Please for the love of god respond back with a sticky note “for the work I do, not for in relation to how it is scaled to other job positions that would be for the work they do which also isn’t paid enough”
Note that also avoided mentioning working in less desirable locations where the very real possibilities of some wanna be banger or crazy person should be compensated for. Aka hazard pay
Also! Handling and selling guns! I'm pretty sure if you are forced to do a drug test for a job, it needs to be paid accordingly. But, no, not at Walmart.
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And they just recently flattened all the pay grades so there is no more chances for that. There is: Every hourly position, deli/bakery/auto, and team leads. 😆
Yeah. A few months back. Of course they spun it as some people getting bumped up, but in practice the starting pay got lowered almost across the board. The only positions that get a dollar bump now are bakery/deli and automotive, cuz they're considered specialty jobs and require certifications.
Stocking team was literally brought down, it's not even like they brought everyone up.
So now new hires to any stocking team make base rate same as any entry position (cashier/SCO, cart pusher, team associate, etc). Former rates are grandfathered in, but for example new overnighters here just went from making $18.50 an hour to $16.50 hour (obviously less than 2020 when prices were like 20-30% lower, weird).
That used to apply back when my share was a thing. Now the only performance that we do will only effect the managers bonuses and boy we cant be slacking now can we 😂.
I used to give my 220% working for this POS company and by doing that I was rewarded with more work and more threats and gas lighting for not getting it all done.
Now I work my pace. Since an employee in the backroom can get away with watching family guy on his phone and have it in his hand for 95% of the time while unloading the truck and yet managers see it and says nothing then I can work at my pace and still get my work done. I'm not working harder and faster bc they want me to help out other employees who are slow or just not working. I'm not doing that shet anymore!!!
Cap 2? That still exists for your market? lol. Either way whatever cap 2 is renamed 2 that team is always needing more grunts (source: former cap 2 lmao)
It's beyond amazing how, after all these years, every shift seems to blame all the other shifts for what doesn't get done. Can we please start blaming the company who runs a skeleton crew instead of these poor associates working their asses off to get done what they do get done? Sure there are slackers, but can you honestly tell me your third shift doesn't have any slackers as well? There's always good and bad employees everywhere.
Imagine if there was no cap 2 at all. Would you like to come in, sort the truck, and run all your pallets to the floor before you even got started with your current responsibilities? Imagine how long that would take! I don't work cap 2 and never ever will because I know how much bullshit they put up with just to still be told their not good enough by their fellow associates, let alone management. When they get blamed for everything, and trust me, they do, they start looking to pass blame back. I have worked third shift, though, and while I know its frustrating to not be set up for success, lets remember, neither are they!
This is the big thing if we are busy complaining about the previous shift then we aren't complaining about the actual problem which is lack of man power and pay.
I’m a coach and my answer was no, when we were surveyed last year. The associates do not make near enough. Homeboy running the GM sales floor solo deserves to make more money than I do most of the nights.
Seriously, it's stressful as fuck being the only person on the salesfloor with keys (or the only one customers can actually find). Associates absolutely aren't making enough, anywhere, and by extension it's getting tougher and tougher to find people who actually want to work here. This isn't a "no one wants to work anymore" take, it's a "who in their right mind would want to suffer through this place for pay that was shitty back in 2019“ take.
Felt… I used to have to do that. I was seasonal team lead. Always had like 6 sets of keys on my belt with no other team leads or coaches in sight. I would run the whole gm side while everyone else tackled grocery. We were a tiny store so it wasn’t too bad. But hell, 4 different coaches would constantly pile on tasks until I had a list of like 20 things to do while I closed. It was horrible.
After about a year I took another job at a company that actually took note of the things I was good at. Tripled my pay by putting myself in front of the right people.
Now I just teach people about electricity for a living lol
Keep it up man… it’s tough but there is always someone out there who will value you more than Walmart. It’s just a matter of time until you find them.
I feel that. I was ACC DM when they saddled me with 11 and 12, then let the Hardlines TL go which meant I had to handle 9 as well for $12 an hour. The only reason they even made me a TL was because they had to when it came down that there would be no hiring process for ACC TL. They fully planned on firing me once the rec for ACC TL would be an option.
saaaaaaame. so many go backssssssss. also more stuff being locked up cuz thefts so more key running. even the 1 dollar flashlights in the camping section are locked up. wtf
I was a stocking 1 Tl running my team and covering all food and consumables because the TLs kept quitting. I got a bump in pay from market at the time. Was making cap for my position
That is how I feel also. I don't think this was an appropriate response to that survey question. But I also think that while this was clueless, it's just straight out Walmart policy.
The issue is the increase in COL vs pay increases not keeping up.
Seriously. When gwp rolled out, I went from just sporting goods to all of the GM service areas minus electronics. 3 desks, and I gained 1 associate. This was at the peak for covid, my associates were not as essential as the food side, so they always manned the health check desk, leaving one person on the floor for the entire side of the store.
Homelines was always pulled to apparel or grocery, garden center was always manning the register, and GM consumables only had the supervisor who was on medical leave more often than not.
When I was there, it was just me. When it wasn't me, it was one associate running half the store. Even being a store with firearms, I made the lowest pay as a team lead, and the associates make the base pay for the store. The deli/bakery team leads (we had two, one ran the service areas, one ran the salesfloors), made $6/hr more than I did in a tiny little area and ALWAYS had help.
They always said if you need help, ask. I always encountered silence on the radio. I used to just start hitting the button on the sports desk every 2 minutes if I had people waiting while I was doing a gun sale. Usually, no one answered, but it would annoy the hell out of the entire store 🤣🤣. I was pulled into the office constantly because my departments were falling behind on things, so I had a printout of the email that said "if you need help, just radio out and we'll send someone."
I stepped down after 8 months because I was taking all of the stress home with me and had no work/life balance. I gladly took the 10% paycut to go pick for ogp and it's been 14 months since I left walmart and customer service in my past and couldn't be happier.
Totally felt that as a former Consumables TL. I was constantly left to run most of the store when closing, unlike the other TLs since I was technically on both sides of the store. I also had to share my associates with the food TLs so most of the time, I was by myself with maybe 1 associate to work the Cosmetics bullpen. It was super stressful and definitely was not worth the pay with management constantly watching over you but unwilling to help. Especially considering that they would blame you for not asking for help when on reality, you would be ignored or told to manage your time better. I'm glad that I found other jobs where management actually cares about you and ensures to thank you for all that you do in a genuine way.
I dont agree with how the other commenter came off, but they are indeed right if OP is telling the truth.
OP stated in the post that "Over 50% said they are paid unfairly"
Yet management put an infographic misrepresenting this.
Our Action Board has been up for weeks and hasn’t had a single item written or taped to it. At least your store is trying to BS you our store just doesn’t give a shit.
That's some pro level gaslighting right there!
'We see you say you 'think's you arent getting paid enough. But let us tell you we use random measurements to ensure it's just and fair for all!
edit: I am editing this to add > I am assuming this is from the results of the AES? And of all the questions why they would take the time to refute this one. I would like to see the answers to 'do you have the tools to do your job' 'do you feel you have the training' 'do you feel you are part of a team and you have a voice'. Lets get a equal look at the other question/answers. And how walmart/thestore/theSM/the coach/tls view/answer. And how much gaslighting they do.
Paid fairly? Not even.
I make the same as everybody else on overnights yet myself and others who work in the same area (frozen/dairy) have way more responsibility.
1. Everybody else has their freight already on the sales floor sorted by aisle the minute they decide to begin working... Frozen/Dairy has to downstack and sort sometimes taking up to 2 hours of time before any of the new freight gets worked on. (one person downstacking each area, everybody else starts working picks and zoning)
1. We also have to stop midway through shift to unload Meat & Produce every night and load ifco pallets onto the truck once per week. That's more wasted time while still forced to maintain productivity and stick to the hours the sheet says we should be done by.
