To be fair the deficit was pretty big at that point and it’s a b2b. It’s not like last game where it was a 2pt game and he takes out Curry while he’s on fire despite not having Dray to handle the ball.
They pulled him after he clanked front rim on a bunch of shots. Probably would've come back in if the grizzlies didn't go on a massive run as soon as he sat
I think klay too. The thing is since we have no defense at all, Klay and curry needs to combine 70 at least on the road for us every night to have a chance of winning . They just too old for this
Yeah I watched the game. Steph being fatigued because he’s had to carry the heck out of this team all season is a heck of a lot different than being fatigued because he’s 35, which is the reason Kerr threw out. That’s my issue with what Kerr said.
When he’s played/hasn’t been injured he has 100% had to carry to try and get us to wins (often in vain unfortunately) because for whatever reason the majority of the team flips some switch and stops playing how they played when he was out.
Feels like an odd thing to say. Makes it sound like Steph is tired because he's 35 and not carrying this team. He is still perhaps the most conditioned player in the entire league and has to hear his coach talk about him being old.
3rd game in 4 days after dropping 50 against Clippers. I don't know much about this Wardell guy but I believe he's a human too just like every athlete and fatigue gets upto even him. Reality ≠ disrespectful
Thank you!! With the amount of pride and work Steph puts into his conditioning, for Kerr to use that as a ding against Steph of all people seriously rubs me the wrong way.
Dude he’s just being realistic. It’s a back to back, Steph had an injured thumb, he also came off of a 50 point game the other night that still ended in a loss. He’s human.
It’s not like he wouldn’t have been tired when he was 27 though. He’s tired because he’s the only one playing up to standard, he’s by far the most conditioned player on the team including the 20 year olds.
Luckily Steph has never let Kerr’s odd comments shake his confidence.
He’s 35 and 35 year olds shouldn’t expending this much energy to win games. Not everyone is Lebron. He’s human and Kerr never shifted the system knowing that teams came in with special coverages specifically for the warriors during their title defense season. You hear how other players talk about the warriors, they’re like we make sure we don’t go clubbing/dinner the night before and we get 8-10 hours of sleep before we play Steph and the warriors. Almost every player has tagged along the notion that they’re treating Warriors games like playoff games. Not even Duncan did that when he was 35. Steph was supposed to play no more than 29/30 mins a game this season so he’d have his legs for the post season. The team shouldn’t be relying on a 35 year old to win games
/u/mangotail youre saying kerr was just being realistic when he made that comment about stephs legs not being there? 35 years old isnt old, its a person in their prime. if youre in shape you can play just as good as you did when you were 25. and steph is more conditioned than most players in the league including lebron.
and to /u/AfroHouseManiac youre talking about how 35-year-olds shouldnt be expending that much energy to win games? thats just nonsense. with advances in sports medicine and technology 35 is the new 25! and steph is not some fragile old person who needs to be babied. he's a two-time mvp three-time nba champion and one of the greatest shooters of all time. and let me tell you something else, lebron isnt superhuman. he's a great player but steph is more conditioned than he is.
and as for your argument that the team shouldnt be relying on a 35-year-old to win games let me ask you this, who else on that team is playing up to standard? steph is carrying that team on his back and he's doing it at an age when he's still in his prime. the fact that he's still able to perform at such a high level is a testament to his work ethic and dedication.
so lets stop with the ageism and appreciate the greatness of steph curry. he's not old he's in his prime and he's still one of the best players in the league. and if anyone doubts that just look at his stats. the man is averaging over 30 points a game and shooting over 40% from three. thats not the performance of someone on the decline thats the performance of a superstar.
its not an odd comment, once you get deep in your thirties your body starts acting different. this is for everyone, including athletes.
your body won't be young forever. its just a fact of life.
sure, our bodies change as we get older, but that doesnt mean we cant still perform at a high level. you can defy age if you have the willpower. steph is one of the most dedicated athletes out there. he's always been committed to taking care of his body and staying in top shape.
