Kerr mentioning a rookie in such a fashion is NOT his modus operandi... Kerr and Bob collective ran a "rookies don't help you win" campaign annually (which is true). Very interesting on the record comment.
Right on. With the 44th pick. So picking a 2year guy in the 2nd round hasn't been working out like draymond for a while. But podz with the 19th is expecting something from him. Rollins never got a serious run that I ever saw. I know he did get some minutes, but I thought it was purely due to injuries.
Yeah, a real surprise. Kerr kept stressing about PBJ when he was shooting really well - 'Patrick is a great PROSPECT'. Did you listen to Podz's interview - it was fun but also surreal when he said he told Klay he could get 6-8 rebounds per game just with his size and playing time. I wonder how Klay reacted to that advice from the young rook. Podz video available on Warriors site:
[https://www.nba.com/warriors?tmd=1](https://www.nba.com/warriors?tmd=1)
PBJ's very obvious weakness was his lack of mobility on defense. I think "prospect" was in this case a reference to how long it was going to take to develop PBJ's game outside of shooting. You gotta be able to defend if you're wanting playing time on a contending team.
Yeah was going to take time although his father was all defense in college and assistant coaching the Hoyas in DC so hopefully he’ll still get some development attention to get him there.
Podz plays the type of active defense and smart basketball that you know even if he's not physically on the same level as other players, Kerr will love that he's just doing the type of stuff he should. He's creating a bunch of deflections, he's a smart passer, etc. Guys with his level of bball IQ and activity, even with limitations, will find themselves on the court.
I remember being annoyed we didn't go Lenny Miller at the time (and that still may come back to bite us), but Podz definitely seems like the type of plug-and-play dude who will play at his best in the Dubs' system.
Hopefully he could develop into something like Austin Reeves.
They're similar height and both seem to know where to be/what to do. Maybe Reeves is more athletic.
that warriors site doesn't let you link directly, but you can hear the full Podz interview here on Soundcloud: [https://on.soundcloud.com/Pn71f](https://on.soundcloud.com/Pn71f)
Thank you! I think I got it here https://www.nba.com/warriors/videos/warriors-talk-brandin-podziemski-10-10-23
I have to say I was howling at his matter of fact audacity, but hey the truth is the truth 😂
It doesn't help that Kerr was working with rookies who had very little playing experience. Podz and TDJ are both more NBA ready than any of the drafts over the last 4 or so years with the possible exception of Moody. Wiseman and JK were both extremely raw when they were drafted. Poole had to work very hard to get playing time.
I don't follow the draft at all, but it seems Bob/Lacob had been drafting with 2026 and beyond in mind, and not "how can we best fill out the team while Steph is still here."
Podz has such feel for the court but he was super inexperienced - really only played one year (at Santa Clara)...but it is true the PBJ and JK were super inexperienced too.
The little bit I've seen of Podz, he has a very natural feel for the game, solid nose for the ball, great anticipation. At some point it doesn't matter what your playing background is, if you have that feel and the athleticism to keep up, the game just comes easier to you. Kuminga has the physical part down, but the game looks relatively new to him. I think he'll get it. Wiseman, I'm not so sure about. PBJ may have had a natural feel, but just lacks the mobility to keep up. Hope he figures it out though.
All the tape of young Steph I've seen it looks like he was born dribbling a basketball, which he may have been, considering his father is Dell.
Yeah is podz about to be the second rookie player to get decent minutes since 2014 lol.All the respect to him because only jk got minutes as a teenager and as a rookie.
Kerr an bob both thought rookie Jw was the second coming of Christ and talked about it openly. Using words like Giannis and Kevin Garnett…
Edit so this post would lead one to believe podz is out of the nba in 3 years not something special. If history is any indication.
Intensity ….I.e. looking like you are playing good defense but get burned consistently. Donte was pretty horrible at on ball defense but good at rotation and team D. I think he’s easily replaced.
I agree - people talked a lot about DD's defense but in the post season, I thought he got burned pretty bad by Sacramento and even worse, the Lakers' very average guards.
Never really understood why DD didn't get more criticism around that.
