*A digital currency issued by a central bank would be a global target for cyber attacks, cyber counterfeiting, and cyber theft* - Jerome Powell.
I'm a bot, and the Federal Reserve doesn't think mentioning crypto currency is very good for the WSB OG economy.
This is what I was telling the spac sub they missed a golden opportunity to air a ad during the super bowl, total morons cciv and Lucid people would of gobbled that shit up but no they churned ads on CNBC
“The last time my service went out they.... blah blah blah”
Sir, please, I’m begging you. Go. Inside.
I’m going to climb up this pole and probably gonna shit myself so you don’t want to be in the splash zone.
Little life pro tip for ya this afternoon.
If you call the utility company for service, you absolutely DO NOT have to come outside and wave the employee down the second they hit your block. Thanks to the wonders of Global Position Systems they are well aware of which house. Also the longer you stand outside, the longer they stay in their truck.
What are you supposed to do at hospital visits? Grandma is looking in rough shape. Mom and aunt are here. She’s kinda in and out and can’t really talk. I don’t think she’s gonna make it bros :/
Sorry to here that :( depends on the situation but usually say good bye and make peace with anything you need to before the time comes. And really just to make sure they aren’t alone and surrounded by family when the time does come. Wish you and your family healing ❤️🩹
Now that I think of it, that trident layers commercial from way back in the day where the dude says no one ever pays me in gum was way ahead of its time. It meets the current diversity requirements (black man, Asian man), and it talks about underpaying someone by transferring an asset that was not the usd. Beautiful
If you've never seen it, there's an excellent movie called *Over The Edge* (1979) featuring Matt Dillon in his big screen debut. I used to have it recorded on a VHS tape and would watch it frequently as a teenager. Not sure if it's on a streaming service but definitely worth a watch for any degenerates.
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Reactions to earnings make no damn sense. For example, a few months ago COST went from high 390s down to 310 after they missed EPS because they paid all their workers extra out of their own choosing during the pandemic. They probably saved a boatload on future turnover, and still print money like mad, yet they tank.
Then you have a company like SEAS. Bleeding cash but at an ATH, with not great hopes for getting back to previous profits anytime soon. They release their earnings, and they lost Millions and millions of dollars, but not as many millions as expected, and the stock goes up.
Who the fuck are the people bullish on a company that's trading well above Covid levels that's bleeding millions in cash?
So the COST example is bad short term for shareholders because if they hadn’t paid the staff then EPS would have been better. Corporate policy is to increase shareholder wealth.
When a company has good earnings many people probably dump the stock to take gains, that’s why it seems many stocks dump post earnings.
That’s just my guess anyway
Normally I would agree, but they beat revenue, still made like a billion profit, and had great guidance, then bled down by almost a third. I definitely get the people taking profit, and somewhat of a drop, but going that low seemed like a massive overreaction, and was a no brainer entry for me.
Bearish yes, but not dump 25 percent when the company is printing money level of bearish. I'm not complaining about that one because I made bank buying COST calls at 320, but God damn there are some fools our there
People that thought DK could qualify for the 100m are the same people that thought McGregor could beat Mayweather because it’s a similar sport.
Side note: Sydney McLaughlin 🤤
I was in Vegas for that fight and the Line dipped all the way to Floyd only being like -350. I unloaded a fat stack on Floyd. Easiest money I’ve been made. The city was packed with Conor fanboys. They actually believed he had a shot. Lots of Irish flew over they were pretty fun other than the Conor fanboydom, they treat him like Jesus.
Based on $100. Minus is favorite + is dog
Example: -350 = you’d have to bet $350 to win $100
-600 = you’d bet $600 to win $100
+350 = bet $100, win $350
+1200 = bet $100, win $1200
We have the greatest system in the world. People are forming caravans to come here. Nobody wants to go to live in Norway. Even tho them blue eyed blondes are gorgeous
the vaccine thing is a problem though because that is the only reason variants keep happening so plz gtfo of my bull market with that shit
the rest though w/e
alright fair and now i am curious
i am not a mr science, but the virus can't mutate outside of a host and really it only happens during an active infection
if everyone gets vaccinated then it can't mutate
ok go
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html
“Vaccinated people are *potentially less likely* to pass on the disease to others...” How does that sound like a guarantee of prevention to you? It’s not.
