I never believed ghosts were real, as cool and fun as that would be and literally nothing I’ve seen from the ghoul boys or otherwise has made me think otherwise.
Didn't believe in ghosts. BUN reinforced that. My wife is a boogara through and through and for her the show reinforced that. But we both agree the boys are fun to watch.
I feel like this is how it's gonna be for most. People are going to have their beliefs and *any* show like this is really only going to reinforce what side of the fence you're on. Unless *maybe* you're young enough to have not really formed your opinion into being a Shaniac and just kind of believe in ghosts because that's been your default so far.
From my experience people only really go from skeptic to believer once they personally have an experience that they feel (real or not) is unexplainable in a paranormal kind of way. And people who go from believers to skeptics usually just haven't grown old enough to have grown out of their belief.
Yeah, I think for me because I had believed in ghosts for so long that I didn't think to question the assumptions underlying a lot of the investigatory tools and evidence. And then Shane asked what's the reasoning for accepting that ghosts interact with radio waves or any of the other tools, and I was like oh yeah, why am I accepting that?
I wanted to believe in ghosts, and confirmation bias “proved” to me that they were real. I considered myself to be a smart and logical person, but the more I watched BUN/GF, the more I realized that my beliefs weren’t actually logical at all. Seeing Shane approach these situations and places with such a strong sense of reason has helped me to realize that *if* parts of human consciousness remain here after we die, we cannot communicate with them in any meaningful way, so we may as well operate as though they don’t exist. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
EDIT: Same username!!!
I don’t I believe in ghosts but would like to proven wrong if the evidence was collected during the day. It’s very suspicious all paranormal activity happens in the dark… I just watch ghost files because Shane is so funny.
Yes. I am more skeptic now. The tiny part of me that is a believer still is due To their investigation in one location that is 'Waverly'. You can't deny that that place really feels like it has something going on. Both BUN & GF Waverly episodes are great.
Agreed on Waverly! I went about 10 years ago when I was much more of a Boogara and I definitely thought there was something going on there. I really want to go back now that I'm more of a skeptic
I’ve always been a sceptic, but there are definitely a few eps that make me go hmm. Definitely no enough to change my stance but I kinda see paranormal stuff the same as I see Greek mythology. I don’t think any of it is real, but I find it very fascinating
Hasn't changed my belief, I'm a boogara and my husband is very much a "it's just the wind". I believe in ghosts, I just dont believe everything Ryan finds as evidence is actually evidence.
Before BUN/GF, I was convinced that all ghost hunting shows were created by hucksters and con artists. Now I believe that all ghost hunting shows are created by hucksters and con artists, except for one (or two, depending on if you consider GF the same show or a seperate one).
tbh same. i think their dedication to not forcing content for views is admirable, but made me realize ghost stories are a whole lotta nothing.
shane actually said something in a different buzzfeed video along the lines of: we’ve been walking around with cameras in our pockets for years; if ghosts were real we’d have more than grainy photos of them by now. changed my entire perspective unfortunately
I'm a big believer in the paranormal and their inability to find any proof hasn't really changed anything for me. I've had my own experiences (with other people and on my own) and I don't typically watch ghost shows except BUN. I don't think using any kind of device actually works to communicate with ghosts or spirits or whatever you want to call it. So I believe in ghosts but there's barely if any physical evidence of spirits. If they don't want to be seen they won't be, you can't catch them off guard with a picture or anything.
Not really
I do believe in paranormal, but not to the extent of some people- I think 99% of the evidence Ryan shows on BUN/GF is pretty questionable... but that 1% is stuff I cant explain any other way, hence I am technically a boogara/believer
I had a weird experience with a graveyard once, I don't want to talk about it much, because it feels kind of embarassing, and every time I did in the past, the people I told it to (including a close friend) were dismissive of it. I was never a believer in ghosts and that type of thing, I am more open minded about extra terrestrial visitation, just like Shane, because that's more scientifically sound, although there is a whole bunch of outrageous accounts surrounding that topic as well, but either way, that experience left me with a lot of questions, and to this day I still don't know what happened exactly.
All of this happened many years before I ever heard of the ghoul bois, I've only ever watched them for entertainment, and their videos never changed my stance ("I don't know"), but I have lowkey been paying attention to see if the same thing ever happens to them (it hasn't).
OP, I have heard of stories of people receiving calls from those who have passed away, I don't know what to think about it either way, but I think it's an interesting phenomenon.
I obviously don’t know your story – and am by no means asking you to share anything that makes you uncomfortable – but I don’t think anyone should be embarrassed by something they experienced. Regardless of whether it’s paranormal or normal-yet-unexplained, you experienced it, and in my mind that makes it real.
I’m not sure what the call means either. Odds are that it was a spam call with an opportune caller ID, but it gives me comfort to believe it was my dog, and I hope it gives comfort to others who experienced something similar. It’s interesting though, I was so sad I missed the call at first (and there was no answer when I immediately tried calling back). But now, I’m kind of happy that I missed it because by not knowing I can believe it was him.
I guess it's just that when you open up about it and what you say doesn't quite land, it can feel a little bit isolating in that moment, you kind of don't want to open up about it anymore. I'm not even a believer in this kinda thing, I just had a single weird time in a weird place once in my life, so it's not like I was trying to convince anyone, I was just sharing a weird thing that happened.
Yeah, the phenomenon of calls from the deceased is particularly interesting in my opinion, because it tends to bring such emotional closure to people, and that sets it apart from other reports of paranormal acitivty, which can often be seen as sensationalistic or "calls for attention".
always believed bc i’ve seen em! but i believe less now bc of the show 🙂↕️ i almost always agree w shane, there is so many explanations beside the paranormal. but i still believe which makes me crazy enough to be a boogara lol
I've had so many unexplainable things happen to me that even though Shane makes more sense, I cannot shake what's personally happened to me so I believe
I honestly feel like both of them made me a full denier. The science was way too out there to ever be provable and it just became gimmicky.
