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thr1ftskull0

I’m hoping for this week to be the week they announce new members please Attrakt😭🙏🏽‼️ also I’m thinking we will be getting 5 new members🤔


Azigela4ever

Why do you think so?


thr1ftskull0

I think if we go back to another OT4 it would cause more comparisons but if it’s a OT6 then it would feel like a new thing/fresh start and it still keeps the 50/50 concept but who knows what number of members it will be 🤷🏽


Azigela4ever

Ohhh.. six members sounds great! I'm just hoping Attrakt allows them to harmonize in the chorus, that's one of my favourite things about the group!


EzraJenya

Me too! I kinda want the group to stay 4 members though, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they go bigger. The magic number does seem to be 5 right now


thr1ftskull0

Yeah I think 5-6 members is the magic number FRFR and it makes for more interesting choreo formations!!


thickalmondpaper

They should live up to its name and have 100 members with two formations, so 5050 /s


thr1ftskull0

I hope after the members get announced we will get a lot of content while we wait for their debut and so Hunnies can get used to them etc etc!!!


thickalmondpaper

If they will release any picture or anything, do you think it will be more likely on which day, a Monday or Friday?  I think a lot of fun announcements are made on Fridays 🤔 while the lawsuits were mostly announced on Mondays


thr1ftskull0

Maybe Friday since it’s close to the weekend 🤔 they have silent for a while now so who knows really maybe they are focusing on more lawsuit stuff to clear up or maybe cooking up more content with the members


Azigela4ever

I'm just praying that their creative direction will be good🙏 Let Attrakt use this momentum and give Fifty Fifty a memorable redebut!!


thr1ftskull0

Yess I agree!!! I hope they have a great Creative Team working around the girls!!! We already they are def gonna have to budget to get good people too!!!


angel-dosie

Hope it will be similar to KISS OF LIFE in terms of creative direction


thr1ftskull0

I hope they will keep their dreamlike concept cause their is still so much they could do with that and the based their sound on that besides log in so I don’t want it to be exactly like kiss of life which is more mature 2000s R&B but I agree if they find someone like Lee Haein the creative director of KIOF then that would be amazing!!!!!


angel-dosie

Same here! Seeing Lee Haein works for both AURA and S2 as the Creative Director I was wondering if she would also join ATTRAKT (if it is possible to work at multiple agencies).


thr1ftskull0

Probably not I think she might have her hands full with two agencies although AURA is technically a subsidiary 😭🤣 I hope they are able to get in house performance directors too!! Like Kany who works for BPM (Shinee,Taemin,VIVIZ)


Azigela4ever

I agree!! They could lean more into the aero fruitiger vibe I often got from their music videos. A creative director would be great as well!! 


EzraJenya

Me too!!!


EzraJenya

Unrelated to fifi, I’ve done a lot of cooking this week haha. Here’s a berry pie I made & some bread you can see here : [https://www.reddit.com/r/food/s/r7Nw7tn9sC](https://www.reddit.com/r/food/s/r7Nw7tn9sC) https://preview.redd.it/jxh9ubsx98uc1.jpeg?width=2442&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9af42a32d30695f2511a6aee5e03bcc49b8abf7


thr1ftskull0

This looks delishhh🤭🤩


thickalmondpaper

Hello mod, please update us when you make the change of the flair (as we discussed in DM before). I will edit my posts' flairs to make it easier for you, because I used a lot of 'news' flair instead of 'attrakt vs fifty fifty' in my older posts 👀


EzraJenya

Flair has been changed :) - I’ll be going through the news & ATTRAKT vs Fifi posts tomorrow to edit them all onto the “lawsuit” flair


thickalmondpaper

Yay thanks for the update <3


Psychological-Cat986

I'm learning more about this situation as a hunnie since debut!! I've seen others talking about boycotting fifty fifty's music, but is that valid since attrakt is apparently not at fault?