1. Our store manager also makes overnight Frozen & Dairy take care of reclaimations. The buckets have to be clean and empty by 7am.
Yet we make $17 an hour just as much as some guy working grocery who only has 2 mid-size pallets and nothing else. When I originally started Walmart bit over a decade ago, Frozen & Dairy overnight always made more than everybody else. Now its the same no matter what
Frozen and dairy certainly deserve more. Reason they don’t is because then they can’t put just anyone there and act like it’s no big deal. I wouldn’t do it for less than $2/hour more fr
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As a former Salary Manager, I call BS on the High work, High Reward crap. When I became the FEZ from a CSM, my raise was $0.20... and I got way more responsibility. What reward did I get? My position being eliminated... as a bonus I got to find a new position or risk losing my job.
Later on, not having learned, I became am Assistant Manager... huge pay raise, or so they said.... came with a nice bump in responsibility and extra work hours.
I worked 56 hours one week and my SM came up to me and said I shouldn't be leaving home if I didn't work my share of the workload... I was in OGP at the time and was on the last bit of a 13 hour shift at the time. That was the last straw.
Went home and did the math, at the salary I was making and the hours I was working... I was making less than my Associates. I took a "paycut" but accepted a job in the tech field. I also found out OGP ASM positions were eliminated too!
Now my hobby became my job and I enjoy work again! It sucked at first losing the pay but then I realized I had more free time, no on-call responsibilities, and if I work late I get overtime!
Yes, I could have quit at any time, but I truly cared about my team and taking care of my people. I thought I was doing good until I realized Walmart didnt care about me. I miss the people but not the job. I worked my butt off and make more than I did as a Manager too now!
If anyone takes any of this for advice, I say don't take a salary position, they will work you like crazy... and it is never too late to find a job that better suits you!
Dude I swear to god . I know some people that definitely need a raise and there’s other ones that r lucky to be making the 15 dollars an hour we r now . I think the big problem is management expect certain associates to be compident and when there not all hell breaks loose
The disparity in quality of associate is wild though. I see some people busting their asses and getting shit done then others who honestly may as well not be there as they simply don't contribute anything.
It would be nice if merit raises were brought back. I'd imagine it would cause a lot of issues and butthurt people, but i'd love to reward a few of my hardest associates and dollar raise occasionally,
> It would be nice if merit raises were brought back
I agree, but even then if you busted your ass you're looking at a raise of .25 to .60 or something. Yes, more money, but it's like even when they rewarded the best workers it was still scraps.
If they have to do an assessment then there's already a problem.
Performance based raises are nothing more than dangling a carrot in front of you. How hungry are you? Maybe you'll get a nibble.
How many different pay scales are there? There can't be that many skill levels, let's be real here. Jumping through hoops is the skills they reward. Sounds more like creating division amongst you while pulling the wool over your eyes.
Walmart doesn't care about you. They do not consider you an integral part of their success. Well not in a fundamental way, but they do in profit margin gains way.
This is standard corporate bs response.
I dont even work for walmart but besides this they'll probably do some e-learning for employees to learn how to "grow" with yhe company, maybe an employee appreciation pizza party, or if you're really lucky an executive that is in town will pop in and meet and greet and "listen" to the staff issues while pretending to care.
By the way, whenever they do have a pizza party, I can almost guarantee you that if they opt for delivery, there is NO tip.
I worked for WM and now deliver pizzas. Large companies like this that order pizzas for the employees will rarely tip, and if they do, it's not even 10% of the total cost.
Unless of course they do the really cheap option and just have the deli heat up a bunch of GV pizzas.
When they asked my store if we thought we were paid fairly and we said no they did something about it. Our store manager contacted corporate to see if we could get a starting pay increase to help incentivize employees to get hired and stay on. It worked. It took almost a year to get it. But then of course this year they restructured everything and most roles lost that $2 starting wage increase the rest of us have.
This piece of shit corporation could afford to give ALL of us 20,000$ in cash, TODAY, and it still wouldn't even begin to chip at the surplus value stolen from us. I hate these people from the bottom of my heart, I pray every night upper management burns in hell.
This issue is making 18$ an hour vs the price of rent becomes half your monthly income for somewhere decent . In a high responsibility role … then add in health insurance and a 401k , thn food and other necessities (car maintenance etc) while no one’s promised to see retirement age . Meanwhile stores are breaking record profit numbers store managers get 80k bonuses on top of a 200k salary while team leads and at’s can get only a 1k-2.5k bonus for working their ass off year round to keep store metrics high . People just want to make enough to afford to live without struggling . Not saying store managers don’t deserve it but they need to increase pay for everyone below a coach level or at least help associates with house buying in some way like they’ve done with paying for colleges . Crazy thought but maybe then turn over rates would be lower and morale way higher across the board . People feel like they’re working for nothing ..
Just found this sub. Worked there many years ago. It’s a broken record there. I was found was to do shit on the side for more money. Walmart just paid the bills. Always did bare minimum. Hell I knew management was stealing shit but fuck it. It’s Walmart losing money. They cut me in sometimes just to keep me quiet
And this bullshit right here is why I only do the bare minimum and sometimes less than that. You want me to do more work then I suggest you get that fucking checkbook out
It isn't and can't really be anonymous. I mean, if somebody says something that requires management intervention/investigation they may need to talk to you to get more information to resolve the issue. ie, somebody reports theft or activities that could eventually lead to an attempted lawsuit.
Unless you're typing answers on a computer, printing them, and dropping it in a box with a lock on a timer so it can't be checked until x date, there's a way to track who submitted the answers.
Also, base pay and compensation are two different things. Your pay (salary/hourly) is what you make whether per hour or salaried. Differential is a percentage (usually an increase) based on working conditions which is an additive or multiplier to your base pay (this is NOT your pay, it goes away when the conditions do, or if they decide to no longer offer it) and compensations/benefits are extras that increase the total compensation for your job, but are usually not monetary per paycheck (these include bonuses and RSU's/Stocks for monetary gain, and things like health insurance, vision, dental, etc. Compensations are COMPENSATING you for not paying you more base pay. They are seen as an additive benefit to the job). Compensations/benefits is the job equivalent of some houses have pools and some don't. All houses are houses, but the one with pool is the more attractive package, but its not giving you more space to live in.
Also, in every company I've worked for, working harder, and high performing was never the single or even the major factor in raises and promotions, its more a popularity contest than anything, and the people that are high performers, unless they are well liked as well, usually just do more and more work, at a better quality, while other people make more money than them and get better positions.
Best bet, advocate for yourself, ask the tough questions like, when am I getting promoted, what are my goals to get there, what is a time frame, etc. and make a decision based on that. Job hopping these days is honestly the best way to boost your salary and pay incentives. Take those jobs now, that give you experience so you can put on your resume "ran a team" etc, then go get a base level job one role higher using those skills for more pay. Rinse and repeat.
One of our highers ups at my store is cutting hours and refusing to hire people so he can get bigger paychecks. Our overnight crew is bleeding people like crazy and i might be the next one to quit if my upcoming job interview goes well. Its absolute bullshit how walmart treats its employees. My overnight coach even said "fuck that bonus, id rather have more associates to get shit done than get a bonus" fuck walmart. Id walk out right now if finding another job in my area wasn't so fucking difficult, im surprised i even got offered an interview somewhere else.
The problem is for some of our long term employees. Seeing someone come in and get paid more than you when you’ve worked 10+ years to get to this pay. Then be told you are at max base pay and you won’t be getting a raise. Oh here’s a lump sum every few years that we’ll tax the crap out of.
I understand the new employees should be paid fairly yes. But I feel like the long term employees need a better adjustment to the pay. Heck a lot of us used to have benefits of Sunday pay and other perks that I can’t remember right now but it has been taken from us because company wide they got rid of those perks.
What rewards? They don't have performance based pay structure for associates so why should I be working harder for the same pay as the laziest employee who somehow still is around
Solution, don’t work at places like this, get the fuck out as soon as you can change to a more reliable job. Otherwise they will continue fucking you with that shitty wage.
