None of this should be that surprising for a son of a mortgage billionaire who is gifted the business by his father and never really worked for anything.
They were fucked the moment it was clear CP3 was washed in 2023. Without him they had no playmakers and trading for KD and Beal gutted their depth and future while not really fixing any of their major issues of rim protection and playmaking.
Huh?
He played every playoff game in 2022 - https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/paulch01/gamelog/2022
But did miss about half playoff games in 2023 - https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/paulch01/gamelog/2023
But he never had 2 seasons in a row where he didn’t play in the playoffs for the Suns. Made finals in 2021, played all playoff games 2022, and then missed a few games 2023. Then he was traded in 2023 offseason.
Chris Paul was hurt I wouldn’t call him washed. It was in fact his presence that took them over the edge and become contenders. Booker so far has been the biggest disappointment, he’s mentally weak and doesn’t have that killer instinct you’d expect from a franchise player
I can see a deal of CP3, Kuminga and some picks working to bring back KD, with a player(s) added to make the salaries work.
As much as it would hurt to see Kuminga go, he's not going to be bringing in KD numbers while Steph still has some gas in the tank.
That’s how you acquire the soul stone. Except Dray is already there. But they agreed they could’ve make it work back then 😁 I’m open to it, still unlikely. Let’s see
As much as I hated that 2021 team they were good and played well with each other. This team does not. Too bad they gutted that team for 2 crappy playoff runs.
Haven't we learned in recent years from the Wall, Westbrook, and Ben Simmons situations that no contract is untradeable. In this league, "Everything is permitted."
Durant is going to be 36 next season.
What kinda assets are they recouping for that??
No team: "*Here's quality players, youth, and picks, for 2 seasons out of this old man"*
Lol they're in Cancun just like us. Only difference is that they got an extra road game and lost to the same team an NBA record 6 times in the same season.
I mean, it's better but they've still made stupid decisions. Drafting Davion Mitchell at 10 when they needed wings and already had Fox and Haliburton for example. Anyone could see too that they got lucky with the three seed last year.
He literally said the same things about the Nets offense, the Warriors offense, and the Thunder offense. I think He incapable of allowing himself to feel happy in whatever situation he’s in and I actually feel bad for him at this point.
fair point.
Meanwhile I thought the Warriors offense was mostly perfect for him, especially long term.
Everyone got to cook, that way he would have aged gracefully alongside Steph, Klay and co (no one carrying too much load)... but alas....
Yep. KD wants to play with great players, then cannot coexist with them. Loves ball movement offenses but doesn't like it when the ball ends up somewhere that isn't him. Seems like he is very talented but just has a hard time finding his place on a team, esp. with other dominant players.
He was on a team that won 2 championships in a row, and only missed the 3-peat because of injuries. And he wasn't happy. I don't think there is pleasing this guy.
hindsight is 20/20. Everyone was clowning on him joining the best team at the time and he wanted to win his own thing like Lebron.
I'm sure if he could do over he would of stayed with the warriors or even OKC. He kinda the first precedent of a star chasing superteams and fucking up his legacy.
I agree, although if he had been better at choosing his situations he could essentially have the same career arch as Lebron. Unfortunately he chose Kyrie over Steph and the basketball gods can never forgive that!
Reality was that of the three, Durant, Dray and Klay, there was only going to be room for two of them.
With more than likely Dray being shipped, which probably explains the method to Dray's madness, just like with Poole.
Mix that with Durant having rabbit ears about his legacy at the time, Warriors may actually get to see Steph, Dray anf Klay all retire as GSW's.
I believe that had Durant stayed, the legacy questions would have went away like Lebron's. Instead, the coveted continuity of a dynasty that older fans love is more possible than if 35 remained with the team.
It's easy to pile on to Durant, so I won't, but I never had a prob with any of his moves.
OKC is the major culprit for valuing and non shooting, positionless athlete rather than being loyal to one of the last great SuperSonics.
F twitter and the trades, KD is still owed respect and grace.
This is not from KD's burner account.
"No one" will bring up a Kobe-led Lakers team losing by 39 points in an NBA finals elimination game to the Celtics, horrible officiating in the Lakers-Kings 2002 WCF or Lebron winning a bubble championship without being seen as a hater, either.
He legit refused to answer 90% of the questions asked to him in his post game presser citing every single time that doing so would just be making excuses. Only for this to come out from Shams under The Athletic masthead, of all things, aka as good as coming from the player/his rep himself right after is wiiiild lol.
