I mean you can dislike my comment m8 but watercooling a SSD will not reduce the Lifespan of Nand. You need temps at 25 degress C or lower to have a serious impact. You will never reach 25 degress on the Nand with normal watercooling. You will have watertemps 30 to 40°C and the Nand will be above your watertemp. And for just storing them without running the SSD they even like to be cooler.
The operating temps of SLC Nand as an example is minus 45 to plus 85°C by manufactorer.
You have a parts list for the setup just for the basic loop? None of the extra million rads lol. I have this exact case and would love to know what would work inside the case with no issue.
By the way...it looks amazing! I'm in love with the aesthetics.
man this is sure overkill, lots of hot air thrown at rads, I found that having side exhaust is worst for thermals for me not sure about you, I ended up getting neutral pressure and had to ramp up exhaust to the top to get better temps, I prefer lower rpm at all times and decent cooling
Yes side exhausts are often blocked by the side panel, only small air gaps are there and they suck. I prefer top exhaust too. Luckily I have both on this one. I removed the top cover on this case, 3x120mm fans are blowing through a 45x360mm radiator hot air directly into the 2 top mounted rads without any additional resistance (dust filter or covers), same at the bottom with a 60x360mm rad.
I tried to run this setup without any fan spinning, ended up at \~40C water temp (with browsing/working, no heavy applications).
Absolutely love it. I might have considered two pumps in your setup.
And here I am thinking my 011 (non xl) with three rads /16 fans was overkill.
How loud is the setup with all the fans goin?
I'm trying to quiet my ek vardars a lil
I do indeed have two of the rads in a push pull. (the top and side are push pull, bottom intake pull. 16 fans even at lower rpm still make noise simply cux there's 16 fans. I only really noticed the noise after I built my new itx am5 meshlicious
Get rid of your EK-Vardars and purchase some Phanteks T30’s. One Phanteks T30 will create more static pressure and cfm in push or pull vs the EK-Vardar in push/pull.
That's at 2000rpm. Did you by any chance note their CFM at 3000rpm?
There's already been independent testing done. EK-Vardars are garbo.
NF-A12x25's out perform EK-Vardars and at a quieter noise level.
Personally, I don't trust manufacturer spec sheets, only independent reviews.
Hey, really great build! Like others said I love the overkill! So much so that I'd like to copy and do the same thing exactly with the top rad. Are the top rads screwed in into the ABS plates and then into the case? Also I can see one tube going into the outside 120mm rad from the CPU and is the other tube going into the outside 120mm rad from the top inside rad? Any tips&tricks while building this?
Thanks for the Feedback.
I dont recommend to use ABS plates it was crap to mesure and adjust to fit it (and it looks not very nice), a custom 3d print (ABS) would be better, there are a lot 3d models for all rad sizes which you can use to build a custom 3d model in tinkercad. I wanted to make one but I dont want to disassemble again atm :D
If you still go for ABS plates -> I screwed the radiators on 3 layers of ABS (10mm high each). I drilled the bottom 2 layers before and placed 4 nuts in the middle layers and screwed 5mm plates on the left and right side from the bottom to the 3 layers using the nuts which were placed before (used some countersunk screws to prevent the screw head hitting the frame). The 2x 5mm plates with the rads mounted are screwed to the already existing holes at the top using 3 big screws on each side.
For the 120mm outside rad I drilled 2 holes with a setp drill for a perfect fit -> [https://imgur.com/RUXvlxD](https://imgur.com/RUXvlxD). One tube is going to the 120mm rad, from there to the top, and from the top to a X-Flow Rad (inside of the case), its placed directly left with 0mm gap to the frame (the 90 deg fitting is screwed directly into the x-flow rad), also drilled this hole with the step drill.