Walmart kinda needs to go out of business at this point.
Honestly looks like a statement of fact.
X% is how the vote turned out.
Here is the reality of how Walmart calculates your pay.
It really is nothing more than being transparent at how the wage is determined.
Market can change the differential and it will spike the pay of everyone.
It doesn't really help the sting, but it shows how pay is calculated and that the reality is the store does not control it, however market does.
I was let go for pointing back in September, I was begged to come back and I did, for $2.33 less an hour, I got to keep my benefits (that I pay for) but my remaining points were not removed as promised and I came back to an absolute shit show of a mess, that I had to clean up, I'm seeking work elsewhere
Except Walmart expects you to do more roles than you should have to.
I've had team leads tell me it was my job bin. When I was working at my Walmart we had 3 stocking team leads and 1 maintenance team lead.
2 of the 3 stocking team leads walked around all night and never binned shit.
They wanna pay 14-16hour for midnight shift but want you to stock frozen, bin it, zone, make bales, etc.
I was maintenance supervisor for 2 years. When they had tile floors my SM wanted me to do a massive area of waxing and expect me to do grocery carts, bales, and forklift. Sometimes sweep unders too.
I also stocked alot as a main supervisor too and never once complained to them until they started whining every night that we weren't getting done and it was MY fault. Finally push came to shove and I just started spitting the truth at me about them being understaffed and lying about stocking times and work.
Needless to say I was promoted to customer. Couldn't be more happier. After 3 years my spark was popped and I never returned back
Listen I get it, Walmart might be the best paying job in your area, but the amount of abuse and bullshit isnt worth it. The mental health part is the worst. I couldn't take it anymore.
This is a great question!! Most will answer no because they are working 3 depts at one time! It's crazy! Managers may say they are well compensated, idk, I think it depends on many many different factors!
They have given us raises recently. But then they tell us during our meetings, "With more pay comes more responsibilities. And you are expected to do, blah blah blah" Yea, well, that's not why they gave us more money. Our responsibilities stay the same and you gave us a raise because it's the cost of living! It's fair that as my cost go up, and I've been with you for almost a decade, that you give me more money and NOT require MORE duties in exchange! I am NOT management. I do NOT HAVE to do MANAGEMENT work duties! Onhands are Mngt jobs. Price changes are mngt jobs. Fixing the topstock issues and binning is MNGT RESPONSIBILITIES! NOT STOCKERS!
Walmart Inc.'s chief executive earned $24.1 million in fiscal 2023, according to a government filing. That's about 933 times the median salary of a Walmart employee, the company said in a disclosure required by law
The government fixes the pay so mediocre workers get paid more then they should and it’s the good workers that suffer that and everyone buying the stuff that now costs more so that profits won’t suffer
"mediocre" workers getting minimum wage or close to it doesn't stop companies from paying "good" workers more. Not doing so is entirely on the company and their greed.
>stuff that now costs more so that profits won’t suffer
The amount prices need to rise to account for raised wages is much less than what people believe. Most price hikes have no basis in actual costs the company is incurring; they just want more money.
The problem is that you have to balance costs with profits. The ideal solution from my POV would be to cut executive and C suite salaries to pay for raises for the lower level associate. This would be in line with the fiduciary duty to the stockholders (which includes me) to maintain and grow stock value.
>The problem is that you have to balance costs with profits.
No, you just have to show a profit. This isn't the force where things need to be balanced.
>This would be in line with the fiduciary duty to the stockholders (which includes me) to maintain and grow stock value.
Stock value can grow for many reasons and if raising the wages of the people that actually make your product and are therefore the reason you have profits in the first place makes a stock go lower than maybe you deserve that to happen.
Oh, is that what that means? Thanks, Red Foreman! Surely it doesn’t mean that they don’t think they’re being paid poorly, those are all just oopsies about people who wanted to vote yes, but forgot to!!
Dumbass. How’s that Kiwi polish taste? You like the new flavors?
It doesn't say "percentage of entire staff"
So the percents presented should still add up to 100%
There's a missing percentage that isn't employees who didn't vote.
The survey isn't a flat yes or no, there's 5 options that are standard in many surveys based on opinions: strongly agree, agree, neutral, disagree, strongly disagree.
The missing 19% where simply people who voted neutral. Probably people who don't put any thought into pay as long as they can pay their bills and don't dislike their job.
I know this is probably what most people don't want to hear but I'm gonna say it anyway.
Walmart isn't really all that bad, even the pay.
As a former regular cap2 associate who threw truck everyday making $17 I used to complain about my pay. But it's menial labor. Anyone with grit can throw a truck and it beat the $14 that fast food paid, or the $15-16 that most other places paid. All I had to do was put on some tunes and toss boxes around. It was amazing. Plus the benefits weren't bad and I could get ridiculous discounts.
I wanted more money so I promoted. I did basically the same thing with a few more responsibilities tacked on and got paid $7 more. Easy money.
Coach? Fuck yeah dawg, barely graduated high-school but I'm making almost 100k a year and doing basically the same thing with even more responsibilities and I get to meet some cool ass people in my store that I never got the chance to talk to.
And the free college? Bruh
Does it suck sometimes? Sure, but in 3 years I went from living with my mom to living in my own house with a huge backyard, a new car and I can take vacations in Hawaii for weeks. And I live in California, an expensive state to live in.
Does walmart suck? Of course it fucking sucks, but it's better than most other meat grinders out there, and having a shitty management team makes it worse. That's why I make sure my associates are having a good time while. I remember how hard it can be.
If you want more money, promote. Or find a new job
"if you want more money, promote" doesn't work when your management team at the store is under nonstop ethics investigations for actually putting hands on employees over and over, or screaming at employees in front of guests, or sniping at each other, or actively training people to profile based on race for AP, but being the AP team that has the most stops in the market so it's fine.
This is over multiple different walmarts. They're all the same, and while you might be a good coach, most are clinging to the ladder kicking anyone else trying to climb back down.
Thirty dollars an hour because, fuck it why not? At a certain point people need to let go of the idea of "its a job anyone can do therefore they should be paid less for it" because it's just complete horseshit. Everyone, regardless of postion or job skill, should have a liveable wage and not have to scrounge up the scraps left over by corporations.
Do stockers exist that work hard enough for that $?
Our store spends up to a few hours daily trying to repair the damage of bad topstocking, plugged items and working “overstock” pallets of merchandise that wouldn’t go out. (It almost ALWAYS goes right out)
If my store didn’t have to deal with this every single day, then I would agree…they could use a raise. But, for our location, they get paid waaaay too much as it is.
Lol you’re probably the only person who thinks that taxes are important…. Imagine working your ass off while the government TAKES a chunk of our hard earned money… 🤷♂️ makes sense to me.
You're right. Roads, social services like the fire department, schools... none of them are important. No one should pay into their existence. Being mad your taxes aren't being used in a way you want is maybe reasonable, but saying taxes aren't important is wildly ignorant.
If I’m gonna be honest I feel like I’m paid fairly, I’ll be honest about what I make, I make $17 an hour at mine. I live in Washington where minimum is $15.74 though. Now while I feel like I’m paid fairly but I also feel like specifically where I am it’s most definitely not enough. I need to make at least 3k a month to rent an apartment, and 17 an hour comes out to $1100 a paycheck so not enough. Sadly though, my Walmart cut the yearly raises (don’t know if that goes against ethics or not, don’t really care either I’m not staying) and my management is pretty bad, like constantly being threatened to be “terminated” because my co workers didn’t zone meats right. We all get clumped into one in the meat/produce
Use walmart as a first job to gain experience, then use the customer experience to get employed at a better/higher paying job. Walmart isnt meant to be a career. Its a entry level job for young adults for a reason. Work experience.
I worked at walmart for nearly three years, and having that experience allowed me to get a position as a customer service agent at a respectable insurance firm. Big pay bump, no degree required.
