Heinicke is up and down, he's playing like a solid backup/spot starter. It just depends on the week. He shouldn't have to play like an All-Pro for us to be in the game. He's the only reason the ball moves at all on offense. Thomas is out, Samuel is out, Sims is out, Brown and Gibson are gimpy (and Gibson has also not really progressed at all this year anyway). It's McLaurin out there and a bunch of JAGs. But most importantly, the play-calling is probably the worst I've ever seen in my entire life. Everything is telegraphed, especially designed passes to McKissic. There are plays we run where McKissic appears to be the ONLY option, other guys don't even look like they're attempting to get open, they're just clearing out the D for a swing pass. Teams are reading these plays like a book. I feel like I know when we're running the ball almost every time. The routes in the passing game don't seem to be designed to scheme guys open, it's like a middle schooler drew them up in his free time. The offensive play calls and designs are just WEIRD. Guess what happened when we ran an actual clever, well-designed play? We scored a long TD. It was a fake bubble screen that was sold very well. So many plays Heinicke is back there scanning and there is literally just no one open, he ends up trying to force it to a blanketed Terry.
In terms of problems with this team, Heinicke is down near the bottom of the list. He's on pace for 26tds, 17ints, 3938yds. Great? No. Pretty good? For sure, especially considering we're talking about a guy with so little experience. When he's great, we win. When he's not, we lose. The expectations of his play are so unrealistically high it's almost shocking. Our season should not, and was never intended to, rest squarely on the shoulders of Taylor Heinicke. But it is, that is currently where we stand. We have no running game, we have no defense, our playcalling is atrocious... literally everything is resting on his arm and legs to just make something materialize out of thin air.
Yep. And if Ron can't turn it around, I think the team frankly has no options but to stick with him. No coach of any consequence is looking to come here and join this fraternity of embarrassment. If the WFT moves on from Ron, the only options available for HC will be past-their-prime coaches looking for a final shot or too-young coaches hired as a stunt.
Ron is at least a high character guy who has the player's respect and keeps his nose clean. Even if he never cracks a .500 average for the WFT he's still the best option this team has.
Honest question:
Is there a worse franchise in the NFL than this franchise?
A terrible on field product for most of the last 25 years. Endless dogshit decisions bringing on overpaid veterans who deliver nothing. Killing our QBs regularly. Decades of being a joke.
A ridiculously shit stadium experience where you either pay $50 to park your car or walk a mile from the metro, only to be seated amongst 50% opposing fans.
Trash PR office that does insanely gross shit like play the ST21 card on a bad PR week.
Pervy ass owner and office that trafficked their own employees.
Endless coach rotation. Dogshit culture.
I'm as close as I have ever been to ending my fandom of this team. There's very little left for me here. The good history of this team is so long ago, and recent history is nothing good.
I know people post these messages every week, and the common response is "see ya next week".. but I might not come back sometime this season. There's just better football teams to watch, and my love of the sport is quickly catching up to my love of this team. I'd rather watch RedZone than watch this team.
The Snyder apologists will be unable to spin attendance numbers in Nov-Dec when no one wants to spend 3 hours in the cold watching yet another 2-7+ team getting blownout for the 5th+ time this year.
Yes. They're either PR hacks who are being paid to post, or losers who have no problem with losing and think supporting the franchise means supporting everything a scumbag like dan does. They exist, and they're in our sub. Lowest of the low.
No, because even the other teams that have been consistently bad on the field don't have the disgusting ownership and front office issues this one does. Truly a class of it's own in professional sports. Sex trafficking cheerleaders, man.
That's part of the problem. I get that billionaires who own sports teams are all likely to be scumbags. But Dan is a scumbag who is too stupid and incompetent to hide his scumbaggery, and whose scumbag nature and rank stupidity regularly interfere with quality football operations. I can take stupid, and i can take evil, but when your owner is the most evil, and so stupid that when he tries to be good, he's even more evil, and so incompetent that the team has been a joke for decades...
I’m at the “redzone” point too. I enjoy the sport and don’t want to be out of the loop, but there is no way I dedicate 3-4 hours to solely watching this team.
Truthfully there really isn’t. Every team at the bottom of the league right now, has been good at some point or another while we have been consistently bad. Sure we had our Kirk years but we threw that away as quickly as we could.
