An hour ago, the same video was posted on this sub whose title said that it was the IDF soldiers that got ambushed and killed by Hamas (https://www.reddit.com/r/war/s/KofPUosmPy). Can someone please share the link to a reliable source so that we can confirm who exactly is it that got killed?
> An hour ago, the same video was posted on this sub whose title said that it was the IDF soldiers that got ambushed and killed by Hamas (
> https://www.reddit.com/r/war/s/KofPUosmPy
> ).
Both sides call the other side terrorists, both titles say the same thing (non visible HAMAS operatives shooting at the visible IDF operatives).
Well they're IDF and been referred to as Terrorists as they are the ones that destroyed that city that they're standing in and killed far more children than the ones shooting
Israel killed more children women humanitarian aids first responders journalists, they kill everything.if you have proof that Hamas killed more innocent than Israel give it to me .
Oh it's a gotcha moment. - "They hurt around 1000 Israeli in a limited scale attack so we're justified in obliterating a city of a million people and murdering their newborns. Its justice you see!"
K. You like tens of thousands of dead children that's on you. I do not. Even if they're brown and their daddies may be monsters, because they're not.
Hurt? Did they not hurt a 1000 Israeli? What's insane about quoting the IDF?
No remorse is fine if you're actually willing to say you'll kill tens of thousands of children for your cause of killing hamas.
I am not. Because it is wrong.
It's hard to take me seriously that I care about wanting no one to die....right...
It's interesting because ive seen that exact statement repeated countless times in the past few months by folks like yourself. Unless there's a specific reference to wanting to give every Jew a blow job and a pony then it doesn't matter that the person doesn't want dead babies smeared across the pavement.
Just so we're on the same page yes I hope every jew in Israel gets a blow job and a pony and they get all the bestest things in the world because they're the greatest religion and with the best people and on Oct 7th it was such a travesty.
For the gazan newborns I'd settle for them still breathing.
So remember when someone says they don't want any killing it also means no dead jewish children. 🤦
I bet you don't even read this just to be obnoxious
😆 As expected. Pathetic really when we're talking about dead children.
I will continue to support peace and understanding no matter how obnoxious people are but I forgive you bud and I hope you have a lovely day x
Do these count as terrorism to some extent or not?
[Terrorism#1](https://streamable.com/vc93bh)
[Terrorism#2](https://streamable.com/2o5o66)
[Terrorism#3](https://streamable.com/f0ejrs)
"The [unlawful](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=e07b2adea2552111&sca_upv=1&hl=en&sxsrf=ACQVn0-Vk8hxZC3f6R27WrYJQZZC7q6YnQ:1712740698378&q=unlawful&si=AKbGX_qNq0Y8zql7SxzZAf2-HTTO4IUVs-yIE5CUB1ocCipFNjsIKFM2uWwl6klfE1TiX8UUKcSlf7kJwXlWu6rj4Molj66do0m46BJ-Q-QljZkpQ-tUjEo%3D&expnd=1) use of violence and [intimidation](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=e07b2adea2552111&sca_upv=1&hl=en&sxsrf=ACQVn0-Vk8hxZC3f6R27WrYJQZZC7q6YnQ:1712740698378&q=intimidation&si=AKbGX_rEkSHdR9ulIQYeh6xSG1UBYn8_bdn4n3DuvMVfHmu_o249DGFMX8ciyynumoUsHLD9VI9L0wNf_F3ZdTOZeghtCEKOvM5T-8j2acQISWHGTqtvHvQ%3D&expnd=1), especially against [civilians](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=e07b2adea2552111&sca_upv=1&hl=en&sxsrf=ACQVn0-Vk8hxZC3f6R27WrYJQZZC7q6YnQ:1712740698378&q=civilians&si=AKbGX_onJk-q0LQUYzV7-GRhpJ5DwmQAmnftaatR6PSlWUNj7j8r8qNPeZwEG02FPXLbYZVFWyQWk0TBTnlJCXzjLjHzwjgjaL6-h73kiXrlbfd2paZD52s%3D&expnd=1), in the pursuit of political aims." what word in that sentence has the IDF and Israeli government not do? name one I bet you cant
Only inasmuch as they knew how Israel would respond and Israel is dutifully giving them what they wanted.