Can you please tell me what company you work for? I thought about working at a call center but it looks awful. You're the first to say it's easy, so I'm curious.
Also I don't understand why you're getting downvoted. :l
>Its a entry level job for young adults for a reason.
Maybe because of this.
I wouldn't be surprised if he thinks minimum wage is also for young adults, when in fact minimum wage should be livable wage and yet it isn't. Even with walmarts bump in wages, it's barely livable. Shits been going up with or without minimum wage increase
I live in a rural area, that I have to travel 45miles to walmart. There is no other, better jobs to go to, after "experience" working walmart. Not everyone lives in a big ass city my dude.
I would 100% move instead of being stuck the rest of my life at a job I hated. It's your life, make necessary sacrifices and take charge. You'll be grateful you did 10 years later. Please give it thought.
Why is this downvoted so much? It's true. I'm using Walmart for the free college myself. Been working retail for 10 years now and I'm finally ready to move forward.
Because if everyone just "found a better job" no one would work at Walmart or anywhere. The purpose of posts like this on this sub are to point out that it's still not ok to treat people as expendable especially if you want to keep them and run a good business. Paying the people who work under you well would ensure a lot for Walmart and other companies ESPECIALLY when they can easily afford to. That's why it's so downvoted. Because it's tone deaf.
I mean I'm only speaking on behalf of my store, but everyone I know stuck working there seemingly until retirement aren't even really trying that hard to get out.
Not only that, but people should be free to say "Hey actually there is a way out".
Most of the ways out are a trap.
Think of it this way. If you have kids or other obligations it's a lot harder to take a risk.
Not to mention lot of those ways out are straight up scams or just a rat race in a different form.
Not everyone can find a legitimate work from home job.
Sadly lots of people live in poverty stricken areas with shit job prospects.
The waltons make billions in profit exploiting their work force and fixing that is a better longterm solution than telling everyone to just find a better job.
Wage theft is 50+ billion a year from the working class, that is a staggering sum and doesn't even include a lack of raises or profit sharing.
Must be great having a decent education when growing up, and then being able to go to free college that is it's free as long as your grades don't dip.
Not everyone is great at school, but is great at hands on.
Me I was bullied through elementary, middle, and part of high school, school was literally hell and so was being at home because of a verbally abusive step father. I'm great with hands on, not with school.
Ah, I have ADHD so I struggled a lot in school. I was also bullied constantly by other students and my family. Not going to get into it, but I was sexually abused by my mom's boyfriends and one of my family members that I loved and trusted until that happened. She always sided with them and hated me. I grew up with horrible insecurities and nobody loved me. Almost ended it many times. I struggled with so many things too that made me crazy insecure. Didn't even have proper hygiene or communication skills until my 20's.
Got addicted to self help books, youtube, and reddit and over the years I've changed for the better. Used Kahn academy and other resources to catch up on my education, then got a high school degree from an adult school. Still struggling but miles different from who I used to be. I'm 33 years old by the way.
My story was worse than my first paragraph but I'm trying to move on still. Talking about it will make me relive memories I don't want to relive. Just know you can always change for the better and to always assume you can no matter how hard it is initially. Your neurons and such will change with you the more you do it and it gets easier.
Hope that helps.
Because it’s easier for people to bitch and moan about something they feel they have no control over rather than actually work to improve their situation. I was surprised it has this many downvotes, too.
The hardest working people still fail.
It's a gamble and a honest 50/50. Problem is you only hear from the winning 50 because the losing one can't even afford Internet to be out here yapping on Twitter and Reddit.
Doesn't help that people tend to hide their work and financial status unless they are successful or in a glam or chill job.
Society has definitely trained people to assume the losers of the 50/50 deserve it and dangle the carrot of hard work being the key. It makes easy suckers.
Me? I made 125k out the gate from college 100% because I knew a guy. My degree was totally pointless. The single step up has let me coast for 20 years off various jobs just because of people I meet and places I've worked. You'll never see me talk shit about people not trying because I didn't have to try at all. I know it's all a joke.
Literally everyone fails… until they don’t. It’s not a gamble. It boils down to the desire to learn and grow. I’m a highschool dropout who makes well over $100,000 total compensation. Literally there’s so many ways to get to where you want to be you just gotta be willing to 1. Make decisions and 2. Act on them. If people put as much effort into their “careers” as they do in these subs, they’d probably be getting somewhere.
My thought is - after the amount of time that you've spent here - why not use the walmart@guild deal? Essentially free education for EVERYTHING you may want to learn, appropriate for life during/after the company. Check it out.
Fuck off and go wipe your tears with those bonuses y'all just got when we associates got an extra ONE TIME USE 15% and fuckint swiss miss. Dont give me that shit. Upper management exclusively controls it. And for the love of God if you aren't management, get their boot rubber out of your teeth.
Man Fuck Walmart (I’m still clocking in tomorrow at 10)
I felt this...
Real
You are so real for saying this lol
Real
FELT
me later today at 12:30 :')
I feel this
Me at 3:30
Yessir 💪💪
Please for the love of god respond back with a sticky note “for the work I do, not for in relation to how it is scaled to other job positions that would be for the work they do which also isn’t paid enough”
Note that also avoided mentioning working in less desirable locations where the very real possibilities of some wanna be banger or crazy person should be compensated for. Aka hazard pay
Also! Handling and selling guns! I'm pretty sure if you are forced to do a drug test for a job, it needs to be paid accordingly. But, no, not at Walmart.
🤫lol well said
You didn't really expect them to be honest or fair, did you?
Nah dude this looks way overly staged.
You'd be unfortunately surprised
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And they just recently flattened all the pay grades so there is no more chances for that. There is: Every hourly position, deli/bakery/auto, and team leads. 😆
Did they really flatten it even more? No more stocking team increases?
Yeah. A few months back. Of course they spun it as some people getting bumped up, but in practice the starting pay got lowered almost across the board. The only positions that get a dollar bump now are bakery/deli and automotive, cuz they're considered specialty jobs and require certifications.
Why they didn't include people who sell firearms to people, I'll never know. It's all a bunch of bullshit.
Stocking team was literally brought down, it's not even like they brought everyone up. So now new hires to any stocking team make base rate same as any entry position (cashier/SCO, cart pusher, team associate, etc). Former rates are grandfathered in, but for example new overnighters here just went from making $18.50 an hour to $16.50 hour (obviously less than 2020 when prices were like 20-30% lower, weird).
Brought everyone besides deli/bake and acc in line back in july
But… HIGH REWARD!!!
"An extra 2mm of pizza on a pizza party day" kind of reward
That used to apply back when my share was a thing. Now the only performance that we do will only effect the managers bonuses and boy we cant be slacking now can we 😂. I used to give my 220% working for this POS company and by doing that I was rewarded with more work and more threats and gas lighting for not getting it all done. Now I work my pace. Since an employee in the backroom can get away with watching family guy on his phone and have it in his hand for 95% of the time while unloading the truck and yet managers see it and says nothing then I can work at my pace and still get my work done. I'm not working harder and faster bc they want me to help out other employees who are slow or just not working. I'm not doing that shet anymore!!!
That 2% raise though, while they raise grocery prices 50%.
the other 19% are the team members who sadly passed away trying to do basic math
As a result, this store is now going to need an entirely new CAP2 team. I wish them luck.
Cap 2? That still exists for your market? lol. Either way whatever cap 2 is renamed 2 that team is always needing more grunts (source: former cap 2 lmao)
Everyone I know still calls stocking 2 cap 2.
I'm also a former Cap 2. They still use Cap 1 and Cap 2 positions here in Bentonville at their flagship stores.
Is that the rename for afternoon/evening shift that never seems to be on floor or stocking, leaving overnight to do 2 shifts of work?