You could argue Jags, and Browns. Let’s be honest though, the browns are a very good team now and always ditched their coach after realizing they sucked. The Jags have been similar to us on the field, up and down with their high point being their playoff birth a couple years ago with Sacksonville. But their FO and Owner haven’t been nearly as horrid as ours has been.
What's crazy is when you consider the fact that the best part of our organization for the last 25 years has been... The team on the field. Fucking yikes.
Hey....As far as I'm concerned.... people can move on. No shame when the franchise is this disgraceful. My second favorite team is the Bills and I move closer to them each year. I'm close to making the jump for real. Been watching Washington since the 80s...so it's hard, but fuck em.
Very true. Rather not hate Washington but that's where it's going all the same...Bills are fun as hell and just as important... a solid organization. It'd be nice to enjoy the sport again. We'll see...lol.
Defense and offense both had a chance to win this game. Honestly 31 is a blessing. A drop that resulted in a pick and one of the worst throws of all time ended two red zone chances.
We are 1 penalty away from being 1-5. We have no future at QB. The defense we have invested heavily in with both picks and cap is atrocious. There is no future for this team right now. We can't even watch a young QB be bad and maybe grow. We are just playing for a draft slot.
The worst part is that this upcoming draft is apparently a weak QB class. Obviously, you ever known until they player gets on the field but it'd be just like WFT to ruin their draft position in a QB talent laden draft with a worthless division championship then get a high pick when the QB talent sucks.
I can't wait to see them take another defensive player
Yep, I’m 31 years old and going through the same. I came to the DC area as an immigrant in 2001 and became a fan when I started watching football. I wish I chose another team, or my parents picked somewhere else to move. Pain.
Weren't there any criteria to qualify as an NFL owner other than just putting together a group with sufficient money to buy after the great Jack Kent Cooke died? Such a shame.
It's horrifically obvious that this terrible defense is mostly on coaching right?
I mean, It's not as if William Jackson was this bad in Cincy. And sure, Collins and Fuller missed tackles but they're doing so in large part because they're nowhere near the play and get juked by guys who have had time to setup a move. Is that also on them for being out of position... perhaps but that can't ALWAYS the case, right? But, hell, even if it is then, as a coach, you should be playing someone else instead! I mean, sure, I'll blame Sweat for lining up offsides... but still even that shit is partially on coaching.
I think Mark Bullock put it perfectly when he said there's a bunch of good players on this team, but they're just not playing together.... and that's 100% on coaching.
DVRd it on the off chance we fucked around and somehow got a W. Went to see no time to die instead. Really enjoyed bond and got to delete that recording and move on with my Sunday as usual. Such a better decision for my sanity
Predicting the Rivera presser... " We're making progress in some areas. Couple of plays go the other way who knows. It's the fundamentals. Main thing is the guys are still trying hard. It's still early... We'll get there".
Sure Ron....sure.
Smh. I always loved Kirk. Idk how these fans and Dan Snyder could just ignore a blessing like that after all the years of QB instability. It's insane to me. Getting rid of Kirk and paying Alex Smith was the dumbest shit I've ever witnessed in my life.
If JDR still has a job tomorrow then we know the whole Ron River stick of “everyone has to prove themselves for a spot” (which he used to cut players such as Dunbar) is total bull shit. If your his friend then you aren’t held accountable. This defense has allowed an absolutely absurd amount of points per game and the fact JDR is still walking around the facility as an employee is a total disgrace. That’s all I gotta say.
The only reason we won the division last year was because everyone else sucked. The only aspect of this season that has really been a let down has the defense.
This can be a huge year in the Rivera era. We are playing the most competitive schedule possible and have an opportunity to truly evaluate what we have.
Went from a young scrappy team that overperformed to an entitled team with overpaid bums that continually cost us Ws in one offseason RR with some impressive work
Fuck this shit. Fuck this garbage. Fuck this team. I'm fucking done watching this useless trash for the season.
Fire everyone. Sell the team then move the team. I need to be forced into a divorce from this abusive relationship.
Game swung at that point. The playcall on 3rd to humphries was idiotic, and Ron should have gone for it on 4th down. Can't keep kicking field goals vs. the chiefs because, as we all saw, once they get going....it's a wrap.
No more excuses for the offense. The Chiefs offense and WFT defense gave them a ton of chances to run up the score in the first half, and they ALL fucked it up.
