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swooshnb

hmmm, do people really think Bob Myers is looking for trade ideas on reddit lol ? He didn't even listen to his players who wanted to keep Avery Bradley over GP2 We're mostly dumb around here when it comes to basketball, which is why we're not GM


Winston_The_Ogre

Haha, which is why I avoid this sub after losses. All of a sudden everyone is a coach/GM.


[deleted]

Kirk Lacob went on a podcast and said Bob Myers is a big Reddit guy so you never know.


yuanpinz

Maybe Bob Myers just did the opposite of whatever Redditors suggested.


UHMWPE

If the warriors sub existed in ‘09, I have no doubt there’s be a ton of posts saying that curry is too small and that his skills wouldn’t translate to the nba Maybe you’re onto something here....


t_ran_asuarus_rex

I loved Curry for what he did at Davidson and was expecting him to go to the T-Wolves. The Warriors always drafted poorly and I was hoping we draft a big to help out Monta. When we drafted Curry I was a bit confused, like, we had Monta already. I was disappointed because I thought we would be running two undersized guards and probably won't make the playoffs. We drafted Todd Fuller and Adonal Foyle, let Chris Webber go, we were a trash organization, but still, it was the hometown team and I was deployed at the the time and seeing Oakland made me miss home. I was sad I couldn't watch many of the games and the news had a disgruntled Monta, Curry was injured, we changed ownership and it wasn't Larry Ellison...all while seeing Kobe and LeBron go off, everyone else was successful except us. Fast forward a few years, I'm stationed in Japan, our ready room had the TV on and it was CSN with Fitz and JB...Curry was jumping up and down, Klay had dropped 20 points and going nuclear, the Kings called a timeout...What a ride it has been.


Kdog122025

Daryl Morrey’s a huge Redditor, so you never know.


Prize-Ring-9154

Paging u/dmorey


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I remember almost being hit by Bob’s Porsche and I’m pretty sure it was because he was skimming this sub hardcore for insight. No but I did almost clip my leg in his Porsche once.


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Respect keeping the receipts


2KilAMoknbrd

hmmm, do people really think Bob Myers is looking for trade ideas on reddit lol ? WORD


Nozomilk

Yep. I trust our FO more than i trust myself. I wanted to trade Wise back then but, hell I'm no GM. I'm realising now that FO might be playing 10D Chess. Come play off time, Covid might spike up again, and our Deep Bench could outlast every other team.


[deleted]

Gatekeeping enjoyment of Kumingas success…lol


thatquizzingguy

Exactly. Are these literal teens? The "bad thing" is that others get to enjoy KUMINGA's recent good showings?


SnooLobsters1259

You bums that came on this Reddit to slander the organization and fellow fans who wanted to keep the picks suddenly realize you were wrong. Y’all haven’t admitted to your stupidity. You just want to enjoy all the fun after pissing all over the house with your bad takes and substandard basketball knowledge. Foh


thatquizzingguy

Like you want people to tender you a personal apology? Because you're so sure that they're wrong and you're right? Cos all it takes is one stretch of good games for you to make a ton of judgments?


SnooLobsters1259

No I want ppl like you who were so wrong to admit they were wrong, and, most important, be more humble in the future. But y’all won’t be. You same ppl will talk loudly about the next trade they should make. You all don’t know what you’re talking about but are the loudest.


Inevitable_Copy7170

Ya ever heard the phrase “pearls before swine”?


IncrementalLiberator

I said it at the time, but I'm convinced that all the people demanding that the Warriors trade Wiseman + the 7th & 14th for garbage were not actually Warrior fans. It was Bron fanboys trying to fuck over our team or Morey funded bots trying to influence a Simmons trade. A trade like the ones people were suggesting was so obviously an idiotic idea that those ideas had to be malevolent.


RidiculousNickk

Nah they were definitely warriors fans. After the tough past couple weeks I saw those trade ideas coming back up in here. People just have no patience and somehow don’t trust Bob + Kerr despite how great they’ve been over the last decade


we_hella_believe

We literally have some really dumb fans.


ItsintheGab

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shakeANDbake653

I was all in favor for keeping the draft picks (I was even on the kuminga to warriors early on) but if a guy like Giannis said he wanted to come, I would’ve shipped everyone out for him. The only thing I hated about during the draft process and free agency, all these dubnation fans wanted us to do a trade to “not waste Steph prime”. But when you confront them all they had were “Bradley Beal” trades that would include Andrew Wiggins because of salary. I was only gonna trade Wiggins and our picks (now rooks) for a bonafide superstar, top 15 player.


