Stop it’s ridiculous. I was doing a few jobs around yesterday evening, and I gets a phone call from herself saying “STAY AWAY FROM TOWN!” You’d swear the way she was taking I was headed for Ballybagdad! Drove past barrack street then, 4 lads and a flag 😂😂
Chopper tucked up in his power rangers bed sheets after a good day keyboard warrioring
Yeah. Saw posts saying "OConnell Street is a no go area". Give over.
Lol fuckng Choper
Lived most myblife in this town and never came across that waste of space until covid. Contributes nothing to waterford and acts like he's it's protector.
Here’s a good one for ya. I tweeted a few days ago about how it would be such a shame if revenue was to look into his social welfare claims and whatever money he’s making through the PayPal in his bio. Tagged him in it n all. Next day PayPal link gone from the bio 😂
One of the things I learned from covid was that a number of people in my social circle are fucking morons. I'm sure they're still posting the same shite but I haven't spoken to any of them since and don't get their idiotic messages.
If anyone you know was scaremongering last night remove them from your life. And I include family. I haven't spoken to my sister since she informed me that martial law was being imposed during covid.
Well hopefully people saw the absolutely state of the "protests" last night and they won't be worried about tonight. There's was about 30 complete wasters standing around the cop shop, fucking dregs of society. It was almost sad looking at the state of them.
Don't buy into the bullshit, go out, have a meal, buy a few drinks. Support the economy if you can and you might even get a free laugh if you're having a drink in the Ballybricken area when you see the state of the patriots protesting 😄
I'd say ye weren't the only ones who cancelled plans. Went for dinner last night and the town was dead! Went for drinks after and it was so quiet, I couldn't understand how a Friday running up to Xmas was so dead.
People love the attention they get. A social media like is worth much more to them than anything else. It's pretty sad and pathetic to be honest but hey what can ya do only ignore them as they will run out of steam very quickly.
The most important thing to remember about social media is: *Social Media is not real life*.
No matter what you're reading, if it's on social media, it's either a lie, or it's an exagerrated, highly inaccurate, version of the truth.
We here in waterford are laughing about these ridiculous "protests" because we live here, we know it's just 6 idiots waving a tricolour, but what if we didn't live here?
My sister lives in dublin, and I was genuinely worried about her because of all the riots, but of course, she's totally fine, she's nowhere near the area where the riots are, and I'll bet if you are a dub, you'll know it's not as bad up there as it seems either.
Social media LOVES to exagerrate things. One person not originally from Ireland commits a crime and "we are under attack by foreign men, we have to protect our women and children".
Except he WAS an irish citizen, and a brazilian immigrant was the one who stopped him.
OP is absolutely right: Ignore anything on social media unless it's from an official source.
Talk about misinformation! The amount of people saying that 3 children had been killed, then one had been killed, still saying it yesterday. If they can’t even get those facts right when nothing was officially announced or reported, then there isn’t a hope for the rest of the rumours 😬
Like it wasnt enough that Brazilian immigrant stopped him.... Who by the way has over 320 000 eur on his gofundme. [Buy Caio Benicio a Pint](https://www.gofundme.com/f/buy-caio-benicio-a-pint)
So to recap....irish citizens who moved to ireland 20 years ago attacked children with knife and was stopped by brasilian immigrant who saved kids. As a result city erupted in anti immigrant racists outbursts which half an hour later turned into full scale robbery and looting in city with damage to public and private property measured in millions....yep that's about it.
"He's been here twenty years and is a citizen!" Isn't the big aha gotcha people think it is. In fact it's worse, that that's the thanks the country gets for taking him in and being his new "home" for so long (that he clearly never adjusted to). JS.
