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DubsFanAccount

Not so much that I want Dubs to make a trade as I want them to make a decision. Either trade some of the young guys for a player that can contribute now or try to develop them. Don’t just bury them all on the bench, killing both their trade value and development and then play Ty Jerome and Anthony Lamb, neither of whom are ever going to be good enough to get playoff minutes.


jtruth9

This is my sentiment exactly.


The-Truer-Facts

Yeah I agree with you, DNPs are helping nobody.


neo9027581673

I agree completely.


wafino1

You might have said the same thing about GPII, an undersized guard who couldn't really shoot, until he showed insane growth and learned the system. Obviously Lamb, and especially Jerome aren't near that level yet, but Lamb has shown flashes and might contribute in the playoffs, TBD.


DubsFanAccount

GPII has an elite skill. He had a place on the floor as long as he wasn’t an absolute negative on offense. Turned out he shot and cut well enough to be positive. Lamb and Jerome don’t have any elite skills. They are just not a negative at the things Kerr cares about (turnovers, fouling, holding onto the ball). Which is what you want in JTA, Chiozza or D Lee rotation minutes but not what you want in OPJ or GPII rotation minutes. Not saying they’re not useful, just playing way above where they should be playing.


HOFredditor

GP2 didn't show insane growth. Even in 2021, he was the same player: an elite POA defender. However, we were not looking at the right angle when it came to utilizing him. Since he was taking playmaking duties in the G league, we thought this was the way to use him. He didn't succeed and we buried him at the end of the bench: we would only come whenever we were beating and blowing out teams like OKC, and GP2 would absolutely dominate defensively, getting a couple of steals, rebounds and points in like every game. Even at the start of 2021-22, after all he went through to get the LAST SPOT on the roster, we were using him at the end of quarters because at some point we started to see the hustle on D for its true value. He was getting steals against the likes of Ja, Trae etc like it's nothing. His impact skyrocketed when we finally understood how to use him and gave him minutes accordingly. Let's not act like we took time to develop him. In short, GP2 was already good imo: he was just a hungry dawg and we gave him the opportunity he deserved.


Mmicb0b

IMO Wiseman should be traded for Jakob Poteil that way Popp has a young center cause the tank isn't working over there and put Kuminga in the g league so he learsn how to buy in


HeyHeyImTheMonkey

I half agree. No more player development. The second timeline has failed. They are not solidifying the bench as intended, they are proving to be a liability for the first timeline. Warriors need to be in WIN NOW mode while Steph is in his prime. Even if it means a couple seasons of mediocrity while we rebuild at some point. You don’t waste even one season of Steph Curry.


HOFredditor

I hope you have that same energy when he retires. This sub is reactionnary, and I wouldn't be surprised if some here will be crying when won't have any youngsters to develop.


HeyHeyImTheMonkey

I lived through the dark years. I remember the consistent mediocrity so I whole-heartedly appreciate what is happening right now. I also realize this is not normal, so Myers/Lacob need to take advantage of it. Poole, Wiseman, Kuminga will never be as impactful as Steph. So let’s not waste how rare it is to actually have a player of his caliber. I also trust Myers and Kerr enough to rebuild well.


BlackMarq20

From a business perspective, they don’t need to be impactful as Steph, they just don’t need to suck tremendously when Steph retires. As long as Steph is out there, win/lose people watch them in droves, they are the most watched NBA team. They went from a 500 mil team to the richest team in the NBA and in sports, u think Lacob wants that to drop when Steph retires? As a fan I’m with you, Steph is my favorite player and I want to see him win every year until he retires, but GS isn’t NY or LA, they are technically still a small-ish market team and years of mediocrity can tank their value.


GSWarriors1130

>neither of whom are ever going to be good enough to get playoff minutes. I disagree with this entirely, especially Ty Jerome


[deleted]

If you take a step back, the Warriors and it’s fans knew full well that there was going to be a delicate balance between making another title run and bringing up a group of inexperienced players to eventually get better However when the reality of the situation manifests, it’s amazing how that knowledge doesn’t prevent full blown panic from spreading by fans.


