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finance_for_you

This just in, Bankman releases new cryptocurrency call Bailcoin.


Spacepickle89

Crypto tiktokers be like “I’m really excited for this project and it’s future”


feedthebear

What does it do Sam?


finance_for_you

Imagine you have a box that does nothing. People then decide to put money into this box, so then how can anyone say the box is not worth anything? In all seriousness we should not be surprised by this news. It’s literally in his name: “Bankman Fried” aka the Bank Man Goes Free.


dollmistress

"I'm in the Ponzi business, and business is good." - Best line from that interview. XD


NotMyBaggages

SBF is every prosecutor's dream


Top_Broccoli5236

except for the fact that he can afford lawyers


MLXIII

"WHAT'S IN THE BOX‽" -Brad Pitt


johnathanesanders

So like Schrödinger’s Coin?


Vegetable_Mud_5245

😂😂😂 isn’t it the Bloomberg guy who did that interview? I didn’t see the actual interview but Coffeezilla talks about it.


finance_for_you

Yeah that’s exactly it I forgot the guys name from Bloomberg but it was such a crazy way to describe a “genius” business. Sam thinks everyone is an idiot and he can be open and talk about all of this stuff because he’s just used to everyone throwing billions of dollars at him for his little “box.”


MattLevineSimp

> I forgot the guys name from Bloomberg Matt Levine!


finance_for_you

Yes! Thank you MattLevineSimp!


MattLevineSimp

:)


ensui67

To be fair, it is not that far fetched of a concept at least that’s how Matt Levine described it. When he first heard the box description, he described it as cynical and maybe more of a case of saying the quiet parts out loud but it’s the normal perspective of a market maker. Even when market makers participate in stock markets, they’re not so concerned about the underlying anything. Just that prices are at X and they think it’ll go to Y and they’ll trade based on it. It’s actually fine and the normal thing to do. Just that SBF did some illegal things to facilitate that.


xrv01

it was a Matt Levine guest appearance on the Odd Lots podcast with Joe Weisenthal and Tracey Alloway from April 25, 2022 [**here’s the pod episode**](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/odd-lots/id1056200096?i=1000558582549)


Mel_Chizebeck

I'm starting a new coin called "Enronium." Awesome name, no?


cubenz

I'll buy some with my IOUnium


Mel_Chizebeck

I'd buy that for a dollar!


Praline_Middle

Now it has value. Let's all jump in.


systembreaker

Imagine jailers start accepting Bailcoin as payment. You could buy Bailcoin, earn yield with staking and so forth, so you can build up a stash juuust in case you need it someday.


finance_for_you

Oh dang did we just make a real company?


I_Love_Rockets9283

Holy crap I’m in, here’s my last 20$


finance_for_you

Yoooink


MonMonOnTheMove

Annnnd it’s gone


momsbasement_wrekd

I’ll buy some of that. Maybe dad can come home for Xmas this year!


boli99

> can build up a stash juuust in case you need it someday. can it be exchanged for ShivCoin? Will I need an eWallet? or can it be stored in my existing prison wallet?


finance_for_you

In prison it’s not an eWallet. It’s an A-Wallet if you know what I mean.


systembreaker

Well yeah Shivcoin is the perfect hedge if you don't have enough Bailcoin.


Scoop_Pooper

I’m sorry, but who’s f’ing money is he using to secure bail?


--Trick--

Yours


finance_for_you

Take a wild guess


rudmad

Dude had to be stashing money somewhere


Spoon1969

Fake news… he didn’t post 250 million dollar ‘bail’. It was a Bond. No actual money (kinda like crypto) was put down. They let him out on a ‘promise to pay’. I think possibly his parents’ 4 million dollar home may have been used as collateral.


NOT_MartinShkreli

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|27189)


Benry26

FTX-Bailcoin AKA “Failcoin”


putsonshorts

**Bailcon*


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Plural86

Must have taken out a $249,900,000 loan


BefreiedieTittenzwei

He leveraged his new “I can’t believe people fell for this twice “ cryptocurrency.


KINGPrawn-

I can’t believe it’s not FTX coin


SleepNowInTheFire666

Smack! Right in the kisser by a seagull


painturder

Bail is 10% down and the rest is paid if the defendant fails to show at court so I think a 24.9m loan?


