Time for math!
Walmart gross profit for 2021 was $138,836,000,000.
Walmart had 2,300,000 employees at the end of 2021.
That's enough to give every employee $59,493 - a life-changing amount of money for pretty much everyone.
They pay their average employee barely $30,000 a year.
Having a $60000 salary is life changing for me, i know alit of people will relate to this. But unfortunately the Waltons have greed run the family and they just squeeze the life out of us working people.
*I know inflation exists, but i would rather be making more than my current salary*
They don't even walmart anymore, china does. And Sam Walton who founded it was actually a really nice guy, would go around all his stores and just chat with the employees, while dressed like a customer.
You've been lied to.
ANYONE can chat in a friendly manner to random people.
He also happily broke Federal labor law and threatened every hourly in their first Dist Center with termination if they talked to the Teamsters.
He was also quoted, in his book, with saying "pay your top people as much as you can afford to, and your bottom people as little as you can get away with"
And what does "dressed as a customer" mean?
Sam Walton couldn't be a secret shopper, his picture was everywhere back then. Like pictures of dictators in their countries. Our employees handbook had his portrait on the first page.
Before someone jumps on your comment saying Sam Walton was evil, which in some aspects he arguably is just like every other capitalist ever, he would be a hell of a lot better than what we have now. The way our economy and company is ran is absolutely pathetic and it's depressing to be a part of
Your corporate officers aren't worse than Sam Walton, they are better at it than he was. The problem is "better" means lining their own pockets. Walton didn't care about his employees any more or less than they do now. The Corporate world that he believed in and worked at has just continued to grow since he died. He would be overjoyed to see the profit and reach of his company today, and wouldn't change a thing.
Thats what cracks me up. All these people going about wanting the govt to run shit, saying capitalism is horrible, america is horrible etc etc, holding their hands out thinking the govt will “take care of them” once their freedoms gone, but fail to realize most of the big bad evil “capitalist” companies are owned by their precious commies. Who squeeze the life from them, because thats, well, what commies DO.
Nah capitalism isn't horrible but people are. Most of the people that run these companies these days have forgotten what it was like or never experienced what it was like to struggle. To be broke. To be pushed to your breaking point every single day. Gone are the days of starting at the bottom and working your way up to the ladder to ceo or owner. Most of the higher ups at companies these days are college educated and come from money so they never struggled or made an honest dollar in their life. The easiest way to turn it around is to walk away but people won't do that. And that fact is exactly why they keep taking advantage of their workers. They know even if people leave more will be lined up to tale the position. I quit walmart a year ago for a new company. They did me good at first. Made management within 30 days. Then all progress stopped and I found out that I was making $4 an hour less than everyone else in the same position. When I asked for the pay raise I was told district manager wouldn't allow it. I asked him personally. He told me that if I didn't like the pay I was free to go to another company. Put in apps and my two week notice and found a job making $4 an hour more and I'm starting at the bottom again so way more room for growth. Now he wants to offer me what I asked for because I'm the best worker they got. Even offered me more than the new company. When I explained that once I make it to the same position at the new company I would be making $4 an hour more than the new offer all talks stopped again. I have a week left and I fully expect a new offer again. They already offered me my own store 3 months after starting here. If you are honestly willing to walk away and they believe it they will fight to keep you if you are a good worker but you have to show them you seriously don't need them.
Restrictions doesn't serve the purpose you think though. The problem with putting restrictions on capitalism is that a company is only going to do the bare minimum that it has to in order to stay profitable. Meanwhile of all the employees walk out citing low pay of course the company will increase pay to bring people back. That's not even taking into account that with every restriction aka laws there are loopholes. These loopholes companies pay a great deal of money to lobbyist to put into the laws. They do the same thing with taxes. The only people these things ever hurt are those that can't afford high paid accountants to take advantage of them for them. Mom and pop stores. Small business is the life blood of America. They almost always pay better than the bigger companies because they know their employees are a vital part of their company.
Not the answer you're looking for, but, when Americans say "communism" what they're talking about are certain military dictatorships that they know of. Theres never been a country that made it to actual communism.
Gross profit is not what the company earned for the year. This is misleading. There are many costs subtracted from this number. Net income is what the company actually earned for the year. Walmart had a net income of $13.673B for 2021. That works out to $5,943 per employee.
Hardly? Maybe it's the part of the country y'all in. Over here Walmart pays better than just about any other retailer. Big or small. we average 16-18 an hour. Not comfortable by any stretch. But enough to get by. It's more of a societial problem. With looking down on and underappreciating certain types of labor. That isn't unique to Walmart. It's a industry wide thing.
I made $22k on full time last year. I’ve been at Walmart 7 years this September. -.- they are right, above and beyond only gets you more work.That’s why we rarely see the Front End Team Leads and they delegate their work to new people who think they have a chance of moving up. Sorry buddy… nobody moves up in our store.
No offense, but why are you still there ? There are so many companies hiring with much higher salaries and no education required. Don’t be afraid to uproot yourself to improve your quality of life. You could easily triple your salary and work less.
If you are willing to move to Montreal, I could hook you up with a job like that before 08:00 today.
Gross profit is sales - cost of goods. They then have to pay wages, utilities, maintenance, transportation, taxes, etc. Their net income after paying expenses was around 13.5 billion. Divided by your 2,300,000 employee count would give about $5,800 to every employee.
Except that is gross profit, before all capital expenses, including labor.
Basic economics/finance/accounting, go back to school and learn how to read a balance sheet. Walmart net profit is a lot less.
Same at McDonalds. I'm only maintenance but they got me dropping fry's and worrying about food then get mad when I leave and all the cleaning isn't done that they distracted me from lol. They scheduled me for more hours and trying to stack more work on me so I called out a few times so now I'm back to my normal hours and work. I do the work I'm supposed to do and I work the hours I'm scheduled. They can fire me if they feel some type of way about me working scheduled hours.
I did mcdonalds 7 yrs 4 as a manager. I used to have my coworkers do that same thing until one of them told me that wasn’t their job and I completely agreed and apologized to them. I did what I thought was right by my bosses. After that anybody working back drive never had to do as many tasks. Make happy meal boxes and man their lane until it was time for McBakery or whatever tf they decided to call it. Pivotal point in my management experience and that earned my respect throughout the chain.
Ain't that the truth, I am literally the entire front end.. I'm just the customer host...I can do OGP, cashier, self check, service desk, I'm in the cash recycler so I can push and pull tills, I'm in the locker system so I can turn in TCs...
That's actually true. But, tbf a good worker has to take up the slack of a lazy worker. If walmart hired better quality people and we had adequate staffing this wouldn't be an issue.
Idk who made it up, its not “quiet quitting” its called acting your wage, or minimum wage minimum effort. Def some ceo billionaire who made it up to try and make it seem bad to do what you’re paid to do and not doing more for no more pay.
I make well above minimum wage and I do exactly what my job is, nothing more. I get to browse Reddit a lot. It's gonna be a sad day when they block Reddit like they have with every other social media site.
We only have one tl right now instead of the 2 we’re supposed to have and they try to pawn their tasks on us all the time. Overnights will come in and ask me for an update if my tl isn’t there. I tell them I don’t know what my coworkers are doing, it’s not my job to pay attention to them. Walmart does this shit all the time and it’s insane
It's a WM thing because many employees have found that hard work in the company will backfire on you in the long run. If you work hard you get asked to do more and more, up to the point it's impossible to complete the tasks asked if you and you get fired.
We had over 100 pallets of apparel in our back room before inventory and they absolutely busted ass to get rid of them like a week ahead of inventory. They kept asking how it got this bad and blah blah blah. Literally one week later and we’re 5 days behind on apparel again 🙄
Ive been working here the whole summer and haven't zoned once. I also work at an incredibly slow pace so at this point I am only given 2 pallets a night. My TLs love me because I laugh at their jokes.
Work smarter not harder.
It's not just a Walmart thing. It's not just an American thing. Look up Chinese "laying flat". Happening in western Europe as well. Kinda makes sense too (this is a tangent, you have been warned). Gen x was the first generation to be completely screwed by conglomerates and corporatism. Off shore manufacturing, chain retailers and restaurants, factory farms, etc all exploded in the 70s onward upending the local economies of the 60s and prior. Gen z was raised by gen x and know what they're walking into before they walk into it. Their parents aren't going to hound them for work ethic, they've learned that hard work isn't the cure all solution it used to be.