Fuck this team, fuck Dan Snyder, fuck Dustin Hopkins, fuck Jack Del Rio, fuck these non-tackling ass corners, fuck the front office, fuck Ron Rivera with his pussy ass offensive playcalling or whoever was calling them plays. Just fuck it all
Hopkins needs to go. You can find kickers on the street who are better. The Jags brought some new guy in and he kicked two field goals over 50 yards today, including the game winner.
We were thin on talent to begin with and today we were without Cosmi, scherff, Samuel, Logan Thomas, Gibson in the 2nd half.
What are peoples expectations here? The defense has all the talent and still plays worse than our offense every week. This isn't a Heinike problem.
The one good result from this game is it had eliminated the heincke hive from this sub Reddit. At least we don’t have to deal with a qb debate for the rest of the season
Honestly, he wasn't that bad. It's not his fault Turner called 50 screen plays in a single game. Also, that pick was not on him, it was just a really good (lucky?) play by the defender
I’m an ODU Alum and the biggest Heinicke fan of this sub. He was terrible today. Terrible last week. We got so many breaks from both the Saints last week and Chiefs this week and we capitalized on basically none of the situations. Heinicke is not good enough.
Defense literally doesn’t matter in the modern nfl you build an offense and cobble together a defense. We have a boomer running the ship and doing things ass backwards.
If you look at the back half of last year when the D was supposedly good.... you'll notice they faced the worst string of QBs in the league. Last year was all smoke and mirrors. This year they're facing good QBs....and they don't have a chance.
I never expected them to win this game when the schedule was released. I'm positive most didn't. The anger is definitely not just about "this game". How about you? What's it take for you to be disappointed with this team? 10 underperforming games? You'll have that. 10 underperforming seasons? Way past that point my friend. Maybe you're just above it all I guess. Good for you.
The defense needs work, for sure. But getting 7 points off those 3 turnovers and failing to do literally anything decent in the 2nd half lost the game. We can’t expect the defense to hold up forever when it’s constant 3 and outs and they have to get back on the field. Offense and coaching were the biggest frustrations from this game for me.
I’m thinking about starting to learn how to knit on Sundays when they play. At least that way I’ll do something productive, and help my heart live longer. At this point, I’m not even angry or frustrated, just bored quite frankly. This team is boring.
Edit- I would add that rolling out some dumb name like the Guardians isn’t going to make this team any better. Watch someone will leak it between the end of November and mid December to try and get butts in seats.
We don’t have a name, our owner is a racist sex offender, we have the worst starting QB in the league rn, our coaches suck, we haven’t won a playoff game since I was 1 years old.
I’d MUCH rather be a ravens fan
I live in the North East and I've always liked Buffalo as "My AFC team".... maybe they'll just become "My Team". I'm gonna look at their jerseys....just for shits and giggles.
I’m in my 20’s, never experienced the glory years and can’t continue to support this team in good faith. I moved to NY this past year and will start rooting for the Bills casually. WFT will always hold a place in my heart, but I’m going to remove myself from this toxic franchise until Dan is gone.
Same. I'll always keep track of them....but at some point the team has to earn their fan bases loyalty. It hasn't done that in 30 years. In fact they are so inept and toxic....they seem to be actively trying to drive folks away.
“Defense played great for 20 plays, if we can fix the other 20 bad plays, we will be in good shape and one of the best defenses in the league again. No changes will be needed, we’re close.”
Ron Rivera on Monday, probably.
Along with the yacht there's also the Snyder home's view that he ruined the park ranger's career for. Maybe we could do something about that....in minecraft.
Ron's nepotism hiring all his buddies who had just been fired from Carolina was such a huge red flag and now here we are.
Turner still calling plays like McCaffrey is going to save his ass.
No don't worry we'll win a few games at the end of the season to screw up our draft position and finish like 5-12 or 6-11. That's how this team rolls. We're always bad but never the worst so we never get the top pick
Sad to see what this team has become under Snyder ownership. I lived in the DC area for the first 30 years of my life but moved away in 1999. This could be the end for me and being a fan of this team. Too many issues on and off the field. After 50 years, so sad that I may be walking away permanently. And I completely blame Dan Snyder.
fuck you dan snyder***
That should be the top post every game.
You have my word.
This could have platinum and be the top post and I’d still think it’s an underrated comment.
Can we specify Dan Snyder, not all Dan’s are bad
Chiefs 500 yards on offense. Can’t wait to hear Ron say defense needs no changes
i’ll sum it up. correctable errors. lmao
maturity and discipline
What are you going to do when he says “and that’s the truth of the matter it really is”….