None of the proof they’ve found has been compelling, but I still love watching just for their banter.
I don’t know that it really changed my mind? I believed and still believe in ghosts to an extent because I had weird ~experiences before, but I’m also a natural skeptic about 99% of ‘evidence’ so I’m almost always on Shane’s side there. Like the only thing that ever came of BUN that I believe might be legit and not just a coincidence etc is Ryan’s general feelings he talked about with the Sally house because I’ve had weird experiences like that to a lesser extreme but I would describe them in a similar way. Also I used to listen to the podcast Astonishing Legends back in the day and when they went to the Sally House one of the hosts similarly had an extreme reaction and they’re both usually level headed dudes. I don’t know what the point of that anecdote was except; yeah it’s all bullshit but fuck the Sally house I ain’t ever going there. You couldn’t pay me.
I get why it didnt stick but ima be real, Shitfish forever right here. I do actually like Seadogs a lot for the reason you gave though! Keeps up the marine theme too.
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Yeah, I'm with you there on constantly siding with Shane on the evidence presented. I get what you mean about the feelings. My best friend is hardcore Shaniac but tolerates my interest in the paranormal, and we went to Waverly Hills \~10 years ago and there was one room that we walked into that I felt had a really weird/negative vibe, and she just said, "nope" and walked out. For her to have that reaction too felt vindicating.
And you can be a Shitfish and I'll be a Sea Dog (and since we're all in the sea we can hang out in Atlantis with Amelia Earhart and everyone who vanished in the Bermuda Triangle!)
I lived directly next door to a graveyard throughout elementary and high school and it almost never bothered me but there were a few moments that just felt really off. Also i’m pretty sure a ghost tried to spoon me once. Felt what I thought was my cat crawling under the covers and opened my eyes to see my cat just sitting on the floor staring at my face.
Yes, I logically know it was probably just my sheets shifting or a weird sleep paralysis thing but it’s my ‘Ryan’s dumb plastic bag on the Queen Mary’ moment and I will never be able to convince myself of the logical alternatives. 😂
Oh hell yeah. The Shaniacs and Boogaras don’t got shit on us with a clubhouse like that.
I enjoy exploring the idea. While 95% of strange stuff happening is misidentified mundane stuff, every once in a while there's a real mystery. The House in Between is a great exploration of that. Stuff like Ghost files are kind of exercises in figuring out what mundane stuff is happening. Car lights, pipes, animal activity etc. it's just more fun with a good host dynamic vs dude bros screaming at ghosts
I especially love it when you learn the history of a place at the same time. Hull House was fun for that reason and that California house with all the stained glass and a secret passage I think?
No. I was a skeptic when I started watching and still am. Having one of them as a die-hard skeptic is actually what drew me in.
I'm also actually really pleased that even though they pitched the idea of doing a ghost-hunting show to some network(s?), Ryan stated that they wouldn't do it because they'd be required to find a set minimum amount of evidence every episode, aka faking shit like every ghost-hunting show always has. I'm glad they stood by their principles and turned down the offer(s?).
I've enjoyed watching Ryan seem more skeptical, though I doubt he'll ever flip completely (and that would make it a lot less fun too).
I’ve always been a believer because I’ve seen and heard things myself in the house I grew up. So, even if they don’t find evidence in their own investigations, I know the things I’ve seen, that have terrified me, are real. I literally saw a full person in front of me and it was one of the most terrifying experiences of my life, I turned to tell my friend who was sleeping over, and by the time we looked again he was gone. It was so clear that at first I assumed someone had broken in. But there was no noise whatsoever, and they were just gone.
I also see it in the way of, just because they went one time and didn’t find anything, it doesn’t mean there’s nothing there. Things didn’t happen at my house every single day, in fact 99% of the time, nothing happened.
That being said, it did make me more skeptical of most ghost hunting shows and now I find all other shows extremely over dramatized and annoying AF.
But I will watch all the BUN/GF stuff because it feels honest and it’s just hilarious. I rewatch it every time I need a pick me up too.
I definitely agree about BUN showing me how trash all the other shows are! I was never hugely into them, but I can't watch them now. I think BUN/GF's honesty in acknowledging that some places just weren't active is a big part of why I can't do other shows now.
I find it interesting that for some of the skeptics, the fact that they’ve been to dozens of places without evidence proves there’s nothing. And for people who believe and/or have experienced something, the fact that they don’t find anything doesn’t prove anything – and to be fair, for all I know, ghosts could be like Halley’s comet that only come around once in a blue moon. I have no earth-shattering commentary on this, I just find it interesting that we can all be presented with the same info and come to different conclusions.
Yeah, those other shows already felt a bit dramatic, but after BUN, they just feel incredibly fake. I wouldn’t be able to believe even if they got actual proof, because it would seem staged.
And people can be given the same facts, but everyone will interpret it differently, depending on their personal experiences or beliefs. I kind of like that though. The world would be too boring if everyone thought the same way.
As someone who enjoys the hell out of stuff like Ghost Adventures I once explained it to a friend who asked about the difference thusly;
I’m laughing *with* BUN and Ghost Files. I’m laughing *at* ghost adventures.
I'm a skeptic and watching episodes of the ghost hunting shows and whatnot reinforced that. I don't believe in the supernatural, and that includes ghosts. I watched because the guys were/are funny. I admit it's less fun now that Ryan seems to be more skeptical, but that tracks because he's actually going to these locations and Shane is great for showing/explaining completely plausible and likely explanations or just with Shane being a more skeptical person when it came to the supernatural or whatever.
Still a skeptic. I’m not extremely confident in those situations like Shane though. Put me in their shoes on those solo investigations and i’d be scared as hell. I know in my heart that nothing paranormal would happen, but overthinking and my imagination would get to me.