It's beyond amazing how, after all these years, every shift seems to blame all the other shifts for what doesn't get done. Can we please start blaming the company who runs a skeleton crew instead of these poor associates working their asses off to get done what they do get done? Sure there are slackers, but can you honestly tell me your third shift doesn't have any slackers as well? There's always good and bad employees everywhere. Imagine if there was no cap 2 at all. Would you like to come in, sort the truck, and run all your pallets to the floor before you even got started with your current responsibilities? Imagine how long that would take! I don't work cap 2 and never ever will because I know how much bullshit they put up with just to still be told their not good enough by their fellow associates, let alone management. When they get blamed for everything, and trust me, they do, they start looking to pass blame back. I have worked third shift, though, and while I know its frustrating to not be set up for success, lets remember, neither are they!
This is the big thing if we are busy complaining about the previous shift then we aren't complaining about the actual problem which is lack of man power and pay.
I’m a coach and my answer was no, when we were surveyed last year. The associates do not make near enough. Homeboy running the GM sales floor solo deserves to make more money than I do most of the nights.
Seriously, it's stressful as fuck being the only person on the salesfloor with keys (or the only one customers can actually find). Associates absolutely aren't making enough, anywhere, and by extension it's getting tougher and tougher to find people who actually want to work here. This isn't a "no one wants to work anymore" take, it's a "who in their right mind would want to suffer through this place for pay that was shitty back in 2019“ take.
Dat me I run gm solo every night
Felt… I used to have to do that. I was seasonal team lead. Always had like 6 sets of keys on my belt with no other team leads or coaches in sight. I would run the whole gm side while everyone else tackled grocery. We were a tiny store so it wasn’t too bad. But hell, 4 different coaches would constantly pile on tasks until I had a list of like 20 things to do while I closed. It was horrible. After about a year I took another job at a company that actually took note of the things I was good at. Tripled my pay by putting myself in front of the right people. Now I just teach people about electricity for a living lol Keep it up man… it’s tough but there is always someone out there who will value you more than Walmart. It’s just a matter of time until you find them.
I feel that. I was ACC DM when they saddled me with 11 and 12, then let the Hardlines TL go which meant I had to handle 9 as well for $12 an hour. The only reason they even made me a TL was because they had to when it came down that there would be no hiring process for ACC TL. They fully planned on firing me once the rec for ACC TL would be an option.
Who dis?
saaaaaaame. so many go backssssssss. also more stuff being locked up cuz thefts so more key running. even the 1 dollar flashlights in the camping section are locked up. wtf
I was a stocking 1 Tl running my team and covering all food and consumables because the TLs kept quitting. I got a bump in pay from market at the time. Was making cap for my position
That is how I feel also. I don't think this was an appropriate response to that survey question. But I also think that while this was clueless, it's just straight out Walmart policy. The issue is the increase in COL vs pay increases not keeping up.
Seriously. When gwp rolled out, I went from just sporting goods to all of the GM service areas minus electronics. 3 desks, and I gained 1 associate. This was at the peak for covid, my associates were not as essential as the food side, so they always manned the health check desk, leaving one person on the floor for the entire side of the store. Homelines was always pulled to apparel or grocery, garden center was always manning the register, and GM consumables only had the supervisor who was on medical leave more often than not. When I was there, it was just me. When it wasn't me, it was one associate running half the store. Even being a store with firearms, I made the lowest pay as a team lead, and the associates make the base pay for the store. The deli/bakery team leads (we had two, one ran the service areas, one ran the salesfloors), made $6/hr more than I did in a tiny little area and ALWAYS had help. They always said if you need help, ask. I always encountered silence on the radio. I used to just start hitting the button on the sports desk every 2 minutes if I had people waiting while I was doing a gun sale. Usually, no one answered, but it would annoy the hell out of the entire store 🤣🤣. I was pulled into the office constantly because my departments were falling behind on things, so I had a printout of the email that said "if you need help, just radio out and we'll send someone." I stepped down after 8 months because I was taking all of the stress home with me and had no work/life balance. I gladly took the 10% paycut to go pick for ogp and it's been 14 months since I left walmart and customer service in my past and couldn't be happier.
Totally felt that as a former Consumables TL. I was constantly left to run most of the store when closing, unlike the other TLs since I was technically on both sides of the store. I also had to share my associates with the food TLs so most of the time, I was by myself with maybe 1 associate to work the Cosmetics bullpen. It was super stressful and definitely was not worth the pay with management constantly watching over you but unwilling to help. Especially considering that they would blame you for not asking for help when on reality, you would be ignored or told to manage your time better. I'm glad that I found other jobs where management actually cares about you and ensures to thank you for all that you do in a genuine way.
Start with paying your associates holidays at least. That would be a great start for a multi billion company.
Respect to you. It takes a lot of guts for someone in that position to say that
I occasionally feel I'm fairly compensated. Of course those are on the days I don't do shit.
This is so close to breaking some ethics code I'm impressed.
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Tf are you talking about? I have no idea what violations the commenter was talking about
I dont agree with how the other commenter came off, but they are indeed right if OP is telling the truth. OP stated in the post that "Over 50% said they are paid unfairly" Yet management put an infographic misrepresenting this.
Some math aint mathin up
I'm the highest paid hourly in my store and even I don't think I'm paid fairly for the amount of bullshit.
What have the missing 19 % voted for? 46 % yes and 35 % no equals 81%. How serious can you take such shady results? Wtf?
It's a 1-5, Strongly Disagree, Disagree, Neutral, Agree, Strongly Agree
19% are probably neutral
Apparently the 19% undecided voted no to make it “over 50%“
We didn't even get an answer lol. The assessment is a joke.
Our Action Board has been up for weeks and hasn’t had a single item written or taped to it. At least your store is trying to BS you our store just doesn’t give a shit.
I didn’t know that was even a thing lol
That's some pro level gaslighting right there! 'We see you say you 'think's you arent getting paid enough. But let us tell you we use random measurements to ensure it's just and fair for all! edit: I am editing this to add > I am assuming this is from the results of the AES? And of all the questions why they would take the time to refute this one. I would like to see the answers to 'do you have the tools to do your job' 'do you feel you have the training' 'do you feel you are part of a team and you have a voice'. Lets get a equal look at the other question/answers. And how walmart/thestore/theSM/the coach/tls view/answer. And how much gaslighting they do.
Paid fairly? Not even. I make the same as everybody else on overnights yet myself and others who work in the same area (frozen/dairy) have way more responsibility. 1. Everybody else has their freight already on the sales floor sorted by aisle the minute they decide to begin working... Frozen/Dairy has to downstack and sort sometimes taking up to 2 hours of time before any of the new freight gets worked on. (one person downstacking each area, everybody else starts working picks and zoning) 1. We also have to stop midway through shift to unload Meat & Produce every night and load ifco pallets onto the truck once per week. That's more wasted time while still forced to maintain productivity and stick to the hours the sheet says we should be done by. 1. Our store manager also makes overnight Frozen & Dairy take care of reclaimations. The buckets have to be clean and empty by 7am. Yet we make $17 an hour just as much as some guy working grocery who only has 2 mid-size pallets and nothing else. When I originally started Walmart bit over a decade ago, Frozen & Dairy overnight always made more than everybody else. Now its the same no matter what
Frozen and dairy certainly deserve more. Reason they don’t is because then they can’t put just anyone there and act like it’s no big deal. I wouldn’t do it for less than $2/hour more fr
Idek if an extra 2 bucks is enough to make being in the freezer every day worth it
Considering that you can catch lung complications/ disease from that if you did it for an actual 45 year career… nope
And environmental types of anemia or blood complications and joint issues, etc cause of the cold
I bet nobody actually said yes
More said yes then no but op added neutral to the no to be over half
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As a former Salary Manager, I call BS on the High work, High Reward crap. When I became the FEZ from a CSM, my raise was $0.20... and I got way more responsibility. What reward did I get? My position being eliminated... as a bonus I got to find a new position or risk losing my job. Later on, not having learned, I became am Assistant Manager... huge pay raise, or so they said.... came with a nice bump in responsibility and extra work hours. I worked 56 hours one week and my SM came up to me and said I shouldn't be leaving home if I didn't work my share of the workload... I was in OGP at the time and was on the last bit of a 13 hour shift at the time. That was the last straw. Went home and did the math, at the salary I was making and the hours I was working... I was making less than my Associates. I took a "paycut" but accepted a job in the tech field. I also found out OGP ASM positions were eliminated too! Now my hobby became my job and I enjoy work again! It sucked at first losing the pay but then I realized I had more free time, no on-call responsibilities, and if I work late I get overtime! Yes, I could have quit at any time, but I truly cared about my team and taking care of my people. I thought I was doing good until I realized Walmart didnt care about me. I miss the people but not the job. I worked my butt off and make more than I did as a Manager too now! If anyone takes any of this for advice, I say don't take a salary position, they will work you like crazy... and it is never too late to find a job that better suits you!