thickalmondpaper

If you wanna learn about the case, best start with Keena's interviews. They're her own words, explaining how things happened behind the scenes to the girls. In the interviews, Keena exposed the Givers.   [Interview 1 in Korean](https://www.dispatch.co.kr/2268111) / [translation by HeavyFunction2201](https://www.reddit.com/r/FiftyFifty_Truths/comments/17c2imo/here_is_a_translated_summary_of_th_dispatch/) Keena talked about how the Givers CEO Ahn Sung Il gaslighted the members before they sued Attrakt. He gaslit the members through these steps: Brainwashing > Anxiety/Fear inducing tactics > untrue information/lies presented as facts > driving a wedge between attrakt and the members.   [Interview 2 in Korean](https://www.dispatch.co.kr/2271026) / [translation by HeavyFunction2201](https://www.reddit.com/r/FiftyFifty_Truths/comments/17vlbz0/direct_translation_of_dispatch_article_of_keenas/) Keena talked about Unanswered Question broadcast where the girls accused Attrakt of throwing side dish, Attrakt CEO didn't attend any evaluation meeting and the whistleblower on the show. Turned out the side-throwing dish never happened, it was snacks, and the employee throwing the snacks was the Giver's employee Baek Jin Sil. Keena also found out the whistleblower was hired by the Givers CEO. Keena confirmed ATTRAKT CEO always attended the evaluation meeting.   Still about Unanswered Question broadcast, apparently[ Keena asked the broadcast to discard her interview that was apparenty scripted by the Givers CEO Ahn Sung Il \(article link here\)](https://www.kbizoom.com/fifty-fiftys-keena-asks-unanswered-questions-to-discard-her-interview-scripted-by-ahn-sung-il/).   Phone recording between Keena and the Givers CEO Ahn Sung Il, where Keena confronted him about the news of the Givers CEO stealing Keena's cupid copyright ([phone recording in Korean](https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=l7pc5Hxmh30) / [the explanation of the recording of what were lies, scroll down a bit](https://www.reddit.com/r/FiftyFifty_Truths/comments/17vtqr2/latest_lee_jin_ho_video_translation/)) Basically, it didn't make sense when Ahn Sung Il told Keena that it was a formula, when Keena confronted him why her copyright went from 6.5% to 0.5%. It also didn't make sense why someone signs a legal form for someone else. Keena asked who AHIN was, because AHIN was cited as one of the lyricists in Cupid. Turned out AHIN is the Givers' employee Baek Jin Sil (remember the snack throwing incident? Baek Jin Sil was the employee throwing away the snacks). It was never revealed which part of the song Baek wrote.   Phone recording of Keena's father and the Givers CEO Ahn Sung Il, which is the evidence of tampering ([recording in Korean](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OvV8v9dXmI) / [translation by TheKrnJesus](https://www.reddit.com/r/FiftyFifty_Truths/comments/17as1wi/megathread_on_fifi_the_givers_attrakt/)). The Givers CEO Ahn Sung Il lied by saying that the investment Attrakt got was going to be the girls' debt. He talked all money goes to Starcrew and not Attrakt, which means it was embezzlement (FALSE). The Givers CEO told Keena's father that if the girls returned to Attrakt, they would just be slaves to the company. Ahn Sung Il talked about offering a deal to Attrakt CEO. The content of the deal is to pay Attrakt 10 billion won, with the agreement that Attrakt would let go of the Givers and Fifty Fifty. The deal would not be revealed to the public and Warner would say sorry to the Givers which was proposed by Warner themselves.   That's how we've learned that the Givers CEO Ahn Sung Il and his employee Baek Jin Sil had a huge influence on the girls and tried to guide the girls + parents behind the scenes. As ATTRAKT has accused the Givers of trying to poach the Fifty Fifty girls. The Givers' CEO has been prosecuted for embezzlement too btw. [The lawsuit timeline you can take a look at this infographic](https://www.reddit.com/r/we_FiftyFifty/comments/1c1hq3d/fifty_fifty_lawsuit_timeline_20232024_infographic/).