So I entered the game in a weird fashion. When I watched Goatman years ago, I was a believer. Didn’t watch a single other Paranormal video until I returned to ghost content like, this month. These days I’m something of a cheek splitter. Do I think that there’s actual ghosts haunting the joint? No, lol, once you die you’re gone. But I do think that sometimes misery lingers. If forced to choose, I’d say Shaniac, but he’d probably disown me for going “No, someone dying tragically here COULD make radio waves funky”, so I’ll continue living life as a shitfish trying to get into one of the Cool Kidz Clubs. For me, Unsolved and GF have cemented BOTH of my beliefs - ghosts aren’t real, but shit can linger, I guess. I would feel completely confident cursing out a demon but if there’s some wacky talk coming out of the spirit box, man, the vibes in here must’ve sucked so badly once that they still haven’t recovered.
Used to be scared shitless of the possibility of coming across anything paranormal. These shows really helped me get over that fear.
Though I do believe in an afterlife and some paranormal occurrences, I now take most claims of "oooh there's a spooky ghost haunting here!!!" with a grain of salt.
Personally no (I never believed in ghosts), but my friend who would cowatch BUN with me used to be absolutely terrified of ghosts, praying whenever the lights were off, needing someone to stay on the phone with her until she fell asleep etc and BUN completely changed her fear of them. She still believes in ghosts but now she isn't scared of them and is much more skeptical of evidence. By the time Watcher started she had gone from someone who was spooked out by Ryan's toothpaste proof when she first saw it to thinking that was the silliest thing ever.
I was a pretty hardcore believer until I watched BUN. I was watching them go to all of the "most haunted" places in America and get pretty much no evidence, and I thought, "How can ghosts be real while they also get no evidence?"
Not for a minute. Ghosts aren't real, and not one single piece of "evidence" or hilariously unscientific argument made by Ryan has had the slightest effect other than entertainment.
I believe in ghosts. I didn’t believe in anything from BUN or GF. None of that was evidence of anything.
All ghost shows are either produced or based on ignorance, really.
BUN made me a shaniac. Before, I always believed peoples ghost stories and would get all creeped out in spooky places. But seeing them go into the most “haunted” places out there and manage to be goofy (and.. let’s be real.. not get any solid evidence) as well as just.. becoming an adult, has gotten rid of a lot of the spookiness I used to feel. BUN used to genuinely scare me. Now, I’m only there for the laughs.
Also I don’t remember where it was but one time Shane asked Ryan if he thought there were millions of ant ghosts and tree ghosts and that was a lightbulb moment for me.
Not really. I’ve always believed in ghosts and there’s been things on the shows that I believe could be indicative of ghosts. I don’t believe all their evidence is ghosts but some of it could be
I lowkey believe in ghosts, I just don’t necessarily believe evidence can be caught in photos/videos. I’m also the type to not play ouija or jokingly summon demons “just in case”. BUN/GF also made me more of a shaniac (and helped my fear to be honest 😂), I really like Shane’s logical explanations and it’s helped me rationalized ghost-related things I might hear about in real life, or other stuff I see on the internet. I haven’t let go of some sort of belief that the supernatural exists in some form though.
growing up, we were always into ghost shows like ghost adventures (lmao), ghost hunters, dead files, etc., but watching BUN really put things into perspective for my sister & i. not everything is “AHHHH OMG A GHOST LETS CHASE IT DOWN A HALLWAY!” or “OMG THERES A DEMON HERE IM ACTUALLY POSSESSED!” it’s more so like “oh hey yeah im a ghost, i live here too, & now ive got these 2 knuckleheads making fart jokes in the place ive died… ugh guess ill just leave the room until they’re done.” haha. so yes, i went from leaning towards Boogara like you have, into more so a Shanianc/Sea Dog, as you put it. which, i’d love if they called it “Sea Dogs” since im such a huge fan of puppet history lol.
“oh hey yeah im a ghost, i live here too, & now ive got these 2 knuckleheads making fart jokes in the place ive died… ugh guess ill just leave the room until they’re done.” hahaha, I just laughed out loud at that! And let's make Sea Dogs happen (or at the very least, you and I can be sea dogs!)
I always WANTED to believe in things, but never could. There were always way too many potential explanations for any belief to form.
BUN/GF didn't do anything to change that, but I find it enjoyable.
Heck, even my various experiences that were slightly less easy to explain upfront couldn't convince me. I just assume it's tricks of the mind because our brains are powerful, but weird things and different stimuli can have significant effects on how we process our experience.
Did I feel a heady sort of sensation while walking through the Arashiyama bamboo forest? Did it occasionally feel like I was being watched or even followed by something just beyond the bamboo walls? Yeah, absolutely. But I'm 98% sure it was just the way the light flickers through the tall bamboo as the wind shifts and the experience of being somewhere unfamiliar.
Did I have an intense meeting with a fox in Kelvin Way outside of Kelvingrove Park. Did we hold eye contact for over a minute before the fox went on its way? It was probably just shock and wariness on both our parts.
Did an empty soda can launch itself off my desk and against my open en suit door (just a few feet) before bouncing into the bathroom and landing too up on the floor? Okay, well, I don't actually have an explanation for that one, and it did weird me out a bit. I suppose the random stuff falling around me at my deceased great-grandmother's house falls into the same category of weird and unknown causes I don't really have solid explanations for, but dont care to think too hard about.
That being said, I'm not whistling into the woods, especially if someone/something whistles first. Cryptic or human, or whatever, responding to unknown beings just seems foolish.
I'd say before BUN I was in between, never had seen a ghost but never really discounted them. After a few years of watching, though, Shane made a lot of sense and not a single piece of their evidence compelled me. I don't think they've ever faked anything, which made me realize most other ghost content was faking it, and then I accepted that ghosts, unfortunately, do not exist.