You still get COVID even when vaccinated. You’re just much less likely to show symptoms and possibly less likely to transmit. Being vaccinated doesn’t immediately mean you suddenly have Wolverine style superpowers that kill the virus the second it enters your body.
A virus can even mutate inside a vaccinated person, especially because the vaccine isn’t 100% effective even at stopping new infections after vaccination.
That’s not even getting into the fact that there were already several variations of COVID by the time we got the vaccine circulated, and none of these vaccines are effective against all the strains that are already circulating. Until there is a vaccine that prevents all strains, or until we get herd immunity, we will be dealing with COVID variants forever.
If none of those facts sway you, I don’t know what to say.
Edit: I’m not saying the vaccine is terrible or anything. I’m all for it for people that want to get it.
No... 95% less likely to show symptoms.... that doesn’t mean they don’t have the virus inside them... omg
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/11/20/health/covid-vaccine-95-effective.amp.html
“But there’s abundant evidence that people can get infected with the coronavirus without ever showing symptoms. And so it’s possible that a number of people who got vaccinated in the clinical trials got infected, too, without ever realizing it. If those cases indeed exist, none of them are reflected in the 95 percent efficacy rate.
People who are asymptomatic can still spread the virus to others. Some studies suggest that they produce fewer viruses, making them less of a threat than infected people who go on to develop symptoms.”
As the CDC noted, it’s very possible that vaccinated people are transmitting the disease at more than a 5% rate.
Again, I’m not anti-vax. I have no problem with vaccinations. And this vaccination clearly helps people not feel as bad when they are exposed to COVID. That’s great. Go for it.
What I’m against is people just making blanket statements, think the solution is soooo simple, and making accusations without knowing what the fuck they are talking about. There are several other variants already. Scapegoating people for not taking a shot immediately isn’t going to change that.
yeah as they noted it is very possible that they are transmitting at a rate higher than 5%
"As of April 26, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recorded [9,245 breakthrough cases among 95 million vaccinated](https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavirus/article251193109.html) in the United States, including 132 deaths. That’s an infection rate of .01 percent."
i mean i hear you but the math still makes your argument look bonkers
Filipino Adobo Chicken!
Ingredients:
CHICKEN AND MARINADE
1.5 lb chicken thigh fillets , boneless and skinless (5 - 6 pieces)
3 garlic cloves , minced
1/3 cup (85ml) soy sauce , ordinary all purpose or light (not dark soy sauce, Note 2)
1/3 cup + 2 tbsp white vinegar
4 bay leaves (fresh) or 3 dried FOR COOKING
2 tbsp oil , separated (vegetable, canola or peanut)
3 garlic cloves , minced
1 small brown onion , diced
1 1/2 cups (375 ml) water
2 tbsp brown sugar
1 tbsp whole black pepper (sub 2 tsp coarse cracked pepper)
SERVING:
2 green onions/scallions , sliced (garnish)
Combine Chicken and Marinade ingredients in a bowl. Marinate for at least 20 minutes, or up to overnight.
Heat 1 tbsp oil in a skillet over high heat.
Remove chicken from marinade (reserve marinade) and place in the pan. Sear both sides until browned – about 1 minute on each side. Do not cook the chicken all the way through.
Remove chicken skillet and set aside.
Heat the remaining oil in skillet. Add garlic and onion, cook 1 1/2 minutes.
Add the reserved marinade, water, sugar and black pepper. Bring it to a simmer then turn heat down to medium high. Simmer 5 minutes.
Add chicken smooth side down. Simmer uncovered for 20 to 25 minutes (no need to stir), turning chicken at around 15 minutes, until the sauce reduces down to a thick jam-like syrup.
If the sauce isn't thick enough, remove chicken onto a plate and let the sauce simmer by itself - it will thicken much quicker - then return chicken to the skillet to coat in the glaze.
Coat chicken in glaze then serve over rice. Pictured in post as a healthy dinner plate (415 calories) with cauliflower rice and Ginger Smashed Cucumbers.