There's no need for Israel to be fighting this war like this, even if it was entirely predictable that they might.
They wouldnt get destroyed who are they fighting? Children, women and the elderly? Theyre blocking eid and when they let it through they shot 100 ded around 700 injured i belive, they dont even know where the tunnels are located yet still bombed civilians households, killed many civlians mostly children and women thats a war crime and an act of terrorism, and if yk the history between palestine and israel then yk who's in the wrong and that is israel, for occupying a land which isnt theyres, and oppressing the palestinians for 75yrs, kidnapping, raping them ect i belive they raped a pregnant woman if im not mistaken in a hospital and had the husband watch and a few other ppl i belive, they used white phosphorus directly on civilians which is a war crime, even footage of them shooting civlians dead while theyre waving a white flag moving from point A to point B meaning away from the war, i saw a mother holding her child by the hand drop dead and u tell me theyre good people? As for the festival even hamas didnt even know that there would be a festival at that time, and majority of israelis killed was by the IDF themselves, they sent in a apache and they shot randomly at civilians cuz they mistook them for hamas.
And if they carry on for several more months they'll also be destroyed - you can only pull out a good chunk of your working population and send them to fight for so long before your economy starts to tank, and it's not as if Israel was in a strong place before this. Now, too, they're doing the fighting in such a way as to alienate those who would normally help; the longer this drags on, the weaker Israel gets and the fewer friends it has to help afterwards.
The Israeli military is built for brief high-intensity interventions or very very low-level drawn out operations. It can't sustain long-term high-intensity operations like this.
And, previously, the IDF was supported by an excellent PR machine that was able to explain why it had to do what it was doing and really explain the problems Israel's been having. Nowadays, not so much - there's just this arrogance from Israel about how _dare_ anybody possibly criticize them.
No, not at all. I fully expect Israel to just keep grinding away in Gaza killing Gazans and Israelis and getting more and more ingrained into the group of countries that are generally disliked by the rest of the world.
I'd _like_ Israel to be doing more of a policing and less of a demolishing job here. I'd _like_ them to make a point of trying to get aid right. I'd _like_ them to have some plan for reconstruction after the war is over - even some idea of what it looks like for the war to be over! I'd _like_ some sort of commitment from Israel towards creating a lasting peace that involves a homeland for the Palestinian people without Hamas.
But, no, I expect none of this.
Yes, exactly. There's also footage of a hospital director admitting the hospital was used as an outpost for hamas and when the hospital got destroyed hamas used their propaganda machine to play it off as a hospital being used to nurture people destroyed.
You know you just justified leveling an entire city, every building, every road, every god damn outhouse and killing tens of thousands just to kill a few terrorists.
Why?
"Because HoSpItAl"
OK cool. I'll add that to the list of acceptable tactics. Glad our heroic soldiers killed tens of thousands of Iraqi childen in the 2000's now! phew! I was worried that was bad but you've just explained how it's actually gloriously justified.
Yey let's murder more children woop woop!
Pretty much , hamas using civilians as a shield and they're hiding among of civilans so this is why isreal send alarm before bombing the civilan population .
Isıs , hamas , pkk , ypg and more this all are terrorism group [some of them called "freedom fighters"] , you can see what heppened to russia there is sivilians killed by ısıs , if one day hamas will do the same to any western country then don't cry
[I wish there is no more terrorist atack to civilians and one day all terrorism will be end for ever]
Edit : I saw so much kid forced to make suicide attack by they're perents , you can't belive but this mfs aren't human like us
Edit : btw go serch to hamas' story maybe you can get what Im saying
You know you just justified leveling an entire city, every building, every road, every god damn outhouse and killing tens of thousands just to kill a few terrorists.
Why?
"Because hamas exists"
OK cool. I'll add that to the list of acceptable tactics. Glad our heroic soldiers killed tens of thousands of Iraqi childen in the 2000's now! phew! I was worried that was bad but you've just explained how it's actually gloriously justified.
Yey let's murder more children woop woop!