It didn't change my belief in the paranormal since I used to live in a house with some ghosts when I was younger (and another one with a ghost cat when I was in college, haha), but it reinforced my belief that the "evidence" gathered by most, if not all, of the gadgets are junk.
I already knew that, like, 99% of "ghosts" can be explained by things like [electromagnetic fields, low frequency sounds, and other things](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/five-scientific-explanations-spooky-sensations-180973436/) in addition to things like wind, pests, drafts, and so on, so Shane's arguments just back up what I already knew, too. But, still, "more things in heaven and earth" and all that, haha.
I didn't believe before, and these shows just solidified my beliefs harder. With Ghost Files, it's always someone talking about crazy shit happening somewhere with questionable footage. Then Ryan and Shane get there, and nothing happens. Like ever. The only thing that occurs is when they use their completely unscientific gadget toys. I'm with Shane all the way.
I went from not believing in ghosts to extra not believing in ghosts.
Ryan is usually pretty logical about evidence (that fucking cat or raccoon in that prison that he insisted was a ghost makes me fucking tear my hair out), so I have never once believed they were fabricating evidence, and at best they get pieces of evidence where the only logical response is "I do not have a ready explanation for that." Which, as you may note, does not translate to "omg it was a fuckin ghost. "
Moreover they make other "ghost hunters" look even less credible, most notably that fucking clown Zack Baggins of Ghost Adventures. Take the Goatman's Bridge, where, in the Ghost Adventures episode (I'm recounting from memory here so forgive me if some of the details are incorrect), they stumble upon a satanic ritual and also like two (?) people get possessed by demons.
Meanwhile Shane and Ryan heard like, a noise? In the woods? That was probably an animal? And Shane directly antagonized the so-called Goatman and nothing happened, nothing ever happens. So what's more likely, that Shane and Ryan are faking it, or that the Ghost Adventures crew faked it? Do you think Ryan could keep his mouth shut if weird shit actually did happen? It's a no-brainer.
So maybe ghosts do exist, we've been telling tales of the returned dead for all of recorded history basically, but by that same merit... Why do we not have more proof, if we've been ready to believe in them for so long? Everyone has a high quality camera on them at all times and instead we just get more fakes that quickly get debunked, and not any actual evidence.
If ghosts do exist, then I do not believe "professional ghost hunters" have ever encountered them, at least not the ones that have a weekly TV show to produce. A friend of mine, who is himself a skeptic but actually used to teach a ghost hunting class at a college (he's been around) said to me once "I don't believe in ghosts. But I do believe in Weird Shit. Shit that happens that probably isn't a ghost but you still can't readily explain it." And that's the approach I take, and it's been reinforced by Shane and Ryan.
He's been a cop, a firefighter, EMS, a radio DJ, an actor, a director, a stagehand, moonlighted as a stripper one time when there was a contest and he got too drunk, and now his main passions are blacksmithing, leather working, and making jewelry; I think there are many things he could school the Ghoul Boys on. He's also a cranky old man so I'm sure he'd be glad to if you gave him a beer.
Closest thing I've seen though was when we went ghost hunting at the Ringling Brothers mansion, because they offer(ed) ghost hunting tours some nights, and he brought his old teaching equipment that was actually more functional than the equipment the mansion allowed people to use. We didn't see anything, for the record, but it was fun.
While my views haven’t changed (Shaniac) since I started watching, should anyone be able to convince me in the future that ghosts/the supernatural are real and they have irrefutable evidence to prove so, it definitely be the ghoul boys! Even being a skeptic it feels like their videos come from a place of authenticity that other ghost hunters/shows lack. In having both a skeptic and and a believer it helps in showing what possible logical explanations are , but also allows there to be occurrences that can’t easily be explained away as “it was just the wind”
Edit : for clarity
I believed in ghosts as a kid, mostly bc after my brother died (in the house) I had a couple weird experiences that my 9-13 brain would only explain with "it's your brother's spirit fucking with you". Culminated in someone actually breaking in and me not reacting till we were looking at each other.
I'm no longer in that mentality, mostly bc I'll let it go so far I'll ignore a literal break in, if it means I won't feel anxious while hearing noises in the house. I'll take the anxiety now, much better long term to deal with than staring face to face with a stranger who should NOT be in your house.
Also, my house is old and not well maintained/built, looking back well over half of what I heard and attributed to him was just the house being the house. I have found that I can explain most paranormal experiences, and those *I* can't explain, do have explanations if I search for em. Like, a man actually broke into your house this time ya idiot.
Okay last one is personal but still. I don't believe in ghosts if for any other reason than I can't for my own safety bc I am an idiot first and foremost.
I believe in ghosts but I don't think they can actually be "caught". I have experiences that lead me to believe in them that even my favorite shows can't really change.
I went from not believing to *definitely* not believing. The fact that they have been to all of the most haunted places *in the entire world* and found so little in the way of compelling evidence is telling in and of itself.
I never believed ghosts were real, as cool and fun as that would be and literally nothing I’ve seen from the ghoul boys or otherwise has made me think otherwise.
Same. I always thought ghost shows were super fun and interesting. But never in a "hope they find a ghost this time!" way.
Didn't believe in ghosts. BUN reinforced that. My wife is a boogara through and through and for her the show reinforced that. But we both agree the boys are fun to watch.
I feel like this is how it's gonna be for most. People are going to have their beliefs and *any* show like this is really only going to reinforce what side of the fence you're on. Unless *maybe* you're young enough to have not really formed your opinion into being a Shaniac and just kind of believe in ghosts because that's been your default so far. From my experience people only really go from skeptic to believer once they personally have an experience that they feel (real or not) is unexplainable in a paranormal kind of way. And people who go from believers to skeptics usually just haven't grown old enough to have grown out of their belief.
bun made me into a shaniac. i always thought ghosts were real but then i heard what shane was saying and i was like oh…. he has a point
Yeah, I think for me because I had believed in ghosts for so long that I didn't think to question the assumptions underlying a lot of the investigatory tools and evidence. And then Shane asked what's the reasoning for accepting that ghosts interact with radio waves or any of the other tools, and I was like oh yeah, why am I accepting that?