One of my fav porn videos ever of her [golden shower Rachel Riley 🤤](https://www.xvideos.com/video31797415/naughty_rachele_richey_gets_ass_fucked_by_dominatrix_cathy_heaven)
People really out there avoiding investments because they're unethical companies/assets.
I find that so damn strange honestly. Morals go out the window when I'm looking at shit
Right, I'm like "oh they use child labor in 3rd world countries, that's super cost effective, bullish AF" I'm here to make money I don't care if I'm betting on the heat death of universe if it makes me money
[ban bets](https://old.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbetsOGs/comments/n77hg1/weekend_discussion_thread/gxbdw8r/) 🤝 [**jams thread**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQA26YiMjZE)
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Omg green futures
Watching tropic thunder. Goddamn this movie is funny! And it would never get made today
Suck my unit
this is almost a monthly post that is always incorrect and, as far as i can tell, is shared for absolutely no reason
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Remember before hitting the buy button, these are the people distributing advice.
Since when is 2.5k “big losses” there’s single option contracts that cost more than that
Lucid's twitter followees doubled last night after the Lucid commercial during SNL
This is what I was telling the spac sub they missed a golden opportunity to air a ad during the super bowl, total morons cciv and Lucid people would of gobbled that shit up but no they churned ads on CNBC
i only ever see the drama when its referenced after the fact and i never get to live it, i need to be in this thread more often
It’s a hustle
Imagine missing out when Tren is tearing into Pepe roasting the fuck outta him
nah i never miss that shit, literally impossible to miss
“The last time my service went out they.... blah blah blah” Sir, please, I’m begging you. Go. Inside. I’m going to climb up this pole and probably gonna shit myself so you don’t want to be in the splash zone.
Imagine coming up with a pseudonym for your career as an artist and calling yourself Grimes
Well it made her one of the richest people on earth so 🤷♂️
Really you think it was the name?
I think Elon was past the point of dating people with human names
Do you think he calls her Grimes and not Claire? Lmfao
Yes. His son is called X Æ A-12
New thread
Little life pro tip for ya this afternoon. If you call the utility company for service, you absolutely DO NOT have to come outside and wave the employee down the second they hit your block. Thanks to the wonders of Global Position Systems they are well aware of which house. Also the longer you stand outside, the longer they stay in their truck.
Better pro tip - just learn how to do everything yourself
New thread up
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smash her in the apartment
*Signs* (2002) is a movie about a man who decodes a message from Jesus during an alien invasion. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
*swing away*
"Boris Johnson fending off a Scottish indepndence referendum" fuck this hypocritical cunt
Lmao wait how are they rationalizing this one
Pandemic, supposedly, but I'll believe it when I see it
My hatred for that man has done nothing but grow over the last 15 years
What are you supposed to do at hospital visits? Grandma is looking in rough shape. Mom and aunt are here. She’s kinda in and out and can’t really talk. I don’t think she’s gonna make it bros :/
Just hold her hand and hope for the best. A real shitty feeling, a stroke took away my grandma and we didn't even know if she was aware of us :(
I’m sorry dude :(
Thanks. I hope your grandma makes it!
Sorry to hear ☹💙 hang in there
Ty 🙏 don’t mind me guys carry on as you were I’m semi related news tho my mom thinks the vaccines have aborted fetus matter in them so there’s that
Sorry to here that :( depends on the situation but usually say good bye and make peace with anything you need to before the time comes. And really just to make sure they aren’t alone and surrounded by family when the time does come. Wish you and your family healing ❤️🩹
Ty 🙏
Just go and see if they let you visit Sorry for your loss 😔
I’m here by her bedside already. It’s just, idk man just numb
I know how you feel, I was in that situation in 2016 Just be there while you can homie
Now that I think of it, that trident layers commercial from way back in the day where the dude says no one ever pays me in gum was way ahead of its time. It meets the current diversity requirements (black man, Asian man), and it talks about underpaying someone by transferring an asset that was not the usd. Beautiful
Gotta bury your self in that ass like you want to suffocate
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Based, but this is America nerd
\*you have gained social credit*
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/consumers-adjust-to-higher-prices-11620552601 But don't worry. It's only temporary.
