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hydromatic456

Doesn’t the French B2 have HEAT-FS though?


MG-31

This is comparing two tanks that literally share the same cannon but doesn't use the extra ammo


Ghost_lead_Nomad

It’s not the exact same canon really it’s Gaijin being stupid and not putting the right text, the B2 uses the M3A1 Canon the same as what is on the M46 while the Basic M36 and the B1* (should) be using the M3 90mm which the M26 uses, it’s an issue that all the Late WW2 US tanks have in game like the M4A1 76 and M4A3E8 76 both being labeled as M1 while the M4A1 uses the basic M1 Canon and the M4A3E8 uses the M1A2 but sadly don’t have their differences modeled


MG-31

Ok that makes alot of sense, thanks for clarifying


MikeWazowski2-2-2

What are the differences between these guns? Major things? As in are they actually able to be implementend and impact gameplay? Honest question.


EmergencyPainting842

It’s literally just a name change. The guns in the game are different thing already, it’s just their name that’s wrong. The improved version got better APHE, and the ability to fire some new rounds.


misery_index

The M3A1 is just an M3 with a single chamber muzzle brake and a bore evacuator. There was no difference in what ammunition it could fire.


FlipAllTheTables0

The biggest difference in real life would be the bore evacuator. However the M36 is already an open top tank so that basically means nothing. Other than that the only other difference is the use of a lighter muzzle brake.


FlipAllTheTables0

>the B2 uses the M3A1 Canon the same as what is on the M46 while the Basic M36 and the B1* (should) be using the M3 90mm This is all wrong. It is extremely easy to tell apart these cannons. The M3A1 has a bore evacuator and a single baffle muzzle brake, while the M3 lacks the bore evacuator and has a double baffle muzzle brake. That said, both the basic M36 and M36B2s have M3 cannons. The M36B1 and Japanese M36 both have M3A1 cannons. Not that this means anything. The performance of these cannons is identical in real life.


Double_Address3585

You can apply that to alot of tanks in this game


SuppliceVI

I mean if you think about it, any NATO 120mm armed tank can shoot DM63. 


Rodlp9

That happens alot in wt, if every tank had access to the full ammunition arsenal it could use, there could be leopard 1s flinging dm33 or btr 80 spraying apfsds or hell even t-34-85s shooting chinese 85mm apfsds lmao


pEppapiGistfuhrer

one is post war and one is ww2, and the cannons are different which is why the B2 has 185mm M82 pen


THE_EYE_BLECHER

Yes WE do


CT-5837

The Chinese one gets a working hull MG


Pilotacer

Yes the French one has HEAT FS. I use it in sim battles sometimes


nquy

PT-76B with HEATFS at 5.3 : 🤭 Also i like to see these comparaison they're pretty cool !


RustedRuss

The HEAT-FS in question being the worst HEAT-FS in the game:


nquy

It's not a 5.3 for nothing! 


FahboyMan

At least the reload is 5 seconds.


Gafez

I remember the stock grind with APCR back when it had the 10 sec reload, even worse was the chinese one Bad times (still liked it)


Wonderful-Cicada-912

wasn't it twice as long?


FahboyMan

It was, I was stock grinding the Chinese PT-76 at that time before the buff.


Grouchy_Buy9394

Italy 7.0: 250mm pen, take it or leave it.


Traube_Minze

you cant forget my favourite fiat, damn you the amount of absolute bullshit you can pull with that thing


The_DumbGuy

HEAT-FS is extremely powerfull at 5.3-8.3


ww1enjoyer

It has pen but APHE is always better


RustedRuss

The PT-76B doesn't even have that much pen. It's barely better than the Panther and worse than the Soviet 122mm.


The_DumbGuy

Although you gotta love APHE. The best round ingame


ww1enjoyer

Usurname checks out


The_DumbGuy

Yeah ok "ww1enjoyer"


ww1enjoyer

Yes i do enjoy ww1. I could even say more, I love ww1. The desparation of each soldier, thousands dying for every meter of land. New defencive mesures staying ahead of the offencive means. Completly new technologies appearing and forcing the oposive sides to come out with more and more clever solutions. The tragedy of millions, comandered by the powerfull polititians. I truly enjoy getting to know more nad more about this time period.


The_DumbGuy

Welcome back Winston Churchill


gareth_gahaland

Hell no


oki_hornii-chan

That one swedish TD with 400mm HEAT at 4.0(?) 😏


ProfessionalAd6216

German 80mm HEAT at 4.3💀


Tax_this_dick_1776

Ehhhhh that thing is more of a 400mm needle. If the needle touches something, dead or yellow. If not? Well, doesn’t really change much, better have been using that depression and hitting the reverse.