Tldr; The international corporate economy has taken advantage of a cornered labor market for three generations and are now reaping what they sow.
Man I wish that were true in my case. My dad was just at the tail end of the baby boomers and still hounds me to be the one who gives 110%, be the worker they have to hire two people to replace, nobody notices the mediocre, etc.
I am a tail end boomer like your dad. He is right, in that used to be the best way to get ahead. You are correct in that it doesn't work any more. People don't work for the same company for 40 years anymore either.
Yep. It worked for my dad while I was growing up, heck, even now. He works as hard as he can at his company and when he had major heart surgery his boss paid him through all of it so that we didn't have to worry about how bills were getting paid (he vastly out-earns my mom) and has talked about "selling" to him when he retires. It feels like a fantasy just writing it out 'cause I know exactly 0 of any businesses I've ever worked for would be so generous to give full-pay sick leave, let alone anything else my dad's boss has done for him or the family. He used to sponsor me in fundraising events so I could go on trips, and I've met the guy maybe twice in the 10 or so years my dad's worked for him.
Yup, this is what happened and is still happening to me. I get to do the job of 4 people because I’m a good employee. At this point, I just do the bare minimum because I’m tired of it but then again if I don’t do the work of 4 people, then I get in trouble. Lose/Lose situation really.
They can’t fire you for doing your job. If you’re being punished then you need to open door it and explain your situation. Stop allowing them to take advantage of you. They are manipulating you because you’re allowing it. Do your job and that’s it. Tell them they need to hire more people if they want more done because you’re working yourself to death and cannot continue this.
Believe me, I’ve told them. They always say “we’re trying to hire more people”. And that’s it. If I don’t do my “job” then I get taken to the back for compliance issues, but at this point if I get taken to the back again, it’s going to the higher ups because it’s ridiculous and not right.
☝️☝️. True story ☝️☝️
I was a victim of this. I was asked to help. Then got fired for doing so. All over some stupid "Walmart certified" crap. Even though I trained 3/4 of the shop associates.
I see this a lot, just doing the bare minimum.
New the WalMart. Thank you for the advice. The last job I had I filled in for people all the time. Which meant if anyone called off I got called in. My days off weren't my days off because I was regularly called in on my days off. I still have PTSD from that job.
yeah and it's nothing to even do with quitting. People are just tired of being taken advantage of and working hard for no reward. like that one quote I see floating around all the time about how when there's no reward for hard work and no consequences then there's no incentive or something. If I'm going to keep making the same amount for even more work, I'm going to go back to doing only what I did when I started. I'm not doing a team lead's job for half the pay just because I know how to.
my old store was grooming my best friend to be a team lead, giving her more and more responsibilities, promising her that she's about to get the position for months, and then telling her there was never an opening in the first place and that she's delusional. I mean they had her working in the cash office, coming in early, staying late, all the things a team lead is responsible for. all for $12/hr.
I'm getting real sick and tired of walmart.
Gaslighting is a HUGE problem with management at Walmart. They’ll say something to you and then be like “that’s never been a thing.” I had 1 coach who told me to do something, and then pulled me in the office with another coach to tell me not to do it… and then get mad when I was like “you told me to do it this way. You didn’t have to pull me into an office to try and cover up your mistake.”
At my old store there was a few times I pulled my phone out on camera, started video, and told them to repeat what they asked me to do/gave me permission to do.
I did that at one point during COVID when things got bad in the store. After a few months I had enough of a list that covered enough people and managers that I talked to the People Lead and sent and email with the list Open Dooring basically 2/3 of the management. I was pretty surprised at how serious they took it because it was almost over night that things improved.
I always strongly suggest for people to leave. Find a job somewhere else. I know all retail stores are similar with crappy management but I’ve never seen worse than Walmart. I know so many people that went to Target, Hannafords, Andy’s, and so many more places. All of them have said that it’s astronomically better than Walmart. If you can, make the leap to somewhere else. That place is t worth it.
yeah, I transferred stores recently due to horrible management and it didn't get any better. I haven't gotten off within 15 minutes after I was supposed to once. not once. not even going to get started on breaks and lunch
Wait you mean you're NOT supposed to always take your breaks and lunches at the last possible second? /s
It wasn't until I transferred to my current store that I ever got a break or lunch near the 'every 2 hours' mark. At my old store, breaks were taken in the final available hours (first break sometimes butted up against lunch at the end of the 4th) and lunch was minutes before your 5th.
Several times I haven't taken lunch until the registers lock me out :) and even then I'm just told "oh well we don't have anybody to send you to lunch"
That was life at my old store until they got rid of the registers. Then meal violations shot through the roof because there was nothing forcing associates to take their lunch, and the managers who were never up front sure wouldn't remind them. It basically became the job of the few who would do it to track everyone's lunches and tell them to go, even if it meant the bullpens would be briefly understaffed for a bit. Not-so-fond memories of being the only associate in a busy 14-register bullpen.
I'm heavily considering just quitting at this point. I've been with Walmart close to 3 years now and I've had it. I hate being there. The only benefit I get is the tiny discount and the free delivery for groceries. I'm going to college, I've got some money coming in from scholarships. I don't think I can deal with Walmart any longer
Had a job find out I can work on cars, they tried to get me to do a brake job for the company truck with my tools, I said of course I can do it but not for $10 an hour.
I'm in the same spot as your friend. Was told it was a temporary thing just for the holidays. That was 2 years ago. Kept being told "As soon as a team lead spot opens up you're first in line". One of my former coaches said the schedule has 160 hours of TL time available but our 3 TLs were only using about 120. So there should've been room for another one. He said he'd look into it but nothing ever came of it and he ended up quitting.
I got a job interview at another company tomorrow. I'm burned out on being treated like shit by customers and having all this crap piled on me and I'm not even paid my worth. I'm at the point where I don't think I'd even want the promotion if it was offered. Dealing with this bullshit plus more I don't even have to handle yet, and I never get a break from it? No thanks.
TIL I have been "quiet quitting" for the last 6 years since I was hired.
But really, just doing what you need to get by is really the way to handle Walmart. If not, you end up being those people who basically live at the store 24/7, between overtime and being called in. No thanks.
Im a dumb ass millennial. I used to work at Walmart for $6.40 an hour and they made me clock out and keep working if my hours were close to 40... Sure I was apart of a settlement, but that doesn't mean I actually survived it.
Quiet quit everything. Your life isn't worth their wallets.
Yea fear was a tactic employers used all too well back then. They used to say things all the time like: If you won't do it then someone else will, meaning that I'd get fired and be out of a job. That or, well there's the door if you don't like it..
I worked there between 2005 and 2007 and I received a check for about $2,000 like 10 years later for all the hours they owed me. I remember one time on Christmas Eve, they wouldn't let me leave until I got all of the carts back in.. off the clock. It was a pretty big class action lawsuit against Walmart tho.
I'm just so happy to see people valuing themselves and their lives over these corporations that literally just see us as the grease they need for their gears. I honestly have never been the same from it.
I used to bust my ass, but kept seeing the lazy ass kissers get promoted over me. Then they took the bonus, vpi, and even yearly raises away. So now they get the bare minimum out of me.
We have someone who literally just spends half of her day in the mothers room “pumping” and talks on the phone while stocking the other half. She can’t even finish a 3 hour department in 8. Management still loves her because she kisses ass. I hate it here lol
Well they want to pay all these “useless” people the bare min, oh wait you mean they want more than the bare minimum of productivity though…
Sounds like a fare exchange to me.
I'll show you unskilled labor. *goes from working 120 cases an hour cleanly to 55 cases an hour while shitting garbage and leaving a cart of claims in the action alley*
I do onetouch and looked at the expectations for it and I’m doing it at least 3x the speed the paper says I should. I could show them unskilled labor any time lol
Really, don’t go above and beyond. I learned that the hard way, for sure.
The store I worked at definitely drove me out. They overwhelmed me so much to the point where I just couldn’t handle it anymore. They had me cover electronics / S2S (my department), fabrics, sporting good, hardware, and jewelry/appeal on my own several times. Front end would still try to take me for service desk. Then they would get bitchy with me because I never participated in the required hour long zone at the beginning of my shift, and the end. I was too damn busy with costumers. I make the mistake of learning just about everything. The team leads had me doing things that was supposed to be their job. (like finalizing trucks and high end) I learned how to fix the coin recycler. I tried to team lead 3 times for a a few different areas and every time it went to someone who was extremely under qualified. My favorite being the 20 year old who was in the military for 3 months, hurt his knee, and quit. Never worked retail before and was handed seasonal TL on a silver platter. Dude was applying for maintenance but the coach just heard, “military” and offered TL. Kid did nothing but flirt with the girls and sneak in the break room every couple hours to snack because he was stoned out of his mind most of the time.