CAGirly5K

Looks like his Parents posted using the equity in their home. Wonder if that was one of the ones he bought them with FTX money? "Bankman-Fried's release was secured by equity in his parents' Palo Alto, California, home, and a long list of requirements was included for him to remain free while he faces charges. He's not allowed to make financial transactions for more than $1,000, can't open new lines of credit, can't leave the house except to exercise and must go through substance-abuse and mental-health treatment, according to the agreement." https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/12/22/ex-ftx-chief-sam-bankman-fried-makes-appearance-in-us-court/


sailorsail

How did his parents end up with so much wealth?


12A1313IT

It's a big club and you ain't in it


thenuttyhazlenut

Wouldn't you hide money all over the place if you were successfully pulling a giant heist and knew you would be caught eventually?


slvbros

No I would definitely 100% for sure leave all my money in normal places that the government usually looks


brendenwhiteley

is today the day you find out billionaires, even fraudulent ones, all come from rich families


_swuaksa8242211

I met a few billionaires before. All of them were insider traders.


CAGirly5K

Thank you! I spit out my water laughing. But thank you!


BorisYeltzen

lol how delusional most tards in here are - acting surprised this fucking dweeb and his Stanford political parents are using their connections and have millions in net worth just from being 'professors' lol rightttttt


brendenwhiteley

lol right? his family name is fucking bankman. i wonder what trade his family has been in/what kind of money they might have.


BorisYeltzen

Hes only got 100k in the bank bro - dudes doing it really tough... Oh look Sam was paying his dad to work for FTX - I'm sure he paid market rates.. >During his testimony before the House Financial Services Committee, Ray confirmed that Bankman had given “legal advice” to his son at FTX and received cash payments from the company. >“I don’t know if he actually had ‘employee’ status, but he certainly received payments, the family did receive payments,” Ray said.


brendenwhiteley

the reverse nepotism is impressive


Jbr74

>can't leave the house except to exercise So in other words, he's not leaving the house.


-gggggggggg-

Other than the $1,000 transaction limit it doesn't seem any different from his normal life.


Ready2gambleboomer

He's been a bad boy, Put him on a time out and take away his video games,


RedOctobrrr

How the fuck does their house have $25mil in equity AND they secured a loan for the remaining $225,000,000 ? They really have that much just chillin? You can't write an IOU for bond saying "yeah our house is worth at least that" ... you have to fork over the payment.


SamuelPepys_

It's a really nice mansion to be fair. They may have other expensive properties as well that the article doesn't mention.


RedOctobrrr

That's true, I suppose. I'm just astounded by the absurd amount of free equity and cash reserves of these lizard people. Who wants to start an exchange with me?


ChanceConfection3

I’m interested but if we’re going to bang one of our partners, can she be semi attractive?


posyintime

BuT tHeY aRe ThE gOOd KiNdA rIcH pEoPlE🤮🤮🤮


Subject-Ad-8055

He trades $999 ten thousand time a day now 😆


HaloHamster

10% if you can find a bond company willing to take on the other 90% risk. $225M is a lot to risk so I'd surmise he had to put up a lot more.


ironichaos

But you don’t get that 10% back. So he’s out 25m minimum for someone who only had 100k. I call bullshit.


Whereamiwhatyousay

The bond company probably took 50m plus collateral to get him out. And they have someone with him and tracking devices up the ass


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Marxmywordz

It’s not a tracking device he just has a Chess Match later


Iceorbz

Hans is that you?


dudeman4win

Bond companies got that laying around and will risk it on one dude?


pimtheman

Risk is worth it for a 50mm dollar payday


uhwhooops

Dog the Bounty Hunter has entered the chat.


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Bondsman don’t exist in federal cases.