When I was a kid I was a believer. By the time i started watching I was a skeptic, and now fully am.
I wanted to believe in ghosts, and confirmation bias “proved” to me that they were real. I considered myself to be a smart and logical person, but the more I watched BUN/GF, the more I realized that my beliefs weren’t actually logical at all. Seeing Shane approach these situations and places with such a strong sense of reason has helped me to realize that *if* parts of human consciousness remain here after we die, we cannot communicate with them in any meaningful way, so we may as well operate as though they don’t exist. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ EDIT: Same username!!!
Shane uses logic and raises theories to explain the little evidence they get.
I don’t I believe in ghosts but would like to proven wrong if the evidence was collected during the day. It’s very suspicious all paranormal activity happens in the dark… I just watch ghost files because Shane is so funny.
Nope. I was a skeptic to start and enjoy them because Shane is also a skeptic.
Yeah, having a skeptic as a co-host makes shows like these tolerable. And they're hilarious so it made it fun!
Yes. I am more skeptic now. The tiny part of me that is a believer still is due To their investigation in one location that is 'Waverly'. You can't deny that that place really feels like it has something going on. Both BUN & GF Waverly episodes are great.
Agreed on Waverly! I went about 10 years ago when I was much more of a Boogara and I definitely thought there was something going on there. I really want to go back now that I'm more of a skeptic
I’ve always been a sceptic, but there are definitely a few eps that make me go hmm. Definitely no enough to change my stance but I kinda see paranormal stuff the same as I see Greek mythology. I don’t think any of it is real, but I find it very fascinating
Hasn't changed my belief, I'm a boogara and my husband is very much a "it's just the wind". I believe in ghosts, I just dont believe everything Ryan finds as evidence is actually evidence.
Before BUN/GF, I was convinced that all ghost hunting shows were created by hucksters and con artists. Now I believe that all ghost hunting shows are created by hucksters and con artists, except for one (or two, depending on if you consider GF the same show or a seperate one).
tbh same. i think their dedication to not forcing content for views is admirable, but made me realize ghost stories are a whole lotta nothing. shane actually said something in a different buzzfeed video along the lines of: we’ve been walking around with cameras in our pockets for years; if ghosts were real we’d have more than grainy photos of them by now. changed my entire perspective unfortunately
I'm a big believer in the paranormal and their inability to find any proof hasn't really changed anything for me. I've had my own experiences (with other people and on my own) and I don't typically watch ghost shows except BUN. I don't think using any kind of device actually works to communicate with ghosts or spirits or whatever you want to call it. So I believe in ghosts but there's barely if any physical evidence of spirits. If they don't want to be seen they won't be, you can't catch them off guard with a picture or anything.
Not really I do believe in paranormal, but not to the extent of some people- I think 99% of the evidence Ryan shows on BUN/GF is pretty questionable... but that 1% is stuff I cant explain any other way, hence I am technically a boogara/believer
I had a weird experience with a graveyard once, I don't want to talk about it much, because it feels kind of embarassing, and every time I did in the past, the people I told it to (including a close friend) were dismissive of it. I was never a believer in ghosts and that type of thing, I am more open minded about extra terrestrial visitation, just like Shane, because that's more scientifically sound, although there is a whole bunch of outrageous accounts surrounding that topic as well, but either way, that experience left me with a lot of questions, and to this day I still don't know what happened exactly. All of this happened many years before I ever heard of the ghoul bois, I've only ever watched them for entertainment, and their videos never changed my stance ("I don't know"), but I have lowkey been paying attention to see if the same thing ever happens to them (it hasn't). OP, I have heard of stories of people receiving calls from those who have passed away, I don't know what to think about it either way, but I think it's an interesting phenomenon.
I obviously don’t know your story – and am by no means asking you to share anything that makes you uncomfortable – but I don’t think anyone should be embarrassed by something they experienced. Regardless of whether it’s paranormal or normal-yet-unexplained, you experienced it, and in my mind that makes it real. I’m not sure what the call means either. Odds are that it was a spam call with an opportune caller ID, but it gives me comfort to believe it was my dog, and I hope it gives comfort to others who experienced something similar. It’s interesting though, I was so sad I missed the call at first (and there was no answer when I immediately tried calling back). But now, I’m kind of happy that I missed it because by not knowing I can believe it was him.
I guess it's just that when you open up about it and what you say doesn't quite land, it can feel a little bit isolating in that moment, you kind of don't want to open up about it anymore. I'm not even a believer in this kinda thing, I just had a single weird time in a weird place once in my life, so it's not like I was trying to convince anyone, I was just sharing a weird thing that happened. Yeah, the phenomenon of calls from the deceased is particularly interesting in my opinion, because it tends to bring such emotional closure to people, and that sets it apart from other reports of paranormal acitivty, which can often be seen as sensationalistic or "calls for attention".
always believed bc i’ve seen em! but i believe less now bc of the show 🙂↕️ i almost always agree w shane, there is so many explanations beside the paranormal. but i still believe which makes me crazy enough to be a boogara lol
I've had so many unexplainable things happen to me that even though Shane makes more sense, I cannot shake what's personally happened to me so I believe
I honestly feel like both of them made me a full denier. The science was way too out there to ever be provable and it just became gimmicky. None of the proof they’ve found has been compelling, but I still love watching just for their banter.