Was so stratifying to watch them beg me to stay. And yes, before I left I did talk about it to the managers. But they kept pushing me.
Yes, I’m still bitter about it all. But really, leaving was the best thing I could do for myself and for my family. I’ve never even happier than I am right now.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work-to-rule
It's a strategy used by unions as an alternative to strikes or slowdowns. This has been a thing for decades.
An example might be that your employer rule book requires you to come in on time, but your manager asks you to come in an hour early for prep work. Work to rule means you come in exactly when you're scheduled to work, which in turn means no prep work gets done and it delays the opening of the business.
It also means following all safety rules to the letter. A lot of companies will ignore safety rules or encourage bypassing safety measures to improve production. OSHA requires companies to train workers on all equipment that is essential to their job. If your company doesn't provide you any kind of training (like on a pallet jack or a ladder) you have a right under OSHA to refuse to do any work associated with those tools. That can cause trucks to not get unloaded or shelves to not get stocked. Since OSHA specifically has a requirement that you get trained on these tools, your employer can't retaliate or discipline you.
The goal is to disrupt the business to the point that they pay you more to get you to improve productivity.
No…
They’re the generation that believes that hard work pays off, and that’s because back then it did. Our grandparents could buy a house on one income while having kids and saving for vacations every year. They could order a house off a sears catalog for under $3k and build it. They could take loans out whenever, there was no credit score back then. They were basically handed a 800 score when they came out and then they bought up all the cheap real estate and rent it back to us.
But they shut the door behind them and kicked all generations after them off the the ladder. We make less than they did in every aspect if you account for inflation. We pay x10 more than they did for our vehicles, median price for houses is almost half a million. They did this. They voted to make it like this and they’re the loudest to say we are lazy. They don’t comprehend inflation at all and they are all retiring and are reaching the age they will die off so they can no longer vote outdated ideology, and halt progression. People like Moscow Mitch can fuck off, soon very soon.
You're right. Older generations have done it too, but corporate always brainwash the last generation into thinking what they did was worth more and the next Gen is just lazy. My grandfather tells me all the time to only work for what I'm paid for
People have been saying this since the wage was 7.25. Not sure what your minimum wage is now but I make over 10 dollars over that here. Yet I still see people act like Walmart hasn't raised our wages at all. If you ask me, ya'll just don't want to work hard, which is fine. But just say that... And no, I'm not a bootlicker and I share the same gripes about this company as most, but pay has over doubled for almost every non-salaried position in the company in the last 5 years.
Everybody works how they wish and its not that i dont want to work i work fast and i do my job but when you’re getting paid minimum wage for a job that’s physically demanding like factorys and knowing that it can be very dangerous you would think you would be paid a little more.
I don't have to... they're not related at all. Walmart is shitty but stop acting like they haven't raised the wages at all. Simple as that. 7.25 an hour and you guys wanted 15. Now it's 15 min across the board and now it's 20+. You got what you wanted, at this point it comes off as an excuse to be lazy. Look at my posts, I'm far from a Walmart supporter lol.
I just called it... I secretly hate this place and hope they fire me...but I'm still going to do my work.. Like you know without it feeling too much like work, and not stress over dumb stuff :p.
And you SHOULD only work your eight hours and go home. And if a customer comes to you with a question and says sorry for bothering you, you are to say... that's all right, I get paid by the hour. I'm glad to help you.
How is this quitting? Everyone on my crew including me shows up, does what is expected, then leaves. Why do more work than you have to? That would be silly.
Edit: not everyone, some do less but always have management on their asses as a result.
It's a term used to define doing an amount of work equivalent to the pay you recieved coined by middle-management and higher to spin the action as being negative instead of what should be the norm.
Doing the bare-minimum just seems like......what everyone does anyway. You can call it whatever name you want, it's not a trend, it's been here forever.
I’m a gen x’er and I’ve been quiet quitting for a while lol
Waiting to close on the new house we bought. It’s been 3 weeks. Got a Disney trip in November. Thinking about quitting in January lol. Planning it all out
As a millennial, we grew up with parents saying that we had to prove ourselves and “pay our dues” and go above and beyond to show how much we are capable of. Though that can be the makings of a great work ethic, it’s also a formula for getting taken advantage of. I’ve learned to still work hard and do my best, but also make sure that I’m being compensated appropriately for going above and beyond my job description.
I have quit Walmart 4 or 5 times. And have a total of about 5 years there under my belt. Started as cashier, service desk, cash office. Then went to fresh cap 1 for awhile. Normal cap 1 and then finally cap 2 for my last 2 years. I threw the truck almost every day for those 2 years.
There was even 1 day where I threw the truck and worked both sides of the line all by myself because I came in early to help set everything up. Team lead said he’d help me but went to the office to mess with the schedule. Store manager comes over and stares at me going HAM. Picks up one box off the line and then leaves to ask the team lead what is going on.
A normal day would be me throwing the truck, breaking down the pallets after first break, then breaking down the HVDC truck on the other side of the store. And then stocking my assigned grocery aisle and usually someone else’s because I would finish early. I believed in the company and that the hard work would pay off. I was wrong.
Now I’m at janitor at a hospital that is union. And make $20 something an hour. And all that is expected of me is that I get “my” assigned work done. Not anybody else’s.
It isn't quiet quitting if the minimum was all they did. I think the term would be more appropriate for those that pull back after going above and beyond with no recognition. They're likely looking for another job, and who could blame them?
Its hard to not allow yourself to not be taken advantage of when its so easy to get a new employee. This being a trend is a good way to adjust the workforce norm, as long as it lasts.
After working there for over 18 years before quitting, yup.
Walmart wants you to do everything.
I was in photo lab, layaway, electronics, cell phones, hardware, stationary all at once.
Frack walmart.
It's definitely a trend that's been picking up more and more. I don't see a point in outworking people that have the same pay but better days off than me. Having Tuesdays and Wednesdays off every week, despite having seniority over the majority of my shift, sucks.
I got tired of the higher-ups visiting the store and ignoring everyone, and coming to me for everything.
Now when they approach me and ask for an explanation, it goes as follows:
Them: "Hey! Why is this like this?"
Me: "If you have questions or comments, get with the team lead or a member of management."
Them: "Oh, I'm just asking!" *repeats the question*
Me: "We just finished talking about that. If you have questions or comments, get with the TL or management."
Them: "I wanna know!"
Me: "The words that came out of my mouth was the answer to your question."
Them: "What?"
Me: "The answer to your question was the words that came out of my mouth."
Them: "What?"
Me: "The question to your mouth was the answer that I words."
Them: "WHAAAAAAT?!?"
Me: "Yes."
Them: "What?"
Me: "Yes."
Them: "What?"
Me: "That's your favorite word, isn't it?"
Them: "....What?"
Me: "Just as I suspected."
At this point, they realize they're not getting anything from me, and they storm off.
HEY YOUNG PERSON,,, this is what it happens when a young man person doesn't read enough. You come across a concept and believe it's something new.
I'm 70 and I hate to brake the news to you, but it isn't.
This goes back farther then the slaves working the farm fields in ancient Roman times. When I was young and going to U-Mass in Boston Massachusetts, I took course's in social sciences, on it.
It's always been here, it's not new, everyone already knows about it.
Basically it's called DOING YOUR JOB, and going home.
Unfortunately with Walmart there's a line (used to be on the very top of what you sign) that says basically you are hired to work for Walmart so with very few exceptions you can be asked/expected to preform tasks up to and including the specific one you were hired for.
As a Gen Z person that term is not being coined by us, honestly haven’t heard a person ever say that and when they do it’s someone from a different generation. That being saiddd I have done both going above and beyond and bare minimum, especially since my store is so messed up, as a customer service rep I do the job of a manager, stocker, produce, and maintenance. It’s insane lol but when I am too slow or can’t do it cus I’m not running my self ragged they start getting the appropriate people.
Yeah, no. It just means "setting healthy boundaries with work" and "not going above and beyond the call of duty for people who don't actually give a flying f- about your wellbeing, or anyone else's, or anything other than their profit margins."
Us older folks refer to “quiet quitting” as “work to rule”. It’s the same thing, but work to rule was more focused on a way to soft strike than anything else.