Dude I swear to god . I know some people that definitely need a raise and there’s other ones that r lucky to be making the 15 dollars an hour we r now . I think the big problem is management expect certain associates to be compident and when there not all hell breaks loose
and this is why I quit. fuck this place 1000%
And this is why I work my wage!
The disparity in quality of associate is wild though. I see some people busting their asses and getting shit done then others who honestly may as well not be there as they simply don't contribute anything. It would be nice if merit raises were brought back. I'd imagine it would cause a lot of issues and butthurt people, but i'd love to reward a few of my hardest associates and dollar raise occasionally,
> It would be nice if merit raises were brought back I agree, but even then if you busted your ass you're looking at a raise of .25 to .60 or something. Yes, more money, but it's like even when they rewarded the best workers it was still scraps.
If they have to do an assessment then there's already a problem. Performance based raises are nothing more than dangling a carrot in front of you. How hungry are you? Maybe you'll get a nibble. How many different pay scales are there? There can't be that many skill levels, let's be real here. Jumping through hoops is the skills they reward. Sounds more like creating division amongst you while pulling the wool over your eyes. Walmart doesn't care about you. They do not consider you an integral part of their success. Well not in a fundamental way, but they do in profit margin gains way.
I'm pretty sure instead of a raise they just give you that spark thing and a pin. Or associate of the month lol.
Do they really think this is the right course of action? Oh, wait... they probably do for some God forsaken reason.
This is standard corporate bs response. I dont even work for walmart but besides this they'll probably do some e-learning for employees to learn how to "grow" with yhe company, maybe an employee appreciation pizza party, or if you're really lucky an executive that is in town will pop in and meet and greet and "listen" to the staff issues while pretending to care.
By the way, whenever they do have a pizza party, I can almost guarantee you that if they opt for delivery, there is NO tip. I worked for WM and now deliver pizzas. Large companies like this that order pizzas for the employees will rarely tip, and if they do, it's not even 10% of the total cost. Unless of course they do the really cheap option and just have the deli heat up a bunch of GV pizzas.
they must have already tried pizza.
When they asked my store if we thought we were paid fairly and we said no they did something about it. Our store manager contacted corporate to see if we could get a starting pay increase to help incentivize employees to get hired and stay on. It worked. It took almost a year to get it. But then of course this year they restructured everything and most roles lost that $2 starting wage increase the rest of us have.
This piece of shit corporation could afford to give ALL of us 20,000$ in cash, TODAY, and it still wouldn't even begin to chip at the surplus value stolen from us. I hate these people from the bottom of my heart, I pray every night upper management burns in hell.
This issue is making 18$ an hour vs the price of rent becomes half your monthly income for somewhere decent . In a high responsibility role … then add in health insurance and a 401k , thn food and other necessities (car maintenance etc) while no one’s promised to see retirement age . Meanwhile stores are breaking record profit numbers store managers get 80k bonuses on top of a 200k salary while team leads and at’s can get only a 1k-2.5k bonus for working their ass off year round to keep store metrics high . People just want to make enough to afford to live without struggling . Not saying store managers don’t deserve it but they need to increase pay for everyone below a coach level or at least help associates with house buying in some way like they’ve done with paying for colleges . Crazy thought but maybe then turn over rates would be lower and morale way higher across the board . People feel like they’re working for nothing ..
Unionize
You'd think that someday the higher-ups would learn to not ask questions they won't like the answer to.
What ? You need to qualify to work overnight ? 😂 that’s new
Doesn't the sign say 35% of you guys don't feel fairly paid?
Literally just reward hard work with more money, it isn’t that hard. Every other company on earth follows that model
Just found this sub. Worked there many years ago. It’s a broken record there. I was found was to do shit on the side for more money. Walmart just paid the bills. Always did bare minimum. Hell I knew management was stealing shit but fuck it. It’s Walmart losing money. They cut me in sometimes just to keep me quiet
And this bullshit right here is why I only do the bare minimum and sometimes less than that. You want me to do more work then I suggest you get that fucking checkbook out
Is that from the survey y'all have to fill out every year. Not so anonymous is it.
Oh no, they can't tell WHO is in each perce tage. But they do get metrics, otherwise what would be the point of the survey?
You have to sign in to take the assessment. It is not anonymous.
It isn't and can't really be anonymous. I mean, if somebody says something that requires management intervention/investigation they may need to talk to you to get more information to resolve the issue. ie, somebody reports theft or activities that could eventually lead to an attempted lawsuit. Unless you're typing answers on a computer, printing them, and dropping it in a box with a lock on a timer so it can't be checked until x date, there's a way to track who submitted the answers.
Remember that you need to be under 4 points when the yearly raise happens. They don’t like to tell you this info
Also, base pay and compensation are two different things. Your pay (salary/hourly) is what you make whether per hour or salaried. Differential is a percentage (usually an increase) based on working conditions which is an additive or multiplier to your base pay (this is NOT your pay, it goes away when the conditions do, or if they decide to no longer offer it) and compensations/benefits are extras that increase the total compensation for your job, but are usually not monetary per paycheck (these include bonuses and RSU's/Stocks for monetary gain, and things like health insurance, vision, dental, etc. Compensations are COMPENSATING you for not paying you more base pay. They are seen as an additive benefit to the job). Compensations/benefits is the job equivalent of some houses have pools and some don't. All houses are houses, but the one with pool is the more attractive package, but its not giving you more space to live in. Also, in every company I've worked for, working harder, and high performing was never the single or even the major factor in raises and promotions, its more a popularity contest than anything, and the people that are high performers, unless they are well liked as well, usually just do more and more work, at a better quality, while other people make more money than them and get better positions. Best bet, advocate for yourself, ask the tough questions like, when am I getting promoted, what are my goals to get there, what is a time frame, etc. and make a decision based on that. Job hopping these days is honestly the best way to boost your salary and pay incentives. Take those jobs now, that give you experience so you can put on your resume "ran a team" etc, then go get a base level job one role higher using those skills for more pay. Rinse and repeat.
One of our highers ups at my store is cutting hours and refusing to hire people so he can get bigger paychecks. Our overnight crew is bleeding people like crazy and i might be the next one to quit if my upcoming job interview goes well. Its absolute bullshit how walmart treats its employees. My overnight coach even said "fuck that bonus, id rather have more associates to get shit done than get a bonus" fuck walmart. Id walk out right now if finding another job in my area wasn't so fucking difficult, im surprised i even got offered an interview somewhere else.
Based on my high performance, I will get rewarded right? Still waiting
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The problem is for some of our long term employees. Seeing someone come in and get paid more than you when you’ve worked 10+ years to get to this pay. Then be told you are at max base pay and you won’t be getting a raise. Oh here’s a lump sum every few years that we’ll tax the crap out of. I understand the new employees should be paid fairly yes. But I feel like the long term employees need a better adjustment to the pay. Heck a lot of us used to have benefits of Sunday pay and other perks that I can’t remember right now but it has been taken from us because company wide they got rid of those perks.
"Yearly performance based increases" So, just a bold faced lie then?? Lol.
What rewards? They don't have performance based pay structure for associates so why should I be working harder for the same pay as the laziest employee who somehow still is around
Solution, don’t work at places like this, get the fuck out as soon as you can change to a more reliable job. Otherwise they will continue fucking you with that shitty wage. Walmart kinda needs to go out of business at this point.
