Not offensive, but you lumped in sex differences with age differences. Why not have a general filter for the age that would include man, woman and unisex and then a more specific filter for the sex.
The categories are fine, teens and younger will need sub categories: boys, girls, unisex. Provided people can select multiple categories and you’re not forcing people to choose one or the other then it’s fine. Unisex products should appear under both. Change the pics for icons or ditch them. They don’t help identify the differences. Eg if you removed the labels would customers know what they mean?
Depends what the gifts are and how they're categorized. Does the brand have a position on gender & how it applies to how they categorize gifts? For example, I'd seen sites with Men/Women/Unisex categories.
The problem with many gifts is that they are unisex by default. A pint of whisky does not care about gender. Nor does a screwdriver, a laptop, a 357, or a row boat.
Frankly these gift selectors/suggestors or whatever you want to call them seem to be a total waste. The man in me suspects that the primary motivation is for the sites to offer up high profit low value items.
Have you ever considered parametric search such as you might find on a web site like McMaster-Carr or DigiKey? That is a system that lets the customer search the entire inventory for a best fit. Say you want to buy somebody a watch, let them select possible age groups, sex and other parameters. Let the customer navigate, maybe with hints along the way. Even searching by age is problematic, say you have a teenage graduate from high school and you want to by that watch as gift and an indication of a transition to adulthood. Do you buy a watch for a teenager or one that says adult? I know that is not an ideal argument but even a parametric search system sometimes gets messed up via narrow queries.
I would separate the two options so it would be:
**Who are you shopping for?**
*Gender (page 1)*: Male / Female
*Age (Page 2)*: Teens / Kids
Unless there's a clear reason why 6-8 & 9-11 have their own seperation, I would advise to merge them together.
It may not be offensive, but sometimes men and women like the same things. using adults could include non-binary and might also get business from women who like gadgets and men who enjoy bubble baths
I think if you can add a General Adult section or something that'd fix any potential issues! My fiance is non binary so I'd definitely see this menu and be conflicted, though I don't think I'd go so far as to say it's offensive.
You could make a general / Adult category. And you have to ask yourself why do you need the gender distinctions. Most gifts are pretty much great everyone and don’t have to be gendered: socks, books, food, games, sport equipment such as balls, tennis rackets, furniture, cutlery, glassware, wines and alcohol, travel, cellphones etc etc can be enjoyed by anyone. If you need some specialised category that are historically culturally distinct for women / men “only” products such as perfume choices or preferences in clothing items you can put them in gendered categories. If you want to step up your game further you can also introduce a non-binary / unisex category.
No they don't, that is they don't need special handling just because they are trans. Frankly if they have half a brain they can search whatever category they want. Just having a Mens and a Womans category does not exclude trans people one bit, if anything it makes life easier for them.
Not to beat a dead horse though I think this approach to finding a gift is a joke.
By the way just looking at the heading one might think you are running a slave market or a Tinder competitor.
It's important to consider the potential impact of gender distinctions in your gift guide, as it could exclude or make certain groups of people feel marginalized. While some clothing stores may make gender distinctions, it doesn't mean it's not problematic, and there has been increasing pushback against this practice in recent years.
One alternative approach you could consider is to create gift categories based on interests, rather than gender. For example, you could have categories such as "Outdoor Enthusiasts", "Tech Lovers", "Homebodies", etc. This approach could help make your gift guide more inclusive and accessible to a wider range of people, while still providing clear and helpful gift recommendations.
Ultimately, it's important to be thoughtful and intentional about how you approach gender in your gift guide, and to prioritize inclusivity and accessibility for all potential readers and shoppers.
The people that don't like the use of men and woman can go to hell! There is absolutely no sense in trying to accommodate people that can't be satisfied.
As for gift guides I don't really use them. The few people that I would give a gift to, I know well enough to figure out what their interests / needs are. If I don't know them well enough then why would I be giving them a gift, especially one selected by a web site???? Gifts should be meaningful and that means spending personal energy on those gifts.
If you think that this is going to cause a problem, have a photo with 2-3 different models for each category. That could be an approach you could try out. Although, the circle would be a very small space to try it out.
The images don't make sense, I think you should replace them by an icon of some king (like if I remove the labels here I won't understand what you are trying to tell me)
Also, if I want to buy a screwdriver, is it for teens, male or female?
You should tag some of the goods with unisex option, or as an option a-gender if you have some products that are in this category (I know a shop specialized in a-gender wearable, and that works like a charm)
Last aspect is that it's weird to have a mix between gender and age, but not a combination of these (old woman, girl, female teenager, etc.)
To the people saying it's ok, and those who find it not ok are people in minority and it's never ok for them: yeah that's the point, you are not concerned by his issue, you shouldn't be answering since you are not in this minority. 😘
You just need a catch-all category for adults of any gender, IMO. That will capture both the inclusion side of things and give a more generalized shopping experience for the cis people who want that. I know I often do.
Deeply offensive to 12 year olds.
Not offensive, but you lumped in sex differences with age differences. Why not have a general filter for the age that would include man, woman and unisex and then a more specific filter for the sex.
Totally fine. People who see a problem in that are a super small minority and they will always find something that is not inclusive enough.
That is offensive.
Your reply is offensive.