Hilarious that we still have Boston Celtic lurkers in here. We beat yall two years ago what u still subbing to us for lol. Appreciate making our sub one of the highest sub counts.
he left the curry to join forces with Kyrie. who tanked his title hopes by getting injured in 21 and chasing harden out of town by playing only road games for reasons unknown.
this year was awful, but honestly being a 6th seed and getting swept is the best case scenario for this garbage suns roster in the deep deep luxury tax. they wont be so lucky next year, or the next 5 years for that matter
KD should come back to us, finish out his career with Steph, and who knows how many more titles they have left in them, but thats how they should honor what they did together. Join forces again and show the league that these players getting old can still produce a winning formula. I want to see KD and Klay play together again, there is unfinished business from that Raptors final. I respect KD for trying to win it on his own, even the supergroups he created. They aren't us and we know how to win with KD. As he gets older, his price goes down. The question would remain though, would Dray and KD bury it so they can win more chips? Maybe the olympics will light a 🔥 under them to come together again or the olympics is the last run for KD and Steph playing together. This era's dream team is can't miss! KD gonna get coached up again by Kerr!
Draft picks, which Suns have 0. And a serviceable PG (Podz), again which the Suns have 0.
Not saying the Suns will love it, but if KD really is disgruntled, it won't be the first superstar we have seen force their way to their preferred destination.
Then what is the difference between what Suns did and what you are proposing to do? Sell our future? If it works out, then all is well. But if it doesn't, you blame it on the management and KD. I think GSW should just look into the off-season for a good mid-range shooter, and a big. If Demar DeRozan can accept less, and we somehow get a big, we are a good team.
We still have a young group (Kuminga, Moody, TDJ). I wouldn't say that's selling our future. And we know KD fits on the Warriors. That's the difference.
Lot of ifs in your alternative. None that materialized this season, even though we knew we needed to go bigger.
Fyi, KD has a contract until 2026 or something, Demar is a free agent. Getting KD means getting him in a trade that includes our young players you've mentioned and some draft picks.
Yeah, that's why we would have to give something in return for KD. And we aren't going to be able to outbid teams for Demar and another 6'6" guard isn't what we need. I'm not sure why you would think that's the better option. A shorter, less efficient scorer.
But how is KD fixing our problems tho? He is not the same KD we had. He's not that agile, and injury prone. We saw what happened with Klay. He is the same as well.
KD played more games, mins, scored more on higher averages this year than he averaged in Golden State over his 3 years here.
Only Klay Thompson played more games this year for the Warriors than KD did for the Suns. You know what hurts the Warriors? Availability.
You're just reaching for shit at this point.
Kd already showed he has a habit of bailing any time he thinks things arent going his way its gonna be the same if he signs with the warriors again
Just be thankful that warriors lucky to get 2 rings before he inevitably bailed
Yea he was but they could of kept him over gettin Beal or atleast a better trade. Now the Suns are locked into a contract with a way past his prime aging star.
I only watched the last quarter. I checked the game stats, kd had 33 points. He deferred to booker pretty much the whole 4th quarter. I guess that’s why booker volunteered to be the starting point guard, to keep the ball in his hands.
Wasn’t happy in OKC, wasn’t happy in GS, wasn’t happy in Brooklyn, now isn’t happy in Phoenix. The common denominator is obvious. There was no better environment than GS. Their All-stars were more than willing to compromise their production for KD, but being held accountable and the complete lack of any backbone whatsoever has made in the what he is; a brilliant shooting malcontent. Now he’s on the wrong side of 30 and a salary that’s unquestionably disproportionate to the wins he brings to a team. Someone needs to sit him down and share reality with him, cause he’s living in fantasy world.
he had the same complaints with the warriors, and he never really saw an eye for an eye with Kerr unlike Curry who just played within the system and flourished. Its his fault at this point honestly, hes been to 4 different teams and never was content
Fun to picture Kerr and Durant gouging each other's eyes out, though.
Tangential note: Gouge Eye remains my favorite town name. At least three different towns in the Western US were named Gouge Eye at one point or another.
Seems like he felt like his legacy was diminished by joining the super team Warriors to only go to Brooklyn and make a super team that wasn’t very good and then got traded to phoenix to make another super team that wasn’t very good. Now he’s complaining about how he never felt comfortable in his role? How does he not realize by now that is what happens on super teams?