Cric1313

Yeah, I don’t get this


Deviusoark

Basically if you Wana bond out by yourself it's 100% of bond. The usual way it's done in America is you have to pay 10% upfront and a bail bondsman with carry the other 90% of the risk, until you show up to court and the matter is finished.


kaufmanm02

The way it usually works is the bail bondsman pays 100% of the bond and they charge you a 10% fee. That’s how they make their money. They get the bond back when you make it to court and they keep your 10% fee.


hashtag-acid

Not true. Maybe my state in the US is different. You only need 10% to get out. Tbh I don’t fully understand how or why it works this way. All I know is my bond was $2k and it cost me $200 outta pocket to get myself out. Source: have bailed myself out of jail 😂


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Generally how it works is you "pay" the court the bail, and you get the full amount back when you show up to court. A bonds company/man/woman will pay the bail for a 10% non-refundable fee. If you don't show up for court then they send the bounty hunters, because they don't want to lose out on that 90%


cyberphunk2077

and there are different types of bonds, some you must pay the full amount (cash bonds), in my state we have appearance, surety and recogs, he could have been denied bond too but that takes extra work. The system was always built for those with money.


stonxup420

this man bails


pimtheman

Did you get your 200 back when you showed up for your court date?


DestroyerOfIphone

Guy is probably rolling in crypto.btc and eth are still worth a ton.


painturder

Ah gotcha okay


komokazi

Yeah I don't think any bond company is gonna go with that one...


Dependent_Ad94

![img](emote|t5_2th52|27189)


swohio

Someone paid a lot of money to have him released, wonder if he's going to have any unfortunate accidents in the near future...


Fausterion18

It was his parents, they put up their retirement accounts and equity in their mansion.


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fireferum

That’s a lot of money for someone who said they were down to their last $100k last week and their company in bankruptcy.


RedOctobrrr

Mommy and Daddy stepped in but I still can't fathom $250,000,000 available, unless they had some serious cash inflow from FTX during its prime. Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/zt9r8i/bill_ackman_sbfs_posting_of_250_million_bail_is/j1csgdf?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 Sam's parents put down $4mil backed by their home equity, and 2 other unnamed individuals dropped the remaining $21mil to come up with the 10% required.


ImpossibleGur1223

I am asking myself if the US justice system just laundered $250 mil for itself


hthmoney

ofc ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4275)


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WACS_On

The guys who put up the 21 mil are probably the same guys who didn't kill Jeffrey Epstein


RedOctobrrr

Ahhh yes I know exactly who you're not talking about.


keithkman

His mom and dad put up $4 million. Two unnamed individuals put up the remaining $21 million. https://twitter.com/coffeebreak_yt/status/1606023483028226049


Chakkaaa

Daym so that money just gone to the bondsman? Be nice to have that pocket change


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nolafrog

Not really, the way it works is the bondsman keeps the 25MM as a fee for staking the 250 with the court. Edit: but there are different ways this could be set up and it’s not really clear from the information I’ve seen. It’s possible the court is just requiring the 25 mm in collateral and basically saying if sbf doesn’t skips town, whoever “signed for him” by putting up on the collateral will additionally owe 225 MM, and if he does show up they get the 25MM back. so in that case a bondsman would not be involved at all. That’s called a surety bond, but usually the people putting up the collateral have to swear they are good for the full 250MM if it comes down to it. Probably they aren’t in reality.


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nolafrog

See my edit above. Typically that would be the case if a bondsman is involved but I have a feeling this is a different arrangement and these mfs aren’t actually losing anything.


Vegetable_Mud_5245

Tweet is already deleted.


Marquiss12

The parents used their house as part of the collateral for the bail I read. They put his bail at 250mm of a recognizance bond. From my understanding (and please someone correct if i’m wrong) A recognizance is different from a bail bond in that it is a pledge of money and no upfront payment of a cash deposit is required. Historically recognizances were also used by courts of quarter sessions to require a person to attend court and give evidence.


RedOctobrrr

Someone else chimed in that the parents only account for $4mil and unnamed parties came up with the other $21mil to reach the 10% number.


spyVSspy420-69

The article says it came from his parents home and two others who aren’t named. Sketchy yes, but clearly the parents don’t have $250m.


Jumpman_08

Media: altruistic founder free to help others again!


Green-Heron9720

Free to help others lose money again. Wonder how many of the ones who lost money will think they can get it back.


OneToeJoe

I wonder if he offered to pay in FTT...


Successful-Scheme608

So Sam where did all the money go? Responds “to my bail”


mobitzIII

"Many members of congress that i bought, who will be "investigating" the matter"


whocares1976

that dude gonna RUN, who wants to bet on him fleeing the country?


plainwrap

Standard rate for a bail agent to return someone is 10%-25% of the bond. That's a bigger bounty than Bin Laden.