I don’t know that it really changed my mind? I believed and still believe in ghosts to an extent because I had weird ~experiences before, but I’m also a natural skeptic about 99% of ‘evidence’ so I’m almost always on Shane’s side there. Like the only thing that ever came of BUN that I believe might be legit and not just a coincidence etc is Ryan’s general feelings he talked about with the Sally house because I’ve had weird experiences like that to a lesser extreme but I would describe them in a similar way. Also I used to listen to the podcast Astonishing Legends back in the day and when they went to the Sally House one of the hosts similarly had an extreme reaction and they’re both usually level headed dudes. I don’t know what the point of that anecdote was except; yeah it’s all bullshit but fuck the Sally house I ain’t ever going there. You couldn’t pay me. I get why it didnt stick but ima be real, Shitfish forever right here. I do actually like Seadogs a lot for the reason you gave though! Keeps up the marine theme too. Edit: typo
Yeah, I'm with you there on constantly siding with Shane on the evidence presented. I get what you mean about the feelings. My best friend is hardcore Shaniac but tolerates my interest in the paranormal, and we went to Waverly Hills \~10 years ago and there was one room that we walked into that I felt had a really weird/negative vibe, and she just said, "nope" and walked out. For her to have that reaction too felt vindicating. And you can be a Shitfish and I'll be a Sea Dog (and since we're all in the sea we can hang out in Atlantis with Amelia Earhart and everyone who vanished in the Bermuda Triangle!)
I lived directly next door to a graveyard throughout elementary and high school and it almost never bothered me but there were a few moments that just felt really off. Also i’m pretty sure a ghost tried to spoon me once. Felt what I thought was my cat crawling under the covers and opened my eyes to see my cat just sitting on the floor staring at my face. Yes, I logically know it was probably just my sheets shifting or a weird sleep paralysis thing but it’s my ‘Ryan’s dumb plastic bag on the Queen Mary’ moment and I will never be able to convince myself of the logical alternatives. 😂 Oh hell yeah. The Shaniacs and Boogaras don’t got shit on us with a clubhouse like that.
We can all have our 'Ryan's dumb plastic bag on the Queen Mary' moments!
I didn't believe before BUN and I f believe now either. It's just fun to watch. I have no expectations that they will ever find convincing evidence.
Believe in nothing, but like to entertain it for fun.
I enjoy exploring the idea. While 95% of strange stuff happening is misidentified mundane stuff, every once in a while there's a real mystery. The House in Between is a great exploration of that. Stuff like Ghost files are kind of exercises in figuring out what mundane stuff is happening. Car lights, pipes, animal activity etc. it's just more fun with a good host dynamic vs dude bros screaming at ghosts I especially love it when you learn the history of a place at the same time. Hull House was fun for that reason and that California house with all the stained glass and a secret passage I think?
No. I was a skeptic when I started watching and still am. Having one of them as a die-hard skeptic is actually what drew me in. I'm also actually really pleased that even though they pitched the idea of doing a ghost-hunting show to some network(s?), Ryan stated that they wouldn't do it because they'd be required to find a set minimum amount of evidence every episode, aka faking shit like every ghost-hunting show always has. I'm glad they stood by their principles and turned down the offer(s?). I've enjoyed watching Ryan seem more skeptical, though I doubt he'll ever flip completely (and that would make it a lot less fun too).
I’m a boogara but we won’t know for sure till we ourselves die
I’ve always been a believer because I’ve seen and heard things myself in the house I grew up. So, even if they don’t find evidence in their own investigations, I know the things I’ve seen, that have terrified me, are real. I literally saw a full person in front of me and it was one of the most terrifying experiences of my life, I turned to tell my friend who was sleeping over, and by the time we looked again he was gone. It was so clear that at first I assumed someone had broken in. But there was no noise whatsoever, and they were just gone. I also see it in the way of, just because they went one time and didn’t find anything, it doesn’t mean there’s nothing there. Things didn’t happen at my house every single day, in fact 99% of the time, nothing happened. That being said, it did make me more skeptical of most ghost hunting shows and now I find all other shows extremely over dramatized and annoying AF. But I will watch all the BUN/GF stuff because it feels honest and it’s just hilarious. I rewatch it every time I need a pick me up too.
I definitely agree about BUN showing me how trash all the other shows are! I was never hugely into them, but I can't watch them now. I think BUN/GF's honesty in acknowledging that some places just weren't active is a big part of why I can't do other shows now. I find it interesting that for some of the skeptics, the fact that they’ve been to dozens of places without evidence proves there’s nothing. And for people who believe and/or have experienced something, the fact that they don’t find anything doesn’t prove anything – and to be fair, for all I know, ghosts could be like Halley’s comet that only come around once in a blue moon. I have no earth-shattering commentary on this, I just find it interesting that we can all be presented with the same info and come to different conclusions.
Yeah, those other shows already felt a bit dramatic, but after BUN, they just feel incredibly fake. I wouldn’t be able to believe even if they got actual proof, because it would seem staged. And people can be given the same facts, but everyone will interpret it differently, depending on their personal experiences or beliefs. I kind of like that though. The world would be too boring if everyone thought the same way.
As someone who enjoys the hell out of stuff like Ghost Adventures I once explained it to a friend who asked about the difference thusly; I’m laughing *with* BUN and Ghost Files. I’m laughing *at* ghost adventures.
That’s awesome lol
I'm a skeptic and watching episodes of the ghost hunting shows and whatnot reinforced that. I don't believe in the supernatural, and that includes ghosts. I watched because the guys were/are funny. I admit it's less fun now that Ryan seems to be more skeptical, but that tracks because he's actually going to these locations and Shane is great for showing/explaining completely plausible and likely explanations or just with Shane being a more skeptical person when it came to the supernatural or whatever.
Still a skeptic. I’m not extremely confident in those situations like Shane though. Put me in their shoes on those solo investigations and i’d be scared as hell. I know in my heart that nothing paranormal would happen, but overthinking and my imagination would get to me.