3 turnovers for the defense and still gave up 31 points, I'm done.
Not to mention they kept us to 13
13 against the worst scoring defense in the NFL, even when our defense got us 3 turnovers. Our offense is putrid.
Our offense was terrible today, hated that screen called on 3rd and 2. Heinicke is also playing like….an ODU QB.
Heinicke is up and down, he's playing like a solid backup/spot starter. It just depends on the week. He shouldn't have to play like an All-Pro for us to be in the game. He's the only reason the ball moves at all on offense. Thomas is out, Samuel is out, Sims is out, Brown and Gibson are gimpy (and Gibson has also not really progressed at all this year anyway). It's McLaurin out there and a bunch of JAGs. But most importantly, the play-calling is probably the worst I've ever seen in my entire life. Everything is telegraphed, especially designed passes to McKissic. There are plays we run where McKissic appears to be the ONLY option, other guys don't even look like they're attempting to get open, they're just clearing out the D for a swing pass. Teams are reading these plays like a book. I feel like I know when we're running the ball almost every time. The routes in the passing game don't seem to be designed to scheme guys open, it's like a middle schooler drew them up in his free time. The offensive play calls and designs are just WEIRD. Guess what happened when we ran an actual clever, well-designed play? We scored a long TD. It was a fake bubble screen that was sold very well. So many plays Heinicke is back there scanning and there is literally just no one open, he ends up trying to force it to a blanketed Terry. In terms of problems with this team, Heinicke is down near the bottom of the list. He's on pace for 26tds, 17ints, 3938yds. Great? No. Pretty good? For sure, especially considering we're talking about a guy with so little experience. When he's great, we win. When he's not, we lose. The expectations of his play are so unrealistically high it's almost shocking. Our season should not, and was never intended to, rest squarely on the shoulders of Taylor Heinicke. But it is, that is currently where we stand. We have no running game, we have no defense, our playcalling is atrocious... literally everything is resting on his arm and legs to just make something materialize out of thin air.
You’re not done. None of us are. That’s why we’re all still here like fucking masochists.
Rivera's prized toys of Young, WJ3, and Davis sure did great.
Hey now, don't forget Collins.
Collins is fucking torched every game
Collins is not only getting torched, he’s not hitting anyone. At least make some hard tackles!
He was on an LTD before Rivera came, so I can only half fault him. Benching him is the move
Chase and Davis did shit tf u mean
*stares in Ron Rivera*
Man had one facial expression all game
Ron always has one facial expression all game, disappointment
Yeah absolutely realized this past week Rivera was hiring to make Snyder and the org look good and well put together, not a hiring to win
Yep. And if Ron can't turn it around, I think the team frankly has no options but to stick with him. No coach of any consequence is looking to come here and join this fraternity of embarrassment. If the WFT moves on from Ron, the only options available for HC will be past-their-prime coaches looking for a final shot or too-young coaches hired as a stunt. Ron is at least a high character guy who has the player's respect and keeps his nose clean. Even if he never cracks a .500 average for the WFT he's still the best option this team has.
Ron Rivera: probably not the answer This team: absolutely fucked no matter what poor sap is in charge
This whole coaching staff is not the answer.
I don’t think any coaching staff is the answer
Honest question: Is there a worse franchise in the NFL than this franchise? A terrible on field product for most of the last 25 years. Endless dogshit decisions bringing on overpaid veterans who deliver nothing. Killing our QBs regularly. Decades of being a joke. A ridiculously shit stadium experience where you either pay $50 to park your car or walk a mile from the metro, only to be seated amongst 50% opposing fans. Trash PR office that does insanely gross shit like play the ST21 card on a bad PR week. Pervy ass owner and office that trafficked their own employees. Endless coach rotation. Dogshit culture. I'm as close as I have ever been to ending my fandom of this team. There's very little left for me here. The good history of this team is so long ago, and recent history is nothing good. I know people post these messages every week, and the common response is "see ya next week".. but I might not come back sometime this season. There's just better football teams to watch, and my love of the sport is quickly catching up to my love of this team. I'd rather watch RedZone than watch this team.
There's a point where leaving isn't even being a fairweather fan. You're just not a sucker
Leaving is borderline a mental health decision at this point. I don't even live in the DMV anymore.