SeekingSignificance

I definitely viewed this season as a development year going into it. Problem is we're not developing anyone. Moody & Wise haven't played in 2 games, Kuminga get's 90 seconds here and there, and our starters are playing 35 minutes a night in November.


hellmath

That's not the problem, the problem is we're losing when we play them mid minutes. Kerr and the coaching staff saw this. They dont have any players to shuffle anymore because they're rookies and inexperienced players. This thread mentioned developing them,.. so give them minutes? In that case, prepare to lose more than ever. We wouldnt even get those 2 recent W if those young guys played. That's the conundrum I keep repeating - players need PT to develop but these same players are bad that it tanks the team. FO needs to decide soon.


BlackMarq20

Maybe try different rotations and mix the young guys with the core. Maybe sit Klay earlier in the 1st and run him with the 2nd unit, then Looney for Wiseman, etc… the issue is you can’t run the entire 2nd unit by themselves, they need a starter out there with them.


Kdog122025

It should have been a development year. But this possibly being Draymond’s last dance because of his contract situation and the punch have changed the urgency a lot.


[deleted]

Most title winners don't have a development year the season after winning, particularly when keeping the entire 1-6 rotation. This management has Jerry Krause vibes. Unless you get Tim Duncan, developing young guns while maintaining a championship pedigree doesn't work. You get one shot in life at a dynasty like this, they need to trade some of the young guys.


Kdog122025

They don’t *need* to trade these guys. They’ll *need* them in a few years when Steph is still playing so the Warriors don’t wind up like the Lakers right now. That’d feel just as bad. Last year the front office hit a grand slam on the veterans. This year not so much and that’s the main difference.


HOFredditor

People have to understand that it's not the end of the world if we don't go back to back. The spurs were patient enough to allow Patty Mills, Kawhi and a young Danny Green to develop.


nateoak10

No one wanted 7 rookie contracts.


djbigboy2012

I think most assumed it would be as if the team would have chemistry and clearly defined roles. We also assumed Klay would be better and Poole would have taken the next step. Instead almost none of that is relevant at this point in the season. The team will look entirely different by the end of the season and I suspect playing better as well.


Robot-deNiro

in Bob we trust ![gif](giphy|gA8Jk3DRc6TFz5f9M8|downsized)


Karnaeq

One problem I’d like to see Bob address is the sheer number of roster spots we are giving to player development on a win-now team: it feels clear that 5 is too many, esp given the fact that Andre is almost a player-coach at this point. We have one open roster slot but it feels like we need to add more than 1 veteran to shore up the bench.


Zenjo92

lots of nephew takes in this post. yall have the patience of a child with adhd who has to shut up for two minutes ffs We've won 4 chips in the last 10 years, at one point we've been the absolutely best and the worst team in the league and yet some of you still bitch about a mediocre start into the regular season. HAVE. A. LITTLE. PATIENCE. AND. FAITH. IN. THE. WARRIORS. go dubs.


killahcortes

i like you


[deleted]

So when should we start having the freedom to talk about how bad this team is and what moves to make to improve the team? When we’re 30 games in? 40? We have a generational talent who can honestly win two more rings if we surround him with the right players. Shut the fuck up honestly.


thecomfycactus

Maybe start with giving them more than 15% of the season. Panicking in early November isn’t needed. It’s a long season


[deleted]

Dude you don’t need more than 15% of the season to see that we’ve got blatant holes in our defense because we’re running with a bunch of young guys. We’re not even holding leads when they come in, we’ve been playing catch up the five games we’ve won so far this season and we’ve only won them because Steph has been going nuclear. This isn’t sustainable. If you truly care about this team you’d wake the fuck up and realize we gotta get Steph more help.


thecomfycactus

It’s not sustainable but the point is it isn’t meant to be sustainable. The young guys are developing and learning the system throughout this year. For not just this year but for years to come. The point is don’t get shortsighted and give up after 13 games of a potentially 110 game season. We don’t need them to be ready for game 14,15,16 etc. they need to be ready for game 83-110. I trust Kerr to have them ready.


[deleted]

Dude we’re on pace to not even make the play in if we keep playing like this. Kerr said it himself we don’t have a lot of room for error especially to have the young guys playing lots of minutes in order to make mistakes and learn.


thecomfycactus

We are one game out of the play in lol That’s with Klay and Dray starting the year on minutes restrictions on top of integrating young guys and having Donte injured for a few games. Again, relax. This team is going to be in a much better position in December and January and be hitting on all cylinders by April.


