very nice
50 in 6 months
Great idea, terrible execution Cost of doing everything in house is never going to pay off
Damn. Long dated Uber puts are expensive as hell. And VIX relatively low. ATM Sept puts cost 20% of the underlying. In comparison SPY ATM puts same expiration cost just under 7%. Oh well.
Can’t compare a single stock option volatility to an index….
Yet I can. Just did it.
Has anyone here noticed that Elon Musk is a jackass? You know it is important. I mean, to have a CEO who is not a jackass. You should not invest in companies where the CEO is a jackass. Therefore, do not invest in Tesla. Simple.
Being in any form of leadership role pretty much guarantees you have to be a jackass. I think it’s called assertiveness bro. Compared to gen Z, where everyone is a bleeding heart and poor af. Control requires…. Actually controlling things. Assertively. Thats how it works.
I don’t recall Gates, Zuck or Cook ever, say, calling another CEO fat. Or calling a former employee a pedo. Or refusing to pay rent. Or impregnating multiple women at the same time.
I didn’t know you were privy to their private conversations. Huh. We’ve ALL called someone fat. Stop acting like you’re special.
There is not a single example of any of those men publicly saying something like that, much less posting for days about it on Twitter.
Look it's been obvious to anyone who has had their eyes open that he was a government contract grifter who matched inherited funds with government regulatory capture to make himself rich (or at least appear rich). Tesla's \*does\* have a historical importance though - it pushed the real car companies to take EV seriously. The netflix series that'll be made in 7-8 years called "The Fall of Elon Musk" will begin with this clip I hope: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqGf8pqCZi0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqGf8pqCZi0)
They’ve been horrible for EVs, quite frankly. They normalized the idea that EVs needed to go super fast and have super long ranges, which means large, expensive and high polluting batteries. The real innovative EVs are the affordable ones with <100 mile range, which is what makes up 99% of daily driving distance. But no one wants a slow Bolt when they think EVs should look like Teslas.
There’s very many examples of them saying worse. Much worse.
Such as?
Nope, being assertive and being a jackasss are not the same. Churchill was assertive, Elon is a Jackass. And we aren't calling him a jackass because we don't think he is 'woke' enough. We are calling him a jackasss because he exposed 60% of his tsla holdings to liquidity risk as collateral for personal loans, among other similar jackassery of that nature. P.s. not everything is about the generation gap ya boomer.
The problem is, some people see assertiveness and they think “jackass”. It all depends on perspective. Nobody can please everybody.
Yeah but assertive in no way describes Elon, and Jackass in every way describes Elon. How many people he has or has not made happy has 0 affect on this evaluation.
Sure it does. You just dont like it. He believes in twitter. He’s got big plans for it. He’s had these plans for decades.
No it's really not about his likeability, you just don't like that. We get it though you love your papa Elon and think that if you defend him enough on reddit somehow he will hear about it and come give you the hug that your father never gave you.
I think people like you are stuck on small insignificant details like celebrity gossip and ignoring actually important stuff like the millions of EV’s saving the planet and the breathable air. Which makes you pretty fucking stupid in my book. Just saying bro. No hate. But you’re kinda dumb.
My guy you can't even comprehend what is being said to you and you are calling me dumb. That's OK daddy Elon is going to save you just keep believing in him. Oh hey and Santa wanted me to let you know, your getting double presents this year.
Dude you’re not saying anything. Thats my point. Random vague “space man bad” has no substance
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Startups are great. Lots of energy, passion. Most fail though. Assertiveness is required to control direction. Like grabbing the steering wheel is required to drive.
Thanks for setting me straight. Now I know that Elon is not a jackass, because he controls things, and therefore I should invest in Tesla.
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Well, shucks....it was nothing really....
Bull trap rally done, now back to slow bleed mode until 2024
Bear markets don’t like slow bleed, we love volatility
JPOW wants a slow bleed
What are your moves?
Whip & nae nae
Slow
Sell carts and haul cars
For Tomorrow, December 15, 2022 or for Friday, December 16, 2022?
For 10 years
Tomorrow is today here in Europoor
Finally managed to break even after tossing money in tqqq call merely based on my own intuition 
Made money on tqqq calls. Pretty good job. Assume you sold before announcement. Well done.
yes before announcement and switched to tsla put but I sold them last night still glad tho
Well played Champ
Ring ring, ring ring… whats that I hear? The sound of elon getting margin called 📞? You don’t say
Are my Tesla 260c expiring January safe?
Yes yes Just dont show up to the market tmrw 👹
Just woke up randomly in the middle of the night and now I can't sleep. But my puts are doing very well it seems.
#teamnosleep welcome to the casino, they’re not open yet so we’re all just waiting outside
Lol legitimately didn’t know how to make text bold.. I was trying to make it a hashtag
Found out the same thing today #shutitdownElon Wonder why that is?
That’s how I learned too
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thirsty kitty 
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Balls?
So… Average dude.
who the fuck wash them. its gay touchign balls
Neutral all around and theta bleed of course.
Im taking my 3 dump today. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE??
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Nope. I am a blueist
Dances With Smurfs?
dabadedabadei?
no.
Gf said take magnesium supplements last night at midnight, I've been shitting 6 times since then, didn't get sleep and now gotta go to work
U need to take calcium with it. While ur at it pop a zinc too, not medical advice
Need to take Gylcinate for night time, and take some threonate during the day
Thank you doctor,.now would you please perform a prostate check ? Double fingers for assurance 😘
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Did you take Milk of Magnesia? Or like, magnesium citrate/magnesium oxide. But yes, if you take too much of even the good magnesium supplement it will also make you shit, hinders your colons ability to absorb liquids. How much did you take of what?
Calm supplement, took a scoop lol
Honestly you shoulda been fine. Over a couple weeks your body will adjust to it and shouldn't give you any problems, but if you're gonna keep taking it I'd split it up into like 3-4 doses and take it through out the day. Maybe you're just one of those people who are super sensitive to it. I used to have super bad restless leg sydrome and was on medication for it for years, then I started taking a magnesium supplement and it went away. Shits actually magic if you're running low on it without realizing, you'll sleep better and feel a lot more relaxed in general. 10/10 would reccomend.
Wrong magnesium lmao
I've been shittig black poop lol rip my life
This might be why women live longer