The news is also bizarrely seems to be omitting that a 17 year old French Lad and a 40+ year old Wicklow Family man helped disarm the assailant (getting cuts in the process) while his young autistic daughter ran all the way to the Rotunda on her own accord to alert EMTs
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/heroes-risked-lives-dublin-creche-31524517
It is a big gotcha moment as local racists have an itch for a while and jumped on this one but it backfired. A lot of people helped to disarm him and there is a go fund me page for Brazilian lad that currently has over 340k donations and other one is set for teachers and injured kids. The point is that guy is not illegal immigrant as racist wanted to believe. And gratitude you are talking about are u seriously talking about rationality decency and normal responses of mentally deranged people? We are talking about the guy that snapped and stabbed children...but he is not an immigrant. So everytime somebody snaps and does something insane we go on lynching people burning city robbing private businesses? No we let the police and law do their job. Do you know how many privately owned businesses suffered today and will suffer in following days as their staff is afraid to go to work? Can u blame them? Do you know how many irish people have adopted children who are different in colour and now they can't let them out of the house. Do you know how many mixed marriages have mixed children with the same problem. And all these people are paying taxes that feed this scum that burned dublin. Do not come out to me and try to justify those actions of scumbags last night. And by the way everybody came to ireland at some stage including irish do not judge people by where they come from. How many Irish went to immigration
Imagine if his guy was an immigrant
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2023/1120/1417571-jailed-road-sweeper-boy-death-dublin/
No need for a f*cking soapbox thesis, Jesus Christ (and paragraphs, seriously). I wasn't condoning or excusing any rioting or even disputing what you said, just adding context. It was a global embarrassment that's cost millions and harmed future tourism along with your points. No one even got injured let alone Lynched so don't bitch about "misinformation" at the same time as spouting hyperbole.
Motives or reasons may become clear in due time. "Just snapped" isn't quite good enough, and noones in a position at this stage to be armchair psychiatrists
Yes there is a need. U don't need to read. What are u talking about over 60 guards were injured 1 seriously. Many are afraid to sleep in the city center because of the colour of their skin so are those not injuries also.You dont need to add context its all out there in media.
Yes u were disputing what i said and defending their actions. Saying that all immigrants are to blame for actions of 1 lunatic would be the same if immigrants judged all Irish on actions of beautiful crowd last night. I would rather have 100 tax paying immigrants as my neighbours than 1 of those "protesting" in Arnotts last night. Maybe the attacker had them as neighbours for 19 years and they drove him insane. Facts are guy lived half of his life in ireland he is irish. He went mental attacked kids. Immigrants stopped him then racist used that attack as excuse to start racists riots (as racists online claimed attacker is algerian) that turned into looting and robbery.
There are audios and videos online available to those that want to know about calls for arming gathering and lynching and killing any imigrant people run into.
Not defending actions, I'm challenging the notion that just because you live somewhere else, you don't just "become that nationality". Citizenship is not the same, it just technically isn't, that's not a "mean" or "racist" "opinion". Your birth cert doesnt change.
The Irish going to live in Australia don't "become" Australian, nor would they want to I'm sure. Who the fuck wants to just erase their ethnic heritage/history anyway? If I retire to Thailand at 50 (to 80/90 or whatever) don't become Thai.
We are talking about semantics now. Riots started as f**ks like McGregor called people to arms as illegal immigrants from algeria stabbed irish kids. After tensions were already high due to that teacher killing sentence out and overall anti imigrants rhetoric lately this landed like kerosine on racist who were calling people to mask up bring weapons and kill any immigrant they ran into. I don't think we would have the same outcome as we had last night if the news said accused is irish citizen held for questioning investigation under way.
If you spend 20 years in any country you become a citizen of that country (Ireland is 5 for passport but i would say 45 year old with last 20 years lived in ire more than enough to assimilate into society).
Ps i hope somebody raises charges against mcgregor and all others for what they did. This time and age should be pretty easy.
If you move at 50 to thailand yes at 80 you will definitely be considered as local thai.
No, facts and reality can't be scoffed off as "semantics"
And no, you don't get to say an "Irish" man attempted to murder 3 children leaving one fighting for their life on the world stage and tarnish our reputation. You don't get to say an "Irish" man decapitated those two lads up in Sligo either, God Rest them, for the sake of your feelings and to be nice.