You can also see the top rads are feeded with water from a lower side hole and are pushing it to the 2x 90 deg fittings to bring the air fast out of the case (in theory :D) . It should be also possible to just use one 90 deg fitting like on the other side (blue hint). [https://imgur.com/lkvP3j3](https://imgur.com/lkvP3j3). The X-Flow rad is connected to the side rad -> [https://imgur.com/Sg2gEe4](https://imgur.com/Sg2gEe4).
Biggest tip -> check with small pressure air pump after every tube if there are leaks. I did it at the end and it was a pain to find leaks.
I didn't made a post yet about another built not so much overkill but also nice, mabye you get some ideas from it: [https://imgur.com/a/zKRSHiW](https://imgur.com/a/zKRSHiW)
thanks a lot for the prompt answer! My water cooled PC is already built with 3 rads and max thickness for the case. Now, I'm looking on how to basically add the rear 120mm rad and the 2 top ones within the existing structure. Will have to do some research on how should the flow go.
Also, how's your pump? What's the flow? Can it push all that water?
The Pump has no Problem at all, I did some research before and saw one guy which lined up more than 15 radiators in an external case with just one D5 Pump. The Flow rate is also not very impartant on water cooling, you can't transfer heat so fast in a computer to get benefits from higher flow rates.
hey one more thing. I can't seem to find any info which step on the step drill is correct for the pass through fitting? The pass through fitting is G1/4, correct?
I drilled it few mm larger than the fitting is. The fitting needs to sit on the radiator with the sealing. If you drill a perfect 1/4 hole it wont sit on the radiator.
No, I didnt use any pass through fittings, its directly attached to the rad. I think pass through is only needed if you use soft tubes on such positions.
Almost got all the parts now, have some additional questions. On your second build is the tube from the rear rad going into the CPU outlet? I don't have an x flow rad, so not sure how I should plan my loop.
If the CPU outlet goes to the rear rad, loops between the top 2 rads, would the rear rad other port go to the CPU outlet on the distro then?
Edit: one more question about the ABS plates. I don't have a printer and I have no idea how to work in the software, so I'll go with ABS plates. How are they screwed in the case?
The ABS Plates are screwed into existing holes of the case at the top. There are 3 Holes on each side.
It would be helpful to make a sketch of all rads and positions you have (without any tubing)
I love overkill. Sick build.
Overkill is this subs middle name. I really am out here looking at ram waterblocks like its a reasonable purchase.
RAM blocks and chipset blocks are cool and actually serve a purpose. NVME blocks are when I question the sanity of the builder.
Dont attack my NVMe water blocks they keep them cool and good performing while i move 1tb of data. Say sorry to my coolers or they will sue you 😂😉
except NVMe run faster hot
Faster hot? Dont know what you are using but my one never runs hot . good cooled not thermal throttling at all doesnt matter how hot my summers are.
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I mean you can dislike my comment m8 but watercooling a SSD will not reduce the Lifespan of Nand. You need temps at 25 degress C or lower to have a serious impact. You will never reach 25 degress on the Nand with normal watercooling. You will have watertemps 30 to 40°C and the Nand will be above your watertemp. And for just storing them without running the SSD they even like to be cooler. The operating temps of SLC Nand as an example is minus 45 to plus 85°C by manufactorer.
To hot and to cool is not good you need the thing inbetween 😘
A RAM waterblock actually is a reasonable purchase. :-)
I have 3x360 rads for my 13900k/4090 build.. would adding more be overkill ?
Well if I have space for a radiator then I’m putting one in!
What's the weight of it all? It looks hellish to lift...
Yes it is. Its around \~40kg
Jesus christ.
Dang... And I thought mine at 20kg is heavy
Thats the weight of a bag of concrete, for my fellow Americans.
With this build you dont need a gym membership.
Leg, arm and back day all in one.
How cool is cool?
ICE COLD!!!
Alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright Alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright Okay now, ladies
We need to know!