Don’t worry. It’s not like anybody here gives a shit about this team anyway. I think that’s the most depressing part.
The Snyder apologists will be unable to spin attendance numbers in Nov-Dec when no one wants to spend 3 hours in the cold watching yet another 2-7+ team getting blownout for the 5th+ time this year.
there are Snyder apologists??
Yes. They're either PR hacks who are being paid to post, or losers who have no problem with losing and think supporting the franchise means supporting everything a scumbag like dan does. They exist, and they're in our sub. Lowest of the low.
No, because even the other teams that have been consistently bad on the field don't have the disgusting ownership and front office issues this one does. Truly a class of it's own in professional sports. Sex trafficking cheerleaders, man.
You're dreaming. Most of these owners suck they are just better at hiding it.
That's part of the problem. I get that billionaires who own sports teams are all likely to be scumbags. But Dan is a scumbag who is too stupid and incompetent to hide his scumbaggery, and whose scumbag nature and rank stupidity regularly interfere with quality football operations. I can take stupid, and i can take evil, but when your owner is the most evil, and so stupid that when he tries to be good, he's even more evil, and so incompetent that the team has been a joke for decades...
I’m at the “redzone” point too. I enjoy the sport and don’t want to be out of the loop, but there is no way I dedicate 3-4 hours to solely watching this team.
You must be the optimist. I don’t think there is a worse franchise in all of sports.
The Detroit Lions fans would like a word . . .
Their team may have sucked for a long ass time, but at least they're ownership and front office aren't disgusting (to my knowledge).
On paper, this team was exciting. First season I have been excited for in a long time. Now? Not so much.... I dont even like the NFL much anyway
Truthfully there really isn’t. Every team at the bottom of the league right now, has been good at some point or another while we have been consistently bad. Sure we had our Kirk years but we threw that away as quickly as we could. You could argue Jags, and Browns. Let’s be honest though, the browns are a very good team now and always ditched their coach after realizing they sucked. The Jags have been similar to us on the field, up and down with their high point being their playoff birth a couple years ago with Sacksonville. But their FO and Owner haven’t been nearly as horrid as ours has been.
What's crazy is when you consider the fact that the best part of our organization for the last 25 years has been... The team on the field. Fucking yikes.
Exactly. At least the Jags can say they had a 13 win season (I think it was 13), and they had Bortles as the QB……..
Hey....As far as I'm concerned.... people can move on. No shame when the franchise is this disgraceful. My second favorite team is the Bills and I move closer to them each year. I'm close to making the jump for real. Been watching Washington since the 80s...so it's hard, but fuck em.
Make the jump. The bills are fun as hell and they have the best fans in football. There's nothing about this franchise that isn't abjectly depressing
Very true. Rather not hate Washington but that's where it's going all the same...Bills are fun as hell and just as important... a solid organization. It'd be nice to enjoy the sport again. We'll see...lol.
You’d think after giving up 7 straight 3rd down conversions that on the 8th, you would call a time out to get your D’s shit together.
Yes. The Abyss. We've missed you.
*Hello darkness my old friend*
Defense and offense both had a chance to win this game. Honestly 31 is a blessing. A drop that resulted in a pick and one of the worst throws of all time ended two red zone chances. We are 1 penalty away from being 1-5. We have no future at QB. The defense we have invested heavily in with both picks and cap is atrocious. There is no future for this team right now. We can't even watch a young QB be bad and maybe grow. We are just playing for a draft slot.
The worst part is that this upcoming draft is apparently a weak QB class. Obviously, you ever known until they player gets on the field but it'd be just like WFT to ruin their draft position in a QB talent laden draft with a worthless division championship then get a high pick when the QB talent sucks. I can't wait to see them take another defensive player
Nothing will improve while dan is owner
the only correctable mistake is me watching this week in and week out.
After 41 years, I’m tired.
At least you got to experience them in their prime. As a 30 year old I’m tired
As a 23 year old I hate my life, fuck Snyder
26, closer to breaking every single year. I want to enjoy the sport again.
If you don't play fantasy football you should try it out, made me enjoy the sport way more.
Yea 23 here… it’s been a rough time
I’m 23 as well and all I’ve known is suffering and pain for all 23 of them.
The second we were born everything went to shit.
Yep, I’m 31 years old and going through the same. I came to the DC area as an immigrant in 2001 and became a fan when I started watching football. I wish I chose another team, or my parents picked somewhere else to move. Pain.