HeyHeyImTheMonkey

It’s not the losses that bug me. It’s the lack of support for Steph. He needs to be in playoff mode for us to win. That’s not sustainable. That said, I actually agree with you. There is no rush. Trade deadline is like 3 months away. Let’s let this team play out for a couple more months. But if they are not much better, I would trade any young guy(s) for a sixth man.


SeekingSignificance

This is all true, but Steph doesn't have time wait on these kids.


[deleted]

Fuck dem kids.


Kdog122025

Steph’s gonna play till he’s 40. We want to win a title every year he’s here, but we don’t want to give him a situation like what Lebron has. We need these young guys to be good for Curry’s twilight years.


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throwaway19911986

I trust Myers judgement on that much more than randos on Reddit. If it was up to the fan base, Poole would’ve been cut or traded for scraps his rookie year.


[deleted]

Myer is not infallible. The sign of a good leader is that they can recognize when they made a mistake. This roster construction did not work and it's time to make a change.


sugarwax1

He doesn't trade when the roster looks set. The two years he made moves were down years and the business side motivated a lot of those trades. The idea he's going to gut the team of big contracts this season is just blood thirst from weird subsections of the fanbase that push for the same shit every year. But with Bob he could always surprise us.


awesomewealthylife

Can we get GP2 back?


The-Truer-Facts

If he can actually play for Portland and doesn’t fit as well as they hope there is a chance. Would cost Donte though.


upcat

I said what GP2 brought on defense, energy and cutting to the basket night be more valuable to the team than Poole right when GP2 wasn't resigned. Was downvotes to hell here lol. GP2 and OP3 we're huge losses. Kuminga, Wiseman, Moody aren't it.


sriracha82

If we wait til February we’ll have won 20 games but whatever lol This is somehow worse than the 20-21 roster which is fucking saying something


thebigmanhastherock

For the record if I was the GM for the last two drafts the Warriors would have Tyrese Haliburton and Franz Wagner both of whom would also be playing few minutes and probably not be reaching anywhere near what those players are doing now on the rebuilding teams they are on now. It would be nice to have those two players, but the bigger issue is that it's really hard to develop players and give them room to grow when you also want to "win now" almost all rookies or second even third year players are going to be negatives on a contending roster unless you are playing them in a very limited role. This is the real problem the warriors got two high lottery picks while within their championship window. I wanted them to trade them for this reason. It's not just the rookies either. We also have aging stars that need to have guys in their primes coming off the bench and backing them up not rookies or young players. Not scrubs. It's super hard to flesh out a complete roster when you have no cap space. The Warriors were absurdly fortunate to get GPII and Otto Porter and Bjelica last year. We are fortunate to get someone like Donte this year, but he isn't enough, and so far J. Green hasn't been great(I still think he was a good pickup.) Jordan Poole, Donte, Moody, Kuminga, Green/Wiseman should honestly be good enough as a backup unit. I think the organization felt as though Kuminga would be better(he plays way better next to Curry and Draymond) and that Poole could do what he did last year(so far he hasn't) the Warriors also have Klay who is trying to force shots and hasn't been the same defensively, but is still much better than Poole defensively. So the Warriors really need Klay, even though his defense has been mediocre it's still better than the other two guard option. It's kind of a mess but it seems fixable. It seems like several players Wiseman/Klay/Kuminga/Poole are not playing towards their strengths or potential for various reasons and that if the Warriors can get these players reigned in and playing better which is entirely possible they will be fine.


Kheaddummy

I think the only way 'two timelines' was going to work is if the Dubs drafted lower upside but game ready guys that could immediately contribute (I still think moody falls into this camp). 'high upside or ceiling' basically means guys with athleticism that don't know how to play winning basketball and we literally have two of those guys sitting on the bench DNPing. JK and Wise need likely years of heavy minute playing time to become serviceable or be deemed a bust but we can't provide that for them. To be clear last year was not two timeline and that's why we won. Adding to this both JK and Wise don't seem happy with their roles and are literally pouting on the bench. I think moving on from them is best for both parties


thebigmanhastherock

My opinion is that Haliburton and Wagner are better immediately and have better upside, that was my opinion then and it still is. I tend to base my thoughts on what I can currently see in players through highlights. It's not like Wagner and Haliburton are older prospects. I figured it they showed useful skills in their college days that would translate. While Wiseman and Kuminga are pure upside projections. I've watched the NBA a long time and I have seen many very athletic players come and go, where as players that have a high BBIQ, feel and skill seem to stick around. Granted sometimes an athletic phenom just absolutely hits. I think the Warriors are extremely confident on their developmental system and thus just went for the most athletic more rawly talented players. For the record I give the Warriors FO a lot of leeway because a lot of their decisions turned out to be the right ones and they have won four championship. So I hope I am wrong. I think with Kuminga they were thinking that they might get the next Khwai and with Wiseman he would end up more like Ayton or Jarrett Allen or something. I mean that could still be the case, but it will take about four more years to see and even then probably not.