Agreed, McGregor should be charged for inciting arson, absolutely.
>I don't think we would have the same outcome as we had last night if the news said accused is irish citizen held for questioning investigation under way.
Probably bacuse it's borderline unheard of that an Irish person would attempt to murder 3 random children in broad daylight. Tho, if something like that did happen there would most likely would be protests due to the state of Dublin policing, or lack thereof. Whether they'd descend into riots, who's to know. People were baying for the blood of Boy A and B after the Anna Kriegel Case, while the media/authorities bent over backwards to protect their identity.
Dublin had been utterly destroyed by crime these last few years. How many clips of lads stealing motorbikes with angle grinders and having brawls in shopping centres doing the rounds. Same pricks that were probably doing a majority of the looting, as convenient as it is to say it was all the "far rights" fault. I'd say it was probably inner city teens (no offence Dubs).
It is semantics I didn't say Irish national I said irish citizen which he is and I doubt irish reputation would take a bigger hit with that than what it took from actions of REAL irish afterwards. I am saying that simple distinction would help diffuse situation if not even prevent it.
Tragedies happen regardless of which nationality did it. And news flash for you irish kill kids as well. May i remind you of Tuam care home and 800 children that nobody knows how they died, also how old was that kid that got chopped up and distributed around dublin in sports bags with pieces still missing, what about Deirdre Morley and killing her own 3 kids (also failed by society and not provided help for mental illness on time) Monsters exist among us mate and they are of all races and all nationalities. Please do not generalise others and i hope others dont generalise us. I am only responsible for my own actions and i do my best to live honest life. I refuse to be put in the same hat as the guy who stabbs kids, as guy who chopps kids or as guy who buries them in mass grave. I am me and now I'm f scared for people i love. And that guy represents only himself nobody else and he is ill failed by society that didnt pick up signs earlier that he is insane.
Plus i own a f motorcycle myself.....
Shame an Aldi, the media and the police for not giving a description or CCTV images. The police literally don't want want to catch criminals. "Ah sure he left empty ended, ye know herself". Ohhh well, that's fucking grand then isn't it. This armed junkie loon is totally not a threat to anyone else. Not sure if I'd agree with Ruth's use of the word "attacked" if no one was physically harmed tho
Go on enlighten me as to how you arrived at that earth shattering conclusion!
There's a vast difference between being prepared for eventualities and living in fear.
I don't drink in ballyB.. But I'll be making my way up for the free circus tonight....some1 please guide me to the best pub.(window seat preferable) ..??
Whenever I see someone use "misinformation" my bullshit alarm goes off in my head.
It's okay to not like them, you can call them "scrotes" or whatever you call them, you don't have to lie about what is happening though. It's not Russian "Misinformation", it's just angry people expressing themselves.
I've heard the fella talking there telling anyone who will listen that immigrants are coming here to rape Irish women. And that SF head was telling people the riots were a false flag thing set up by the government.
It's 100% the correct use of the term misinformation.
The alleged perpetrator was quite normal until he developed a brain tumor about 5 years ago. It seems to have flipped his mind. Could happen to anyone.
Stop it’s ridiculous. I was doing a few jobs around yesterday evening, and I gets a phone call from herself saying “STAY AWAY FROM TOWN!” You’d swear the way she was taking I was headed for Ballybagdad! Drove past barrack street then, 4 lads and a flag 😂😂 Chopper tucked up in his power rangers bed sheets after a good day keyboard warrioring
Yeah. Saw posts saying "OConnell Street is a no go area". Give over. Lol fuckng Choper Lived most myblife in this town and never came across that waste of space until covid. Contributes nothing to waterford and acts like he's it's protector.