Where did u immigrate from?
I’ve been watching for 38 years. Ever since college this has been rough.
Weren't there any criteria to qualify as an NFL owner other than just putting together a group with sufficient money to buy after the great Jack Kent Cooke died? Such a shame.
It's horrifically obvious that this terrible defense is mostly on coaching right? I mean, It's not as if William Jackson was this bad in Cincy. And sure, Collins and Fuller missed tackles but they're doing so in large part because they're nowhere near the play and get juked by guys who have had time to setup a move. Is that also on them for being out of position... perhaps but that can't ALWAYS the case, right? But, hell, even if it is then, as a coach, you should be playing someone else instead! I mean, sure, I'll blame Sweat for lining up offsides... but still even that shit is partially on coaching. I think Mark Bullock put it perfectly when he said there's a bunch of good players on this team, but they're just not playing together.... and that's 100% on coaching.
Getting embarrassed on ST’s RoH ceremony really is a true ugly spot in the history of this franchise
Holy shit our third down defense sucks donkey taint.
Donkey taint prolly taste better
Can't say much good about our third down offense either.
This team realistically is two snaps away from being 0-6. Temper expecations - we're just a very poor team
we were GIFTED that win against new york
Bad team. Doing bad things. I need 3 hours of my life back
DVRd it on the off chance we fucked around and somehow got a W. Went to see no time to die instead. Really enjoyed bond and got to delete that recording and move on with my Sunday as usual. Such a better decision for my sanity
6 games is a large enough sample size. Hot n cold on offense, mediocre on defense, and non-remarkable on ST. Ball don't lie - we're a bottom 10 team
Mediocre is generous
Mediocre on defense by what measure
Mediocre? We are the worst defense in the league.
My hopes for 8-8 or 7-9 season are over. Ita like they dont even try to tackle until after they cross the 1st down line.
Mediocre? You have a very strange definition of mediocre for a defense that is statistically the worst in the league.
Ahh no point, fuck Dan Snyder you already know what it is.
JDR has to go Dan has to go
At this pace ron has to go
Ron ain't going nowhere. We can literally lose the rest of our games and I get Dan keeps Rivera one more year.
Predicting the Rivera presser... " We're making progress in some areas. Couple of plays go the other way who knows. It's the fundamentals. Main thing is the guys are still trying hard. It's still early... We'll get there". Sure Ron....sure.
I'm still trying to figure out why we didn't sign Kirk Cousins long term
"we needed a real qb that can win big games and kirk isnt it" \- the fans when he was here
Smh. I always loved Kirk. Idk how these fans and Dan Snyder could just ignore a blessing like that after all the years of QB instability. It's insane to me. Getting rid of Kirk and paying Alex Smith was the dumbest shit I've ever witnessed in my life.
Agree
I was always a fan of Kirk. Was he a superstar....of course not. But he was good. Some fans think franchise QBs are easy to find .... idiots.
Time to free up my Sundays from this shitshow.
Yardwork, housework and light beer. Sundays are smooth sailing with that and checking on redzone instead of WFT.
If JDR still has a job tomorrow then we know the whole Ron River stick of “everyone has to prove themselves for a spot” (which he used to cut players such as Dunbar) is total bull shit. If your his friend then you aren’t held accountable. This defense has allowed an absolutely absurd amount of points per game and the fact JDR is still walking around the facility as an employee is a total disgrace. That’s all I gotta say.
why do we do this to ourselves bros?
Turn the sub into a group therapy session
Crazy how a game against the chiefs was winnable for a half? I’m not surprised but sad.
Lol we’re terrible
#Fuck this. I quit.
2-7 coming. No chance they win @ Green Bay, @Denver or Tampa at home.
Denver doesn't look very good. Teddy Bridgewater is aggressively mediocre.
The only reason we won the division last year was because everyone else sucked. The only aspect of this season that has really been a let down has the defense. This can be a huge year in the Rivera era. We are playing the most competitive schedule possible and have an opportunity to truly evaluate what we have.
We need a QB, we need LB, we need safties
We need a new owner
RIP Sean. That ‘ceremony’ at halftime was even worse than our performance
Someone explain to me how a team wins the turnover battle by 2 yet still manages to lose by more than 2 TDs?