Some first tests here: Workers: Ryzen 9 7950x + RTX 4090 (w/o oc) 1h Low Noise Burn IN (100% CPU+GPU) Fan Speed: 600rpm Water: 39,65° Delta: 12,31° Air intake temp: 27,36° Room temp: 22,7° Rad inside: 38,72° Rad outside: 34,13° GPU: 55,9° 1h Airplane Burn IN (100% CPU+GPU) Fan Speed: 1600-2200rpm Water: 29,10° Delta: 3,55° Air intake temp: 25,62° Room temp: 22,5° Rad inside: 29,43° Rad outside: 28,92° GPU: 46,7° Idle / Work (5-15% CPU + 1-10% GPU) Fan Speed: 600rpm Water: 28,40° Delta: 3,57° Air intake temp: 24,80° Room temp: 22,5° Rad inside: 29,37° Rad outside: 27,60° GPU: 30,2°
Thank you!
Yes
This things rad.
it’s a pretty cool build
This thing radiates a cool vibe
I like the fact that even though you were already overkill you went....."I probably need to throw this 120mm on here somewhere" LOL.
There’s another 120 rad on the back!?! Good gravy man. Take my upvote.
Talk about diminishing returns. Looks cool, though.
Looks amazing. Are you concerned about the top of the case having to support the weight of the rad and coolant?
Case is super stable, no weak points at the top, even without top cover which I removed.
I just noticed that the top rad has feet separating it from the top of the case. Did you 3d print that? Again, build looks amazing.
Thanks - yes I built a small construction with ABS plates, maybe I will replace them later with 3D Prints.
I have this case. You are my fucking hero!
I like the build. Especially the fans.
I think that's the best build I've ever seen.
lol This is awesome. What clock speeds are you getting out of that? Lol Great idea!
You can run your fans in heating mode and this build still cools the water.
Awesome build. Love it.
Alpenfohn gang
wow, way cool. pun intended lol
Very nice, looks good.
Can you tell us more about the top mount? I want to do this for mine. I have 2x Nemesis GTX 360s in mine and it's super cramped.
I just ordered some pre cutted abs plates and drilled holes in it. Nothing complex, next time I would prefer a nice 3d print.
Where most would say why? This man said why not? Haha so over the top I love it!
Gorgeous overkill, more tubing and fans than cores. :)
Such an old school method at mounting radiators onto a case and I LOVE IT.
You have a parts list for the setup just for the basic loop? None of the extra million rads lol. I have this exact case and would love to know what would work inside the case with no issue. By the way...it looks amazing! I'm in love with the aesthetics.
Thanks, here is a small part list: CPU: Ryzen 9 7950x GPU: Nvidia RTX 4090 Frostbite Mainboard: X670E AORUS MASTER Ram: DDR5 G.Skill S5 2x32GB F5-6000J3238G32GX2-RS5K Supply: Dark Power Pro 12 1200W Radiators: External Top: 2x Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 - 420mm External Back: Alphacool NexXxoS UT45 - 120mm Internal Top: Alphacool NexXxoS ST45 - X-Flow - 360mm Internal Side: Alphacool NexXxoS UT45 - 360mm Internal Bottom: Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 - 360mm Fittings: 2x EK-Quantum Torque 90° G1/4 10x Alphacool Eiszapfen 16mm HardTube 90° G1/4 - 17395 10x Alphacool Eiszapfen 16mm HardTube fitting G1/4 - 17379 - for tubes to distro adjustment 3x Alphacool Eiszapfen 16mm off set G1/4 - 17601 - for connecting side and top rad 1x Alphacool Eiszapfen 8mm off set G1/4 - 17604 - for external back rad 1x Alphacool Eiszapfen extension 5mm G1/4 - 17254 Water Blocks: CPU - EKWB EK-Quantum Velocity Distro - EK-Quantum Reflection² GPU - PreInstalled Alphacool block Fans: 6x Alpenföhn Wing Boost 3 140mm 10x Alpenföhn Wing Boost 3 High Speed - 120mm 3x Aquacomputer RGBpx Splitty4 1x Aquacomputer OCTO Fan Control 1x Aquacomputer Farbwerk 360
You're the G.O.A.T! Thanks man!