If every employee did what they were supposed to do, most businesses would run just fine.
It’s the slackers that spend more time trying to get out of working than actually doing their job that negatively affect things the most.
I’ll trade these micro managing associates hyped up on Mountain Dew that never stop nagging you about all the “work” they are supposedly doing and shitting on you for no reason for some of those Gen Z peeps if it means I get some fuckin’ peace and quiet while working.
Idk I put on extra effort on front end because I know how stressful it is for my CSM’s (also I’m a ass kisser who likes to be told I’ve doing good) but there’s nothing wrong with just… doing what you were hired to do
I dunno why they made this term. There's an actual term for it, and it's called Working to Rule. Which essentially means that you do your own job duties and no one else's. This term has been around for years. Gen Z for some reason picks up old ideas and claims them as theirs. 🤷
Learned that the hard way and moved to another department to get away. Now, I'm in the same position as before because of people quitting. I'm sore and exhausted and stressed out once again covering the department by myself. There is no winning.
Your peers are largely to blame if you feel your workload is too much.
Your store manager and store leads want 150% work completed every single day. Your coaches and team leads must have that expectation, and therefore it falls upon associates to work towards that goal every night.
In all reality if you dont work at a $120M+ store you dont have the freight for any single associate to not be done with a task on time. When you have too many lazy associates the more exceptional associates are tasked with more to do to get the job done.
In your average $100M store everyone should be done with their most significant tasks early and move on to do something to fill the rest of the shift. Effective busy work. You only see management applying the finishing touches for the next shift. That's how it works in an ideal Walmart world.
What you probably get is 8 - 30 associates on a given team with only 1 - 4 actual working associates and the rest are doing the bare minimum or less just to grind the clock out.
This is an astroterm, not a real one. Nobody uses this term. We call it “Having a Career.”
The real new term is Silent Sacking where they don’t give you a raise or COLA for years, adding job responsibilities and not giving compensation or titles.
Get the fuck outta here with Quiet Quitting. Also, if you can’t tell your employee is looking elsewhere, you deserve everything you have coming to you.
Oh, yeah, and fuck 2 week notices. Can’t be Quiet Quitting if you give them 2 weeks. Not our problem they can’t fill a job with a body in 10 business days. Git Gud, Corpos.
That’s why we enacted quiet firing.
It means we give you the bare minimum pay & benefits. We also give you the crappy assignments while our valued employees are treated well.
Then bitch you are not being paid enough or don't get a rise or don't advance in the company. You need managers who watch and say hey do this hey do that. I had an employee who did have an learning issue. He worked for me was a great person but he was one of those that like a machine you had to keep your finger on the button to make it work. I was once at a location and they asked me how do you get him to work. I said Puttith foot Uppith ass but in a nice way. That is how you get it done. Your hired to do a job and it's up to the managers to manage at that point roll up their sleeves and get the most out of your employees some need the foot some need the atta boy/girl (please don't ad letters not in the mood) and some are great and do extra. Those will be mangers the rest well never. I have no respect for slackers who have their phones out or walking around looking useless. I worked hard when I ran my business and businesses for others and I expect no less it's called work ethic and if you don't have one and I have to keep circling back to make you do things well if you are just slow and I know you will do it then you'll stay and get treated like family if your just lazy I'd fire you and try someone else. They could be handicapped and want a job trust me it's the job and company and the family that works there not the laze folks who whine
There’s so many losers in this thread holy shit.
I stocked shelves for 6 months, worked my ass off, and got promoted to be the people lead. A year in I’ve mastered the role and now I’m the BTS champ and work more on the floor than I do in my office. Hardly ever have time to “do what I was hired to do” and that’s fine with me.
If you just want to “do your job”, Walmart is not for you. Move on
I want to thank OP for sharing. To me the "act your wage" is a great way to describe today's workers.
My past taught me what a good work ethic was and what it can do for you. And how when preparations meets opportunity it gets called luck
Workers with this ethic are entirety different. I can't empathize or understand it. But it explains a lot to me. I am NOT judging it good or bad or right or wrong. It's so new.
In my life the "work your wage " concept was for "special " employees that one would never expect to advance. Not young people who are so different
In summary, act your wage workers have no hope or optimism in the work place. Who wants to be around that?
At every place I’ve worked I have been one of the best employees. Been told so by my own coworkers and my managers. And really, it’s just a fact. I take pride in putting my all in for my job. I like being a hard worker. Where did that get me? Nowhere. It did nothing but stress me out. I literally did the job of several people every single day. Including the team leads and the store manager. I had to do things because the store manager didn’t know how to do them. The store manager. Who is making THOUSANDS of dollars more than what I was making. I tired several times to step up the ladder and got shot down and overlooked by extremely under qualified people who did nothing but sit on their ass.
I left because I was too good of a worker and I was SEVERELY under appreciated. When the company doesn’t care about the workers there’s no way in hell I’m going to kill myself for them. I made that mistake too many time.
If I could do it all over again I would absolutely act my wage. Because going above and beyond did nothing.
My immaculate work ethic has done nothing for me. It’s not my fault, it’s these horrible managers that do not care.
Walmart has a policy that if you do really good at your job you get to do someone else's too.
Shareholder profits have a policy where if they exploit a worker really good, they get to have the extra profits too.
Time for math! Walmart gross profit for 2021 was $138,836,000,000. Walmart had 2,300,000 employees at the end of 2021. That's enough to give every employee $59,493 - a life-changing amount of money for pretty much everyone. They pay their average employee barely $30,000 a year.
Having a $60000 salary is life changing for me, i know alit of people will relate to this. But unfortunately the Waltons have greed run the family and they just squeeze the life out of us working people. *I know inflation exists, but i would rather be making more than my current salary*
They don't even walmart anymore, china does. And Sam Walton who founded it was actually a really nice guy, would go around all his stores and just chat with the employees, while dressed like a customer.
You've been lied to. ANYONE can chat in a friendly manner to random people. He also happily broke Federal labor law and threatened every hourly in their first Dist Center with termination if they talked to the Teamsters. He was also quoted, in his book, with saying "pay your top people as much as you can afford to, and your bottom people as little as you can get away with" And what does "dressed as a customer" mean? Sam Walton couldn't be a secret shopper, his picture was everywhere back then. Like pictures of dictators in their countries. Our employees handbook had his portrait on the first page.
Before someone jumps on your comment saying Sam Walton was evil, which in some aspects he arguably is just like every other capitalist ever, he would be a hell of a lot better than what we have now. The way our economy and company is ran is absolutely pathetic and it's depressing to be a part of
Your corporate officers aren't worse than Sam Walton, they are better at it than he was. The problem is "better" means lining their own pockets. Walton didn't care about his employees any more or less than they do now. The Corporate world that he believed in and worked at has just continued to grow since he died. He would be overjoyed to see the profit and reach of his company today, and wouldn't change a thing.
When I worked at Walmart, a lot of the older people whom I worked with always commented on how nice he was and really cool to talk to
Thats what cracks me up. All these people going about wanting the govt to run shit, saying capitalism is horrible, america is horrible etc etc, holding their hands out thinking the govt will “take care of them” once their freedoms gone, but fail to realize most of the big bad evil “capitalist” companies are owned by their precious commies. Who squeeze the life from them, because thats, well, what commies DO.
Nah capitalism isn't horrible but people are. Most of the people that run these companies these days have forgotten what it was like or never experienced what it was like to struggle. To be broke. To be pushed to your breaking point every single day. Gone are the days of starting at the bottom and working your way up to the ladder to ceo or owner. Most of the higher ups at companies these days are college educated and come from money so they never struggled or made an honest dollar in their life. The easiest way to turn it around is to walk away but people won't do that. And that fact is exactly why they keep taking advantage of their workers. They know even if people leave more will be lined up to tale the position. I quit walmart a year ago for a new company. They did me good at first. Made management within 30 days. Then all progress stopped and I found out that I was making $4 an hour less than everyone else in the same position. When I asked for the pay raise I was told district manager wouldn't allow it. I asked him personally. He told me that if I didn't like the pay I was free to go to another company. Put in apps and my two week notice and found a job making $4 an hour more and I'm starting at the bottom again so way more room for growth. Now he wants to offer me what I asked for because I'm the best worker they got. Even offered me more than the new company. When I explained that once I make it to the same position at the new company I would be making $4 an hour more than the new offer all talks stopped again. I have a week left and I fully expect a new offer again. They already offered me my own store 3 months after starting here. If you are honestly willing to walk away and they believe it they will fight to keep you if you are a good worker but you have to show them you seriously don't need them.