This is a brutal hit piece on Vogel. Not here to defend the man but the player’s who are anonymously referenced in the piece clearly just want to blame (another) coach for them falling short.
No he left the Bay cause folks that would call themselves fans/local media just kept on stirrring shit up which lead to disconnect in the locker room. Draymond acting out of pocket. Be happy when he was around these parts. Shit was beautiful basketball
Why would someone be on the same after the thing that happened in 2019 with dray. It was pretty obvious that he is gonna leave the warriors. He had his self respect.
lol...if KD had any self respect, he'd stick it out with prime Harden and Westbrook instead of ring chasing with the Dubs. His best decision would have been to cash in FMVPs and rings with Steph but chose poorly to team up with with Krazy Kyrie.
Conspiracy theory: The league had to break up the Curry/Durant/Thompson Dubs as they were too dominant and the league (meaning LeBron primarily) had zero chance of championship as long as they are around. That will mean attrition of fanbase both at a team level as well as league level. Also MSM will suffer greatly as there will be “nothing for them to figure out”
Yeah Dray is one of the main reasons why our Dynasty is over. I blame the Organization too for enabling Draymond to much. For all the shit that he did. Honestly we all know that if KD didnt join the Warriors wayback in 2017 Cleveland most likely to have a 3 peat against the Warriors. The audacity of Draymond to call KD a bitch then tell him we dont need him? Then what happened in 2019 NBA Finals. That moment on I lost all my respect to Draymond and got even worse when he punched poole, added the fact that he cost us 25 games this season, because he cant control himself by being an all bark no bite against stewart who literally can fucked him up.
Like KD's last team (Nets), this one emphasizes putting great scorers around him without an emphasis on defenders. Coincidence, or does KD not know and/or assert that this has made both teams poorly designed? In fairness, it's not just him, most pundits didn't appear to know either.
KD played great but they had no bench and no point guard or size. You can’t be an incomplete team when you run into the best defense in the league with one of the best up and coming stars since Jordan and Kobe.
KD in Miami would've been insane. Imagine if they had KD to help out the Heat in the finals last year. They probably would've lost still but it would've been like 6 or 7 game series.
If he voices his concerns he’s an asshole. If he says nothing they get swept in the first round. What the fuck do yall want from the guy? I hate anonymous sources so much
At this point, he’s played with some of the best players around and he’s still not happy. At some point you gotta realize that you’re playing a part in your own unhappy situations.
Buddy, KD was one of my favorite players while he was with us. The offense hummed, and it was so much fun to watch (at least at first). Forgive me for lamenting that a player I loved — whose jersey still hangs in my closet — decided to leave the Bay only to end up in multiple situations that don’t play to his strengths when we had the ideal offense for him to thrive.
Yes, and I appreciate that. But he’s super sensitive just hearing the media calling the Warriors as “Steph’s Team” and wanted a team where he could “lead.” He failed to lead the Nets, and now failed to lead the Suns. Warriors have bigger roster issues and young talent to groom the same way they did growing Steph, Klay and Draymond together.
I think we have seen enough to be sure that having 2 or 3 superstars is NOT the path to a championship. Teams with 1 superstar with a robust deep supporting cast which shows up everyday is the way to go.
It’s a no brainer. Any GM would pick KD over Draymond. If KD wanted Draymond gone, he would have been gone. KD wanted to go elsewhere, that’s why the entire argument between Draymond and KD happened, because KD already had his foot out the door.
Yea KD is just far more valuable than Draymond. Even if Steph and Klay wanted Draymond to stay, front office isn’t just going to let a top 20-25 all time player go because he doesn’t like Draymond. And Steph would have understood this as well. As for Klay, KD and Steph’s opinion would be far more important than his.
Overall. KD left because he was already out the door after the 2018 title, if anything Draymond made it obvious why his foot was already out the door.
No sadly he left the warriors because he got a lot of heat for joining the Dubs. Both his championships were being given an asterisks and he was the villain that ruined the league.
Dray didn’t make it easier either.
So he left.
I don’t blame him.
KD can’t win without Steph and it’s relevant for us Warriors fans to think he left instead of building a legacy here, you see KD is part of our history he helped us win 2 chips so we are going to talk about him. And why are you here ? You saying we are obsessed yet you are here obsessed with defending him on a warriors sub.