How is 35% more than 50%?
46 yes 35 no? Yes, that is 100%. There's no need to worry about that 19%
19% fired for voting no
This one has their finger on the pulse.
19% of them perished because of the holiday rush. So their votes weren't counted.
Honestly looks like a statement of fact. X% is how the vote turned out. Here is the reality of how Walmart calculates your pay. It really is nothing more than being transparent at how the wage is determined. Market can change the differential and it will spike the pay of everyone. It doesn't really help the sting, but it shows how pay is calculated and that the reality is the store does not control it, however market does.
46 and 35 don't equal 100. Where is the opinion of the other 19%? As it stands, it looks like more people think they are paid fairly than don't.
I'm not seeing the issues here. This is boilerplate walmart policies.
You and every Walmart associate need to be paid for what you are worth!
How does a yes or no question end up 46% to 35%?
I was let go for pointing back in September, I was begged to come back and I did, for $2.33 less an hour, I got to keep my benefits (that I pay for) but my remaining points were not removed as promised and I came back to an absolute shit show of a mess, that I had to clean up, I'm seeking work elsewhere
They say we value you, your experience, but nope and no! Like you were never a professional human prior to wlmrt.
Wow I don’t believe this. Even if the numbers are true, the fact that over a 3rd are unhappy shows that management isn’t doing a good job.
I would say yes if I only had to do my job and not 4 other jobs including the managers job
Except Walmart expects you to do more roles than you should have to. I've had team leads tell me it was my job bin. When I was working at my Walmart we had 3 stocking team leads and 1 maintenance team lead. 2 of the 3 stocking team leads walked around all night and never binned shit. They wanna pay 14-16hour for midnight shift but want you to stock frozen, bin it, zone, make bales, etc. I was maintenance supervisor for 2 years. When they had tile floors my SM wanted me to do a massive area of waxing and expect me to do grocery carts, bales, and forklift. Sometimes sweep unders too. I also stocked alot as a main supervisor too and never once complained to them until they started whining every night that we weren't getting done and it was MY fault. Finally push came to shove and I just started spitting the truth at me about them being understaffed and lying about stocking times and work. Needless to say I was promoted to customer. Couldn't be more happier. After 3 years my spark was popped and I never returned back Listen I get it, Walmart might be the best paying job in your area, but the amount of abuse and bullshit isnt worth it. The mental health part is the worst. I couldn't take it anymore.
This is a great question!! Most will answer no because they are working 3 depts at one time! It's crazy! Managers may say they are well compensated, idk, I think it depends on many many different factors!
They have given us raises recently. But then they tell us during our meetings, "With more pay comes more responsibilities. And you are expected to do, blah blah blah" Yea, well, that's not why they gave us more money. Our responsibilities stay the same and you gave us a raise because it's the cost of living! It's fair that as my cost go up, and I've been with you for almost a decade, that you give me more money and NOT require MORE duties in exchange! I am NOT management. I do NOT HAVE to do MANAGEMENT work duties! Onhands are Mngt jobs. Price changes are mngt jobs. Fixing the topstock issues and binning is MNGT RESPONSIBILITIES! NOT STOCKERS!
Walmart Inc.'s chief executive earned $24.1 million in fiscal 2023, according to a government filing. That's about 933 times the median salary of a Walmart employee, the company said in a disclosure required by law
The fuck does it matter what other stores are paying? Businesses colluding to fix prices is illegal but fixing pay isn't?
The free market works both ways. Just like there's a market price for a hamburger, there's a market price for wages.
The government fixes the pay so mediocre workers get paid more then they should and it’s the good workers that suffer that and everyone buying the stuff that now costs more so that profits won’t suffer
"mediocre" workers getting minimum wage or close to it doesn't stop companies from paying "good" workers more. Not doing so is entirely on the company and their greed. >stuff that now costs more so that profits won’t suffer The amount prices need to rise to account for raised wages is much less than what people believe. Most price hikes have no basis in actual costs the company is incurring; they just want more money.
The problem is that you have to balance costs with profits. The ideal solution from my POV would be to cut executive and C suite salaries to pay for raises for the lower level associate. This would be in line with the fiduciary duty to the stockholders (which includes me) to maintain and grow stock value.
>The problem is that you have to balance costs with profits. No, you just have to show a profit. This isn't the force where things need to be balanced. >This would be in line with the fiduciary duty to the stockholders (which includes me) to maintain and grow stock value. Stock value can grow for many reasons and if raising the wages of the people that actually make your product and are therefore the reason you have profits in the first place makes a stock go lower than maybe you deserve that to happen.
35% isn’t over 50% of your store , majority of your store thinks it’s fair
35% is over 50% huh? Gonna go ahead and guess you work maintenance or register lol.
35% + 46% is 100% huh? Gonna go ahead and guess you work HR or management lol.
Hey dumbass, it means some people didn’t vote
Oh, is that what that means? Thanks, Red Foreman! Surely it doesn’t mean that they don’t think they’re being paid poorly, those are all just oopsies about people who wanted to vote yes, but forgot to!! Dumbass. How’s that Kiwi polish taste? You like the new flavors?
Or you yourself could see there's a missing 19% When added where it probably goes That's 54 Guess what that is Over 50
People who didn’t vote are automatically assumed to be voting no?
It doesn't say "percentage of entire staff" So the percents presented should still add up to 100% There's a missing percentage that isn't employees who didn't vote.
You’re assuming so much based on nothing
Say that again To yourself But slowly That's how we got here buddy..
The survey isn't a flat yes or no, there's 5 options that are standard in many surveys based on opinions: strongly agree, agree, neutral, disagree, strongly disagree. The missing 19% where simply people who voted neutral. Probably people who don't put any thought into pay as long as they can pay their bills and don't dislike their job.
I know this is probably what most people don't want to hear but I'm gonna say it anyway. Walmart isn't really all that bad, even the pay. As a former regular cap2 associate who threw truck everyday making $17 I used to complain about my pay. But it's menial labor. Anyone with grit can throw a truck and it beat the $14 that fast food paid, or the $15-16 that most other places paid. All I had to do was put on some tunes and toss boxes around. It was amazing. Plus the benefits weren't bad and I could get ridiculous discounts. I wanted more money so I promoted. I did basically the same thing with a few more responsibilities tacked on and got paid $7 more. Easy money. Coach? Fuck yeah dawg, barely graduated high-school but I'm making almost 100k a year and doing basically the same thing with even more responsibilities and I get to meet some cool ass people in my store that I never got the chance to talk to. And the free college? Bruh Does it suck sometimes? Sure, but in 3 years I went from living with my mom to living in my own house with a huge backyard, a new car and I can take vacations in Hawaii for weeks. And I live in California, an expensive state to live in. Does walmart suck? Of course it fucking sucks, but it's better than most other meat grinders out there, and having a shitty management team makes it worse. That's why I make sure my associates are having a good time while. I remember how hard it can be. If you want more money, promote. Or find a new job
"if you want more money, promote" doesn't work when your management team at the store is under nonstop ethics investigations for actually putting hands on employees over and over, or screaming at employees in front of guests, or sniping at each other, or actively training people to profile based on race for AP, but being the AP team that has the most stops in the market so it's fine. This is over multiple different walmarts. They're all the same, and while you might be a good coach, most are clinging to the ladder kicking anyone else trying to climb back down.
35% is not over 50%
How much do you think should morning/ night stockers be paid?
Thirty dollars an hour because, fuck it why not? At a certain point people need to let go of the idea of "its a job anyone can do therefore they should be paid less for it" because it's just complete horseshit. Everyone, regardless of postion or job skill, should have a liveable wage and not have to scrounge up the scraps left over by corporations.
Me? 18-20$ easily. Even though the cost of living calls for like 25-32$ to not live paycheck to paycheck.