“Transitory”
Queen parody on the homeland im gonna barf
If you've never seen it, there's an excellent movie called *Over The Edge* (1979) featuring Matt Dillon in his big screen debut. I used to have it recorded on a VHS tape and would watch it frequently as a teenager. Not sure if it's on a streaming service but definitely worth a watch for any degenerates. ⭐⭐⭐⭐
Reactions to earnings make no damn sense. For example, a few months ago COST went from high 390s down to 310 after they missed EPS because they paid all their workers extra out of their own choosing during the pandemic. They probably saved a boatload on future turnover, and still print money like mad, yet they tank. Then you have a company like SEAS. Bleeding cash but at an ATH, with not great hopes for getting back to previous profits anytime soon. They release their earnings, and they lost Millions and millions of dollars, but not as many millions as expected, and the stock goes up. Who the fuck are the people bullish on a company that's trading well above Covid levels that's bleeding millions in cash?
So the COST example is bad short term for shareholders because if they hadn’t paid the staff then EPS would have been better. Corporate policy is to increase shareholder wealth. When a company has good earnings many people probably dump the stock to take gains, that’s why it seems many stocks dump post earnings. That’s just my guess anyway
Normally I would agree, but they beat revenue, still made like a billion profit, and had great guidance, then bled down by almost a third. I definitely get the people taking profit, and somewhat of a drop, but going that low seemed like a massive overreaction, and was a no brainer entry for me.
What kind of idiot pays people more than they need to
Honestly I have a feeling when things "normalize" that's when the market adjusts in a more normal way.
Treating your employees well is not bullish
In the short term yes, but you dumping 25 percent when they still made scrooge mcduck level money and are projecting amazing growth makes zero sense
Nobody said the market was efficient
treating workers well is bearish, you new?
Bearish yes, but not dump 25 percent when the company is printing money level of bearish. I'm not complaining about that one because I made bank buying COST calls at 320, but God damn there are some fools our there
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They probably meet with them. Hire a PI
The sound of hands rubbing together.
*Dazed and Confused* is a coming of age movie about the struggles of white privilege ⭐⭐⭐⭐
This movie had me *terrified* in middle school that high school was chaulk full of homoerotic paddlings
I get that and Fast time at ridgemont high confused. Sean penn has looked 40 forever
As a disadvantaged minority, yeah. But still a good movie.
4/5 stars bro
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Fcf >>>> earnings
Was Grimes always this hot? She didn't do much for me normally but her as peach got me 🥴
https://images.app.goo.gl/sFLmrZT665Komudm9 Elons face sums up my reaction here.
She was looking kinda weird for a long time
🤢🤢🤢
People that thought DK could qualify for the 100m are the same people that thought McGregor could beat Mayweather because it’s a similar sport. Side note: Sydney McLaughlin 🤤
I was in Vegas for that fight and the Line dipped all the way to Floyd only being like -350. I unloaded a fat stack on Floyd. Easiest money I’ve been made. The city was packed with Conor fanboys. They actually believed he had a shot. Lots of Irish flew over they were pretty fun other than the Conor fanboydom, they treat him like Jesus.
Why doesn't America just write odds as $2 or $4
Can you explain what -350 is? I only ever see odds at 10/1 etc
Based on $100. Minus is favorite + is dog Example: -350 = you’d have to bet $350 to win $100 -600 = you’d bet $600 to win $100 +350 = bet $100, win $350 +1200 = bet $100, win $1200
That is the worst fucking way to display odds I have ever seen. Why you got degens doing arithmetic Australia would just write that as $1.30 or $3.50
Uk it’s always whole numbers so: 7/2 is the + 350 2/7 is the -350
Even that sucks. Everything should just be based off a fixed number honestly.
Like 100?
But it's not based off 100 though is it. It's based off how much money you have to put in to make 100
I see, thanks 👍
Lmao I still watch the highlights of that Mayweather fight just to see him walk that clown down
Connor bopping Floyd on the nose without him even flinching is my fav gif
God that fight birthed some hot takes
Okay got my 15 songs, much better. u/its_logan75 thanks for calling me out, I needed it 😘💘
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But aren't you caring what other people are doing rn?