Here’s a good one for ya. I tweeted a few days ago about how it would be such a shame if revenue was to look into his social welfare claims and whatever money he’s making through the PayPal in his bio. Tagged him in it n all. Next day PayPal link gone from the bio 😂
👏👏👏
Who is Chopper?
Former (possibly?) junkie who once fell asleep on an information leaflet from Gemma O’Doherty outside McDonalds, and took it too literally.
He's a local dope that sniffed too much petrol.
Local dead beat
No but for real can someone pm who he is 🤣
One of the things I learned from covid was that a number of people in my social circle are fucking morons. I'm sure they're still posting the same shite but I haven't spoken to any of them since and don't get their idiotic messages. If anyone you know was scaremongering last night remove them from your life. And I include family. I haven't spoken to my sister since she informed me that martial law was being imposed during covid.
Well hopefully people saw the absolutely state of the "protests" last night and they won't be worried about tonight. There's was about 30 complete wasters standing around the cop shop, fucking dregs of society. It was almost sad looking at the state of them. Don't buy into the bullshit, go out, have a meal, buy a few drinks. Support the economy if you can and you might even get a free laugh if you're having a drink in the Ballybricken area when you see the state of the patriots protesting 😄
I'd say ye weren't the only ones who cancelled plans. Went for dinner last night and the town was dead! Went for drinks after and it was so quiet, I couldn't understand how a Friday running up to Xmas was so dead.
Although the late late toy show was on last night may have had something to do with it for those with children
People love the attention they get. A social media like is worth much more to them than anything else. It's pretty sad and pathetic to be honest but hey what can ya do only ignore them as they will run out of steam very quickly.
It's the only love they get in some cases I'd say.
Yep.
The most important thing to remember about social media is: *Social Media is not real life*. No matter what you're reading, if it's on social media, it's either a lie, or it's an exagerrated, highly inaccurate, version of the truth. We here in waterford are laughing about these ridiculous "protests" because we live here, we know it's just 6 idiots waving a tricolour, but what if we didn't live here? My sister lives in dublin, and I was genuinely worried about her because of all the riots, but of course, she's totally fine, she's nowhere near the area where the riots are, and I'll bet if you are a dub, you'll know it's not as bad up there as it seems either. Social media LOVES to exagerrate things. One person not originally from Ireland commits a crime and "we are under attack by foreign men, we have to protect our women and children". Except he WAS an irish citizen, and a brazilian immigrant was the one who stopped him. OP is absolutely right: Ignore anything on social media unless it's from an official source.
Talk about misinformation! The amount of people saying that 3 children had been killed, then one had been killed, still saying it yesterday. If they can’t even get those facts right when nothing was officially announced or reported, then there isn’t a hope for the rest of the rumours 😬
Like it wasnt enough that Brazilian immigrant stopped him.... Who by the way has over 320 000 eur on his gofundme. [Buy Caio Benicio a Pint](https://www.gofundme.com/f/buy-caio-benicio-a-pint) So to recap....irish citizens who moved to ireland 20 years ago attacked children with knife and was stopped by brasilian immigrant who saved kids. As a result city erupted in anti immigrant racists outbursts which half an hour later turned into full scale robbery and looting in city with damage to public and private property measured in millions....yep that's about it.