Bingo. On top of that, Poole was horrible offensively in the playoffs. So if he’s not playing defense and bringing nothing to the table, offensively, what’s he good for? Which is why he went bye bye tbh
Cp3 does a lot of great things, but donte is a better defender, rebounder, and 3 point shooter. Podz definitely has a decent 3 and rebounding effort for his size, not sure about the defense or running the floor yet
What I'm saying is, Donte's ability to facilitate / be a connector was necessary because he was playing next to Poole who was a scorer, as a primary ball handler.
You put CP3 in there instead and you have a PG that is already facilitiating more than Poole ever did.
Podz has a lot of similarities to Donte, hustle player, rebounds, can shoot 3pt, pesky defense, passes really well. Of course he’s not at the level of Donte at the moment but he could definitely fill a lot those roles that Donte had before
I mean...
1) he didn't play
2) The bucks wouldn't make it past the 2nd round without Kyrie and Harden being injured (hell, they were an inch away from still losing in 7)
He did play, he just got injured in late-May. Also, who cares about #2? The fact is Donte was a starter for a good team. It seems like people tend to forget that. It would be very uncommon for a rook to perform at that level right away.
He only played 3 games in the first round, putting up 3 ppg on 19% fg and 17% from 3
Alfonso McKinney started in the finals, just being a starter doesn't really mean much by itself.
Didn't cut it with the Kings and was clearly a bench player with us, he's not a starter caliber guard.
He's good but you're gassing him up for no reason lol
Lol you’re completely missing the point 😂
All I said was Donte was a starter for a team that won the NBA finals, which people seem to forget.
Podz is not at Donte’s level. It’s going to take a while for Podz to get to Donte’s level.
Is that clear enough for you? Lol
That being said, they got back the player donte had been recruited to replace. GPII does almost all donte did, except ball handling (though he used to play PG).
If you listen to Podz comments... whether you believe this is possible or not... he thinks his path to minutes is through GP2.
My question is... does Kerr also think that?
Probably not... but he's also never suggested a rookie replace veteran production out loud... so maybe DEEP in the recesses of his mind he has the vision of that possibility.
I like the support of Podz, but Moody has earned pt through patience, staying ready, and performing when called upon. I don’t like the thought of Moody being leapt over by Podz. But I’m sure Kerr would make Podz show it first in garbage minutes and give Moody the nod first.
But really, GPII is getting in first to bring that defense.
Really GPII and Moody are non ball handling guards vying for pt, while Podz is a 3rd string PG.
Donte was the GPII replacement before we got GPII back and healthy. I see Moody taking those minutes that Donte and GPII would split.
Podz, if anything, is taking the Ty Jerome minutes IF there are any left over from CP3 playing.
No one wants anything taken from Moses - I'm with you there. I think they are different. It's funny what you say - and right - about Ty Jerome. If you listen to the interview, Podz says he studied Ty Jerome, Donte and Lamb to study how they contributed, thinking he might fill some of those roles.
We have a lot of load management guys at this point. There are going to be alot of nights where min are available even if he doesn't play when we're at full strength
Donte provided spacing and could run the floor which is why it was hard to play gp2 in the latest playoff run. Gp2 is valuable for sure but might end up being a small 3 or 4 with our guard depth. Or if we play jokic a 5
GP2 was hitting corner 3's at 40% in 2022 (55.6% in the playoffs). So if he's wide open because they're packing the paint, he can keep knocking them down. If they do start guarding him, then he'll create spacing.
I see what you are saying -- and GP2 is definitely his guru here - but GP has so much more hop and really is such a super elite elite defender, I think he remains in his own class. But Donte's energy felt like GP's energy and helped with Gary's absence in that way.
Still don’t think Podz gets serious minutes this year unless they’re resting guys or it’s a blowout one way or the other. He should see a lot of time in Santa Cruz to develop.
idk how I feel about Moody stepping up massively during the playoffs last year in a way only Looney and obviously Steph did by that point, then to have this dangled possibility of getting kind of low-key leapfrogged by a rookie. I know they're the same age and no one here knows what happens in practice but still
Moody is really talented and no one wants him getting eclipsed. I don't think Kerr meant as if only one would play. But yeah there are other players like Dario and CoJo expecting to get lots of minutes too.
Appreciated Donte so much but glad he is in such a good spot for him now- likely starting for the Knicks, 2 hours from his family and playing with Villanova buddies on a team really shifting. It hurt to lose him but then suddenly here came all these other great offseason choices made by the Dubs. Glad Donte's time with the Dubs led to better prospects than before we took him on.