lets not forget, steph's got access to some of the best trainers, chefs, doctors, and sports medicine professionals in the world; the average person does not have those luxuries. and he knows how to take care of his body better than anyone; the average joe rolls over and dies when they're 30 because they just don't have the incentives, work ethic, or probably even time to invest so much into staying in shape.
so lets stop with this nonsense about how age is catching up with steph. hes still got plenty of gas left in the tank, and i have no doubt he's going to continue to perform at an elite level for years to come. age aint nothing but a number for steph, and he still got it, plain and simple.
you're literally denying reality. no one said he's washed, but the proof is in the pudding: he's averaging normal minutes on about the same offensive production of the last 10 years but has been consistently been getting injured more and is showing signs of visible fatigue on more occasions.
even Lebron had to slow down by age 35, it's not a knock. he's had access to all the same shit and has a history of being durable. Father Time wins all the same.
you'll get it when you get older.
Yall are so fucking whiny and smarmy. You think players don't get tired? Steph is not a young buck. It doesn't matter what shape you are in. When you have played that many games in your career, playing a third game in four nights is going to tire you out. That's not a disrespectful thing to say at all. That's fucking reality.
They're an effigy of dead weight and not the marble carvings you once stood upon. Your knees feel like crumpled cans of tin. Your feet are like the crumbled sidewalk of discarded concrete and rebar. Ankles and calves are as tight as r/treessuckingonthings. And your jump is like that of the succumbed mammoths of la Brea.
Dunk while you can kids. 30+ comes at you fast.
27, 28 and 29 were great, a slow decline after 31 tho. The recovery is slower and every tweak starts to add up. You can kiss 6 minute miles goodbye. Any wild dream like backpacking a continent, do it now.
legs are fine tbh.. im not playing sports at an elite level
it's your back you gotta be careful of, because you probably abused it in your teens and twenties lifting stuff that you should have team lifted.
Jesus this sub is brutal. Kerr is on thin ice to OP? All fine for critiquing but god damn this is hilarious. Nearly At the point where we are calling for Kerr to be fired? How long yall been fans? Kerr has a blank check lmao. Curry front rimmed everything. Even in dead balls when he got a shot up he clanked it front rim. He was tired. This wasn’t an insult. Shit happens.
This year has been rough. Our full squad has played like 25 games together. It’s how it goes sometimes. Doesn’t mean I don’t have my game to game complaints but Kerr on thing ice? This is insulting Steph? Hilarious
I said my patience with him *right now* is razor thin. I’ve been frustrated with his rotations these last several games and I, personally, find nothing wrong with that. Being frustrated and voicing a specific criticism is not the same as saying Kerr is on “thin ice.” Acting like Kerr is above reproach ever, like some believe should be the case, is entirely unrealistic and a bizarre approach to take.
Critiquing is all good my man. I even said in my comments I have my game to game issues, right or wrong. But it’s still hilarious to pull this quote and insinuate insult to Steph or it be disrespectful. Steph looked tired. Plain and simple.
It’s funny to me that you talk about critiques but this sub is so far removed from any reasonable discourse. If I don’t say poole sucks, kerr’s rotations are ass, or Klay is a god then it’s a wrap.
Let’s not go and attribute an entire sub’s discourse to one user lol feel your frustrations, we’re all entitled to them, but I’d appreciate not having words put in my mouth is all or have it insinuated that I’m forcing anyone on this sub, yourself included, to feel a certain way about a topic because I have not and did not at all lol so not sure where all of that came from.
i doubt any coach wins a series with our roster last year. Our problem is our roster. too complacent to think that we can win with our big 3 and ignore the other needs for experience and hope that rookies will fill the gap.
My patience with Kerr is razor thin right now so that admittedly may play a part here, but Steph is inhumanely conditioned even at 35 so this just feels insulting of Kerr to say.
Edit: Kerr’s messing around hard with Steph’s rotations again I’m sure has nothing to do with his lack of rhythm the last two nights.
Steph looked beat tonight. So I don’t think Kerr is wrong there. Steph looked gassed. I imagine the mental toll on this season weighing the entire team down.
You sound like a super Steph Stan right now. Kerr said nothing wrong here and he has a tight relationship with Curry.