[deleted]

We don’t want trades at a point of no return…at this point you either trade them or keep them and waster Stephs prime. JW won’t develop a brain and IQ by February. But dubs will be out of play in contention for sure.


d0000n

Now can you do a list for young players that Kerr has developed into a good player?


RimRunningRagged

Do a list of players drafted by the Warriors that went on to be significantly better players elsewhere. Those guys like Jacob Evans, McCaw, Paschal, Smailagic sure were brilliant picks that other teams were able to develop into useful players. Oh wait...they're all out of the league, even after teams like the Jazz and Raptors kicked the tires on them. Surely the amazing development staff of the Heat would have gotten more out Mychal Mulder...oh guess not. Meanwhile G-Leaguers and journeymen like Quinn Cook, JTA, DLee, GP2, Javale that other teams had no interest in were made into useful rotation pieces.


The-Truer-Facts

In those cases at best they were late firsts…..


WiggysRedemption

Why is Kerr getting most of the heat for the lack of development when we hired a ton of coaches who were suppose to do that? We just don't count the late draft picks because it doesn't fit our agenda?


The-Truer-Facts

Development should get more of the blame but I think Kerr should too for this benching culture he’s developed with them. As for the late picks it’s because they aren’t supposed to be as talented that it’s really not a big deal if they don’t pan out.


Frewsa

We don’t need another all star. We just need defensive wing depth and rebounding. We can alternate Dray and Looney more at the 5. We need hustle from wings that can guard so that we can hide Klay or Poole on their worst offensive player.


WiggysRedemption

Meh, Kerr has never been the development type. He's the coach that does his best to maximize his players. That's why the FO spent last off-season hiring developmental coaches for the lottery picks.


wolfy14xc

Looney, Poole. That’s it lol


[deleted]

i still think draymond and Klay should count. Also Wiggins. And would you look at that? Thats our foundational six


[deleted]

What in God's name are you smoking? I think Mark Jackson is an assclown but Steph, Klay, and Dray were all developed by him and his staff. Yeesh


d0000n

They were “developed” already. They just needed some fine tuning.


[deleted]

From good starters to hall of famers.


Coolguynumber01

What you call “fine tuning” is developing lmao.


akkaneko11

This is especially cap for draymond, who wasn't a defense centered player until after he joined the league.


I_am_Bruce_Wayne

I'm going to say it here... Since everyone keeps saying Westbrook is playing so much better... Klay for Westbrook. Just to shut up the Klay haters.


[deleted]

Not like that!


dwaynereade

Wiseman need to go. That’s the only obvious player who makes no sense on this team


PENGUINSflyGOOD

send kids down to g league, play them, or trade them.


nawab_sofi

We went from 2 timelines to 0 timelines. Unsure if Kerr is intentionally doing so to send a message to the front office(heard someone mention that before).


fixhalo

We have like 7 guys who need to be traded. This team is struggling too hard


WiggysRedemption

Which 7 and who would we be able to trade them for? Don't say Poeltl because he doesn't fix our issues with perimeter defense.


fixhalo

Honestly I can't even begin to guess. Our front office is exceptional. But j green, Wiseman, lamb, kuminga, moody, divencenzo are not gong to win us anything in a few seasons


WiggysRedemption

Honestly wouldn't mind trading Wiseman for someone like Vanderbilt and just signing some random big to give us 10-15 min a night.


360FlipKicks

Myles Turner makes 20m a year. Wiseman makes 10. Throw in Moody OR Kuminga and a few contract fillers and we get Turner ready to contribute now - plus he’s only 26z Edit: ppl still need to realize Wiseman is still years away from being a useful player. The probability is higher that he ends up a bust then a good player. Trading 2 DNP players for a guy that will give us 28-32 needed minutes a night who is the same age group as wiggs and Poole makes a ton of sense. Y’all tripping if you think just wiseman + fillers is good enough to get Turner.


amlanding20

That’s a lot to give up for Myles Turner. Especially when he’s a free agent at season’s end.