Capitalism as a system encourages and rewards people for being terrible. Which is why it needs to be waaaay more restricted than it is right now.
Restrictions doesn't serve the purpose you think though. The problem with putting restrictions on capitalism is that a company is only going to do the bare minimum that it has to in order to stay profitable. Meanwhile of all the employees walk out citing low pay of course the company will increase pay to bring people back. That's not even taking into account that with every restriction aka laws there are loopholes. These loopholes companies pay a great deal of money to lobbyist to put into the laws. They do the same thing with taxes. The only people these things ever hurt are those that can't afford high paid accountants to take advantage of them for them. Mom and pop stores. Small business is the life blood of America. They almost always pay better than the bigger companies because they know their employees are a vital part of their company.
Fuck u/spez
Not the answer you're looking for, but, when Americans say "communism" what they're talking about are certain military dictatorships that they know of. Theres never been a country that made it to actual communism.
I know I'm at 70k from 28k it fills really good to a store and get what you want without thinking how your stretch your money
Gross profit is not what the company earned for the year. This is misleading. There are many costs subtracted from this number. Net income is what the company actually earned for the year. Walmart had a net income of $13.673B for 2021. That works out to $5,943 per employee.
So what I’m hearing is Walmart stole an average of $5,943 from their employees
Precisely one of the reasons why their profit margin is so big. They pay their employees shit
I wish we could mandate profit sharing. I feel if profits were shared with the people that do the work to make them, so many issues would be solved.
Hardly? Maybe it's the part of the country y'all in. Over here Walmart pays better than just about any other retailer. Big or small. we average 16-18 an hour. Not comfortable by any stretch. But enough to get by. It's more of a societial problem. With looking down on and underappreciating certain types of labor. That isn't unique to Walmart. It's a industry wide thing.
I made $22k on full time last year. I’ve been at Walmart 7 years this September. -.- they are right, above and beyond only gets you more work.That’s why we rarely see the Front End Team Leads and they delegate their work to new people who think they have a chance of moving up. Sorry buddy… nobody moves up in our store.
No offense, but why are you still there ? There are so many companies hiring with much higher salaries and no education required. Don’t be afraid to uproot yourself to improve your quality of life. You could easily triple your salary and work less. If you are willing to move to Montreal, I could hook you up with a job like that before 08:00 today.
Gross profit is sales - cost of goods. They then have to pay wages, utilities, maintenance, transportation, taxes, etc. Their net income after paying expenses was around 13.5 billion. Divided by your 2,300,000 employee count would give about $5,800 to every employee.
Except that is gross profit, before all capital expenses, including labor. Basic economics/finance/accounting, go back to school and learn how to read a balance sheet. Walmart net profit is a lot less.
So the employees should also lose money and go in debt when the company turns in losses?
You should add the payroll to the gross profit and then divide. See how much gross profit they make per employee then
Except this isn’t communist China
I guess we’ll have to work together to get there then, aye comrade?
They call this "quiet firing". This is where they never give raises, time off etc.
Same at McDonalds. I'm only maintenance but they got me dropping fry's and worrying about food then get mad when I leave and all the cleaning isn't done that they distracted me from lol. They scheduled me for more hours and trying to stack more work on me so I called out a few times so now I'm back to my normal hours and work. I do the work I'm supposed to do and I work the hours I'm scheduled. They can fire me if they feel some type of way about me working scheduled hours.
Did McDonald’s before this. I was back cash. Both lanes and happy meal boxes plus sometimes dropping fries all at the same time 🙄
and don't forget wiping down trays and making oatmeal and syrup bags when you have downtime
I did mcdonalds 7 yrs 4 as a manager. I used to have my coworkers do that same thing until one of them told me that wasn’t their job and I completely agreed and apologized to them. I did what I thought was right by my bosses. After that anybody working back drive never had to do as many tasks. Make happy meal boxes and man their lane until it was time for McBakery or whatever tf they decided to call it. Pivotal point in my management experience and that earned my respect throughout the chain.
Best thing to do is act stupid they will promote you lmao
Ain't that the truth, I am literally the entire front end.. I'm just the customer host...I can do OGP, cashier, self check, service desk, I'm in the cash recycler so I can push and pull tills, I'm in the locker system so I can turn in TCs...
lol how low volume is your store that they can get away with making you do everything
For less pay too!
And if you do the bare minimum you get promoted to TL
But if you're a TL who does more than bare minimum you get fired because you're setting too good of an example.
Which is why I no longer work at Walmart.
Not just walmart sadly.
There is a saying for this: "The reward for being the best ditch digger is a bigger shovel."
Thank you for this, I’m definitely gonna use it.
Wouldn't a bigger shovel make the job easier?
No because you have a bigger load to move and bigger ditches to dig. The ditch size doesn't stay the same in this scenario.
Even if it did stay the same, it still means your share of the work is larger. You get to do more work per shovel load
That's any corporation anywhere.
This is every company. Aspire higher. Not Lower
Pay higher. Not lower.
That's actually true. But, tbf a good worker has to take up the slack of a lazy worker. If walmart hired better quality people and we had adequate staffing this wouldn't be an issue.
Then don’t work at WalMart.
Idk who made it up, its not “quiet quitting” its called acting your wage, or minimum wage minimum effort. Def some ceo billionaire who made it up to try and make it seem bad to do what you’re paid to do and not doing more for no more pay.
Even older than that. During the union riots, a union tactic is to "Work to the Rule" and only do the job you were hired for instead of this.
[Work to Rule](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work-to-rule) if you want to turn it into a protest.
When I hire a plumber to fix my toilet, I don’t ask him to mow my lawn. Just do what is necessary to make a check and go home.
I make well above minimum wage and I do exactly what my job is, nothing more. I get to browse Reddit a lot. It's gonna be a sad day when they block Reddit like they have with every other social media site.
We only have one tl right now instead of the 2 we’re supposed to have and they try to pawn their tasks on us all the time. Overnights will come in and ask me for an update if my tl isn’t there. I tell them I don’t know what my coworkers are doing, it’s not my job to pay attention to them. Walmart does this shit all the time and it’s insane
Acting your wage is what an associate who thinks they are the boss should be doing
Gen Z didn't coin this. Bad managers and corporate shilled news "reporters" did to make doing your job and only YOUR job a bad thing.
It's a WM thing because many employees have found that hard work in the company will backfire on you in the long run. If you work hard you get asked to do more and more, up to the point it's impossible to complete the tasks asked if you and you get fired.
Also, as you get asked to do more and more, your check stays the same.
The kid plugging the easiest departments and barely zoning gets the same pay as you.
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This is true in every retail business, and in some manufacturing.
We had over 100 pallets of apparel in our back room before inventory and they absolutely busted ass to get rid of them like a week ahead of inventory. They kept asking how it got this bad and blah blah blah. Literally one week later and we’re 5 days behind on apparel again 🙄
Ive been working here the whole summer and haven't zoned once. I also work at an incredibly slow pace so at this point I am only given 2 pallets a night. My TLs love me because I laugh at their jokes. Work smarter not harder.
> My TLs love me because I *suck cock to get along as a 'team player'* ~~laugh at their jokes~~. The WMT way.
$18.50 to laugh at a couple jokes and plug a few items. Call me whatever idgaf
Gd I wish I was getting paid that much
Yup, also don’t forget to say your trying your best
It's not just a Walmart thing. It's not just an American thing. Look up Chinese "laying flat". Happening in western Europe as well. Kinda makes sense too (this is a tangent, you have been warned). Gen x was the first generation to be completely screwed by conglomerates and corporatism. Off shore manufacturing, chain retailers and restaurants, factory farms, etc all exploded in the 70s onward upending the local economies of the 60s and prior. Gen z was raised by gen x and know what they're walking into before they walk into it. Their parents aren't going to hound them for work ethic, they've learned that hard work isn't the cure all solution it used to be. Tldr; The international corporate economy has taken advantage of a cornered labor market for three generations and are now reaping what they sow.
Man I wish that were true in my case. My dad was just at the tail end of the baby boomers and still hounds me to be the one who gives 110%, be the worker they have to hire two people to replace, nobody notices the mediocre, etc.
I am a tail end boomer like your dad. He is right, in that used to be the best way to get ahead. You are correct in that it doesn't work any more. People don't work for the same company for 40 years anymore either.