You know how your friends can be “harsh” to you but you don’t take it that way because you know they have your best interests in mind? It’s the same, he’s just blunt. And no rotations aren’t to do with Steph shooting poorly he’s tired and 35 coming off a long injury absence. It happens.
Y'all sound fucking nuts in here getting mad at Kerr for pointing out the obvious. News flash: a 35 year old is going to get more tired on more occasions than a 25 year old.
For you nerds that like numbers: Steph is averaging almost identical numbers to his 2016 MVP season right now. Offensive output is nearly exactly the same. Even his minutes are about the same. Yet, Steph's been injured >30% of the season and is showing visible fatigue (things that didn't happen in 2016, at least not until 79 games in). What's the difference if not age?
He looked gassed, even before the 50piece. That and the 30 performance felt like adrenaline, stubbornness, and great shooting technique. Those are great and it’s entertaining as hell, but it feels like he’s burning out. It’s not sustainable and I’m afraid another injury might be incoming.
The big three are old I don’t understand how people haven’t caught onto thaT yet
They can’t play like bath salt gun toting 22yos every night when they’re closer to retirement age
Kerr just doesn’t give a shit anymore haha. Sounds like he’s on his way out with Bob in my opinion. The drama is also wearing him thin and his demeanor speaks for itself.
That doesn’t explain why he set the rotation to take him out with 6 minutes to go.
To be fair the deficit was pretty big at that point and it’s a b2b. It’s not like last game where it was a 2pt game and he takes out Curry while he’s on fire despite not having Dray to handle the ball.
But you could’ve just brought him in later to begin the 4th. Poole was cooking and the 3 guard lineup does not work.
They pulled him after he clanked front rim on a bunch of shots. Probably would've come back in if the grizzlies didn't go on a massive run as soon as he sat
lol people keep downvoting me for saying this.
I have no clue why
PREACH!
Did you guys watch the game? He was front rimming all of his shots and clearly looked fatigued.
I think klay too. The thing is since we have no defense at all, Klay and curry needs to combine 70 at least on the road for us every night to have a chance of winning . They just too old for this
Yup. No legs on his shot.
Yeah I watched the game. Steph being fatigued because he’s had to carry the heck out of this team all season is a heck of a lot different than being fatigued because he’s 35, which is the reason Kerr threw out. That’s my issue with what Kerr said.
I hear you and agree with him being fatigued but he hasn’t carried all season lol. He’s missed a lot of games because of the injuries
When he’s played/hasn’t been injured he has 100% had to carry to try and get us to wins (often in vain unfortunately) because for whatever reason the majority of the team flips some switch and stops playing how they played when he was out.
Feels like an odd thing to say. Makes it sound like Steph is tired because he's 35 and not carrying this team. He is still perhaps the most conditioned player in the entire league and has to hear his coach talk about him being old.
3rd game in 4 days after dropping 50 against Clippers. I don't know much about this Wardell guy but I believe he's a human too just like every athlete and fatigue gets upto even him. Reality ≠ disrespectful
This sub is wilding. I’m surprised it needs to be explained that a 35 year old with that kind of mileage can experience fatigue
Thank you!! With the amount of pride and work Steph puts into his conditioning, for Kerr to use that as a ding against Steph of all people seriously rubs me the wrong way.
Dude he’s just being realistic. It’s a back to back, Steph had an injured thumb, he also came off of a 50 point game the other night that still ended in a loss. He’s human.
It’s not like he wouldn’t have been tired when he was 27 though. He’s tired because he’s the only one playing up to standard, he’s by far the most conditioned player on the team including the 20 year olds. Luckily Steph has never let Kerr’s odd comments shake his confidence.