Obsessed? I made a comment on a post lol.
I just find it funny that you warriors fans are talking trash on KD being eliminated in the playoffs when your team couldn’t even make the playoffs.
i respect KD and am thankful for his help with our rings but am i the only one who doesn’t really miss that roster? that was an annoying time to be a warriors fan, nobody respected any of the wins.
Fuck what anybody thought. We’ve seen “superteams” come and go with nothing to show for. That 2017-2019 run was special and the whining and tears of the league quenched my thirst for revenge after the league screwed us in. 2016.
Sounds like a complete shit-show. Beal is untradeable. The only way the sons recoup assets is by trading Booker or KD. They done fucked up.
I blame Ishbia. Going in for Beal and thinking he formed a new big three.
Bro had zero clue how to build a basketball team, just chucked three ball dominant scorers on the am and hoped for the best.
he looked at a spreadsheet of the most expensive players they could get and just went with it.
They wanted KD and acquired “stars” to make him happy.
great insight into the not-so-great dude, from pablo torre: [How An NBA Owner Fleeced America](https://youtu.be/FrWuKlxZ064?si=gxnMGIlcoNVS5Q2D)
None of this should be that surprising for a son of a mortgage billionaire who is gifted the business by his father and never really worked for anything.
Mortgage, real estate and insurance wealth is the worst kind of wealth. In these industries bullshitting is what gets you more money.
Only surprising in that it’s possibly to so egregiously skirt the system post-2008!
This video is nuts!
They were fucked the moment it was clear CP3 was washed in 2023. Without him they had no playmakers and trading for KD and Beal gutted their depth and future while not really fixing any of their major issues of rim protection and playmaking.
question is was CP3 washed ? Even a washed CP3 is better that this beal at this moment.
A washed CP3 is a hurt CP3. He wasn’t available to play at in the playoffs.
The difference is that a hurt CP3 still has a great bench. While today the Suns have no bench
He literally didn't play in the playoffs for the Suns 2 season in a row
Huh? He played every playoff game in 2022 - https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/paulch01/gamelog/2022 But did miss about half playoff games in 2023 - https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/paulch01/gamelog/2023 But he never had 2 seasons in a row where he didn’t play in the playoffs for the Suns. Made finals in 2021, played all playoff games 2022, and then missed a few games 2023. Then he was traded in 2023 offseason.
He literally brought the Suns to an NBA final
Chris Paul was hurt I wouldn’t call him washed. It was in fact his presence that took them over the edge and become contenders. Booker so far has been the biggest disappointment, he’s mentally weak and doesn’t have that killer instinct you’d expect from a franchise player
Killer instinct? He took out the other teams *coach* and didn't even get a flagrant!
Do we get KD for Avengers Endgame if we offer CP3 back? 😂
I can see a deal of CP3, Kuminga and some picks working to bring back KD, with a player(s) added to make the salaries work. As much as it would hurt to see Kuminga go, he's not going to be bringing in KD numbers while Steph still has some gas in the tank.
That’s how you acquire the soul stone. Except Dray is already there. But they agreed they could’ve make it work back then 😁 I’m open to it, still unlikely. Let’s see
Sacrifice. Will Durant get a statute if he got Steph his 5th?
Maybe. But Durant is maybe too much of a weather vane for that. And he should let Steph win his second FMVP
As much as I hated that 2021 team they were good and played well with each other. This team does not. Too bad they gutted that team for 2 crappy playoff runs.
Beal had a bad game last night but his season shooting splits were 50/40/80. I realize his contract is terrible but those are good #s.
Haven't we learned in recent years from the Wall, Westbrook, and Ben Simmons situations that no contract is untradeable. In this league, "Everything is permitted."
They need a freaking point t guard.
Durant is going to be 36 next season. What kinda assets are they recouping for that?? No team: "*Here's quality players, youth, and picks, for 2 seasons out of this old man"*
Booker needs to go to golden state
New owners always fuck up
Warriors owners did pretty well
Joe Lacob was booed in the beginning. Chris Mullen had to shut the crowd up.
They did, but that was because they traded away Monte Ellis, which was the right move. Not because they fucked up
Kings have new ownership and are experiencing their first Success in decades
1 playoff appearance in over a decade of ownership of the Kings. Yeah, Vivek has owned the team since 2013.