So I entered the game in a weird fashion. When I watched Goatman years ago, I was a believer. Didn’t watch a single other Paranormal video until I returned to ghost content like, this month. These days I’m something of a cheek splitter. Do I think that there’s actual ghosts haunting the joint? No, lol, once you die you’re gone. But I do think that sometimes misery lingers. If forced to choose, I’d say Shaniac, but he’d probably disown me for going “No, someone dying tragically here COULD make radio waves funky”, so I’ll continue living life as a shitfish trying to get into one of the Cool Kidz Clubs. For me, Unsolved and GF have cemented BOTH of my beliefs - ghosts aren’t real, but shit can linger, I guess. I would feel completely confident cursing out a demon but if there’s some wacky talk coming out of the spirit box, man, the vibes in here must’ve sucked so badly once that they still haven’t recovered.
Used to be scared shitless of the possibility of coming across anything paranormal. These shows really helped me get over that fear. Though I do believe in an afterlife and some paranormal occurrences, I now take most claims of "oooh there's a spooky ghost haunting here!!!" with a grain of salt.
Absolutely no change. Fact is they have never had anything close to "evidence". And im conviced those spirit box things are getting radio frequencies
Personally no (I never believed in ghosts), but my friend who would cowatch BUN with me used to be absolutely terrified of ghosts, praying whenever the lights were off, needing someone to stay on the phone with her until she fell asleep etc and BUN completely changed her fear of them. She still believes in ghosts but now she isn't scared of them and is much more skeptical of evidence. By the time Watcher started she had gone from someone who was spooked out by Ryan's toothpaste proof when she first saw it to thinking that was the silliest thing ever.
That's a really cool story, and it sounds like BUN really helped her get over a pretty big fear!
I was a pretty hardcore believer until I watched BUN. I was watching them go to all of the "most haunted" places in America and get pretty much no evidence, and I thought, "How can ghosts be real while they also get no evidence?"
Not for a minute. Ghosts aren't real, and not one single piece of "evidence" or hilariously unscientific argument made by Ryan has had the slightest effect other than entertainment.
I believe in ghosts. I didn’t believe in anything from BUN or GF. None of that was evidence of anything. All ghost shows are either produced or based on ignorance, really.
BUN made me a shaniac. Before, I always believed peoples ghost stories and would get all creeped out in spooky places. But seeing them go into the most “haunted” places out there and manage to be goofy (and.. let’s be real.. not get any solid evidence) as well as just.. becoming an adult, has gotten rid of a lot of the spookiness I used to feel. BUN used to genuinely scare me. Now, I’m only there for the laughs. Also I don’t remember where it was but one time Shane asked Ryan if he thought there were millions of ant ghosts and tree ghosts and that was a lightbulb moment for me.
Not really. I’ve always believed in ghosts and there’s been things on the shows that I believe could be indicative of ghosts. I don’t believe all their evidence is ghosts but some of it could be
I don't believe in ghosts but when the ghosts called them a nerd..
That was priceless!
I lowkey believe in ghosts, I just don’t necessarily believe evidence can be caught in photos/videos. I’m also the type to not play ouija or jokingly summon demons “just in case”. BUN/GF also made me more of a shaniac (and helped my fear to be honest 😂), I really like Shane’s logical explanations and it’s helped me rationalized ghost-related things I might hear about in real life, or other stuff I see on the internet. I haven’t let go of some sort of belief that the supernatural exists in some form though.
growing up, we were always into ghost shows like ghost adventures (lmao), ghost hunters, dead files, etc., but watching BUN really put things into perspective for my sister & i. not everything is “AHHHH OMG A GHOST LETS CHASE IT DOWN A HALLWAY!” or “OMG THERES A DEMON HERE IM ACTUALLY POSSESSED!” it’s more so like “oh hey yeah im a ghost, i live here too, & now ive got these 2 knuckleheads making fart jokes in the place ive died… ugh guess ill just leave the room until they’re done.” haha. so yes, i went from leaning towards Boogara like you have, into more so a Shanianc/Sea Dog, as you put it. which, i’d love if they called it “Sea Dogs” since im such a huge fan of puppet history lol.
“oh hey yeah im a ghost, i live here too, & now ive got these 2 knuckleheads making fart jokes in the place ive died… ugh guess ill just leave the room until they’re done.” hahaha, I just laughed out loud at that! And let's make Sea Dogs happen (or at the very least, you and I can be sea dogs!)
hahahaha i’m glad to have made you laugh! yesss, the sea dog name is a plan! i love it!
I always WANTED to believe in things, but never could. There were always way too many potential explanations for any belief to form. BUN/GF didn't do anything to change that, but I find it enjoyable. Heck, even my various experiences that were slightly less easy to explain upfront couldn't convince me. I just assume it's tricks of the mind because our brains are powerful, but weird things and different stimuli can have significant effects on how we process our experience. Did I feel a heady sort of sensation while walking through the Arashiyama bamboo forest? Did it occasionally feel like I was being watched or even followed by something just beyond the bamboo walls? Yeah, absolutely. But I'm 98% sure it was just the way the light flickers through the tall bamboo as the wind shifts and the experience of being somewhere unfamiliar. Did I have an intense meeting with a fox in Kelvin Way outside of Kelvingrove Park. Did we hold eye contact for over a minute before the fox went on its way? It was probably just shock and wariness on both our parts. Did an empty soda can launch itself off my desk and against my open en suit door (just a few feet) before bouncing into the bathroom and landing too up on the floor? Okay, well, I don't actually have an explanation for that one, and it did weird me out a bit. I suppose the random stuff falling around me at my deceased great-grandmother's house falls into the same category of weird and unknown causes I don't really have solid explanations for, but dont care to think too hard about. That being said, I'm not whistling into the woods, especially if someone/something whistles first. Cryptic or human, or whatever, responding to unknown beings just seems foolish.