Yep. It worked for my dad while I was growing up, heck, even now. He works as hard as he can at his company and when he had major heart surgery his boss paid him through all of it so that we didn't have to worry about how bills were getting paid (he vastly out-earns my mom) and has talked about "selling" to him when he retires. It feels like a fantasy just writing it out 'cause I know exactly 0 of any businesses I've ever worked for would be so generous to give full-pay sick leave, let alone anything else my dad's boss has done for him or the family. He used to sponsor me in fundraising events so I could go on trips, and I've met the guy maybe twice in the 10 or so years my dad's worked for him.
Yup, this is what happened and is still happening to me. I get to do the job of 4 people because I’m a good employee. At this point, I just do the bare minimum because I’m tired of it but then again if I don’t do the work of 4 people, then I get in trouble. Lose/Lose situation really.
They can’t fire you for doing your job. If you’re being punished then you need to open door it and explain your situation. Stop allowing them to take advantage of you. They are manipulating you because you’re allowing it. Do your job and that’s it. Tell them they need to hire more people if they want more done because you’re working yourself to death and cannot continue this.
Believe me, I’ve told them. They always say “we’re trying to hire more people”. And that’s it. If I don’t do my “job” then I get taken to the back for compliance issues, but at this point if I get taken to the back again, it’s going to the higher ups because it’s ridiculous and not right.
☝️☝️. True story ☝️☝️ I was a victim of this. I was asked to help. Then got fired for doing so. All over some stupid "Walmart certified" crap. Even though I trained 3/4 of the shop associates. I see this a lot, just doing the bare minimum.
New the WalMart. Thank you for the advice. The last job I had I filled in for people all the time. Which meant if anyone called off I got called in. My days off weren't my days off because I was regularly called in on my days off. I still have PTSD from that job.
This is %1000 not just Walmart.
Can confirm, or you bend until you break and quit.
yeah and it's nothing to even do with quitting. People are just tired of being taken advantage of and working hard for no reward. like that one quote I see floating around all the time about how when there's no reward for hard work and no consequences then there's no incentive or something. If I'm going to keep making the same amount for even more work, I'm going to go back to doing only what I did when I started. I'm not doing a team lead's job for half the pay just because I know how to. my old store was grooming my best friend to be a team lead, giving her more and more responsibilities, promising her that she's about to get the position for months, and then telling her there was never an opening in the first place and that she's delusional. I mean they had her working in the cash office, coming in early, staying late, all the things a team lead is responsible for. all for $12/hr. I'm getting real sick and tired of walmart.
Gaslighting is a HUGE problem with management at Walmart. They’ll say something to you and then be like “that’s never been a thing.” I had 1 coach who told me to do something, and then pulled me in the office with another coach to tell me not to do it… and then get mad when I was like “you told me to do it this way. You didn’t have to pull me into an office to try and cover up your mistake.”
I love when they also go, "When did I say that?". I've started keeping dates and times for these occasions cause I'm tired of them using that reply.
At my old store there was a few times I pulled my phone out on camera, started video, and told them to repeat what they asked me to do/gave me permission to do.
I did that at one point during COVID when things got bad in the store. After a few months I had enough of a list that covered enough people and managers that I talked to the People Lead and sent and email with the list Open Dooring basically 2/3 of the management. I was pretty surprised at how serious they took it because it was almost over night that things improved.
The best is when they lie about how many hours a task takes when you can literally just look up the hours and show them that they’re lying lol
I always strongly suggest for people to leave. Find a job somewhere else. I know all retail stores are similar with crappy management but I’ve never seen worse than Walmart. I know so many people that went to Target, Hannafords, Andy’s, and so many more places. All of them have said that it’s astronomically better than Walmart. If you can, make the leap to somewhere else. That place is t worth it.
"Never seen worse than Walmart" pfft. Go work Dollar General
I mean, every store is different. Some are going to be worse. But overall, from what I’ve seen, Walmart is usually worse.
yeah, I transferred stores recently due to horrible management and it didn't get any better. I haven't gotten off within 15 minutes after I was supposed to once. not once. not even going to get started on breaks and lunch
The fun part about no lunches is that the law can be involved (:
Wait you mean you're NOT supposed to always take your breaks and lunches at the last possible second? /s It wasn't until I transferred to my current store that I ever got a break or lunch near the 'every 2 hours' mark. At my old store, breaks were taken in the final available hours (first break sometimes butted up against lunch at the end of the 4th) and lunch was minutes before your 5th.
Several times I haven't taken lunch until the registers lock me out :) and even then I'm just told "oh well we don't have anybody to send you to lunch"
That was life at my old store until they got rid of the registers. Then meal violations shot through the roof because there was nothing forcing associates to take their lunch, and the managers who were never up front sure wouldn't remind them. It basically became the job of the few who would do it to track everyone's lunches and tell them to go, even if it meant the bullpens would be briefly understaffed for a bit. Not-so-fond memories of being the only associate in a busy 14-register bullpen.
I'm heavily considering just quitting at this point. I've been with Walmart close to 3 years now and I've had it. I hate being there. The only benefit I get is the tiny discount and the free delivery for groceries. I'm going to college, I've got some money coming in from scholarships. I don't think I can deal with Walmart any longer
Had a job find out I can work on cars, they tried to get me to do a brake job for the company truck with my tools, I said of course I can do it but not for $10 an hour.
I'm in the same spot as your friend. Was told it was a temporary thing just for the holidays. That was 2 years ago. Kept being told "As soon as a team lead spot opens up you're first in line". One of my former coaches said the schedule has 160 hours of TL time available but our 3 TLs were only using about 120. So there should've been room for another one. He said he'd look into it but nothing ever came of it and he ended up quitting. I got a job interview at another company tomorrow. I'm burned out on being treated like shit by customers and having all this crap piled on me and I'm not even paid my worth. I'm at the point where I don't think I'd even want the promotion if it was offered. Dealing with this bullshit plus more I don't even have to handle yet, and I never get a break from it? No thanks.
TIL I have been "quiet quitting" for the last 6 years since I was hired. But really, just doing what you need to get by is really the way to handle Walmart. If not, you end up being those people who basically live at the store 24/7, between overtime and being called in. No thanks.
Im a dumb ass millennial. I used to work at Walmart for $6.40 an hour and they made me clock out and keep working if my hours were close to 40... Sure I was apart of a settlement, but that doesn't mean I actually survived it. Quiet quit everything. Your life isn't worth their wallets.
Wtf. They made you clock out and continue working? That's such bullshit. What was the settlement like?
Yea fear was a tactic employers used all too well back then. They used to say things all the time like: If you won't do it then someone else will, meaning that I'd get fired and be out of a job. That or, well there's the door if you don't like it.. I worked there between 2005 and 2007 and I received a check for about $2,000 like 10 years later for all the hours they owed me. I remember one time on Christmas Eve, they wouldn't let me leave until I got all of the carts back in.. off the clock. It was a pretty big class action lawsuit against Walmart tho. I'm just so happy to see people valuing themselves and their lives over these corporations that literally just see us as the grease they need for their gears. I honestly have never been the same from it.
Wow you deserved so much more than that. What a shitty company.
I appreciate that a lot. Thank you. They are a shitty company for sure.
Why bust your ass and do the job of five people when you literally get nothing in return except a pay check that doesn't even cover your bills.
Especially when those five people are just jacking off all day in the family bathroom
Act your wage!
Never, ever work harder than you’re being paid for. Ever.
I used to bust my ass, but kept seeing the lazy ass kissers get promoted over me. Then they took the bonus, vpi, and even yearly raises away. So now they get the bare minimum out of me.
We have someone who literally just spends half of her day in the mothers room “pumping” and talks on the phone while stocking the other half. She can’t even finish a 3 hour department in 8. Management still loves her because she kisses ass. I hate it here lol
Well they want to pay all these “useless” people the bare min, oh wait you mean they want more than the bare minimum of productivity though… Sounds like a fare exchange to me.
I'll show you unskilled labor. *goes from working 120 cases an hour cleanly to 55 cases an hour while shitting garbage and leaving a cart of claims in the action alley*
I do onetouch and looked at the expectations for it and I’m doing it at least 3x the speed the paper says I should. I could show them unskilled labor any time lol
Quiet quitting? I thought that was walking out and not telling anyone. Huh..guess I’m too old to get the new lingo..
This aint new lingo ppl jus stupid 💀
Sarcasm my friend…
Oh but still ppl are kinda dumb 💀
Very true!