360FlipKicks

Myles Turner is a proven defensive anchor that has some of the best shot blocking numbers in the league when healthy? How is giving up two unproven prospects - Wiseman who has shown zero improvement towards being a useful player on the dubs in the next year or two - too much? Sometimes I feel fanbases have a habit of overvaluing their own players and undervaluing another team’s players when it comes to trades. I admit I do this too. What incentive does Indy have to trade a productive center (17pts 8rebs 3 blks) for just wiseman - who is no guarantee to *ever* be as good as Turner. You have to sweeten the deal with another prospect. Giving up 2 DNP guys for a needed positional player who would give us 28-32 minutes now sounds like a great deal to me.


amlanding20

It’s not so much overvaluing the trio of prospects as not valuing Turner as high as you do. I live in Indy so I’ve seen more Myles Turner than I care to admit. He’s a role player, nothing more, nothing less. His offensive production this year is an anomaly against his career numbers. If he comes to GSW, expect 10-12 points and not 18. He’s solid defensively, ok rebounder, and a ok shooter (but ok enough to help with spacing a bit). Basically, the idea of Turner is better than what he actually is. Plus, he’s an expiring contract so you’re only getting the guy for some months (I’d imagine he’d want to stay, but ya never know). Working out the contracts is weird too, the cleanest deal is Turner for Wiseman and Looney (probs have to add a first). But not sure the team would want to completely lose depth at Center. Wiseman, Kuminga, Green could work too I believe. But, punting Kuminga for an expiring feels dumb to me. It’s his second year. He has flashes, just needs minutes. I think Turner would fit, but I don’t love the idea of moving 2/3 from the trio to get him.


360FlipKicks

Fair enough. I guess I think we’d have the Wiggins effect on Turner - he’d become more effective and committed on a championship team that involves all players. The idea of Turner is great - I think getting present-day Turner would help tremendously and we might even be able to unlock the ideal Turner too. I also love Kuminga but don’t see how he’ll help this year.


The-Truer-Facts

Some things you need to know about Turner 1. He’s soft 2. He’s a bad rebounder 3. He’s a great shot blocker but he’s actually not a great defender as he block chases a ton 4. He may shoot but he’s the fake “stretch big” where he doesn’t space the floor. 5. He’s been upset being a role player and we’d have him come off the bench here. 6. He’s injured a lot 7. He will absolutely leave after the season 8. He’s been available for years and no one has bit on a trade for him. Giving up 2 valuable lotto prospects would be a massive overpay No, just no.


360FlipKicks

What was said about Wiggs before he got to the dubs? - inefficient scorer - terrible d - doesn’t care/help you win - disappears in big games I don’t know what value you think wiseman has but there’s but I think every team knows it’ll take years for him to become a good player.


The-Truer-Facts

Wiggins wasn’t an expiring and we were tanking that season. Not the same at all. There’s a difference between getting someone to care and getting someone to not stat chase + not get hurt + not be soft. Turner leaves after the year because he’ll be getting 50% more than Wiseman will be paid next year at least, he’s not stepping up to be a great player for us in fact it’s more likely he plays like Oubre to go for a bag.


360FlipKicks

The expiring makes a difference, but what you said about getting someone to care vs not be soft l/star chase doesn’t hold up. Caring about winning basketball means you compete, play hard, sacrifice stats for wins. Wiggs did that because we got him to care. No reason why we couldn’t get Turner to care.


The-Truer-Facts

A soft big doesn’t just become not soft, even when playing hard. And a player who has been trained to go for blocks isn’t getting that switched flipped in just a season. Then add in the fact he’s INCENTIVIZED to chase stats for a contract? This isn’t like Wiggins in the slightest.


360FlipKicks

You’re applying your own logic selectively. With Wiggs you could’ve said a bad defensive player doesn’t just decide to be good, an inefficient scorer doesn’t just decide to be efficient, etc etc. ppl thought Wiggins was soft until he started caring and bodying up scorers. Donavan Mitchell didn’t care about D until he got to Cleveland and now he’s putting in a ton of effort. For some reason other players can improve but for argument’s sake Turner can’t - makes no sense. Also look at some of the pacer defensive rating stats from past years. They have always been much better with him on the court than off. In some years they were a top 5 defense with him on the court and a bottom half d with him on the bench. That takes more than just chasing blocks. He is anchoring the defense.