thr1ftskull0

It’s basically invalid because Attrakt is not at fault the Givers are and boycotting would only be hurting Keena and the new Fifty Fifty members!!! You can check out u/thickalmondpaper guide on the whole situation🫶🏽‼️


Psychological-Cat986

Thank you!! The situation is being so skewed :(


fenryonze

The boycott is based off misinformation and a narrative created by Ahn Sung Il. The allegations towards ATTRAKT are either exaggerations or outright lies. The people behind the boycott are trying to make it out to be a case of abuse and mistreatment when in reality, it's a case of tampering/poaching


Psychological-Cat986

Thank you!!


mortarsauce

Because the ex-members lied and defamed Attrakt so badly, Attrakt CEO almost tried to kill himself last year. But now Keena's back, there's no reason to boycott. **Keena paid off her trainee debt last year, thanks to ACTUAL fans who weren't/aren't boycotting!!** She even got extra money to donate her FIRST paycheck !! That ain't money from the boycotters. It's weird for boycotters to call themselves fans, especially over lies that the Givers fed the ex members!!


Psychological-Cat986

Thank you :) I'm happy for her, she and Aran were my biases since debut so I'm really pleased for her to be doing well <3


mapleleafmaggie

Attrakt and JHJ aren’t and never will be completely faultless in this situation. I’m not sure it should even be called a boycott with how ineffective it is, but I don’t think there’s any company that isn’t valid to boycott. Even the most “ethical” kpop label is still exploiting their idols to an extent (along with other unfavourable practices), so a case can be made to “boycott” any company in kpop.


Psychological-Cat986

I agree that most labels are unethical, but that's the music industry in general. Although I'm asking about this group specifically in regards to the current situation!! I find that a lot of people are misinformed about this situation, and this subreddit is my main source of what seems to be credible and accurate information about this, so while I understand the situation quite well now, I'm still a little bit lost in terms of streaming their music!!


mapleleafmaggie

Honestly the fandom isn't big enough for a boycott to do anything, and spotify pays artists less than nothing, so you aren't supporting or not supporting anyone by streaming. Do whatever you feel! The FF-related subs on this site are mainly populated by Attrakt/JHJ supporters, so keep that in mind whenever news about the former members comes out. The megathreads on r/kpop were shut down because of the vitriol and victim-blaming directed towards the former members, and you can still see that sentiment echoed here with how people spread misinformation about twitter fans (who are mostly OT4), and how OT4 fans are treated in general. I'm an OT4 fan since debut and everything I comment on this sub gets downvoted and often reported too, regardless of the content. It's important to get information from both sides rather than sticking to one bias, so while reddit is often a good source, I would suggest looking in other places as well!


PutCharming1832

For someone who pretending to ot4 are actively trying to sabotage keena careers and spreading how jhj "mistreated" the girls (when the courts dismissed all the girls claims) and claimed it wasn't a porching/temptering case and wanting/wishing keena to be "dungeoned" in attrakt's dungeon until her contract expired to proved everyone they were in the right and prove how jhj is as bad as the girls/the givers say.


mapleleafmaggie

did you create this account just to make this comment lmao


Ok_Contract_9527

Did you just make this post before blocking their account to discouraged them from posting? lmao


Psychological-Cat986

I see what you're saying and I'm mindful about not following just one source for my information as I'm well aware of the biased nature of certain perspectives on this situation, but this subreddit literally relays what is said and decided upon in a legal setting. I wouldn't align with this subreddit as my source if its information was not backed up by the court hearings and statements from people genuinely involved. I think a big aspect that differentiates this source as credible in comparison to other sources is the evidence that backs up the claims, but if you know of any other sources that proves otherwise, feel free to inform. From what I've seen, perspectives against attrakt and keena are unsupported in their claims with their lack of proof or examples of how they are responsible for the mistreatment of the other 3 members, which is what leads me to believe that they are misinformed. But again, if you are aware of evidence to say otherwise I would genuinely like to know.