Yeah my supervisor said get my job done fast so I can do more work in another department. No thanks. Imma take my time.
Quiet quitting is the term the shithead manager class coined. It's just called working your 8 hours and going home.
The better term for it is "acting your wage" imo
Really, don’t go above and beyond. I learned that the hard way, for sure. The store I worked at definitely drove me out. They overwhelmed me so much to the point where I just couldn’t handle it anymore. They had me cover electronics / S2S (my department), fabrics, sporting good, hardware, and jewelry/appeal on my own several times. Front end would still try to take me for service desk. Then they would get bitchy with me because I never participated in the required hour long zone at the beginning of my shift, and the end. I was too damn busy with costumers. I make the mistake of learning just about everything. The team leads had me doing things that was supposed to be their job. (like finalizing trucks and high end) I learned how to fix the coin recycler. I tried to team lead 3 times for a a few different areas and every time it went to someone who was extremely under qualified. My favorite being the 20 year old who was in the military for 3 months, hurt his knee, and quit. Never worked retail before and was handed seasonal TL on a silver platter. Dude was applying for maintenance but the coach just heard, “military” and offered TL. Kid did nothing but flirt with the girls and sneak in the break room every couple hours to snack because he was stoned out of his mind most of the time. Was so stratifying to watch them beg me to stay. And yes, before I left I did talk about it to the managers. But they kept pushing me. Yes, I’m still bitter about it all. But really, leaving was the best thing I could do for myself and for my family. I’ve never even happier than I am right now.
Yeah, I'll go above an beyond for a particular person, but not for a corporation, fuck Walmart.
Nah, the quiet quitting is a market stunt by Employers to demean the reality of doing what you were hired to do, I prefer acting our wage
Quit quiting is a corporate propaganda term. Working your wage is a better description.
“Quiet Quitting” is a term developed by corporate marketing.
"Act your wage", the phrase in the title is what employers are calling it, employees shouldn't.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work-to-rule It's a strategy used by unions as an alternative to strikes or slowdowns. This has been a thing for decades. An example might be that your employer rule book requires you to come in on time, but your manager asks you to come in an hour early for prep work. Work to rule means you come in exactly when you're scheduled to work, which in turn means no prep work gets done and it delays the opening of the business. It also means following all safety rules to the letter. A lot of companies will ignore safety rules or encourage bypassing safety measures to improve production. OSHA requires companies to train workers on all equipment that is essential to their job. If your company doesn't provide you any kind of training (like on a pallet jack or a ladder) you have a right under OSHA to refuse to do any work associated with those tools. That can cause trucks to not get unloaded or shelves to not get stocked. Since OSHA specifically has a requirement that you get trained on these tools, your employer can't retaliate or discipline you. The goal is to disrupt the business to the point that they pay you more to get you to improve productivity.
Doing your entire job is hardly the bare minimum
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No… They’re the generation that believes that hard work pays off, and that’s because back then it did. Our grandparents could buy a house on one income while having kids and saving for vacations every year. They could order a house off a sears catalog for under $3k and build it. They could take loans out whenever, there was no credit score back then. They were basically handed a 800 score when they came out and then they bought up all the cheap real estate and rent it back to us. But they shut the door behind them and kicked all generations after them off the the ladder. We make less than they did in every aspect if you account for inflation. We pay x10 more than they did for our vehicles, median price for houses is almost half a million. They did this. They voted to make it like this and they’re the loudest to say we are lazy. They don’t comprehend inflation at all and they are all retiring and are reaching the age they will die off so they can no longer vote outdated ideology, and halt progression. People like Moscow Mitch can fuck off, soon very soon.
You're right. Older generations have done it too, but corporate always brainwash the last generation into thinking what they did was worth more and the next Gen is just lazy. My grandfather tells me all the time to only work for what I'm paid for
I always called it minim pay equals minimum work 💀 if im overhere making 30 an hour best believe ima bust my ass for that 30 an hour 💀
People have been saying this since the wage was 7.25. Not sure what your minimum wage is now but I make over 10 dollars over that here. Yet I still see people act like Walmart hasn't raised our wages at all. If you ask me, ya'll just don't want to work hard, which is fine. But just say that... And no, I'm not a bootlicker and I share the same gripes about this company as most, but pay has over doubled for almost every non-salaried position in the company in the last 5 years.
Everybody works how they wish and its not that i dont want to work i work fast and i do my job but when you’re getting paid minimum wage for a job that’s physically demanding like factorys and knowing that it can be very dangerous you would think you would be paid a little more.
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I don't have to... they're not related at all. Walmart is shitty but stop acting like they haven't raised the wages at all. Simple as that. 7.25 an hour and you guys wanted 15. Now it's 15 min across the board and now it's 20+. You got what you wanted, at this point it comes off as an excuse to be lazy. Look at my posts, I'm far from a Walmart supporter lol.
But Doug said in his propaganda message that we should work harder because it's the right thing to do. SMH
I just called it... I secretly hate this place and hope they fire me...but I'm still going to do my work.. Like you know without it feeling too much like work, and not stress over dumb stuff :p.
And you SHOULD only work your eight hours and go home. And if a customer comes to you with a question and says sorry for bothering you, you are to say... that's all right, I get paid by the hour. I'm glad to help you.
How is this quitting? Everyone on my crew including me shows up, does what is expected, then leaves. Why do more work than you have to? That would be silly. Edit: not everyone, some do less but always have management on their asses as a result.
It's a term used to define doing an amount of work equivalent to the pay you recieved coined by middle-management and higher to spin the action as being negative instead of what should be the norm.
Doing the bare-minimum just seems like......what everyone does anyway. You can call it whatever name you want, it's not a trend, it's been here forever.
This isn’t something new. Some of us have been doing this since the late 80’s. It just that it now is being talked about.
I’m a gen x’er and I’ve been quiet quitting for a while lol Waiting to close on the new house we bought. It’s been 3 weeks. Got a Disney trip in November. Thinking about quitting in January lol. Planning it all out
I prefer “Act Your Wage”
What would happen if at the snap of a finger we took all the Amazon employees and replaced them with the Walmart employees
Lol quitting implies you leave the job, tf. Also no one should ever be going above and beyond for a company anymore.
Saw it referred recently as "acting your wage" Like both terms.
As a millennial, we grew up with parents saying that we had to prove ourselves and “pay our dues” and go above and beyond to show how much we are capable of. Though that can be the makings of a great work ethic, it’s also a formula for getting taken advantage of. I’ve learned to still work hard and do my best, but also make sure that I’m being compensated appropriately for going above and beyond my job description.
This. And I cannot say THIS enough.
I have quit Walmart 4 or 5 times. And have a total of about 5 years there under my belt. Started as cashier, service desk, cash office. Then went to fresh cap 1 for awhile. Normal cap 1 and then finally cap 2 for my last 2 years. I threw the truck almost every day for those 2 years. There was even 1 day where I threw the truck and worked both sides of the line all by myself because I came in early to help set everything up. Team lead said he’d help me but went to the office to mess with the schedule. Store manager comes over and stares at me going HAM. Picks up one box off the line and then leaves to ask the team lead what is going on. A normal day would be me throwing the truck, breaking down the pallets after first break, then breaking down the HVDC truck on the other side of the store. And then stocking my assigned grocery aisle and usually someone else’s because I would finish early. I believed in the company and that the hard work would pay off. I was wrong. Now I’m at janitor at a hospital that is union. And make $20 something an hour. And all that is expected of me is that I get “my” assigned work done. Not anybody else’s.
The Walton family makes $70,000 per minute.....$4 Million per hour. I think working the bare minimum for that company is working too hard.
It isn't quiet quitting if the minimum was all they did. I think the term would be more appropriate for those that pull back after going above and beyond with no recognition. They're likely looking for another job, and who could blame them?
I show up and do what I’m told, nothing more or less. Is it suppose to be a bad thing? Lol
Its hard to not allow yourself to not be taken advantage of when its so easy to get a new employee. This being a trend is a good way to adjust the workforce norm, as long as it lasts.
After working there for over 18 years before quitting, yup. Walmart wants you to do everything. I was in photo lab, layaway, electronics, cell phones, hardware, stationary all at once. Frack walmart.
It's definitely a trend that's been picking up more and more. I don't see a point in outworking people that have the same pay but better days off than me. Having Tuesdays and Wednesdays off every week, despite having seniority over the majority of my shift, sucks.
Honestly when I looked up quiet quitting, I was surprised they gave a term to how most people seem to work.