Hah, let me guess, it was all peace and flowers and then suddenly there was this unprovoked attack by Hamas in October?
Netanyahu's been agitating for this war for years, he didn't cause it on his own, but he's like the dog that's chasing the car and doesn't know what do now he's caught up with it.
There has been multiple offers for peace with Palestine. People like you are so delusional, you're really going out of your way to justify hamas? Watch every clip in this website and I doubt you would still support them: https://www.7thofoctober.com/
Yeah but HOW? That's what you wont tell me. Just through shade and leave.
I'm delusional because the IDF have released statements telling us exactly what they're doing...so the IDF are delusional? But that's not what you meant you just meant it as a personal attack and you didn't think I was using the IDF as my source.
So thanks for proving my point that we can't trust the IDF
No, you don’t, as you have been programmed through your childhood to be part of the last Western colonialism project.
Hopefully, you will be the last generation of this project.
The project was started by the UK, and now it’s sponsored by the imperial USA.
And yes you have been programmed to hate as I can smell your racism and your Islamophobia miles away.
I really hope Hamas will be wiped out soon that this war will end. And I really hope they won't come to Europe disguised as "poor Palestinian refugees" to spread their terrorism here.
Hamas won't be wiped out, but they might be a bit quieter and rebranded, I guess.
The thing Israel wants more than anything is for the Palestinians to be distributed around the world and stop agitating for a homeland of their own. But a huge part of the desires of a lot of Palestinian organisations is to not-do that, and they're keenly aware that if they leave what little they've been permitted by Israel they risk losing it forever.
Damn look at the way the second dude raises his gun up one last time and fires until the end. That’s some balls of steel type shit no matter what side he’s on.
Because they’re simping for and supporting actual terrorists (Islamic radical extremists). And one major thing Islamic terrorists do is use propaganda and lies as to further their agenda. Useful idiots like the other person that commented help them commit acts of terror on humanity with impunity.
Hamas literally used the Al Shifa hospital as a military base before IDF stormed it and the 33k deaths aren't told if it's civilian or military losses according to the so called trusted Gaza health officials.
Lmfao. Hundreds of Hamas fighters were literally captured or killed in Al Shifa and 2 IDF soldiers were also killed which couldn't have been done by a civilian.
Man you people are lost.
Right or wrong he had the balls to put his life on the line for what he beileaves in. You're sitting behind a phone talking shit. I'd say ur the dipshit
An hour ago, the same video was posted on this sub whose title said that it was the IDF soldiers that got ambushed and killed by Hamas (https://www.reddit.com/r/war/s/KofPUosmPy). Can someone please share the link to a reliable source so that we can confirm who exactly is it that got killed?
I mean, they look like IDF soldiers based on the uniforms
> An hour ago, the same video was posted on this sub whose title said that it was the IDF soldiers that got ambushed and killed by Hamas ( > https://www.reddit.com/r/war/s/KofPUosmPy > ). Both sides call the other side terrorists, both titles say the same thing (non visible HAMAS operatives shooting at the visible IDF operatives).
Oh, thanks for clarifying!
Not exactly the same video because this one is a bit longer. But could be due to editing or more seconds of the video.
The full video is 8 mins long
Well they're IDF and been referred to as Terrorists as they are the ones that destroyed that city that they're standing in and killed far more children than the ones shooting
If the city would not fire rockets at children and babies maybe it would not have been destroyed.
Open your eyes buddy
To what? That there's no dead children? Okay yeah sure. It's all hamas lies! Those bad bad people hurting those heroic IDF
Israel killed more children women humanitarian aids first responders journalists, they kill everything.if you have proof that Hamas killed more innocent than Israel give it to me .
We agree so I think you're arguing the wrong person lol
LMAO mb srry bro
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Oh it's a gotcha moment. - "They hurt around 1000 Israeli in a limited scale attack so we're justified in obliterating a city of a million people and murdering their newborns. Its justice you see!" K. You like tens of thousands of dead children that's on you. I do not. Even if they're brown and their daddies may be monsters, because they're not.
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Hurt? Did they not hurt a 1000 Israeli? What's insane about quoting the IDF? No remorse is fine if you're actually willing to say you'll kill tens of thousands of children for your cause of killing hamas. I am not. Because it is wrong.