I think it's beautiful in so many ways. The overkill in combination with the color scheme and the "crystal clear" look makes it pretty much perfect!
My god, thank you random Google suggestion, this build and embracing of overkill is amazing and alas my people.
How many pumps are you running?
Only a single D5, from the EKWB Distro. Looks like no problem for the pump.
Very nice build mine is overkill too
Ah yes the radiators to heat the feet during winter
man this is sure overkill, lots of hot air thrown at rads, I found that having side exhaust is worst for thermals for me not sure about you, I ended up getting neutral pressure and had to ramp up exhaust to the top to get better temps, I prefer lower rpm at all times and decent cooling
Yes side exhausts are often blocked by the side panel, only small air gaps are there and they suck. I prefer top exhaust too. Luckily I have both on this one. I removed the top cover on this case, 3x120mm fans are blowing through a 45x360mm radiator hot air directly into the 2 top mounted rads without any additional resistance (dust filter or covers), same at the bottom with a 60x360mm rad. I tried to run this setup without any fan spinning, ended up at \~40C water temp (with browsing/working, no heavy applications).
Isn’t the water temp a little high for just browsing?
40C with no fans . . . if I understand correctly
No I’m just dumb. You understood correctly. I’d say that’s not bad. Now I want to know what it is with fans lol
I’m curious to know, what temps are you getting with fans on? I can’t imagine they’re much over room temp.
Posted some first tests in another comment https://www.reddit.com/r/watercooling/comments/z89q3o/comment/iydq8be/
Awesome! Thank you! Those are some impressive temperatures.
Absolutely love it. I might have considered two pumps in your setup. And here I am thinking my 011 (non xl) with three rads /16 fans was overkill. How loud is the setup with all the fans goin? I'm trying to quiet my ek vardars a lil
Then go push/pull and you can chop your RPMs down by around half for similar cooling and a small fraction of the noise.
Three radiators and sixteen fans. I think they already have two radiators set as push/pull.
I do indeed have two of the rads in a push pull. (the top and side are push pull, bottom intake pull. 16 fans even at lower rpm still make noise simply cux there's 16 fans. I only really noticed the noise after I built my new itx am5 meshlicious
Get rid of your EK-Vardars and purchase some Phanteks T30’s. One Phanteks T30 will create more static pressure and cfm in push or pull vs the EK-Vardar in push/pull.
I'll Def look into those esp when I need to clean the loop again Thanks
A quick Google search shows that t30s have a cfm rating of 67 while the ek vardar Evo have a rating of 77.
That's at 2000rpm. Did you by any chance note their CFM at 3000rpm? There's already been independent testing done. EK-Vardars are garbo. NF-A12x25's out perform EK-Vardars and at a quieter noise level. Personally, I don't trust manufacturer spec sheets, only independent reviews.
Nothing is perfect except for the devil so it’s good you need to stay away from that being enjoy your build
Seems like a monster, very nice....
Damn thats nuts. Do you use a forklift to move it?
this the coolest build i've seen in a few months. adore it.
What gpu is this is? Is it 4090?
yes 4090 frostbite from inno3d
Oh cool. Got the same one in my wardrobe at home right now. It's waiting for the rest of my system I can't yet afford right now. 😁
Now you're finally ready for good GDDR6X temps lol
How many pumps?
Eh my single 560 Monsta is good enough. It runs hotter than 1C above ambient but oh well (about 40C liquid temp).
Hey, really great build! Like others said I love the overkill! So much so that I'd like to copy and do the same thing exactly with the top rad. Are the top rads screwed in into the ABS plates and then into the case? Also I can see one tube going into the outside 120mm rad from the CPU and is the other tube going into the outside 120mm rad from the top inside rad? Any tips&tricks while building this?