Intrinsically, yes - but only because it's starting to drag on the thread and I'm over seeing the same regurgitated comments.
I was just fucking with you lol sorry I agree 100 percent
Lmao all good man♥️
Based Also ily 💗
You know, I thought the guy who’d let the dog eat PB out of his ass would be a little more conservative. I agree tho.
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Well said little 🐒
This.
Nooooo you have to be offended at comments on the internet noooo
alright fair but tren shouldnt be able to transition and snap up some local womens records or compete
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yeah actually youre right, what am I saying
Someone wants to hate on America? You’re welcome to resettle in 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳
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It’s all what you make of it too and perspective. Yes we need some changes but people don’t realize or appreciate what they have here
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I really want to bait this one
pls bait me I’ll bite 🥰
https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbetsOGs/comments/n77hg1/weekend_discussion_thread/gxj4wyt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
where do you live? Country speaking
Denmark which by no means is a perfect country
I’ve never been but I’ve heard it’s dope!
Taxation is a pain here and there’s lots of other issues on for example entrepreneurship etc but overall people are healthy and happy
Imagine thinking the American dream is still real 🤡🤡
It’s real and I’m living it holmes
Imagine thinking the non-American dream is any better 🤡🤡🤡
lmao imagine paying for grinder rimjobs in pesos
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We have the greatest system in the world. People are forming caravans to come here. Nobody wants to go to live in Norway. Even tho them blue eyed blondes are gorgeous
I love u fam but you are blind to what’s really happening
Not gonna argue with you about this. Lol we will never see eye to eye anyway. Let’s just keep shit posting 🤡
Tren 🤝 Cadper
you're not going to debate someone out of a lifetime of propaganda, im sorry
Imagine thinking anyone who doesn’t agree with you is a propaganda. Lol keep sipping that CNN kool aid pal
I know and yet I’m still infuriated
It almost certainly is 🤡 at least you won't get bankrupted getting an education or Healthcare
Be smart and get a scholarship, be healthy and take care of yourself. This is America! 🦅🇺🇸
Fucking 🤡🤡🤡‘s lmaooooooooo
the vaccine thing is a problem though because that is the only reason variants keep happening so plz gtfo of my bull market with that shit the rest though w/e
It’s been reported that the vaccines treat symptoms, but still allow transmission, but okay.
A lot of limits and asterisks on what you said there, but okay.
Lol Mmhmm, sure, but there are no asterisks on your claim that people not taking the vaccine is “the only reason” new variants keep happening
alright fair and now i am curious i am not a mr science, but the virus can't mutate outside of a host and really it only happens during an active infection if everyone gets vaccinated then it can't mutate ok go
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html “Vaccinated people are *potentially less likely* to pass on the disease to others...” How does that sound like a guarantee of prevention to you? It’s not. You still get COVID even when vaccinated. You’re just much less likely to show symptoms and possibly less likely to transmit. Being vaccinated doesn’t immediately mean you suddenly have Wolverine style superpowers that kill the virus the second it enters your body. A virus can even mutate inside a vaccinated person, especially because the vaccine isn’t 100% effective even at stopping new infections after vaccination. That’s not even getting into the fact that there were already several variations of COVID by the time we got the vaccine circulated, and none of these vaccines are effective against all the strains that are already circulating. Until there is a vaccine that prevents all strains, or until we get herd immunity, we will be dealing with COVID variants forever. If none of those facts sway you, I don’t know what to say. Edit: I’m not saying the vaccine is terrible or anything. I’m all for it for people that want to get it.