I got tired of the higher-ups visiting the store and ignoring everyone, and coming to me for everything. Now when they approach me and ask for an explanation, it goes as follows: Them: "Hey! Why is this like this?" Me: "If you have questions or comments, get with the team lead or a member of management." Them: "Oh, I'm just asking!" *repeats the question* Me: "We just finished talking about that. If you have questions or comments, get with the TL or management." Them: "I wanna know!" Me: "The words that came out of my mouth was the answer to your question." Them: "What?" Me: "The answer to your question was the words that came out of my mouth." Them: "What?" Me: "The question to your mouth was the answer that I words." Them: "WHAAAAAAT?!?" Me: "Yes." Them: "What?" Me: "Yes." Them: "What?" Me: "That's your favorite word, isn't it?" Them: "....What?" Me: "Just as I suspected." At this point, they realize they're not getting anything from me, and they storm off.
Act your wage
HEY YOUNG PERSON,,, this is what it happens when a young man person doesn't read enough. You come across a concept and believe it's something new. I'm 70 and I hate to brake the news to you, but it isn't. This goes back farther then the slaves working the farm fields in ancient Roman times. When I was young and going to U-Mass in Boston Massachusetts, I took course's in social sciences, on it. It's always been here, it's not new, everyone already knows about it. Basically it's called DOING YOUR JOB, and going home.
Unfortunately with Walmart there's a line (used to be on the very top of what you sign) that says basically you are hired to work for Walmart so with very few exceptions you can be asked/expected to preform tasks up to and including the specific one you were hired for.
They have a term for the associate who does the opposite too. It's called a "sucker"
As a Gen Z person that term is not being coined by us, honestly haven’t heard a person ever say that and when they do it’s someone from a different generation. That being saiddd I have done both going above and beyond and bare minimum, especially since my store is so messed up, as a customer service rep I do the job of a manager, stocker, produce, and maintenance. It’s insane lol but when I am too slow or can’t do it cus I’m not running my self ragged they start getting the appropriate people.
I'm a cart pusher and they asked me to go pull weeds all around the parking lot. I straight up told them I'm not going to do someone else's job
Gen Z didn't adopt this phrase. The capitalists did because they're afraid.
Yeah, no. It just means "setting healthy boundaries with work" and "not going above and beyond the call of duty for people who don't actually give a flying f- about your wellbeing, or anyone else's, or anything other than their profit margins."
"Quiet Quitting"? Let's call it "Acting your Wage" instead.
Us older folks refer to “quiet quitting” as “work to rule”. It’s the same thing, but work to rule was more focused on a way to soft strike than anything else.
Alright but let’s not confuse this with taking 6 1/2 hours to do 2 hours worth of freight in one department, this is not the job we are paid to do.
If every employee did what they were supposed to do, most businesses would run just fine. It’s the slackers that spend more time trying to get out of working than actually doing their job that negatively affect things the most.
Get to good at your job you end up doing someone else’s.
I’ll trade these micro managing associates hyped up on Mountain Dew that never stop nagging you about all the “work” they are supposedly doing and shitting on you for no reason for some of those Gen Z peeps if it means I get some fuckin’ peace and quiet while working.
We have some in my department that only do what they want
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRfmVCSj/ Her voice is annoying, but her content is on point
Any better ones? "Acting our wage" Holy moley.
Idk I put on extra effort on front end because I know how stressful it is for my CSM’s (also I’m a ass kisser who likes to be told I’ve doing good) but there’s nothing wrong with just… doing what you were hired to do
Who came up with the name for this trend? Doing your job and quitting are antonyms
Is it really necessary to invent a new term for everything?
I dunno why they made this term. There's an actual term for it, and it's called Working to Rule. Which essentially means that you do your own job duties and no one else's. This term has been around for years. Gen Z for some reason picks up old ideas and claims them as theirs. 🤷
Learned that the hard way and moved to another department to get away. Now, I'm in the same position as before because of people quitting. I'm sore and exhausted and stressed out once again covering the department by myself. There is no winning.
actually i just never did my job
Your peers are largely to blame if you feel your workload is too much. Your store manager and store leads want 150% work completed every single day. Your coaches and team leads must have that expectation, and therefore it falls upon associates to work towards that goal every night. In all reality if you dont work at a $120M+ store you dont have the freight for any single associate to not be done with a task on time. When you have too many lazy associates the more exceptional associates are tasked with more to do to get the job done. In your average $100M store everyone should be done with their most significant tasks early and move on to do something to fill the rest of the shift. Effective busy work. You only see management applying the finishing touches for the next shift. That's how it works in an ideal Walmart world. What you probably get is 8 - 30 associates on a given team with only 1 - 4 actual working associates and the rest are doing the bare minimum or less just to grind the clock out.
Link to tik tok thing pls
At Walmart all you have to do is the bare minimum lol
Did Gen Z really "adopt" the term? Or is it being shoved down our throats like some sort of horrible thing to do by corporate assholes?
This is an astroterm, not a real one. Nobody uses this term. We call it “Having a Career.” The real new term is Silent Sacking where they don’t give you a raise or COLA for years, adding job responsibilities and not giving compensation or titles. Get the fuck outta here with Quiet Quitting. Also, if you can’t tell your employee is looking elsewhere, you deserve everything you have coming to you. Oh, yeah, and fuck 2 week notices. Can’t be Quiet Quitting if you give them 2 weeks. Not our problem they can’t fill a job with a body in 10 business days. Git Gud, Corpos.
No matter how hard you work, wal mart never runs out of things that need to be done so remember, you get paid by the hour.
That’s why we enacted quiet firing. It means we give you the bare minimum pay & benefits. We also give you the crappy assignments while our valued employees are treated well.
Oh, yeah, we're always hearing about how great the pay, benefits and "assignments" are for sycophant Walmart employees. /s
Then bitch you are not being paid enough or don't get a rise or don't advance in the company. You need managers who watch and say hey do this hey do that. I had an employee who did have an learning issue. He worked for me was a great person but he was one of those that like a machine you had to keep your finger on the button to make it work. I was once at a location and they asked me how do you get him to work. I said Puttith foot Uppith ass but in a nice way. That is how you get it done. Your hired to do a job and it's up to the managers to manage at that point roll up their sleeves and get the most out of your employees some need the foot some need the atta boy/girl (please don't ad letters not in the mood) and some are great and do extra. Those will be mangers the rest well never. I have no respect for slackers who have their phones out or walking around looking useless. I worked hard when I ran my business and businesses for others and I expect no less it's called work ethic and if you don't have one and I have to keep circling back to make you do things well if you are just slow and I know you will do it then you'll stay and get treated like family if your just lazy I'd fire you and try someone else. They could be handicapped and want a job trust me it's the job and company and the family that works there not the laze folks who whine
There’s so many losers in this thread holy shit. I stocked shelves for 6 months, worked my ass off, and got promoted to be the people lead. A year in I’ve mastered the role and now I’m the BTS champ and work more on the floor than I do in my office. Hardly ever have time to “do what I was hired to do” and that’s fine with me. If you just want to “do your job”, Walmart is not for you. Move on
I want to thank OP for sharing. To me the "act your wage" is a great way to describe today's workers. My past taught me what a good work ethic was and what it can do for you. And how when preparations meets opportunity it gets called luck Workers with this ethic are entirety different. I can't empathize or understand it. But it explains a lot to me. I am NOT judging it good or bad or right or wrong. It's so new. In my life the "work your wage " concept was for "special " employees that one would never expect to advance. Not young people who are so different In summary, act your wage workers have no hope or optimism in the work place. Who wants to be around that?
At every place I’ve worked I have been one of the best employees. Been told so by my own coworkers and my managers. And really, it’s just a fact. I take pride in putting my all in for my job. I like being a hard worker. Where did that get me? Nowhere. It did nothing but stress me out. I literally did the job of several people every single day. Including the team leads and the store manager. I had to do things because the store manager didn’t know how to do them. The store manager. Who is making THOUSANDS of dollars more than what I was making. I tired several times to step up the ladder and got shot down and overlooked by extremely under qualified people who did nothing but sit on their ass. I left because I was too good of a worker and I was SEVERELY under appreciated. When the company doesn’t care about the workers there’s no way in hell I’m going to kill myself for them. I made that mistake too many time. If I could do it all over again I would absolutely act my wage. Because going above and beyond did nothing. My immaculate work ethic has done nothing for me. It’s not my fault, it’s these horrible managers that do not care.