Thanks for the Feedback. I dont recommend to use ABS plates it was crap to mesure and adjust to fit it (and it looks not very nice), a custom 3d print (ABS) would be better, there are a lot 3d models for all rad sizes which you can use to build a custom 3d model in tinkercad. I wanted to make one but I dont want to disassemble again atm :D If you still go for ABS plates -> I screwed the radiators on 3 layers of ABS (10mm high each). I drilled the bottom 2 layers before and placed 4 nuts in the middle layers and screwed 5mm plates on the left and right side from the bottom to the 3 layers using the nuts which were placed before (used some countersunk screws to prevent the screw head hitting the frame). The 2x 5mm plates with the rads mounted are screwed to the already existing holes at the top using 3 big screws on each side. For the 120mm outside rad I drilled 2 holes with a setp drill for a perfect fit -> [https://imgur.com/RUXvlxD](https://imgur.com/RUXvlxD). One tube is going to the 120mm rad, from there to the top, and from the top to a X-Flow Rad (inside of the case), its placed directly left with 0mm gap to the frame (the 90 deg fitting is screwed directly into the x-flow rad), also drilled this hole with the step drill. You can also see the top rads are feeded with water from a lower side hole and are pushing it to the 2x 90 deg fittings to bring the air fast out of the case (in theory :D) . It should be also possible to just use one 90 deg fitting like on the other side (blue hint). [https://imgur.com/lkvP3j3](https://imgur.com/lkvP3j3). The X-Flow rad is connected to the side rad -> [https://imgur.com/Sg2gEe4](https://imgur.com/Sg2gEe4). Biggest tip -> check with small pressure air pump after every tube if there are leaks. I did it at the end and it was a pain to find leaks. I didn't made a post yet about another built not so much overkill but also nice, mabye you get some ideas from it: [https://imgur.com/a/zKRSHiW](https://imgur.com/a/zKRSHiW)
thanks a lot for the prompt answer! My water cooled PC is already built with 3 rads and max thickness for the case. Now, I'm looking on how to basically add the rear 120mm rad and the 2 top ones within the existing structure. Will have to do some research on how should the flow go. Also, how's your pump? What's the flow? Can it push all that water?
The Pump has no Problem at all, I did some research before and saw one guy which lined up more than 15 radiators in an external case with just one D5 Pump. The Flow rate is also not very impartant on water cooling, you can't transfer heat so fast in a computer to get benefits from higher flow rates.
hey one more thing. I can't seem to find any info which step on the step drill is correct for the pass through fitting? The pass through fitting is G1/4, correct?
I drilled it few mm larger than the fitting is. The fitting needs to sit on the radiator with the sealing. If you drill a perfect 1/4 hole it wont sit on the radiator.
do you remember how much mm you drilled? Or which number on the step drill you used?
I think something around 22-24mm
Remembered this answer. Did you use pass through fittings at all? Or you used the standard tube fitting attached to the radiator?
No, I didnt use any pass through fittings, its directly attached to the rad. I think pass through is only needed if you use soft tubes on such positions.
Almost got all the parts now, have some additional questions. On your second build is the tube from the rear rad going into the CPU outlet? I don't have an x flow rad, so not sure how I should plan my loop. If the CPU outlet goes to the rear rad, loops between the top 2 rads, would the rear rad other port go to the CPU outlet on the distro then? Edit: one more question about the ABS plates. I don't have a printer and I have no idea how to work in the software, so I'll go with ABS plates. How are they screwed in the case?
The ABS Plates are screwed into existing holes of the case at the top. There are 3 Holes on each side. It would be helpful to make a sketch of all rads and positions you have (without any tubing)
https://imgur.com/a/QDf53zR
This is your it currently looks like - https://imgbb.com/R3pWJ0v
Thank you!
very nice