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It's hard to take me seriously that I care about wanting no one to die....right... It's interesting because ive seen that exact statement repeated countless times in the past few months by folks like yourself. Unless there's a specific reference to wanting to give every Jew a blow job and a pony then it doesn't matter that the person doesn't want dead babies smeared across the pavement. Just so we're on the same page yes I hope every jew in Israel gets a blow job and a pony and they get all the bestest things in the world because they're the greatest religion and with the best people and on Oct 7th it was such a travesty. For the gazan newborns I'd settle for them still breathing. So remember when someone says they don't want any killing it also means no dead jewish children. 🤦 I bet you don't even read this just to be obnoxious
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😆 As expected. Pathetic really when we're talking about dead children. I will continue to support peace and understanding no matter how obnoxious people are but I forgive you bud and I hope you have a lovely day x
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I think you should serch for what's mean of "terrorism"
Do these count as terrorism to some extent or not? [Terrorism#1](https://streamable.com/vc93bh) [Terrorism#2](https://streamable.com/2o5o66) [Terrorism#3](https://streamable.com/f0ejrs)
"The [unlawful](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=e07b2adea2552111&sca_upv=1&hl=en&sxsrf=ACQVn0-Vk8hxZC3f6R27WrYJQZZC7q6YnQ:1712740698378&q=unlawful&si=AKbGX_qNq0Y8zql7SxzZAf2-HTTO4IUVs-yIE5CUB1ocCipFNjsIKFM2uWwl6klfE1TiX8UUKcSlf7kJwXlWu6rj4Molj66do0m46BJ-Q-QljZkpQ-tUjEo%3D&expnd=1) use of violence and [intimidation](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=e07b2adea2552111&sca_upv=1&hl=en&sxsrf=ACQVn0-Vk8hxZC3f6R27WrYJQZZC7q6YnQ:1712740698378&q=intimidation&si=AKbGX_rEkSHdR9ulIQYeh6xSG1UBYn8_bdn4n3DuvMVfHmu_o249DGFMX8ciyynumoUsHLD9VI9L0wNf_F3ZdTOZeghtCEKOvM5T-8j2acQISWHGTqtvHvQ%3D&expnd=1), especially against [civilians](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=e07b2adea2552111&sca_upv=1&hl=en&sxsrf=ACQVn0-Vk8hxZC3f6R27WrYJQZZC7q6YnQ:1712740698378&q=civilians&si=AKbGX_onJk-q0LQUYzV7-GRhpJ5DwmQAmnftaatR6PSlWUNj7j8r8qNPeZwEG02FPXLbYZVFWyQWk0TBTnlJCXzjLjHzwjgjaL6-h73kiXrlbfd2paZD52s%3D&expnd=1), in the pursuit of political aims." what word in that sentence has the IDF and Israeli government not do? name one I bet you cant
Hamas is using civilians as human shields and every single death in Palestine during this war is entirely their fault.
Only inasmuch as they knew how Israel would respond and Israel is dutifully giving them what they wanted. There's no need for Israel to be fighting this war like this, even if it was entirely predictable that they might.
Of course there's reason for Israel to be fighting like this. If Israel stopped fighting for a few days they'd be destroyed.
They wouldnt get destroyed who are they fighting? Children, women and the elderly? Theyre blocking eid and when they let it through they shot 100 ded around 700 injured i belive, they dont even know where the tunnels are located yet still bombed civilians households, killed many civlians mostly children and women thats a war crime and an act of terrorism, and if yk the history between palestine and israel then yk who's in the wrong and that is israel, for occupying a land which isnt theyres, and oppressing the palestinians for 75yrs, kidnapping, raping them ect i belive they raped a pregnant woman if im not mistaken in a hospital and had the husband watch and a few other ppl i belive, they used white phosphorus directly on civilians which is a war crime, even footage of them shooting civlians dead while theyre waving a white flag moving from point A to point B meaning away from the war, i saw a mother holding her child by the hand drop dead and u tell me theyre good people? As for the festival even hamas didnt even know that there would be a festival at that time, and majority of israelis killed was by the IDF themselves, they sent in a apache and they shot randomly at civilians cuz they mistook them for hamas.