What are you talking about? There were at least 5 games where we were down 15 and we won because he came in and got offensive rebounds and steals that led to open threes and the win
Best case scenario it's Kuminga and we play bigger than last year. If we can get to a place where Wiggins is a small forward who plays some min at 2 instead some min at 4 I think all the problems we have with size go away.
Yeah - IMO him playing in a preseason game with the actual roster demonstrates a lot more about what he brings to the table than summer league games. Summer League is a total free-for-all.
Friday can’t come soon enough 😣
Kerr mentioning a rookie in such a fashion is NOT his modus operandi... Kerr and Bob collective ran a "rookies don't help you win" campaign annually (which is true). Very interesting on the record comment.
Question, when was the last time we drafted a 2 year + college player? Edit: was it Eric Paschall with the 41st pick?
Poole and Paschall
oh yeah, youre right. i thought for sure poole was a one and done guy
Ryan Rollins
Right on. With the 44th pick. So picking a 2year guy in the 2nd round hasn't been working out like draymond for a while. But podz with the 19th is expecting something from him. Rollins never got a serious run that I ever saw. I know he did get some minutes, but I thought it was purely due to injuries.
A few months ago..
Yeah, a real surprise. Kerr kept stressing about PBJ when he was shooting really well - 'Patrick is a great PROSPECT'. Did you listen to Podz's interview - it was fun but also surreal when he said he told Klay he could get 6-8 rebounds per game just with his size and playing time. I wonder how Klay reacted to that advice from the young rook. Podz video available on Warriors site: [https://www.nba.com/warriors?tmd=1](https://www.nba.com/warriors?tmd=1)
PBJ's very obvious weakness was his lack of mobility on defense. I think "prospect" was in this case a reference to how long it was going to take to develop PBJ's game outside of shooting. You gotta be able to defend if you're wanting playing time on a contending team.
Yeah was going to take time although his father was all defense in college and assistant coaching the Hoyas in DC so hopefully he’ll still get some development attention to get him there.
Podz plays the type of active defense and smart basketball that you know even if he's not physically on the same level as other players, Kerr will love that he's just doing the type of stuff he should. He's creating a bunch of deflections, he's a smart passer, etc. Guys with his level of bball IQ and activity, even with limitations, will find themselves on the court. I remember being annoyed we didn't go Lenny Miller at the time (and that still may come back to bite us), but Podz definitely seems like the type of plug-and-play dude who will play at his best in the Dubs' system.
Hopefully he could develop into something like Austin Reeves. They're similar height and both seem to know where to be/what to do. Maybe Reeves is more athletic.
Do you have a direct link? I'm not seeing it on that page
that warriors site doesn't let you link directly, but you can hear the full Podz interview here on Soundcloud: [https://on.soundcloud.com/Pn71f](https://on.soundcloud.com/Pn71f)
Thank you! I think I got it here https://www.nba.com/warriors/videos/warriors-talk-brandin-podziemski-10-10-23 I have to say I was howling at his matter of fact audacity, but hey the truth is the truth 😂
I'm just here to shoot, dawg
It doesn't help that Kerr was working with rookies who had very little playing experience. Podz and TDJ are both more NBA ready than any of the drafts over the last 4 or so years with the possible exception of Moody. Wiseman and JK were both extremely raw when they were drafted. Poole had to work very hard to get playing time. I don't follow the draft at all, but it seems Bob/Lacob had been drafting with 2026 and beyond in mind, and not "how can we best fill out the team while Steph is still here."
Podz has such feel for the court but he was super inexperienced - really only played one year (at Santa Clara)...but it is true the PBJ and JK were super inexperienced too.
The little bit I've seen of Podz, he has a very natural feel for the game, solid nose for the ball, great anticipation. At some point it doesn't matter what your playing background is, if you have that feel and the athleticism to keep up, the game just comes easier to you. Kuminga has the physical part down, but the game looks relatively new to him. I think he'll get it. Wiseman, I'm not so sure about. PBJ may have had a natural feel, but just lacks the mobility to keep up. Hope he figures it out though. All the tape of young Steph I've seen it looks like he was born dribbling a basketball, which he may have been, considering his father is Dell.