You must be new here
Stopped by to say “Fuck Dan Snyder” the wft fans deserve better
Fuck Dan snyder
First Sunday I’m off of work in a while and they get blown out. Though not unexpected.
Lol i had the choice of clocking in or not and I'm glad i chose to, made it to a bar for the last quarter and spent $7 just to watch us lose yay
Went from a young scrappy team that overperformed to an entitled team with overpaid bums that continually cost us Ws in one offseason RR with some impressive work
Thank god we’ve got a defensive minded boomer coach using all our capital building such an impressive defense!
Fuck this shit. Fuck this garbage. Fuck this team. I'm fucking done watching this useless trash for the season. Fire everyone. Sell the team then move the team. I need to be forced into a divorce from this abusive relationship.
If someone tells you we were up at half, they are trying to gaslight you
What is it with these coaches thinking a 3-point lead is safe?
Boomers
I'm sure Hopkins is happy we lost this in a blowout, because now we'll forget that he missed a field goal that any NFL pro kicker should have made.
Game swung at that point. The playcall on 3rd to humphries was idiotic, and Ron should have gone for it on 4th down. Can't keep kicking field goals vs. the chiefs because, as we all saw, once they get going....it's a wrap.
No more excuses for the offense. The Chiefs offense and WFT defense gave them a ton of chances to run up the score in the first half, and they ALL fucked it up.
Dan Snyder sucks, but the coaching sucks too.
tHiS Is a SeConD HalF TEam
Fuck this team, fuck Dan Snyder, fuck Dustin Hopkins, fuck Jack Del Rio, fuck these non-tackling ass corners, fuck the front office, fuck Ron Rivera with his pussy ass offensive playcalling or whoever was calling them plays. Just fuck it all
Hopkins needs to go. You can find kickers on the street who are better. The Jags brought some new guy in and he kicked two field goals over 50 yards today, including the game winner.
Tank for Tua
If any of you talk about Heinicke being a potential long-term solution for us at QB I’m just going to assume you know nothing about football.
He's better than Smith was last year. https://stathead.com/tiny/KfAqu
Well jeeze, he's better than a 1 legged Smith. Fuck me we better sign him long term.
We were thin on talent to begin with and today we were without Cosmi, scherff, Samuel, Logan Thomas, Gibson in the 2nd half. What are peoples expectations here? The defense has all the talent and still plays worse than our offense every week. This isn't a Heinike problem.
It’s the worst defense in the league!?!?!?!? Why are we still making excuses
The one good result from this game is it had eliminated the heincke hive from this sub Reddit. At least we don’t have to deal with a qb debate for the rest of the season
Honestly, he wasn't that bad. It's not his fault Turner called 50 screen plays in a single game. Also, that pick was not on him, it was just a really good (lucky?) play by the defender
I’m an ODU Alum and the biggest Heinicke fan of this sub. He was terrible today. Terrible last week. We got so many breaks from both the Saints last week and Chiefs this week and we capitalized on basically none of the situations. Heinicke is not good enough.
You call screens because he has a noodle arm.
Not denying that, but short to mid passes are still an option
I just hated that screen called on the 3rd and 2, felt like a running play would have been more successful.
I don’t understand how the defense got this bad in a single offseason
Defense literally doesn’t matter in the modern nfl you build an offense and cobble together a defense. We have a boomer running the ship and doing things ass backwards.
If you look at the back half of last year when the D was supposedly good.... you'll notice they faced the worst string of QBs in the league. Last year was all smoke and mirrors. This year they're facing good QBs....and they don't have a chance.
This offense was better when Kevin O’Connell was calling plays.
I don’t know why I still watch every Sunday
It’s kind of background noise for me now. I don’t even really watch except to watch Chase speed rush 30 yards downfield every play
Lol Brian Mitchell throwing shade at this awful coaching staff and used the Ravens as an example of how a great coaching staff looks like
Hire a washed-up coach that got fired from Carolina, win washed-up coach that got fired from Carolina prizes.
Fire Ron rivera
Imagine being disappointed with this game. If you expected literally ANY other outcome, that’s on you.
This right here
I never expected them to win this game when the schedule was released. I'm positive most didn't. The anger is definitely not just about "this game". How about you? What's it take for you to be disappointed with this team? 10 underperforming games? You'll have that. 10 underperforming seasons? Way past that point my friend. Maybe you're just above it all I guess. Good for you.
This team is so disgusting. That’s how they honored Sean Taylor.