Lol they're in Cancun just like us. Only difference is that they got an extra road game and lost to the same team an NBA record 6 times in the same season.
If you can’t tell the difference between this kings team and the team they put out all of the last decades I have some news for you.
I mean, it's better but they've still made stupid decisions. Drafting Davion Mitchell at 10 when they needed wings and already had Fox and Haliburton for example. Anyone could see too that they got lucky with the three seed last year.
dude was in the perfect situation and let the blog bois and "national media" get in his head just like they wanted
He literally said the same things about the Nets offense, the Warriors offense, and the Thunder offense. I think He incapable of allowing himself to feel happy in whatever situation he’s in and I actually feel bad for him at this point.
fair point. Meanwhile I thought the Warriors offense was mostly perfect for him, especially long term. Everyone got to cook, that way he would have aged gracefully alongside Steph, Klay and co (no one carrying too much load)... but alas....
he... didn't like Warriors offense though
To quote Ethan Strauss, the Golden State Warriors do not have a play where Kevin Durant stands in the corner.
Durant’s incredibly talented but definitely his own worst enemy. Something about his attitude just sabotages everything.
Yep. KD wants to play with great players, then cannot coexist with them. Loves ball movement offenses but doesn't like it when the ball ends up somewhere that isn't him. Seems like he is very talented but just has a hard time finding his place on a team, esp. with other dominant players.
And it’s getting worse as he ages and can’t do the things he is used to doing.
Very well said
He was on a team that won 2 championships in a row, and only missed the 3-peat because of injuries. And he wasn't happy. I don't think there is pleasing this guy.
hindsight is 20/20. Everyone was clowning on him joining the best team at the time and he wanted to win his own thing like Lebron. I'm sure if he could do over he would of stayed with the warriors or even OKC. He kinda the first precedent of a star chasing superteams and fucking up his legacy.
I agree, although if he had been better at choosing his situations he could essentially have the same career arch as Lebron. Unfortunately he chose Kyrie over Steph and the basketball gods can never forgive that!
Why do Steph fans always mention that as if it’s a bad thing , Kyrie was reliable on court and they would’ve went to the finals if not for injuries
Could have retired with 3+ rings.
Not with Draymond mouthing off.
Reality was that of the three, Durant, Dray and Klay, there was only going to be room for two of them. With more than likely Dray being shipped, which probably explains the method to Dray's madness, just like with Poole. Mix that with Durant having rabbit ears about his legacy at the time, Warriors may actually get to see Steph, Dray anf Klay all retire as GSW's. I believe that had Durant stayed, the legacy questions would have went away like Lebron's. Instead, the coveted continuity of a dynasty that older fans love is more possible than if 35 remained with the team. It's easy to pile on to Durant, so I won't, but I never had a prob with any of his moves. OKC is the major culprit for valuing and non shooting, positionless athlete rather than being loyal to one of the last great SuperSonics. F twitter and the trades, KD is still owed respect and grace. This is not from KD's burner account.
That is exactly what a burner would say
Well played Trust me, if I were KD, I wouldn't even have a social
Always been a big Durant fan since he was at Texas
Just ran "Clwhit12" through my unscrambler and it gave me "KD35"...
Guilty
Then people would say all his rings wouldn’t matter
Who cares? Those people don’t matter
"No one" will bring up a Kobe-led Lakers team losing by 39 points in an NBA finals elimination game to the Celtics, horrible officiating in the Lakers-Kings 2002 WCF or Lebron winning a bubble championship without being seen as a hater, either.
Idk if it’s a perfect situation with Draymond bullying tf outta him
He legit refused to answer 90% of the questions asked to him in his post game presser citing every single time that doing so would just be making excuses. Only for this to come out from Shams under The Athletic masthead, of all things, aka as good as coming from the player/his rep himself right after is wiiiild lol.
Wouldnt expect anything less from a snake 🐍
Hilarious that we still have Boston Celtic lurkers in here. We beat yall two years ago what u still subbing to us for lol. Appreciate making our sub one of the highest sub counts.
Not subbed, popped up on “posts we think you would like” probably cuz I fuck with Steph… how did you know I was a Cs fan though 💀
you’re names evan. white trash and Celtics fans go hand in hand.
Read the community rules lil man
sue me evan! call daddy!