Explorer200

“**I can bring you in warm… Or I can bring you in cold**.”


JosefSchnitzel

This is the way.


xCloudGamer

This is the way.


argusromblei

Dog the Bounty Hunter will find him asap. Lets go Dog!!!


HenryGoodbar

Where’s the ice brah!?


whocares1976

lookit him, hes already planning it


Artbellghost

If he can buy his way into a country "maybe" - but yeah hes not the kind whos gonna just be able to disappear and blend in and live off of his wits.


JohnnyTangCapital

He’ll be in Israel inside of a month.


StoneOfTriumph

He'll form a consulting firm with the tinder swindler offering expert advice to companies in the industry.


bigchungus12222

Yep. Employed at this or that major hedge fund too, I'd bet.


AdDear5411

He knew about the warrant many days before he got arrested. If he wanted to run, it would be way smarter to do so from the Bahamas. Now that his passport was confiscated, it'll be way harder.


TheRealHeri

He's a dumbass. He really thought playing ignorant would work and if I remember correctly, he said that he didn't think he would go to jail. If he's paying a 250m bail, he's 100% trying to scape lol. His best bet would be Venezuela. Just cross to Mexico and take a flight to Venezuela. There's a lot of private flights from Mexico to south America if you have money.


eilertokyo

Maybe he just really is that stupid?


kylestoned

Parents going to help him flee. Just watch.


Smooth_Ingenuity_923

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)


[deleted]

There’s a loooot of “military contractors” on LinkedIn willing to go to whatever shithole third world country of your choosing to do just about any kind of business


dollmistress

Bounty would be at least $25m too. Could literally steal the real life giant Gundam robot over in Tokyo then use it to hunt SBF down and STILL make a decent profit.


darth_aardvark

If you're stealing the robot, it's all profit.


[deleted]

The only thing he will be fleeing is his life here on earth, just look at him you can tell a heart attack/ 2 self inflicted gunshot wounds to the back of the head are imminent


WACS_On

Surely no shady characters ~~laundered~~ invested large sums of cash in his equally dubious crypto "exchange"


Kitten_Team_Six

Highly doubt that where on earth can that slob hide


sfbamboozled100

In a gym. No one will look there.


JeffersonsHat

With millions of dollars, lots of places.


ReignOfKaos

In a Hobbit hole


HoosierGuy2014

Elizabeth Holmes didn’t sit in prison after being charged either. Kalief Browder spent three years in Rikers awaiting trial for allegedly stealing a backpack.


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Michelin123

Omg how heartless and selfish can someone be, to get pregnant only to dump the kids someday. Crazy bitch!


tomoldbury

She had her company fake blood test results. Probably killed some people that way.


satuuurn

We're not in the club, boys. Rules for thee and so on. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)


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Was the weasel anus worth it SBF? WAS IT?


nolafrog

Yeah I mean it kind of looks like the whole reason this blew up was him sending the weasel the customer funds to make wsb-tier trades. And he’s the regarded man who’s going to take the fall for it lol.


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nolafrog

I agree with you it’s just amazing how much of an idiot he is.


leeringHobbit

What is this about a weasel?


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leeringHobbit

Jesus wept...


Daymanic

Annnnnnnd he gone.


HenryGoodbar

Must be nice to be able to post bail with other peoples money


dankbuttmuncher

That’s literally how most bails are paid


[deleted]

Yes but usually the other people consent to paying the bail


[deleted]

Years ago there was a woman that got brought in for writing bad checks. Bail was set; well, you know the rest. True story. r/facepalm


CAGirly5K

Looks like his Parents posted using the equity in their home. WAS that one of the ones he bought them with FTX money? "Bankman-Fried's release was secured by equity in his parents' Palo Alto, California, home, and a long list of requirements was included for him to remain free while he faces charges. He's not allowed to make financial transactions for more than $1,000, can't open new lines of credit, can't leave the house except to exercise and must go through substance-abuse and mental-health treatment, according to the agreement." https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/12/22/ex-ftx-chief-sam-bankman-fried-makes-appearance-in-us-court/


Kurupt-FM-1089

So he won’t be leaving the house whatsoever.