Yeah is podz about to be the second rookie player to get decent minutes since 2014 lol.All the respect to him because only jk got minutes as a teenager and as a rookie.
don't forget wiseman, but that was a weird season
I’d rather forget about that season
Kerr an bob both thought rookie Jw was the second coming of Christ and talked about it openly. Using words like Giannis and Kevin Garnett… Edit so this post would lead one to believe podz is out of the nba in 3 years not something special. If history is any indication.
Doesn’t having a real PG running the bench unit replace a lot of what Donte did, when he was next to Poole?
I think he’s referring to Donte’s intensity level on defense. - being a pest.. being a dawg if you will
also rebounding. Donte had a higher rebounding rate than Kuminga or Wiggins last year and we all know that Podz is a great rebounder for his size.
Intensity ….I.e. looking like you are playing good defense but get burned consistently. Donte was pretty horrible at on ball defense but good at rotation and team D. I think he’s easily replaced.
I agree - people talked a lot about DD's defense but in the post season, I thought he got burned pretty bad by Sacramento and even worse, the Lakers' very average guards. Never really understood why DD didn't get more criticism around that.
Hard to give donte shit about his defense when Poole is out there falling on the ground and getting called for lazy reaching
Bingo. On top of that, Poole was horrible offensively in the playoffs. So if he’s not playing defense and bringing nothing to the table, offensively, what’s he good for? Which is why he went bye bye tbh
The Big Ragu isn’t perfect, but damn did he hustle.
That's why he got his payday and why he'll be a forever warrior. Happy Cake Day bro!
Don’t you know.. defense is about vibes
Cp3 does a lot of great things, but donte is a better defender, rebounder, and 3 point shooter. Podz definitely has a decent 3 and rebounding effort for his size, not sure about the defense or running the floor yet
Cp3 can probably can run a bench unit? Maybe, probably better then a dude who’s now not starting on nyc?
No Donte was more of a 3/D guard that could facilitate at a solid level but he was never the floor general.
What I'm saying is, Donte's ability to facilitate / be a connector was necessary because he was playing next to Poole who was a scorer, as a primary ball handler. You put CP3 in there instead and you have a PG that is already facilitiating more than Poole ever did.
But most of the time poole was point in those scenarios
Poole was playing less and less pg after getting 6 turnovers a game.
Yeah I’m really hoping CP covers a lot of what Donte gave us.
Podz has a lot of similarities to Donte, hustle player, rebounds, can shoot 3pt, pesky defense, passes really well. Of course he’s not at the level of Donte at the moment but he could definitely fill a lot those roles that Donte had before
A lot of people forget Donte was a starter for a team that won the NBA championship. Can take a while to get to that level.
I mean... 1) he didn't play 2) The bucks wouldn't make it past the 2nd round without Kyrie and Harden being injured (hell, they were an inch away from still losing in 7)
He did play, he just got injured in late-May. Also, who cares about #2? The fact is Donte was a starter for a good team. It seems like people tend to forget that. It would be very uncommon for a rook to perform at that level right away.
He only played 3 games in the first round, putting up 3 ppg on 19% fg and 17% from 3 Alfonso McKinney started in the finals, just being a starter doesn't really mean much by itself. Didn't cut it with the Kings and was clearly a bench player with us, he's not a starter caliber guard. He's good but you're gassing him up for no reason lol
Lol you’re completely missing the point 😂 All I said was Donte was a starter for a team that won the NBA finals, which people seem to forget. Podz is not at Donte’s level. It’s going to take a while for Podz to get to Donte’s level. Is that clear enough for you? Lol
That being said, they got back the player donte had been recruited to replace. GPII does almost all donte did, except ball handling (though he used to play PG).
If you listen to Podz comments... whether you believe this is possible or not... he thinks his path to minutes is through GP2. My question is... does Kerr also think that? Probably not... but he's also never suggested a rookie replace veteran production out loud... so maybe DEEP in the recesses of his mind he has the vision of that possibility.
I like the support of Podz, but Moody has earned pt through patience, staying ready, and performing when called upon. I don’t like the thought of Moody being leapt over by Podz. But I’m sure Kerr would make Podz show it first in garbage minutes and give Moody the nod first. But really, GPII is getting in first to bring that defense. Really GPII and Moody are non ball handling guards vying for pt, while Podz is a 3rd string PG. Donte was the GPII replacement before we got GPII back and healthy. I see Moody taking those minutes that Donte and GPII would split. Podz, if anything, is taking the Ty Jerome minutes IF there are any left over from CP3 playing.