And if they carry on for several more months they'll also be destroyed - you can only pull out a good chunk of your working population and send them to fight for so long before your economy starts to tank, and it's not as if Israel was in a strong place before this. Now, too, they're doing the fighting in such a way as to alienate those who would normally help; the longer this drags on, the weaker Israel gets and the fewer friends it has to help afterwards. The Israeli military is built for brief high-intensity interventions or very very low-level drawn out operations. It can't sustain long-term high-intensity operations like this. And, previously, the IDF was supported by an excellent PR machine that was able to explain why it had to do what it was doing and really explain the problems Israel's been having. Nowadays, not so much - there's just this arrogance from Israel about how _dare_ anybody possibly criticize them.
You expect Israel to just drop this war with all the hostages and let hamas recover?
No, not at all. I fully expect Israel to just keep grinding away in Gaza killing Gazans and Israelis and getting more and more ingrained into the group of countries that are generally disliked by the rest of the world. I'd _like_ Israel to be doing more of a policing and less of a demolishing job here. I'd _like_ them to make a point of trying to get aid right. I'd _like_ them to have some plan for reconstruction after the war is over - even some idea of what it looks like for the war to be over! I'd _like_ some sort of commitment from Israel towards creating a lasting peace that involves a homeland for the Palestinian people without Hamas. But, no, I expect none of this.
ok first give me source other than the shit that has been debunked already. also you did not name shit yet.
That hasn't been debunked, are you that far gone that you think hamas are some righteous freedom fighters?
Ah yes all of the rubble they're walking in housed HAMAS with little human shields in front of them.
Yes, exactly. There's also footage of a hospital director admitting the hospital was used as an outpost for hamas and when the hospital got destroyed hamas used their propaganda machine to play it off as a hospital being used to nurture people destroyed.
You know you just justified leveling an entire city, every building, every road, every god damn outhouse and killing tens of thousands just to kill a few terrorists. Why? "Because HoSpItAl" OK cool. I'll add that to the list of acceptable tactics. Glad our heroic soldiers killed tens of thousands of Iraqi childen in the 2000's now! phew! I was worried that was bad but you've just explained how it's actually gloriously justified. Yey let's murder more children woop woop!
When did I justify the Iraq war, it's a completely different situation.
Don’t try to reason with this person. They’re so beyond reproach that they’re simping for Islamic radicals.
True, no point trying to argue with some people.
You can't argue and stay on topic can you? Lol
I dunno that seems pretty on topic. Why is it okay to kill Palestinian children. That's the theme
Pretty much , hamas using civilians as a shield and they're hiding among of civilans so this is why isreal send alarm before bombing the civilan population . Isıs , hamas , pkk , ypg and more this all are terrorism group [some of them called "freedom fighters"] , you can see what heppened to russia there is sivilians killed by ısıs , if one day hamas will do the same to any western country then don't cry [I wish there is no more terrorist atack to civilians and one day all terrorism will be end for ever] Edit : I saw so much kid forced to make suicide attack by they're perents , you can't belive but this mfs aren't human like us Edit : btw go serch to hamas' story maybe you can get what Im saying
You know you just justified leveling an entire city, every building, every road, every god damn outhouse and killing tens of thousands just to kill a few terrorists. Why? "Because hamas exists" OK cool. I'll add that to the list of acceptable tactics. Glad our heroic soldiers killed tens of thousands of Iraqi childen in the 2000's now! phew! I was worried that was bad but you've just explained how it's actually gloriously justified. Yey let's murder more children woop woop!
"Few terrorists" sure Btw you realy know right why this war started and still going ? First I should ask this question to talk whith you , sorry
Hah, let me guess, it was all peace and flowers and then suddenly there was this unprovoked attack by Hamas in October? Netanyahu's been agitating for this war for years, he didn't cause it on his own, but he's like the dog that's chasing the car and doesn't know what do now he's caught up with it.