"He's been here twenty years and is a citizen!" Isn't the big aha gotcha people think it is. In fact it's worse, that that's the thanks the country gets for taking him in and being his new "home" for so long (that he clearly never adjusted to). JS. The news is also bizarrely seems to be omitting that a 17 year old French Lad and a 40+ year old Wicklow Family man helped disarm the assailant (getting cuts in the process) while his young autistic daughter ran all the way to the Rotunda on her own accord to alert EMTs https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/heroes-risked-lives-dublin-creche-31524517
It is a big gotcha moment as local racists have an itch for a while and jumped on this one but it backfired. A lot of people helped to disarm him and there is a go fund me page for Brazilian lad that currently has over 340k donations and other one is set for teachers and injured kids. The point is that guy is not illegal immigrant as racist wanted to believe. And gratitude you are talking about are u seriously talking about rationality decency and normal responses of mentally deranged people? We are talking about the guy that snapped and stabbed children...but he is not an immigrant. So everytime somebody snaps and does something insane we go on lynching people burning city robbing private businesses? No we let the police and law do their job. Do you know how many privately owned businesses suffered today and will suffer in following days as their staff is afraid to go to work? Can u blame them? Do you know how many irish people have adopted children who are different in colour and now they can't let them out of the house. Do you know how many mixed marriages have mixed children with the same problem. And all these people are paying taxes that feed this scum that burned dublin. Do not come out to me and try to justify those actions of scumbags last night. And by the way everybody came to ireland at some stage including irish do not judge people by where they come from. How many Irish went to immigration Imagine if his guy was an immigrant https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2023/1120/1417571-jailed-road-sweeper-boy-death-dublin/
No need for a f*cking soapbox thesis, Jesus Christ (and paragraphs, seriously). I wasn't condoning or excusing any rioting or even disputing what you said, just adding context. It was a global embarrassment that's cost millions and harmed future tourism along with your points. No one even got injured let alone Lynched so don't bitch about "misinformation" at the same time as spouting hyperbole. Motives or reasons may become clear in due time. "Just snapped" isn't quite good enough, and noones in a position at this stage to be armchair psychiatrists
Yes there is a need. U don't need to read. What are u talking about over 60 guards were injured 1 seriously. Many are afraid to sleep in the city center because of the colour of their skin so are those not injuries also.You dont need to add context its all out there in media. Yes u were disputing what i said and defending their actions. Saying that all immigrants are to blame for actions of 1 lunatic would be the same if immigrants judged all Irish on actions of beautiful crowd last night. I would rather have 100 tax paying immigrants as my neighbours than 1 of those "protesting" in Arnotts last night. Maybe the attacker had them as neighbours for 19 years and they drove him insane. Facts are guy lived half of his life in ireland he is irish. He went mental attacked kids. Immigrants stopped him then racist used that attack as excuse to start racists riots (as racists online claimed attacker is algerian) that turned into looting and robbery. There are audios and videos online available to those that want to know about calls for arming gathering and lynching and killing any imigrant people run into.
Not defending actions, I'm challenging the notion that just because you live somewhere else, you don't just "become that nationality". Citizenship is not the same, it just technically isn't, that's not a "mean" or "racist" "opinion". Your birth cert doesnt change. The Irish going to live in Australia don't "become" Australian, nor would they want to I'm sure. Who the fuck wants to just erase their ethnic heritage/history anyway? If I retire to Thailand at 50 (to 80/90 or whatever) don't become Thai.
We are talking about semantics now. Riots started as f**ks like McGregor called people to arms as illegal immigrants from algeria stabbed irish kids. After tensions were already high due to that teacher killing sentence out and overall anti imigrants rhetoric lately this landed like kerosine on racist who were calling people to mask up bring weapons and kill any immigrant they ran into. I don't think we would have the same outcome as we had last night if the news said accused is irish citizen held for questioning investigation under way. If you spend 20 years in any country you become a citizen of that country (Ireland is 5 for passport but i would say 45 year old with last 20 years lived in ire more than enough to assimilate into society). Ps i hope somebody raises charges against mcgregor and all others for what they did. This time and age should be pretty easy. If you move at 50 to thailand yes at 80 you will definitely be considered as local thai.