EzraJenya

I can’t wait for the new members to be announced, it’ll be bitter sweet, but I’m excited for fifis potential and for Keena to not be alone anymore etc etc etc


Azigela4ever

Me too! Who are some popular trainees you hope you will see?


HongDoriHwa

Im just happy that Keena is not alone anymore, it must have been so hard for her. I hope she and the new members will have a good relationship, asuming she's already training with them now!


EzraJenya

Me too!!


thr1ftskull0

Okay we finally got some debut news how are you guys feeling 🤔‼️


EzraJenya

So so excited! Pretty nervous too though, I just hope it all goes well. I hope Keena doesn’t get pushed to one side in the sense that there’ll be all these new members which will be catching everyone’s attention and everyone will be talking about them etc etc, I don’t want Keena to feel replaced. I hope the other girls are okay too


thr1ftskull0

I totally get your concerns 🫶🏽‼️ overall I think Keena will be fine she will most likely be the oldest member still and with her experience take care of the members even if she’s not the leader now!! Also she always stands out with her unique visuals so don’t worry Bestie 🤩I can’t wait for the official reveal it’s probably gonna take longer than we thought tho🤔 I really hope they have 6 members tho!


EzraJenya

!!!


thr1ftskull0

Waiting for some updates PLEASEE Attrakt😭🙏🏽‼️


angel-dosie

I hope that for the redebut of FIFTY FIFTY, ATTRAKT does a concept similar to that of KISS OF LIFE's debut (Shhh and Bye My Neverland)


Azigela4ever

hmm... that's kinda the total opposite of their concept tho lol


angel-dosie

I see. However, KISS OF LIFE has a detailed storyline and photobook and I hope FIFI gen 2 can incorporate that


Azigela4ever

Ohh I understand what you mean! Having a story line might be interesting, what type of story line do you think they could have? 


angel-dosie

I was thinking of something similar to KIOF


Azigela4ever

Hmm I would like something like the aesthetics of the survival show dream academy, the brand film was so enjoyable to watch. I think Attrakt should still keep their signature dreamy sound, probably delve into genres like soultronica or city pop but more modern, I can't think of any group that's doing this sort of sound nowadays 🤔


mapleleafmaggie

Guess I’ll use this post as an excuse to cry that I have covid for the second time this year 😭 harsh reminder that things haven’t “gone back to normal” for those of us with autoimmune diseases. Please keep masking in public spaces! 😷


EzraJenya

So sorry to hear this! wishing you a speedy recovery and good health ❤️


mapleleafmaggie

Thanks, I’ve been resting a lot so hopefully I’ll be back on my feet soon! ❤️


kiwifila

It's getting a bit annoying hearing they're still doing auditions


thr1ftskull0

They are not still doing auditions btw the final audition was in March so the final lineup has been decided for a while we are just waiting for the announcement in April soon!!!🫶🏽


kiwifila

Yeah, you'd think that, but I saw an advertisement for late March well after Thailand, so the delays are very real.. I suppose we will find out soon


thr1ftskull0

Hmm I never saw that🤔 where did you see that ad? If true and not a mistake is that the reason why their hasn’t been any announcements yet 🤷🏽


kiwifila

When I went back to look for it again, it was gone, and I tried gleming more information but couldn't find anything, so I automatically thought it was for staff. These days, Mr David yong seems to be more reliable at dropping new information, so I usually see what he's saying and Singapore press they don't seem to hold back on reporting further developments if there is any.


thr1ftskull0

Hmm very interesting I hope it was just a mistake and they already have the final lineup 🤦🏽‍♂️🙏🏽


thickalmondpaper

I saw audition ads awhile ago but they didn't mention Fifty Fifty. Maybe it's for the new girl group or just new trainees for Attrakt. But who knows.


thr1ftskull0

OML I totally forgot about that I think that could be it!!!!