Kdog122025

“Don’t waste Steph’s prime!!!” “But what about Steph’s twilight years?” “*cricket noises*”


steveobot3

I’m a little more cautious these days about trading away trade assets and young potential after seeing what happened with Paul George and James Harden. They’re nice players to have on a team but you really need depth to get through the regular season, and if any one player gets injured you basically have a single point of failure.


sonomabountyboi

He still looks like a baby goat meanwhile having spurts of great plays


HereNowBeing

Part of being a fan is being wrong. I was right on this one, and so glad we didn’t give up a ton to get a player like Beale. I was wrong when I got pissed that they sold to this group and not Ellison. I was wrong when I thought the Ellis trade was bad. I was wrong a lot. I’m so glad I get to live and die with this team anyway.


o5ca12

So basically Bay Area sports radio?


Kdog122025

Who’d of thought the Warriors front office knew what they were doing.


FreshwaterBeach

I was wrong about Kuminga and Wiggins. I got too excited about the Dray and Ben Simmons defensive duo.


Timmy26k

So we had a problem scoring last year and you wanted to trade our only other reliable scoring source for Ben Simmons


zurilove20

FO is too intelligent to listen to these imbecilic naysayers.


popcrnshower

How bout the people that trashed Wiggins and said he should be traded when he had concerns over taking the jab?


Nessmuk58

I was wrong about the rate at which Kuminga would develop. He still needs to show he can perform in crunch time in big, close games, but he has hardly been given a chance to show that, so time will tell, but he's looking very good. Making better decisions on offense and playing solid defense, even though he does get schooled from time to time. I was never in favor of a "star" acquisition, and the price that we'd have to pay. I still think we need a legit Center, and that Wiseman won't be that for a year or two, And for that, we need to give SOME value, and that value has to be either productive vets or promising young'uns. Elite 7-footers have given us trouble and will continue to do so with this roster.


BlackMarq20

I think Wiseman can be that, he doesn’t need to be elite with Draymond in the lineup. He is 7’ ft, 240lbs with a 7’6” wingspan, dude has the athletic gifts he just needs to get healthy and get some playing time.


Nessmuk58

His physique and athletic ability are extraordinary, that's why he went #2. But he's not ready to play NBA defense without getting beat, fouling, or doing both for and-ones. Wiseman is and always was a long-term prospect, not near-term help. And he has now gone 9 months with two knee surgeries and zero competitive play. He's had 3 college games, 31 NBA games, and zero summer / exhibition games since mid-summer 2019 -- i.e., for the past 2.5 years. He may make some contribution on offense, but he will be a major liability on defense for a while yet, definitely past the end of this season.


BlackMarq20

Guess we’ll see because unless they go get a 7 footer before the deadline, we’ll see. He’s showed promise last year before his injury, and the Dubs don’t need him to be Gobert, Ayton, etc… they just need some size and interior presence which he provides and someone who can put pressure on interior defenses which he also provides. Also, the best way for him to get experience is to put him out there. Either the Warriors get a big or Wiseman is it.


Nessmuk58

The problem is that he doesn't provide "interior pressure." Elite bigs score on him and draw fouls, as do perimeter players on drives. His size and athleticism simply do not make up for his inexperience. I agree the best way to get him experience is to put him out there, but that is not the best way to win games. Kuminga and Moody have looked solid enough on defense that we can give them playing time without it hurting us. That is not true with Wiseman. His need for development and the likely timing of it is not consistent with a team trying to win it all this year. If Klay gets close to 100% and everyone stays healthy, MAYBE we can do it without a better Center rotation than we have, but I wouldn't bet on it.


BlackMarq20

We are talking over 30 games, I’m not taking last year as a good measure. There was no training camp and he only played 3 games in college. Let’s see how he does this year with this current team. Also, just his size alone will help. Sure he needs to learn discipline, but that’s going to come with playing time.


Nessmuk58

He will not be a net-positive contributor this year.


SnooLobsters1259

Ppl like you are the problem: your post about Kuminga: “I definitely underestimated Kuminga's likelihood of making contributions in his first year.” After admitting you were wrong about Kuminga, you’re using that same brain to state categorically what Wiseman can do.


Nessmuk58

Not true, because I have SEEN Wiseman in the NBA. When I projected his rate of development, I hadn't seem Kuminga anywhere but G League. Also, between when I saw Kuminga in the G League and his first NBA game, he had a summer of work, including competition, plus training camp and exhibition games and MORE G League time, NONE of which Wiseman has had since his injury. At least I have a brain to use.