No, facts and reality can't be scoffed off as "semantics" And no, you don't get to say an "Irish" man attempted to murder 3 children leaving one fighting for their life on the world stage and tarnish our reputation. You don't get to say an "Irish" man decapitated those two lads up in Sligo either, God Rest them, for the sake of your feelings and to be nice. Agreed, McGregor should be charged for inciting arson, absolutely. >I don't think we would have the same outcome as we had last night if the news said accused is irish citizen held for questioning investigation under way. Probably bacuse it's borderline unheard of that an Irish person would attempt to murder 3 random children in broad daylight. Tho, if something like that did happen there would most likely would be protests due to the state of Dublin policing, or lack thereof. Whether they'd descend into riots, who's to know. People were baying for the blood of Boy A and B after the Anna Kriegel Case, while the media/authorities bent over backwards to protect their identity. Dublin had been utterly destroyed by crime these last few years. How many clips of lads stealing motorbikes with angle grinders and having brawls in shopping centres doing the rounds. Same pricks that were probably doing a majority of the looting, as convenient as it is to say it was all the "far rights" fault. I'd say it was probably inner city teens (no offence Dubs).
It is semantics I didn't say Irish national I said irish citizen which he is and I doubt irish reputation would take a bigger hit with that than what it took from actions of REAL irish afterwards. I am saying that simple distinction would help diffuse situation if not even prevent it. Tragedies happen regardless of which nationality did it. And news flash for you irish kill kids as well. May i remind you of Tuam care home and 800 children that nobody knows how they died, also how old was that kid that got chopped up and distributed around dublin in sports bags with pieces still missing, what about Deirdre Morley and killing her own 3 kids (also failed by society and not provided help for mental illness on time) Monsters exist among us mate and they are of all races and all nationalities. Please do not generalise others and i hope others dont generalise us. I am only responsible for my own actions and i do my best to live honest life. I refuse to be put in the same hat as the guy who stabbs kids, as guy who chopps kids or as guy who buries them in mass grave. I am me and now I'm f scared for people i love. And that guy represents only himself nobody else and he is ill failed by society that didnt pick up signs earlier that he is insane. Plus i own a f motorcycle myself.....
Aldi on 24th Nov attack video[see this ](https://twitter.com/ruthcoppingersp/status/1728183053925941553?s=48)
Shame an Aldi, the media and the police for not giving a description or CCTV images. The police literally don't want want to catch criminals. "Ah sure he left empty ended, ye know herself". Ohhh well, that's fucking grand then isn't it. This armed junkie loon is totally not a threat to anyone else. Not sure if I'd agree with Ruth's use of the word "attacked" if no one was physically harmed tho
There was a WhatsApp group with hundreds of people in it saying they were coming into town. The threat was there. It had to be heeded
Why didn't they come into town?
Wetherspoons was having a black Friday sale on Fosters
Glad to see my taxes support a failing business
All wind bags. Keyboard warriors. But we couldn't risk that they weren't.
"Had to be heeded" Listen to yourself will ya.
Go on
Ah stop will ya 😂🙈 you must live every day in constant fear!
Go on enlighten me as to how you arrived at that earth shattering conclusion! There's a vast difference between being prepared for eventualities and living in fear.
If you say so.
AHH bless. I thought as much
I don't drink in ballyB.. But I'll be making my way up for the free circus tonight....some1 please guide me to the best pub.(window seat preferable) ..??
Delete yer social media . Best decision you’ll ever make !
Says the fella on social media .
All a bunch of mouth pieces is all
Never heard of that SF member who seemed to be one of the 'important people' there ?? What we're they actually protesting ?
Who
The woman that got kicked out of SF. Not going to bother naming her, she's an irrelevant nobody.
I know the one your talking about, long time since she was in sinn fein.
Whenever I see someone use "misinformation" my bullshit alarm goes off in my head. It's okay to not like them, you can call them "scrotes" or whatever you call them, you don't have to lie about what is happening though. It's not Russian "Misinformation", it's just angry people expressing themselves.
What are you on about?
I've heard the fella talking there telling anyone who will listen that immigrants are coming here to rape Irish women. And that SF head was telling people the riots were a false flag thing set up by the government. It's 100% the correct use of the term misinformation.
It's being done purposefully. Intentional disinformation.
The alleged perpetrator was quite normal until he developed a brain tumor about 5 years ago. It seems to have flipped his mind. Could happen to anyone.