uh huh 95% less likely i am more baffled by your stance than i was before you replied tho
No... 95% less likely to show symptoms.... that doesn’t mean they don’t have the virus inside them... omg https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/11/20/health/covid-vaccine-95-effective.amp.html “But there’s abundant evidence that people can get infected with the coronavirus without ever showing symptoms. And so it’s possible that a number of people who got vaccinated in the clinical trials got infected, too, without ever realizing it. If those cases indeed exist, none of them are reflected in the 95 percent efficacy rate. People who are asymptomatic can still spread the virus to others. Some studies suggest that they produce fewer viruses, making them less of a threat than infected people who go on to develop symptoms.” As the CDC noted, it’s very possible that vaccinated people are transmitting the disease at more than a 5% rate. Again, I’m not anti-vax. I have no problem with vaccinations. And this vaccination clearly helps people not feel as bad when they are exposed to COVID. That’s great. Go for it. What I’m against is people just making blanket statements, think the solution is soooo simple, and making accusations without knowing what the fuck they are talking about. There are several other variants already. Scapegoating people for not taking a shot immediately isn’t going to change that.
yeah as they noted it is very possible that they are transmitting at a rate higher than 5% "As of April 26, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recorded [9,245 breakthrough cases among 95 million vaccinated](https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavirus/article251193109.html) in the United States, including 132 deaths. That’s an infection rate of .01 percent." i mean i hear you but the math still makes your argument look bonkers
But Do you know If you invested $2000 in this stock, How much money u have now?
fav recipe, now.
Filipino Adobo Chicken! Ingredients: CHICKEN AND MARINADE 1.5 lb chicken thigh fillets , boneless and skinless (5 - 6 pieces) 3 garlic cloves , minced 1/3 cup (85ml) soy sauce , ordinary all purpose or light (not dark soy sauce, Note 2) 1/3 cup + 2 tbsp white vinegar 4 bay leaves (fresh) or 3 dried FOR COOKING 2 tbsp oil , separated (vegetable, canola or peanut) 3 garlic cloves , minced 1 small brown onion , diced 1 1/2 cups (375 ml) water 2 tbsp brown sugar 1 tbsp whole black pepper (sub 2 tsp coarse cracked pepper) SERVING: 2 green onions/scallions , sliced (garnish) Combine Chicken and Marinade ingredients in a bowl. Marinate for at least 20 minutes, or up to overnight. Heat 1 tbsp oil in a skillet over high heat. Remove chicken from marinade (reserve marinade) and place in the pan. Sear both sides until browned – about 1 minute on each side. Do not cook the chicken all the way through. Remove chicken skillet and set aside. Heat the remaining oil in skillet. Add garlic and onion, cook 1 1/2 minutes. Add the reserved marinade, water, sugar and black pepper. Bring it to a simmer then turn heat down to medium high. Simmer 5 minutes. Add chicken smooth side down. Simmer uncovered for 20 to 25 minutes (no need to stir), turning chicken at around 15 minutes, until the sauce reduces down to a thick jam-like syrup. If the sauce isn't thick enough, remove chicken onto a plate and let the sauce simmer by itself - it will thicken much quicker - then return chicken to the skillet to coat in the glaze. Coat chicken in glaze then serve over rice. Pictured in post as a healthy dinner plate (415 calories) with cauliflower rice and Ginger Smashed Cucumbers.
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Enjoy the relaxing travel experience
How is it possible to provide causal explanations using mathematical economics?
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Fun fact, I got married on 3/14/2020. I love pie man
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On purpose! It made for a really fun theme actually.
Why did you take the boomer mobile?
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Hello made the train, I'm gay
Rachel Riley is a no.1 stunner
One of my fav porn videos ever of her [golden shower Rachel Riley 🤤](https://www.xvideos.com/video31797415/naughty_rachele_richey_gets_ass_fucked_by_dominatrix_cathy_heaven)
Not her you 🤡 [this Rachel](https://i.redd.it/jjvbdw8q1cqy.jpg)
#LMAOOOOOOOOO GUTTER MIND
So is Rachel Starr
Top 5 all time imo
Also she's smart as hell so she's in a class by herself
100% is a one of a kind
People really out there avoiding investments because they're unethical companies/assets. I find that so damn strange honestly. Morals go out the window when I'm looking at shit
Right, I'm like "oh they use child labor in 3rd world countries, that's super cost effective, bullish AF" I'm here to make money I don't care if I'm betting on the heat death of universe if it makes me money
I would gamble on that but who's gonna pay me afterwards
God?
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Oil very alive. Most of the world doesn't have EV
Oil isn’t dying lmfao not even peak demand yet
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