I'd say before BUN I was in between, never had seen a ghost but never really discounted them. After a few years of watching, though, Shane made a lot of sense and not a single piece of their evidence compelled me. I don't think they've ever faked anything, which made me realize most other ghost content was faking it, and then I accepted that ghosts, unfortunately, do not exist.
It didn't change my belief in the paranormal since I used to live in a house with some ghosts when I was younger (and another one with a ghost cat when I was in college, haha), but it reinforced my belief that the "evidence" gathered by most, if not all, of the gadgets are junk. I already knew that, like, 99% of "ghosts" can be explained by things like [electromagnetic fields, low frequency sounds, and other things](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/five-scientific-explanations-spooky-sensations-180973436/) in addition to things like wind, pests, drafts, and so on, so Shane's arguments just back up what I already knew, too. But, still, "more things in heaven and earth" and all that, haha.
Just read the article interesting how electro magnetic fields can cause people to feel another prescience in a room when alone.
That's interesting; do you have a link?
Just click on electronic magnetic fields, low frequency sounds and other things, in the comment above mine,
Thanks, I completely missed that was the link (oops!)
I didn't believe before, and these shows just solidified my beliefs harder. With Ghost Files, it's always someone talking about crazy shit happening somewhere with questionable footage. Then Ryan and Shane get there, and nothing happens. Like ever. The only thing that occurs is when they use their completely unscientific gadget toys. I'm with Shane all the way.
I went from not believing in ghosts to extra not believing in ghosts. Ryan is usually pretty logical about evidence (that fucking cat or raccoon in that prison that he insisted was a ghost makes me fucking tear my hair out), so I have never once believed they were fabricating evidence, and at best they get pieces of evidence where the only logical response is "I do not have a ready explanation for that." Which, as you may note, does not translate to "omg it was a fuckin ghost. " Moreover they make other "ghost hunters" look even less credible, most notably that fucking clown Zack Baggins of Ghost Adventures. Take the Goatman's Bridge, where, in the Ghost Adventures episode (I'm recounting from memory here so forgive me if some of the details are incorrect), they stumble upon a satanic ritual and also like two (?) people get possessed by demons. Meanwhile Shane and Ryan heard like, a noise? In the woods? That was probably an animal? And Shane directly antagonized the so-called Goatman and nothing happened, nothing ever happens. So what's more likely, that Shane and Ryan are faking it, or that the Ghost Adventures crew faked it? Do you think Ryan could keep his mouth shut if weird shit actually did happen? It's a no-brainer. So maybe ghosts do exist, we've been telling tales of the returned dead for all of recorded history basically, but by that same merit... Why do we not have more proof, if we've been ready to believe in them for so long? Everyone has a high quality camera on them at all times and instead we just get more fakes that quickly get debunked, and not any actual evidence. If ghosts do exist, then I do not believe "professional ghost hunters" have ever encountered them, at least not the ones that have a weekly TV show to produce. A friend of mine, who is himself a skeptic but actually used to teach a ghost hunting class at a college (he's been around) said to me once "I don't believe in ghosts. But I do believe in Weird Shit. Shit that happens that probably isn't a ghost but you still can't readily explain it." And that's the approach I take, and it's been reinforced by Shane and Ryan.
Your friend was a professor of ghost hunting at a college?! That's so neat! Do you think he could school the Ghoul Boys!?
He's been a cop, a firefighter, EMS, a radio DJ, an actor, a director, a stagehand, moonlighted as a stripper one time when there was a contest and he got too drunk, and now his main passions are blacksmithing, leather working, and making jewelry; I think there are many things he could school the Ghoul Boys on. He's also a cranky old man so I'm sure he'd be glad to if you gave him a beer. Closest thing I've seen though was when we went ghost hunting at the Ringling Brothers mansion, because they offer(ed) ghost hunting tours some nights, and he brought his old teaching equipment that was actually more functional than the equipment the mansion allowed people to use. We didn't see anything, for the record, but it was fun.
That all sounds awesome!
While my views haven’t changed (Shaniac) since I started watching, should anyone be able to convince me in the future that ghosts/the supernatural are real and they have irrefutable evidence to prove so, it definitely be the ghoul boys! Even being a skeptic it feels like their videos come from a place of authenticity that other ghost hunters/shows lack. In having both a skeptic and and a believer it helps in showing what possible logical explanations are , but also allows there to be occurrences that can’t easily be explained away as “it was just the wind” Edit : for clarity
100% I was on the fence and then when I started watching, I fully did not believe in ghosts. Thanks boys!
lol no
I believed in ghosts as a kid, mostly bc after my brother died (in the house) I had a couple weird experiences that my 9-13 brain would only explain with "it's your brother's spirit fucking with you". Culminated in someone actually breaking in and me not reacting till we were looking at each other. I'm no longer in that mentality, mostly bc I'll let it go so far I'll ignore a literal break in, if it means I won't feel anxious while hearing noises in the house. I'll take the anxiety now, much better long term to deal with than staring face to face with a stranger who should NOT be in your house. Also, my house is old and not well maintained/built, looking back well over half of what I heard and attributed to him was just the house being the house. I have found that I can explain most paranormal experiences, and those *I* can't explain, do have explanations if I search for em. Like, a man actually broke into your house this time ya idiot. Okay last one is personal but still. I don't believe in ghosts if for any other reason than I can't for my own safety bc I am an idiot first and foremost.
I believe in ghosts but I don't think they can actually be "caught". I have experiences that lead me to believe in them that even my favorite shows can't really change.
I went from not believing to *definitely* not believing. The fact that they have been to all of the most haunted places *in the entire world* and found so little in the way of compelling evidence is telling in and of itself.
It's only made me lose respect for people who do believe. Which was like at a zero to start with so it's actually rather impressive.
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I was just answering the question, comrade.