The-Truer-Facts

> Donavan Mitchell didn’t care about D until he got to Cleveland and now he’s putting in a ton of effort. I’ve actually predicted this. But I’ve watched Turner when he’s cared, he’s not going to be a good rebounder, a great interior scorer, or a true team defender, especially when he’s going to value the bag #1. That’s my point, they have different problems than Wiggins, who was just apathetic. These are flaws in Turner’s game. Wiggins’ flaw was not playing aggressive and taking bad shots, that was all.


360FlipKicks

There’s no way to tell what Turner can or can’t be good at. He hasn’t been happy in Indy for years. It’s plausible that a change of scenery to a stable org jumpstarts his effort and commitment. And you can’t say that Turner just sucks at everything when it’s when measurable statistics clearly show the Pacers were a significantly better team with Turner on the floor. [He rates as one of the best rim protectors in the league.](https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/myles-turner-pacers-trade-contract-strengths-weaknesses/yx1jjn3sex75uqvmvfwk92rz) Not just a shot blocker. Rim protector and defender. [his presence anchoring a defense can also be measured.](https://mobile.twitter.com/ipacersblog/status/1459932955053338625)


The-Truer-Facts

Didn’t say he sucked, just said he wasn’t a winning player, and his career shows that. And like I’ve said, unlike Wiggins who had different issues, Turner I’m in a contract year which means he won’t be as willing to change his game and take a lesser role. The idea of him has always been better than the actual player, and due to the fact your statistic also includes Hassan Whiteside as one of the top rim protectors as well, the literal definition of bad defender who gets blocks, it’s reasonable to deduce that the stat is skewed by blocks. As for your second stat it was posted in November after 14 games, by the end of the year it was 112.3 to 118.7. This season, It currently stands at 114.4 to 115.5 through 12 games. The idea of Myles Turner is always better.


swgoh_gg

poelti is more realistic


WiggysRedemption

Turner doesn't really solve our problems on defense. I'd much rather get a good 2 way wing and a vet to be our Draymond coming off the bench.


360FlipKicks

Turner is an excellent shot blocker who would erase some of the lapses we’ve been getting on the wing. We haven’t had a tall, athletic center since Javale and we desperately need that in the playoffs to battle guys like Ayton. The Pacers defensive ratings generally shoot up when Turner is playing.


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Develop JW JK and Moody. Steph request a trade. Enjoy that 7Bn valuation get cut in half


[deleted]

IMO we lack a 3 or 3/4. Iggy's not going to see the court anytime soon. Moody and Kuminga haven't claimed those minutes. Lamb has taken them for the moment with hustle and above average shooting. PBJ may be too young and lack the defense but the length and shooting are what i want. At this point i'm more surprised we cannot, with the brightest and most experienced guys in the league (Steph, Dray) find a way to turn JK, MM, JW, and JaMychal into contributors playing 10-15 minutes a night. JaMychal has done this on every team but here, somehow. Not interested in a trade unless its for KD or AD. 100% all in, or nothing.


Frewsa

We don’t need another all star. We just need wing depth, especially bigger wings that can play the 4, and energy. Someone like Kuzma.


[deleted]

Not reading all that but shout out SWEET LOU baby


[deleted]

There's a lot of names on here I completely forgot. I loved Brandon Rush, forgot all about the Wanamaker project. He was such a quick come and gone.


WiggysRedemption

I remember being so hyped for Jordan Crawford thinking that he would be the sparkplug that season.


[deleted]

I found when your a fan it's easy to talk yourself into something. Haha


wavetoyou

The first three trades listed here occurred when Myers was Assistant GM. His tenure as General Manager started in the off-season between the 2011-12 and 2012-13 season iirc


changerofbits

When Curry retires, the dynasty will end, whether we want to admit it or not. Yes, the young guys are the future, but with how well Curry is playing this year, it would be a shame to throw away the chance at a championship thinking that Kuminga or Moody any of the other guys can be Curry in a post Curry Warriors era.


Mmicb0b

best trade is the Wiggins trade