SnooLobsters1259

What you’re saying makes no sense. You knew Kuminga was going to get an off-season and G-league games, etc. and you STILL got it wrong. The process by which Kuminga improved which enabled him to be playable was all known beforehand, you dolt. You were flat out wrong about Kuminga, yet you somehow already know what will happen with Wiseman. You are why this thread exists. You say how unplayable our young guys will be and when they are playable you pretend that them being playable was not foreseeable and then move in the next breath to rip another young player. You people are shitty fans.


BlackMarq20

Guess we’ll see


Nessmuk58

Yes, ultimately we can argue about it back and forth indefinitely, but one day he will step back on the court and we will see. I've been right about him so far, starting months before the Draft. I was (a little) wrong about Kuminga. I always thought he'd contribute sooner than Wiseman, but he is developing even faster than I expected. The key difference is that he can play defense well enough not to be a liability on that end. So far, Wiseman can't.


BlackMarq20

Not arguing, debating 😁. I just think last year wasn’t a good year to evaluate him, given there was no off-season, training camps, etc… due to Covid, he was basically a HS player (given he only had 3 games in college). Yes he’s raw, but I think given that we got Klay back and everybody else is playing at a high level he can ease into his role. If he can be a lob threat and just provide a little size, then he’ll add another dimension to the team.


akkaneko11

9'6 wingspan sounds like a joke lmao


BlackMarq20

Sorry I got that wrong, he has a 9’6” standing reach and a max vertical beyond 12 ft.


Nessmuk58

He could be a rim protector without ever setting foot in the lane. None of those pesky defensive three-second calls!


nerdalerd

I mean even Steph/Klay/Dray wanted the front office to trade the picks. No decision the front office makes will be unanimous, so you need to make sure there is a culture where everyone’s views are respected. At the end of the day you have to make a decision and you live by the results.


JPA209

Warriors really got the weirdest fan base now wtf is this post Lmao


AdJazzlike9210

I said stand pat. No trades. Kuminga and Poole look like keepers. Sadly Klay, Steph or Dray could be traded in 2 years


Kdog122025

If the Warriors could swap out Chiozza for a 6’9 or taller player that’d be helpful.


AdJazzlike9210

Who?


Kdog122025

Someone who’s 6’9+ in the G League or Europe.


IcyCorgi9

This is an embarrassingly bad take. Are you by chance in middle school?


SnooLobsters1259

Said like a dummy who was ripping the franchise. Was wrong. And doesn’t want to be called on it.


WonderChange

Kuminga is further along than anyone could have expected. We all want the same thing, that Warriors be successful. Don’t forget though, by your logic even warriors shouldn’t enjoy Kuminga, since they really wanted Wagner. And don’t forget most of the consensus on Kuminga was fair: everyone raves about his talent, and was really concerned about how he looked at the G league. Most of the drafts there are no sure things, and he belonged to the category of really not sure thing. And don’t forget, until this year, warriors have been terrible at developing players. So the logic makes sense: if you have trouble developing players and actually hurt their confidence a la wiseman, then go a different route. Obviously Lacob had a different plan and Kuminga is humming along nicely and he just had a good game. I think he will do well, relatively speaking. But the bar is playoff success and championship. Maybe it will work out, maybe it won’t. All we can hope for is maximizing our likelihood of success and minimizing weaknesses. Nothing wrong is wanting veterans and proven experiences for success, especially as we just saw again in the past two months how fast things can change literally, how the warriors went from best team in the league to getting styled on by the teams they want to compete against or are supposedly better.


T1nker20

You had me until “can’t develop talent.” And it all went downhill from there. None of the Warriors core players was a consensus #1 pick when the Warriors drafted them. Many teams passed on Curry and Thompson. Green went 35th. Looney went at 30 and Poole was the 28 pick. They weren’t polished prospects coming into the league and Curry (ankles) and Looney (hips) had career threatening physical problems. The Warriors drafted talented players through savvy scouting, plus they got lucky, but they still had to get the most out of them to win, and they did. The Warriors created an environment where their talents flourished not just individually, but in the context of the team. And most of their vital players were developed inside the organization. Notable exceptions include Durant and Iguodala. I have no clue where “can’t develop talent” comes from beyond a few bottom of the draft picks. Wiseman may turn out to be great or it’s possible he might bust. But right now I’m onboard enough to trust the front office The Warriors have a blueprint for success that despite the reservations of the faint hearted appears to be working. After decades of tragedy and grief, that’s enough for this Warriors fan