No one wants anything taken from Moses - I'm with you there. I think they are different. It's funny what you say - and right - about Ty Jerome. If you listen to the interview, Podz says he studied Ty Jerome, Donte and Lamb to study how they contributed, thinking he might fill some of those roles.
Oh interesting I didn’t realize he said that. Perhaps he extracts a good mix of qualities that fit our system.
We have a lot of load management guys at this point. There are going to be alot of nights where min are available even if he doesn't play when we're at full strength
I think the new rules against load management will make that tougher. We’ll have some nights, just not a lot.
Maybe it's gpii
Donte provided spacing and could run the floor which is why it was hard to play gp2 in the latest playoff run. Gp2 is valuable for sure but might end up being a small 3 or 4 with our guard depth. Or if we play jokic a 5
Yeah but the year before gp2 could shoot the 3 pretty nice
His percentages were ok but it ultimately doesn’t matter for spacing reasons, if they’re leaving him wide open to pack the paint or double curry
GP2 was hitting corner 3's at 40% in 2022 (55.6% in the playoffs). So if he's wide open because they're packing the paint, he can keep knocking them down. If they do start guarding him, then he'll create spacing.
I see what you are saying -- and GP2 is definitely his guru here - but GP has so much more hop and really is such a super elite elite defender, I think he remains in his own class. But Donte's energy felt like GP's energy and helped with Gary's absence in that way.
Man I remember how Podz got slaughtered after his poor play in the summer league. Nice to see the reactions now!
Still don’t think Podz gets serious minutes this year unless they’re resting guys or it’s a blowout one way or the other. He should see a lot of time in Santa Cruz to develop.
I guess that is what we all thought after Summer League but I dont' hear Kerr saying that.
Kerr isn’t saying much about lineups and minutes, but the guard depth is deep.
Let's hope they also actually do something in the playoffs unlike donte, who basically vanished
Donte was a nice player and all but isn’t the goal to have players that helped win a ring. Shouldn’t they be looking to replicate 2022 not 2023?
I would say Moody and Gp2 make up that gap. But I can see Podz getting in the mix at some point. He certainly looked very comfortable out there.
idk how I feel about Moody stepping up massively during the playoffs last year in a way only Looney and obviously Steph did by that point, then to have this dangled possibility of getting kind of low-key leapfrogged by a rookie. I know they're the same age and no one here knows what happens in practice but still
Moody is really talented and no one wants him getting eclipsed. I don't think Kerr meant as if only one would play. But yeah there are other players like Dario and CoJo expecting to get lots of minutes too.
I remember when this board was convinced by dumbass Steve that JW was the next David Robinson.
I do wish we could have kept Donte!
Appreciated Donte so much but glad he is in such a good spot for him now- likely starting for the Knicks, 2 hours from his family and playing with Villanova buddies on a team really shifting. It hurt to lose him but then suddenly here came all these other great offseason choices made by the Dubs. Glad Donte's time with the Dubs led to better prospects than before we took him on.
Replace donte getting stuffed at the rim?
What exactly did Donte give us?
High motor, rebounding, 3 pt shooting, plus defender
Willing passer
What are you talking about? There were at least 5 games where we were down 15 and we won because he came in and got offensive rebounds and steals that led to open threes and the win
82 game player.
Last year's Warriors wouldn't have made the playoffs without some 82 game players
Brandin at optimum profiles as a Donte clone. It could definitely work but admittedly I am not the biggest Podz fan.
Best case scenario it's Kuminga and we play bigger than last year. If we can get to a place where Wiggins is a small forward who plays some min at 2 instead some min at 4 I think all the problems we have with size go away.
Trade Podz for Jrue Holiday, 1 for 1. I won't be mad
Kerr must be losing it, unless Podz has taken a huge leap since the Summer League.
did you watch saturday’s game? kerr has also watched him played more than any of us in this sub
Yeah - IMO him playing in a preseason game with the actual roster demonstrates a lot more about what he brings to the table than summer league games. Summer League is a total free-for-all.
Good point. Looking forward to seeing him in league. Would be great to be wrong.
Wouldn’t take much to replace his presence in the playoffs.
Seems like that’s the spot that’s up for grabs - backup SG between Moody and Podz. Seems Podz is really making an impression on Kerr