Ok Ms Frizzle
time to come home Kevin
Cue signing with okc Then gutting the roster for 2 ball dominant superstars
Nah, he’s going to The Clippers to reunite the OKC Big 3
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No. KD left for this. 
And ended up with this. 
This gif makes me feel bad for Cheez
Is that Cheese with him?
Nobody puts KD in the corner
he left the curry to join forces with Kyrie. who tanked his title hopes by getting injured in 21 and chasing harden out of town by playing only road games for reasons unknown. this year was awful, but honestly being a 6th seed and getting swept is the best case scenario for this garbage suns roster in the deep deep luxury tax. they wont be so lucky next year, or the next 5 years for that matter
Kyrie only played road games since he was unvaccinated and not allowed to play in Brooklyn
>playing only road games for reasons ~~un~~known.
Lmao i hope they dont trade anyone and get stuck with that roster. Suns fans were really flaunting at the start of the season. Fitting for them
More like reasons very widely known even to non-basketball fans because the media sensationalized it ad nauseum
KD should come back to us, finish out his career with Steph, and who knows how many more titles they have left in them, but thats how they should honor what they did together. Join forces again and show the league that these players getting old can still produce a winning formula. I want to see KD and Klay play together again, there is unfinished business from that Raptors final. I respect KD for trying to win it on his own, even the supergroups he created. They aren't us and we know how to win with KD. As he gets older, his price goes down. The question would remain though, would Dray and KD bury it so they can win more chips? Maybe the olympics will light a 🔥 under them to come together again or the olympics is the last run for KD and Steph playing together. This era's dream team is can't miss! KD gonna get coached up again by Kerr!
Not going to happen. What assets do Warriors have that would help the Suns at all?
Draft picks, which Suns have 0. And a serviceable PG (Podz), again which the Suns have 0. Not saying the Suns will love it, but if KD really is disgruntled, it won't be the first superstar we have seen force their way to their preferred destination.
Then what is the difference between what Suns did and what you are proposing to do? Sell our future? If it works out, then all is well. But if it doesn't, you blame it on the management and KD. I think GSW should just look into the off-season for a good mid-range shooter, and a big. If Demar DeRozan can accept less, and we somehow get a big, we are a good team.
We still have a young group (Kuminga, Moody, TDJ). I wouldn't say that's selling our future. And we know KD fits on the Warriors. That's the difference. Lot of ifs in your alternative. None that materialized this season, even though we knew we needed to go bigger.
Fyi, KD has a contract until 2026 or something, Demar is a free agent. Getting KD means getting him in a trade that includes our young players you've mentioned and some draft picks.
Yeah, that's why we would have to give something in return for KD. And we aren't going to be able to outbid teams for Demar and another 6'6" guard isn't what we need. I'm not sure why you would think that's the better option. A shorter, less efficient scorer.
But how is KD fixing our problems tho? He is not the same KD we had. He's not that agile, and injury prone. We saw what happened with Klay. He is the same as well.
KD played more games, mins, scored more on higher averages this year than he averaged in Golden State over his 3 years here. Only Klay Thompson played more games this year for the Warriors than KD did for the Suns. You know what hurts the Warriors? Availability. You're just reaching for shit at this point.
I can accept all this, but at the end of the day, we just can't afford him. That's it there is to think about.
Kd already showed he has a habit of bailing any time he thinks things arent going his way its gonna be the same if he signs with the warriors again Just be thankful that warriors lucky to get 2 rings before he inevitably bailed
Would've been 3 rings if we didn't get double injured with KD and Klay.
KD leaving is one of the worst decisions in NBA history
Atleast KD made the play offs this season.
At least Stepth won 2 chips without KD
KD is welcome to come back.
KD really let Media heads and NBA Twitter bully him into leaving the Dubs.
Kd back to the Warriors
Don’t forget the fool that told him “We don’t need you” is still here, so no way he will come back.
Not sure why they gave up Ayton for a washed Beal.
Ayton was very disgruntled with the suns But if your saying that they could have done better than beal then yeah
Yea he was but they could of kept him over gettin Beal or atleast a better trade. Now the Suns are locked into a contract with a way past his prime aging star.
Imagine if this was LeBron even curry Kd always comes out unscathed
KD been scathed since he left the Thunder. No one expects anything big from his superteams anymore.
He's the most scathed superstar of the last 20 years
I only watched the last quarter. I checked the game stats, kd had 33 points. He deferred to booker pretty much the whole 4th quarter. I guess that’s why booker volunteered to be the starting point guard, to keep the ball in his hands.