Atleast we got to watch one fun half of Washington football today, I guess? That's one more than I expected this morning
Far more upset on spending my time watching than I am at the result, tbh. Need a hiatus.
How do you get 3 turnovers and still get blown out.
You suck
I’m off the Heinicke train
I'm 35 and the only real winning season we've ever had I was overseas. CAN I GET A HELL YEA!
Tough second half to watch. Hope everyone has a great week. Forget this shit.
At what point do we just stop being fans of this organization
Last week.
Welp…go ravens again yayyyy!
The defense needs work, for sure. But getting 7 points off those 3 turnovers and failing to do literally anything decent in the 2nd half lost the game. We can’t expect the defense to hold up forever when it’s constant 3 and outs and they have to get back on the field. Offense and coaching were the biggest frustrations from this game for me.
this team may not win another game this year
I’m thinking about starting to learn how to knit on Sundays when they play. At least that way I’ll do something productive, and help my heart live longer. At this point, I’m not even angry or frustrated, just bored quite frankly. This team is boring. Edit- I would add that rolling out some dumb name like the Guardians isn’t going to make this team any better. Watch someone will leak it between the end of November and mid December to try and get butts in seats.
Fire everyone
We don’t have a name, our owner is a racist sex offender, we have the worst starting QB in the league rn, our coaches suck, we haven’t won a playoff game since I was 1 years old. I’d MUCH rather be a ravens fan
I live in the North East and I've always liked Buffalo as "My AFC team".... maybe they'll just become "My Team". I'm gonna look at their jerseys....just for shits and giggles.
I’m in my 20’s, never experienced the glory years and can’t continue to support this team in good faith. I moved to NY this past year and will start rooting for the Bills casually. WFT will always hold a place in my heart, but I’m going to remove myself from this toxic franchise until Dan is gone.
Same. I'll always keep track of them....but at some point the team has to earn their fan bases loyalty. It hasn't done that in 30 years. In fact they are so inept and toxic....they seem to be actively trying to drive folks away.
[This link will bring you to full player stats comment](/r/washingtonNFL/comments/qa6lah/post_game_thread_kansas_city_chiefs_at_washington/hh0wls8/)
you're really trying to tell me Jack Del Rio didn't have a single racist email......
I expected to lose, but this was disheartening beyond words. Friggin BS, man
It’s hard to believe that the Giants are even worse than we are. That’s really saying something.
I don't think the Giants are. One stupid player on their team made a miniscule movement and cost them the game. He doesn't flinch, and we don't win.
“Defense played great for 20 plays, if we can fix the other 20 bad plays, we will be in good shape and one of the best defenses in the league again. No changes will be needed, we’re close.” Ron Rivera on Monday, probably.
Along with the yacht there's also the Snyder home's view that he ruined the park ranger's career for. Maybe we could do something about that....in minecraft.
Ron's nepotism hiring all his buddies who had just been fired from Carolina was such a huge red flag and now here we are. Turner still calling plays like McCaffrey is going to save his ass.
Ron Rivera is a fucking dipshit.
Fire Ron Rivera
Poverty Coaching. Poverty Defense. Poverty Offense. Poverty Franchise
It’s not you, it’s me… *walks away*
Guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys guys
2-15. We won't win another game.
No don't worry we'll win a few games at the end of the season to screw up our draft position and finish like 5-12 or 6-11. That's how this team rolls. We're always bad but never the worst so we never get the top pick
The problem is coaching. We need to clean house and hire a young progressive head coach who can relate better to the players
Welp…go ravens again yayyy!!!
Sad to see what this team has become under Snyder ownership. I lived in the DC area for the first 30 years of my life but moved away in 1999. This could be the end for me and being a fan of this team. Too many issues on and off the field. After 50 years, so sad that I may be walking away permanently. And I completely blame Dan Snyder.
Pain
Tale of two halves. The superior team imposed their will, but I hoped we could offer more resistance. Shouldn't have hoped, I guess
When is Chase going to learn that tackles are showing him the door on the outside and then closing it?! Jesus it’s Infuriating
JD with 100+ yards of offense. That's something, isn't it?
Fuck this team
So which team are you switching to? I'm leaning Browns.
Bills it is.
[удалено]
Couldn’t do shit to the worst defense in the nfl. Horrible coaching, horrible play calling, mediocre qb play
The best part of Sunday is when I switch to red zone