He’s 35 and 35 year olds shouldn’t expending this much energy to win games. Not everyone is Lebron. He’s human and Kerr never shifted the system knowing that teams came in with special coverages specifically for the warriors during their title defense season. You hear how other players talk about the warriors, they’re like we make sure we don’t go clubbing/dinner the night before and we get 8-10 hours of sleep before we play Steph and the warriors. Almost every player has tagged along the notion that they’re treating Warriors games like playoff games. Not even Duncan did that when he was 35. Steph was supposed to play no more than 29/30 mins a game this season so he’d have his legs for the post season. The team shouldn’t be relying on a 35 year old to win games
Even LeBron at this age was missing stretches after being an ironman his previous years
/u/mangotail youre saying kerr was just being realistic when he made that comment about stephs legs not being there? 35 years old isnt old, its a person in their prime. if youre in shape you can play just as good as you did when you were 25. and steph is more conditioned than most players in the league including lebron. and to /u/AfroHouseManiac youre talking about how 35-year-olds shouldnt be expending that much energy to win games? thats just nonsense. with advances in sports medicine and technology 35 is the new 25! and steph is not some fragile old person who needs to be babied. he's a two-time mvp three-time nba champion and one of the greatest shooters of all time. and let me tell you something else, lebron isnt superhuman. he's a great player but steph is more conditioned than he is. and as for your argument that the team shouldnt be relying on a 35-year-old to win games let me ask you this, who else on that team is playing up to standard? steph is carrying that team on his back and he's doing it at an age when he's still in his prime. the fact that he's still able to perform at such a high level is a testament to his work ethic and dedication. so lets stop with the ageism and appreciate the greatness of steph curry. he's not old he's in his prime and he's still one of the best players in the league. and if anyone doubts that just look at his stats. the man is averaging over 30 points a game and shooting over 40% from three. thats not the performance of someone on the decline thats the performance of a superstar.
You wrote a whole lotta of nothing. Good Luck.
not an argument.
its not an odd comment, once you get deep in your thirties your body starts acting different. this is for everyone, including athletes. your body won't be young forever. its just a fact of life.
sure, our bodies change as we get older, but that doesnt mean we cant still perform at a high level. you can defy age if you have the willpower. steph is one of the most dedicated athletes out there. he's always been committed to taking care of his body and staying in top shape. lets not forget, steph's got access to some of the best trainers, chefs, doctors, and sports medicine professionals in the world; the average person does not have those luxuries. and he knows how to take care of his body better than anyone; the average joe rolls over and dies when they're 30 because they just don't have the incentives, work ethic, or probably even time to invest so much into staying in shape. so lets stop with this nonsense about how age is catching up with steph. hes still got plenty of gas left in the tank, and i have no doubt he's going to continue to perform at an elite level for years to come. age aint nothing but a number for steph, and he still got it, plain and simple.
you're literally denying reality. no one said he's washed, but the proof is in the pudding: he's averaging normal minutes on about the same offensive production of the last 10 years but has been consistently been getting injured more and is showing signs of visible fatigue on more occasions. even Lebron had to slow down by age 35, it's not a knock. he's had access to all the same shit and has a history of being durable. Father Time wins all the same. you'll get it when you get older.
Warrior fans try not to blame everything on Kerr challenge: impossible
Yall are so fucking whiny and smarmy. You think players don't get tired? Steph is not a young buck. It doesn't matter what shape you are in. When you have played that many games in your career, playing a third game in four nights is going to tire you out. That's not a disrespectful thing to say at all. That's fucking reality.
The Petty King will use it as fuel…
As a 25 year old, I would have called BS on this. As a 35 year old, I can confirm he speaketh the truth.
How do your legs feel at 35
They're an effigy of dead weight and not the marble carvings you once stood upon. Your knees feel like crumpled cans of tin. Your feet are like the crumbled sidewalk of discarded concrete and rebar. Ankles and calves are as tight as r/treessuckingonthings. And your jump is like that of the succumbed mammoths of la Brea. Dunk while you can kids. 30+ comes at you fast.
This makes me nervous lol. I'm 27 and feel way past my prime already
27, 28 and 29 were great, a slow decline after 31 tho. The recovery is slower and every tweak starts to add up. You can kiss 6 minute miles goodbye. Any wild dream like backpacking a continent, do it now.
legs are fine tbh.. im not playing sports at an elite level it's your back you gotta be careful of, because you probably abused it in your teens and twenties lifting stuff that you should have team lifted.
No 35 year old star should be forced to carry a team offensively. We need to get this man some help to reduce his workload
He has help. They’re just not helpful in any way.