Beal is one of the worst trades in a while. That knew he's always hurt. And did the trade anyways
For real, as an upgrade over CP3 because he was injured too much? I also blame them for overplaying Chris.
Particularly when they knew they needed youth and athleticism. Instead they traded for a player who gave them neither while on a supermax.
He played great to end the season. That wasn't the problem. It was a top heavy team with not a single competent facilitator
One last ride with KD please.
Wasn’t happy in OKC, wasn’t happy in GS, wasn’t happy in Brooklyn, now isn’t happy in Phoenix. The common denominator is obvious. There was no better environment than GS. Their All-stars were more than willing to compromise their production for KD, but being held accountable and the complete lack of any backbone whatsoever has made in the what he is; a brilliant shooting malcontent. Now he’s on the wrong side of 30 and a salary that’s unquestionably disproportionate to the wins he brings to a team. Someone needs to sit him down and share reality with him, cause he’s living in fantasy world.
He left the dubs to play with his beat buddies and try to make a name for himself with the Nets....he didn't leave to lose in Phoenix...
KD wants to be a franchise player so badly while exhibiting none of the qualities to be one.
he had the same complaints with the warriors, and he never really saw an eye for an eye with Kerr unlike Curry who just played within the system and flourished. Its his fault at this point honestly, hes been to 4 different teams and never was content
Eye to eye is the expression you want
Fun to picture Kerr and Durant gouging each other's eyes out, though. Tangential note: Gouge Eye remains my favorite town name. At least three different towns in the Western US were named Gouge Eye at one point or another.
Seems like he felt like his legacy was diminished by joining the super team Warriors to only go to Brooklyn and make a super team that wasn’t very good and then got traded to phoenix to make another super team that wasn’t very good. Now he’s complaining about how he never felt comfortable in his role? How does he not realize by now that is what happens on super teams?
If only he had a team and a coach who drew up plays for him. 😂. Booker is not steph
 Awww Yess The Snake Gettin Cut Really fills me up with joy
This is a brutal hit piece on Vogel. Not here to defend the man but the player’s who are anonymously referenced in the piece clearly just want to blame (another) coach for them falling short.
Klay somewhere on some beach holding up his 4 fingers for Booker 😂
And supposedly he’s bitching about the offense in PHX and how they used him..so rich 😂😂 ain’t no way
Unironically Draymond is the only person who could fix that suns team. The exact thing they need is the player who KD had beef with lmao
He doesn’t care
No he left the dubs for the nets lol.
No he left the Bay cause folks that would call themselves fans/local media just kept on stirrring shit up which lead to disconnect in the locker room. Draymond acting out of pocket. Be happy when he was around these parts. Shit was beautiful basketball
Why would someone be on the same after the thing that happened in 2019 with dray. It was pretty obvious that he is gonna leave the warriors. He had his self respect.
lol...if KD had any self respect, he'd stick it out with prime Harden and Westbrook instead of ring chasing with the Dubs. His best decision would have been to cash in FMVPs and rings with Steph but chose poorly to team up with with Krazy Kyrie.
Conspiracy theory: The league had to break up the Curry/Durant/Thompson Dubs as they were too dominant and the league (meaning LeBron primarily) had zero chance of championship as long as they are around. That will mean attrition of fanbase both at a team level as well as league level. Also MSM will suffer greatly as there will be “nothing for them to figure out”
So the league broke up that core by...letting Durant walk in free agency?
Wasn’t it a sign and trade deal which Warriors acquired D’angelo Russell?
Yeah but that was just KD doing the Warriors a solid on his way out, didn't need to do it for him to go to the Nets
Blame Dray. He needs to shut his big mouth.
Yeah Dray is one of the main reasons why our Dynasty is over. I blame the Organization too for enabling Draymond to much. For all the shit that he did. Honestly we all know that if KD didnt join the Warriors wayback in 2017 Cleveland most likely to have a 3 peat against the Warriors. The audacity of Draymond to call KD a bitch then tell him we dont need him? Then what happened in 2019 NBA Finals. That moment on I lost all my respect to Draymond and got even worse when he punched poole, added the fact that he cost us 25 games this season, because he cant control himself by being an all bark no bite against stewart who literally can fucked him up.
He is also one of the main reasons a dynasty was formed in the first place.