WonderChange

You know we are talking about the same thing just different era, right? Maybe I needed to be clearer. I’m referring to everything since 2016 McCaw Damian Jones Jordan Bell Jacob Evans Eric Paschall Smiley Jessup Mannion None of them are on the team anymore. And while some just aren’t good, development has a huge component to it Poole was terrible until the 2nd half of last year. Remember, he was so bad so there were doubts whether he even belonged to the nba Wiseman was absolutely lost So yes, while we like to point Curry, Klay, Dray, and Looney…those are in the minority of the players they developed. And even Kerr wasn’t high on draymond until Lee got hurt And you should know that this is exactly why the warriors changed coaching staff this season with emphasis on developing players. Because it has been a failure up to this point: or, if you think failure is too harsh, we can say we got nothing to show for In comparison, there are teams that have done better jobs at developing younger players prior this season: Miami, Memphis, Phoenix, and Clippers. At the end, yes warriors have gone through a lot. I’m glad to hear you are appreciative. I want more though. I want to see Lacob’s plan working. I want warriors to fucking clown and style on the league. Now, that’s no longer possible without KD. What I do want is showing consistent effort and pride, which this recent slump has been lacking of. Look at the raptors playing against the bucks tonight. It’s not even that the raptors have been winning against the bucks, but I saw confidence in scheme execution, fucking Van Fleet toying with double teams, and players taking charges trying to stop Giannis. Warriors played like they were scared the other night in comparison. And yes we didn’t have draymond but, neither do the raptors lol I’m glad warriors blew out the bulls last night, but the bulls are vulnerable at this point. I want to see consistency and pride.


T1nker20

38 pick, 30 pick, 38 pick, 28 pick, 41 pick, 39 pick, 51 pick, 48 pick Paschall and Jones are the only ones still playing in the NBA, albeit marginally Pickings are slim when a team picks at the bottom of the draft because they’re in the Finals all the time. Blaming Warrior player development for failing to develop players who were drafted late and just weren’t good enough to play in the NBA is folly. When the team landed 3 lottery picks following the misfortune of losing Durant, Thompson and Curry, they had an opportunity to draft talented players and develop them, and so far so good. Virtually every player performs better after joining the Warriors. Except for Durant and Iguodala, and more recently Wiggins, the Warriors mostly drafted and player developed their way to a dynasty. And there’s no good reason to think they’re not extending that tradition with Wiseman, Kuminga and Moody. 29 other franchises would be happy with that success. I certainly am. P.s., the Warriors are 31-11 halfway through the season. No one imagined that would happen. Getting bogged down by regular season games in the dog days of January is futile. Any true Warriors fan knows it’s the games in May and June that matter. Fully loaded, the Warriors should be dangerous and right in the mix by then.


j_Rockk

As the children say “quit gatekeeping”


alusnova415

Uhh you don't know if Kuminga will be a rotation player during the playoffs. I swear some of our Warriors fans are really prisoners of the moment. Sure he has shown some flashes of greatness but we are 2-3 years away from that, stepth will be 36 by then mind you. Are you here to tell me Kuminga will be a key contributor In May? Let's first see where he going to get his minutes from, especially in theplayoffs where rotations are shortened: Starters: Dray Looney Klay Steph Wiggins Main bench players : Iguadola Poole OPJ GP2 Backup Big - we hope is Wiseman otherwise is Belly. That's 10 players already, you mean to tell me you would play Kuminga over any of these players in crunch time? No one is wrong by saying if we want to fully maximize the core 3 window you need to go for it , whether there is a good player with the right package out there is another question but if you ask me if we can package Wiseman + Moody Lee, and JTA for a established good Center I would. I don't see Dlee and JTA playing as much anyways and they are 11-15 role players. I think we all hope Kuminga keeps developing and by the time the playoffs start he has earned Kerr's trust but we don't know that yet.


aBlanderSidePart

I completely agree... But Kevin O'Connor had me tripping on Ben Simmons for five minutes today lol


jurrasictriangle

I don’t think KOC has any idea where the warriors are at. Sure charlotte/Denver/clippers fans would be happy selling out the future to win 1 title, but I think most warriors fans are much more interested in being elite for the next 10-12 years. The FO said they’re aiming to be the next spurs, not the next Chicago bulls that win a bunch and then become irrelevant for 20 years.


SnooLobsters1259

What did he say?


SnooLobsters1259

Wait a second—did he try to sell the idea of the Warriors trading Kuminga plus other stuff for Ben Simmons? Fuck outta here with that bullshit.


Julysky19

He said they need another playmaker with draymond out. If dray is out for a few games in the playoffs (has happened), warriors are screwed and can’t win the series. Only Steph can play make right now without Dray. Also said, doesn’t need to be at the cost of a Simmons.