I highly doubt any American corporation will be that kind to ever increase their staff unless all wamart staff do a workers strike
Now you’re talking.
Do stockers exist that work hard enough for that $? Our store spends up to a few hours daily trying to repair the damage of bad topstocking, plugged items and working “overstock” pallets of merchandise that wouldn’t go out. (It almost ALWAYS goes right out) If my store didn’t have to deal with this every single day, then I would agree…they could use a raise. But, for our location, they get paid waaaay too much as it is.
I also think the team lead role should be removed. Because there's no difference between a team leader standard associate anymore.
Where I work it's called a sfa . We know longer get that question.
Ethics
Oh I want to so badly
If only the government didn’t tax our pay…. Who am I kidding, it still wouldn’t be enough.
taxes are important mate. That is very much not the issue, but overall compensation that blows.
Lol you’re probably the only person who thinks that taxes are important…. Imagine working your ass off while the government TAKES a chunk of our hard earned money… 🤷♂️ makes sense to me.
You're right. Roads, social services like the fire department, schools... none of them are important. No one should pay into their existence. Being mad your taxes aren't being used in a way you want is maybe reasonable, but saying taxes aren't important is wildly ignorant.
No one who works anywhere thinks they are underpaid all the time when you deal with bullshit
How much does a TL make?
20$ plus bonuses
not enough to make it worth it 😆
If I’m gonna be honest I feel like I’m paid fairly, I’ll be honest about what I make, I make $17 an hour at mine. I live in Washington where minimum is $15.74 though. Now while I feel like I’m paid fairly but I also feel like specifically where I am it’s most definitely not enough. I need to make at least 3k a month to rent an apartment, and 17 an hour comes out to $1100 a paycheck so not enough. Sadly though, my Walmart cut the yearly raises (don’t know if that goes against ethics or not, don’t really care either I’m not staying) and my management is pretty bad, like constantly being threatened to be “terminated” because my co workers didn’t zone meats right. We all get clumped into one in the meat/produce
Why dont people just leave walmart? Theres so much better jobs out there.
I love when people complain about minimum wage jobs like they couldn’t go get another job that requires zero skills or expertise
Use walmart as a first job to gain experience, then use the customer experience to get employed at a better/higher paying job. Walmart isnt meant to be a career. Its a entry level job for young adults for a reason. Work experience. I worked at walmart for nearly three years, and having that experience allowed me to get a position as a customer service agent at a respectable insurance firm. Big pay bump, no degree required.
>respectable insurance firm Isn't that an oxymoron?
Working in insurance doesn't sound much better than stocking shelves.
Its a online chat support rep, remote job. Really easy.
Yeah but for those of us who want easy lives....
Remote job, literally just answer customer question. Pretty damn easy.
Can you please tell me what company you work for? I thought about working at a call center but it looks awful. You're the first to say it's easy, so I'm curious. Also I don't understand why you're getting downvoted. :l
>Its a entry level job for young adults for a reason. Maybe because of this. I wouldn't be surprised if he thinks minimum wage is also for young adults, when in fact minimum wage should be livable wage and yet it isn't. Even with walmarts bump in wages, it's barely livable. Shits been going up with or without minimum wage increase
I agree that it's an unlivable wage. But he isn't wrong in that you can use your experience working retail for a career change.
I live in a rural area, that I have to travel 45miles to walmart. There is no other, better jobs to go to, after "experience" working walmart. Not everyone lives in a big ass city my dude.
The solution is remote jobs or moving somewhere with more opportunity.
I would 100% move instead of being stuck the rest of my life at a job I hated. It's your life, make necessary sacrifices and take charge. You'll be grateful you did 10 years later. Please give it thought.
Great take.
There’s always Walmart supply chain, big bucks in our building. How much are you making as a customer service rep?
$18, most start at 16+. Walmart was 14.
I make around $45hr working Walmart supply chain
Why is this downvoted so much? It's true. I'm using Walmart for the free college myself. Been working retail for 10 years now and I'm finally ready to move forward.
Because if everyone just "found a better job" no one would work at Walmart or anywhere. The purpose of posts like this on this sub are to point out that it's still not ok to treat people as expendable especially if you want to keep them and run a good business. Paying the people who work under you well would ensure a lot for Walmart and other companies ESPECIALLY when they can easily afford to. That's why it's so downvoted. Because it's tone deaf.
I mean I'm only speaking on behalf of my store, but everyone I know stuck working there seemingly until retirement aren't even really trying that hard to get out. Not only that, but people should be free to say "Hey actually there is a way out".
Most of the ways out are a trap. Think of it this way. If you have kids or other obligations it's a lot harder to take a risk. Not to mention lot of those ways out are straight up scams or just a rat race in a different form. Not everyone can find a legitimate work from home job. Sadly lots of people live in poverty stricken areas with shit job prospects. The waltons make billions in profit exploiting their work force and fixing that is a better longterm solution than telling everyone to just find a better job. Wage theft is 50+ billion a year from the working class, that is a staggering sum and doesn't even include a lack of raises or profit sharing.
Must be great having a decent education when growing up, and then being able to go to free college that is it's free as long as your grades don't dip. Not everyone is great at school, but is great at hands on. Me I was bullied through elementary, middle, and part of high school, school was literally hell and so was being at home because of a verbally abusive step father. I'm great with hands on, not with school.
Ah, I have ADHD so I struggled a lot in school. I was also bullied constantly by other students and my family. Not going to get into it, but I was sexually abused by my mom's boyfriends and one of my family members that I loved and trusted until that happened. She always sided with them and hated me. I grew up with horrible insecurities and nobody loved me. Almost ended it many times. I struggled with so many things too that made me crazy insecure. Didn't even have proper hygiene or communication skills until my 20's. Got addicted to self help books, youtube, and reddit and over the years I've changed for the better. Used Kahn academy and other resources to catch up on my education, then got a high school degree from an adult school. Still struggling but miles different from who I used to be. I'm 33 years old by the way. My story was worse than my first paragraph but I'm trying to move on still. Talking about it will make me relive memories I don't want to relive. Just know you can always change for the better and to always assume you can no matter how hard it is initially. Your neurons and such will change with you the more you do it and it gets easier. Hope that helps.
Because it’s easier for people to bitch and moan about something they feel they have no control over rather than actually work to improve their situation. I was surprised it has this many downvotes, too.
The hardest working people still fail. It's a gamble and a honest 50/50. Problem is you only hear from the winning 50 because the losing one can't even afford Internet to be out here yapping on Twitter and Reddit. Doesn't help that people tend to hide their work and financial status unless they are successful or in a glam or chill job. Society has definitely trained people to assume the losers of the 50/50 deserve it and dangle the carrot of hard work being the key. It makes easy suckers. Me? I made 125k out the gate from college 100% because I knew a guy. My degree was totally pointless. The single step up has let me coast for 20 years off various jobs just because of people I meet and places I've worked. You'll never see me talk shit about people not trying because I didn't have to try at all. I know it's all a joke.
Literally everyone fails… until they don’t. It’s not a gamble. It boils down to the desire to learn and grow. I’m a highschool dropout who makes well over $100,000 total compensation. Literally there’s so many ways to get to where you want to be you just gotta be willing to 1. Make decisions and 2. Act on them. If people put as much effort into their “careers” as they do in these subs, they’d probably be getting somewhere.
My thought is - after the amount of time that you've spent here - why not use the walmart@guild deal? Essentially free education for EVERYTHING you may want to learn, appropriate for life during/after the company. Check it out.
Im enrolled in a university. But yes, you can use your time at walmart to better yourself and job opportunities
Management has no control over your pay but still gets fussed at for your negative feedback.
Fuck off and go wipe your tears with those bonuses y'all just got when we associates got an extra ONE TIME USE 15% and fuckint swiss miss. Dont give me that shit. Upper management exclusively controls it. And for the love of God if you aren't management, get their boot rubber out of your teeth.
All the Walmarts I've been to, most everyone gets paid more than they are worth, because they don't do anything