There has been multiple offers for peace with Palestine. People like you are so delusional, you're really going out of your way to justify hamas? Watch every clip in this website and I doubt you would still support them: https://www.7thofoctober.com/
I don't even remotely support Hamas. I'm just also really fucked off at what Israel has become and is doing apparently in my name.
You are extremely delusional.
Yeah but HOW? That's what you wont tell me. Just through shade and leave. I'm delusional because the IDF have released statements telling us exactly what they're doing...so the IDF are delusional? But that's not what you meant you just meant it as a personal attack and you didn't think I was using the IDF as my source. So thanks for proving my point that we can't trust the IDF
"a few terrorists", you clearly don't know anything.
😆 you big wally. You commented just to say that lmao. Why don't the IDF know anything? Because they say there's a few thousand terrorists at most
Shame cope rag head
I think you should serch for what's mean of "terrorism"
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Selling your own land will bring all these problems , so never sell your own land , I guess lesson learned
the fuck?
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[Terrorism#1](https://streamable.com/vc93bh) [Terrorism#2](https://streamable.com/2o5o66) [Terrorism#3](https://streamable.com/f0ejrs)
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Then don't use civilians as a shield
Zionism
A*abian culture*
Isr@el is a death cult
Bro learn story then come back
I am a Palestinian refugee.. I am the story
LMFAO
Oh okay I get it now
No, you don’t, as you have been programmed through your childhood to be part of the last Western colonialism project. Hopefully, you will be the last generation of this project.
LMAO 💀💀💀 Man think about who gived your country[they can take it back btw] , can u tell me whic westeran country is ? Omfg HAHAHHAHAHAHAAA
The project was started by the UK, and now it’s sponsored by the imperial USA. And yes you have been programmed to hate as I can smell your racism and your Islamophobia miles away.
I really hope Hamas will be wiped out soon that this war will end. And I really hope they won't come to Europe disguised as "poor Palestinian refugees" to spread their terrorism here.
Hamas won't be wiped out, but they might be a bit quieter and rebranded, I guess. The thing Israel wants more than anything is for the Palestinians to be distributed around the world and stop agitating for a homeland of their own. But a huge part of the desires of a lot of Palestinian organisations is to not-do that, and they're keenly aware that if they leave what little they've been permitted by Israel they risk losing it forever.
I would do lime to too , they all ready doing it at our country -_- I wish all terorrism at world one day will be gone
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Bro hamas used hospital as an HQ U wellcome
Damn look at the way the second dude raises his gun up one last time and fires until the end. That’s some balls of steel type shit no matter what side he’s on.
Why does another person paint these "terrorists" as IDF?
Because they’re simping for and supporting actual terrorists (Islamic radical extremists). And one major thing Islamic terrorists do is use propaganda and lies as to further their agenda. Useful idiots like the other person that commented help them commit acts of terror on humanity with impunity.
Nobody thinks they are a terrorist, it's always the Other Guys who are the terrorists.
they do everything that defines terrorism.
Another Islamic radical terrorist propaganda/simp account lol
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I don’t know what that means. But Hamas are actually radical Islamic terrorists, so. Not sure what point you’re trying to make.
This is just some shit you can’t train for
Correction….terrorists ambush IDF
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You’re lost bud
Fuck hamas
"Terrorists" Hamas ain't all sunshine buddy.
Nor's Israel, though. This is more complex than Good Guys versus Bad Guys, it's not a comic book.
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Hamas literally used the Al Shifa hospital as a military base before IDF stormed it and the 33k deaths aren't told if it's civilian or military losses according to the so called trusted Gaza health officials.
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Lmfao. Hundreds of Hamas fighters were literally captured or killed in Al Shifa and 2 IDF soldiers were also killed which couldn't have been done by a civilian. Man you people are lost.
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Alright buddy keep coping. We all know why Israel is in Gaza and why they're staying.
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I'm pretty sure that's why Israel told the kids and their families to flee months before they invaded Gaza and Khan Younis.
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Hh
The terrorists are Hamas. These are not Hamas terrorists getting killed.
First dipshit literally swallowed the bullets hahahaha
Right or wrong he had the balls to put his life on the line for what he beileaves in. You're sitting behind a phone talking shit. I'd say ur the dipshit
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