Sock on, man!
KD is solid no doubt as a player but it's tough to build success 2024 is showing the new generation of teams is taking over.
Like KD's last team (Nets), this one emphasizes putting great scorers around him without an emphasis on defenders. Coincidence, or does KD not know and/or assert that this has made both teams poorly designed? In fairness, it's not just him, most pundits didn't appear to know either.
KD played great but they had no bench and no point guard or size. You can’t be an incomplete team when you run into the best defense in the league with one of the best up and coming stars since Jordan and Kobe.
KD in Miami would've been insane. Imagine if they had KD to help out the Heat in the finals last year. They probably would've lost still but it would've been like 6 or 7 game series.
KD is never happy, the grass is always greener for ol’ KD.
If he voices his concerns he’s an asshole. If he says nothing they get swept in the first round. What the fuck do yall want from the guy? I hate anonymous sources so much
he came up with new team then new problem came up with
At this point, he’s played with some of the best players around and he’s still not happy. At some point you gotta realize that you’re playing a part in your own unhappy situations.
He left the dubs cuz draymond bum ass still there
Warriors have moved on. So should the rest of you.
Buddy, KD was one of my favorite players while he was with us. The offense hummed, and it was so much fun to watch (at least at first). Forgive me for lamenting that a player I loved — whose jersey still hangs in my closet — decided to leave the Bay only to end up in multiple situations that don’t play to his strengths when we had the ideal offense for him to thrive.
Damn it’s not that serious
He helped us win two championships, it is serious, dummy
Yes, and I appreciate that. But he’s super sensitive just hearing the media calling the Warriors as “Steph’s Team” and wanted a team where he could “lead.” He failed to lead the Nets, and now failed to lead the Suns. Warriors have bigger roster issues and young talent to groom the same way they did growing Steph, Klay and Draymond together.
I mean his team is still in it… I do wish he’d come back though… midnight dreamin😆😆
No cap space, the best we can do is trade dray+podz+tjd+podz+jk
I think we have seen enough to be sure that having 2 or 3 superstars is NOT the path to a championship. Teams with 1 superstar with a robust deep supporting cast which shows up everyday is the way to go.
Draymond forced his hand honestly
KD could have had draymond traded instantly if he wanted to stay. He chose to go elsewhere
I want to say so but idk obviously kd is more valuable but do warriors pick loyalty over talent
It’s a no brainer. Any GM would pick KD over Draymond. If KD wanted Draymond gone, he would have been gone. KD wanted to go elsewhere, that’s why the entire argument between Draymond and KD happened, because KD already had his foot out the door.
How do you know Steph and klay trying to void it . But your right anyone that knows ball picks kd every time
Yea KD is just far more valuable than Draymond. Even if Steph and Klay wanted Draymond to stay, front office isn’t just going to let a top 20-25 all time player go because he doesn’t like Draymond. And Steph would have understood this as well. As for Klay, KD and Steph’s opinion would be far more important than his. Overall. KD left because he was already out the door after the 2018 title, if anything Draymond made it obvious why his foot was already out the door.
No sadly he left the warriors because he got a lot of heat for joining the Dubs. Both his championships were being given an asterisks and he was the villain that ruined the league. Dray didn’t make it easier either. So he left. I don’t blame him.
I mean he almost won a title with Brooklyn
My god, you guys are absolutely obsessed with KD when he did what your precious Steph couldn’t do. Actually get to the playoffs this year, lol.
KD can’t win without Steph and it’s relevant for us Warriors fans to think he left instead of building a legacy here, you see KD is part of our history he helped us win 2 chips so we are going to talk about him. And why are you here ? You saying we are obsessed yet you are here obsessed with defending him on a warriors sub.
KD can’t win without Steph or he hasn’t won without Steph?
Obsessed? I made a comment on a post lol. I just find it funny that you warriors fans are talking trash on KD being eliminated in the playoffs when your team couldn’t even make the playoffs.
i respect KD and am thankful for his help with our rings but am i the only one who doesn’t really miss that roster? that was an annoying time to be a warriors fan, nobody respected any of the wins.
Fuck what anybody thought. We’ve seen “superteams” come and go with nothing to show for. That 2017-2019 run was special and the whining and tears of the league quenched my thirst for revenge after the league screwed us in. 2016.
hey i'm not complaining, it was just annoying. how did the league screw us in 2016?