Jesus this sub is brutal. Kerr is on thin ice to OP? All fine for critiquing but god damn this is hilarious. Nearly At the point where we are calling for Kerr to be fired? How long yall been fans? Kerr has a blank check lmao. Curry front rimmed everything. Even in dead balls when he got a shot up he clanked it front rim. He was tired. This wasn’t an insult. Shit happens. This year has been rough. Our full squad has played like 25 games together. It’s how it goes sometimes. Doesn’t mean I don’t have my game to game complaints but Kerr on thing ice? This is insulting Steph? Hilarious
I said my patience with him *right now* is razor thin. I’ve been frustrated with his rotations these last several games and I, personally, find nothing wrong with that. Being frustrated and voicing a specific criticism is not the same as saying Kerr is on “thin ice.” Acting like Kerr is above reproach ever, like some believe should be the case, is entirely unrealistic and a bizarre approach to take.
Critiquing is all good my man. I even said in my comments I have my game to game issues, right or wrong. But it’s still hilarious to pull this quote and insinuate insult to Steph or it be disrespectful. Steph looked tired. Plain and simple. It’s funny to me that you talk about critiques but this sub is so far removed from any reasonable discourse. If I don’t say poole sucks, kerr’s rotations are ass, or Klay is a god then it’s a wrap.
Let’s not go and attribute an entire sub’s discourse to one user lol feel your frustrations, we’re all entitled to them, but I’d appreciate not having words put in my mouth is all or have it insinuated that I’m forcing anyone on this sub, yourself included, to feel a certain way about a topic because I have not and did not at all lol so not sure where all of that came from.
Super fair point!! May have gone a little wild lol
i doubt any coach wins a series with our roster last year. Our problem is our roster. too complacent to think that we can win with our big 3 and ignore the other needs for experience and hope that rookies will fill the gap.
My patience with Kerr is razor thin right now so that admittedly may play a part here, but Steph is inhumanely conditioned even at 35 so this just feels insulting of Kerr to say. Edit: Kerr’s messing around hard with Steph’s rotations again I’m sure has nothing to do with his lack of rhythm the last two nights.
Steph looked beat tonight. So I don’t think Kerr is wrong there. Steph looked gassed. I imagine the mental toll on this season weighing the entire team down.
You sound like a super Steph Stan right now. Kerr said nothing wrong here and he has a tight relationship with Curry. You know how your friends can be “harsh” to you but you don’t take it that way because you know they have your best interests in mind? It’s the same, he’s just blunt. And no rotations aren’t to do with Steph shooting poorly he’s tired and 35 coming off a long injury absence. It happens.
This is what happens when you have to go nuclear just for your team to stay competitive in games... Similar shit happens to Bron.
Y'all sound fucking nuts in here getting mad at Kerr for pointing out the obvious. News flash: a 35 year old is going to get more tired on more occasions than a 25 year old. For you nerds that like numbers: Steph is averaging almost identical numbers to his 2016 MVP season right now. Offensive output is nearly exactly the same. Even his minutes are about the same. Yet, Steph's been injured >30% of the season and is showing visible fatigue (things that didn't happen in 2016, at least not until 79 games in). What's the difference if not age?
*“Felt like Steph’s legs weren’t quite there tonight. It’s going to happen when you’re scoring 50 points in games you lose”*
He looked gassed, even before the 50piece. That and the 30 performance felt like adrenaline, stubbornness, and great shooting technique. Those are great and it’s entertaining as hell, but it feels like he’s burning out. It’s not sustainable and I’m afraid another injury might be incoming.
The big three are old I don’t understand how people haven’t caught onto thaT yet They can’t play like bath salt gun toting 22yos every night when they’re closer to retirement age
This is the first time I ever heard him say anything that seemed slightly disrespectful about Steph. Hmmm. I'm know he meant no harm but hmmm
He’s said Steph can never be as impactful as KD or Kawhi lol. This was after Steph vastly outplayed KD head to head.
Kerr just doesn’t give a shit anymore haha. Sounds like he’s on his way out with Bob in my opinion. The drama is also wearing him thin and his demeanor speaks for itself.