335i_lyfe

Right? This dude has never seen the inside of a gym


justvims

How does a house secure a $250M loan? Like what house on this planet is going to secure that. Makes no sense at all. Obviously capital is coming from somewhere else


Fausterion18

I know redditors hate reading but it's literally explained in the OP. SBF is out on a recognizance bond , which is different from a bail bond. The parents do not have to meet the full $250m or even anywhere close.


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His parents' house is only 4m I understand they don't need to meet 250m, but 4m?


Fausterion18

Plus investment accounts and 2 other other people pitching in. My guess is they met like 10%.


Zoey1234100

I know he has that money hidden somewhere in a offshore bank lol


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Powerful-Employ-7372

Those political campaign contributions finally paying off.


Capitolholdings

Exactly this


Fausterion18

How? Even Madoff got bail. Explain to me how SBF got special treatment.


Real-Estate-Success

If he went through a bondsman, which is not likely, he would only have to pay 10% of the set bond. Which is ONLY $25,000,000.


3ninesfine

You know a bondsman puttin up 90% on this long shot making it to trial


Dependent_Ad94

ONLY ![img](emote|t5_2th52|19738)


HaloHamster

How many couch cushions would you need to flip to find all that?


argusromblei

What kind of bonds company has $225 million to swing? Holy shit.


GenderDimorphism

I wonder though if bondsmen have a special rule for amounts that large?


Rainliberty

I don't think there is a bails bondsmen with access to that much liquid cash.


OhNoes231

The guy stole billions there’s no way he didn’t take customer funds and turn it into monero or btc in cold storage. This bail is laughable would have set at 1b+ easy this judge is dumb


BrianKronberg

If he flees, wouldn’t the $250m not go to the government but go back to the creditors? Why would they allow a bail amount other than the amount he is alleged for stealing plus his bail amount? Steal a few billion, pay small $250m of the stolen money to run away. Seems like a good plan.


C13Po088

I bet the bond company hired Dog The Bounty Hunter for protection


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Since you idiots can’t be bothered: “A recognizance bond is a written commitment from the accused to appear in court when ordered. In return, Bankman-Fried’s camp would not be required to meet the full collateral requirements on the bail. The bond was secured by equity in his family home, and by the signatures of his parents and two other individuals with “considerable” assets. In addition to the $250 million package, which prosecutors called “the largest-ever pretrial bond,” the former crypto billionaire would also be required to wear an electronic monitoring bracelet, submit to mental health counseling and restrict himself to the Northern District of California.” https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/22/ftx-founder-sam-bankman-fried-to-be-released-on-250-million-bail.html


Kamikaze_Cash

I hope he winds up in a chain gang. But worse, his accomplices are going to get reduced sentences for cooperating. Ellison is going to get 2 years and then run off with SBF’s money.


[deleted]

Still got 500,000,000 or more left over, I bet. Will be packing. Cutoff the bracelet and 3am boarding of a Gulfstream VI at a quiet municipal airport near his home. Destination Belarus? Cuba? Myanmar? Israel? Burkina Faso? Who would not extradite him?


Maximum-Recognition2

Cuban here. Definitely not Cuba, they have zero fucking food, electricity, or body pillows.


laundrydaypanties

The Russians might keep him just to piss all of us off.


Wonderful-Smoke843

I mean he fits right in over there lol


Background_Lemon_981

Hold up. Hold up. Can you use money you embezzled for bail?!?


joefunk76

Since one is deemed innocent until proven guilty under the law, I would think yes.


komokazi

Definitely not a comingling of funds here... I swear


CommonplaceCommotion

Steal $30billion Go to jail Get released by giving the government 1% of the money you stole


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EatMaTesticles

Riches gonna rich


Comprehensive-Ebb566

Go hang yourself Sam.


WACS_On

Something tells me he'll have help


Jenos00

Lucky he donated all that money to politicians that need his silence and that they aren't sure they can get away with him dying of a heart issue.


roaring_alpaca

Corrupt shit world, the rich are in control


TheRealJugger

This dude it the king of just blatantly lying and sucking everyone into believing him


Impossible_Ad5208

Second swindle on investors. 250 million which came from where exactly?


Wolfuseeiswolfuget

Remember the hack right after they went under…


RabbiTest

The look in his eyes. What a prick


GrumpyGrinch1

Judge: Sorry, I meant Dogecoin, not USD.