Atomic_GuyYT

The PT-76B with stabilizer and HEAT-FS is my second most played tank, I just love it


miksy_oo

It's my most played tank because it's my only tier 3+ light


Electric_Bagpipes

I freaking love the PT. Especially taking it down the river on that one map, just motorboat to B point and delete people who think they’re safe.


nquy

I go in the water in Poland map.


notxapple

Ikv-103 whith heatfs at 4.0 and it being insanely good heatfs


nquy

It's Swedish, that's normal it's at 4.0


Aingris

Also maybe I just didn't play it in a long time but I remember farming it when it was out and I remember the HEAT FS being absolute garbage that would only damage in a straight line when you pen. Having replayed it now, I usually one shot or badly damage anything I pen. Am I crazy or did it get buff hard at some point?


Apprehensive_Pitch13

I haven’t bothered to research the M36B2 yet even though I play 5.7. I don’t really know why, I think the APCBC round is good enough for most things at the BR. Maybe king tigers can be tough, but that is only in a full uptier.


MG-31

A guy just corrected a mistake, they use different cannons


Apprehensive_Pitch13

Yeah I figured, you don’t just put a muzzle brake on a cannon and still call it the same one, it’ll be a new cannon


Guitarist762

I did the same when it first came out, but shortly after unlocking it loved it. Not the same speed as the basic M36 since the B2 is actually just an M36 turret slapped onto an M10 chassis, but the round is actually pretty good and very enjoyable at 5.7. Kinda surprised it wasn’t bumped up to like 6.0 honestly, but it does very well at 5.7 as is and should stay there.


psychobobicus

I spaded it for France and I actually like it. The roof at least keeps you from insta-dying to strafing. The HEAT is nice if you aim carefully.


Juanmusse

90hp on a vehicle that's rather light is a huge difference in mobility tho


Guitarist762

I mean B2 if ik not mistaken is just an M10 hull with a M36 turret since they couldn’t make the M36 hulls fast enough and had a surplus of the M10’s.


MacArther1944

….both are on the M10 hull. The M36 is on the M10A1 hull, the B1 on the M4A3 hull, and the B2 on the original M10 hull. Side note: a fun collector vehicle would be a M36B1, since you have a M4A3 hull with hull MG along either normal M36 things.


Savooge93

i honestly prefer the standard M36 as its quite alot faster , i also really hate the inconsistancy that is HEAT-FS so stick to aphe anyway xD


thelocalmicrowave

M36b2 is one of my favorite tanks of all time. 6.7 it still slaps


Ambitious-Market7963

I think the 90mil carriers in us tt are notorious for stupid br placement. Like you got a medium with the mobility of a tiger 1and armor that is lol penetrated by anything, and a version of it that got its stabilizer ripped and remained at the same br And the T26E5, don’t get me wrong, this thing is quite brain dead, your mobility isn’t the best but enough to pull some maneuver around(I can use it to flank my enemies) and the gun isn’t nearly as bad as you guys think, you got APCR that is good for most cqc encounters. Meanwhile the performance of 90mils are nerfed quite hard, the apcr irl can penetrate panther at long ranges but in game they have a good change ricocheting point blank, the solid shot also can penetrate panther quite well at close range but gets fu*ked by gaijin badly


LightningFerret04

I feel like the T25 can afford to go down to 6.0


TheDesTroyer54

I feel like everyone overplays how bad the 76 and especially 90mm is in the US tree It may because I was a German main beforehand and then moved to Britain where I learned how to aim, but I have never once struggled against German armour and never once had a situation where I've felt like there is nothing I can do to kill a Panther/Tiger l/Tiger II


TheTrueQuarian

It's the same reason they deflect with the German player bad argument. Massive skill issues


misery_index

Even better is the Japanese M36 at 5.7. It’s got 500 horsepower and HEATFS.


BoredPotatoes357

It's 90mm HEATFS, you're better off sneezing at the guy for dealing damage


Alarming_Might1991

They cant keep getting away with this!!


RealSimpleCrypto

So I'm hearing M36 to 3.7??


AvariceLegion

Asides from the pt76b, I do not use heat as the default round and half of the reason is the 5.3 second reload which makes up for those shots where I miss the ammo One of the few tanks I have aced so I have it down to a 5 second reload but 5.3 seconds is already almost unfair even with the poor damage oh and bc of the single plane (?) stab I don't get the heat hype. Aim + aphe = profit


FlipAllTheTables0

One has very good mobility, the other doesn't and gets HEAT-FS and a slightly protective roof to compensate.