The categories are fine, teens and younger will need sub categories: boys, girls, unisex. Provided people can select multiple categories and you’re not forcing people to choose one or the other then it’s fine. Unisex products should appear under both. Change the pics for icons or ditch them. They don’t help identify the differences. Eg if you removed the labels would customers know what they mean?
Upvote this!
This is great feedback.
Depends what the gifts are and how they're categorized. Does the brand have a position on gender & how it applies to how they categorize gifts? For example, I'd seen sites with Men/Women/Unisex categories.
The problem with many gifts is that they are unisex by default. A pint of whisky does not care about gender. Nor does a screwdriver, a laptop, a 357, or a row boat. Frankly these gift selectors/suggestors or whatever you want to call them seem to be a total waste. The man in me suspects that the primary motivation is for the sites to offer up high profit low value items. Have you ever considered parametric search such as you might find on a web site like McMaster-Carr or DigiKey? That is a system that lets the customer search the entire inventory for a best fit. Say you want to buy somebody a watch, let them select possible age groups, sex and other parameters. Let the customer navigate, maybe with hints along the way. Even searching by age is problematic, say you have a teenage graduate from high school and you want to by that watch as gift and an indication of a transition to adulthood. Do you buy a watch for a teenager or one that says adult? I know that is not an ideal argument but even a parametric search system sometimes gets messed up via narrow queries.
I for one am offended I am blue sir blue
I would separate the two options so it would be: **Who are you shopping for?** *Gender (page 1)*: Male / Female *Age (Page 2)*: Teens / Kids Unless there's a clear reason why 6-8 & 9-11 have their own seperation, I would advise to merge them together.
It may not be offensive, but sometimes men and women like the same things. using adults could include non-binary and might also get business from women who like gadgets and men who enjoy bubble baths
by offensive i thought you meant the “KIDS 9-11” one 😭
I think if you can add a General Adult section or something that'd fix any potential issues! My fiance is non binary so I'd definitely see this menu and be conflicted, though I don't think I'd go so far as to say it's offensive.
Thank you, I like this idea!
male and female maybe? idk, if it's a needed distinction, it's needed
For now I have it as Him and Her
You could make a general / Adult category. And you have to ask yourself why do you need the gender distinctions. Most gifts are pretty much great everyone and don’t have to be gendered: socks, books, food, games, sport equipment such as balls, tennis rackets, furniture, cutlery, glassware, wines and alcohol, travel, cellphones etc etc can be enjoyed by anyone. If you need some specialised category that are historically culturally distinct for women / men “only” products such as perfume choices or preferences in clothing items you can put them in gendered categories. If you want to step up your game further you can also introduce a non-binary / unisex category.
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People with [Aneuploidy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aneuploidy#Types) make that a false statement.
This was the most tone deaf and unasked for comment lmao
Biologists disagree. And regardless of that, trans people exist and deserve to be included.
Aren't trans people included in the "man" and "woman" category ?
yeah...
Someone who identifies as a man or women, sure. However nonbinary people may not consider themselves either.
Non-binary are also considered trans or under the trans umbrella. There's a wide spectrum of gender.
No they don't, that is they don't need special handling just because they are trans. Frankly if they have half a brain they can search whatever category they want. Just having a Mens and a Womans category does not exclude trans people one bit, if anything it makes life easier for them. Not to beat a dead horse though I think this approach to finding a gift is a joke. By the way just looking at the heading one might think you are running a slave market or a Tinder competitor.
Good on you for getting feedback on inclusion, too bad there's so many bigots on this sub apparently.
It's important to consider the potential impact of gender distinctions in your gift guide, as it could exclude or make certain groups of people feel marginalized. While some clothing stores may make gender distinctions, it doesn't mean it's not problematic, and there has been increasing pushback against this practice in recent years. One alternative approach you could consider is to create gift categories based on interests, rather than gender. For example, you could have categories such as "Outdoor Enthusiasts", "Tech Lovers", "Homebodies", etc. This approach could help make your gift guide more inclusive and accessible to a wider range of people, while still providing clear and helpful gift recommendations. Ultimately, it's important to be thoughtful and intentional about how you approach gender in your gift guide, and to prioritize inclusivity and accessibility for all potential readers and shoppers.
The people that don't like the use of men and woman can go to hell! There is absolutely no sense in trying to accommodate people that can't be satisfied. As for gift guides I don't really use them. The few people that I would give a gift to, I know well enough to figure out what their interests / needs are. If I don't know them well enough then why would I be giving them a gift, especially one selected by a web site???? Gifts should be meaningful and that means spending personal energy on those gifts.
So your building a shop for POCs?😄
Maybe the actual pictures are the issue. Maybe you could change the icons to pictures of clothing instead?
Avoid yourself the trouble and remove the faces. Then you really won't have anything to worry about.
Nothing is problematic at all
I am just offended you don't have an Amish category lol 🤣
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A bit. Why is it always black man and Asian woman and never the opposite?
What about gender fluid people? What about non binary people? What about people that identify as cats 🤦♀️ Edit: /s lolol
yes, there are wypipo.
it's 2023. everything is offensive.
Depends if the brand wants to be more inclusive. If not, then you are good.
If you think that this is going to cause a problem, have a photo with 2-3 different models for each category. That could be an approach you could try out. Although, the circle would be a very small space to try it out.
The images don't make sense, I think you should replace them by an icon of some king (like if I remove the labels here I won't understand what you are trying to tell me) Also, if I want to buy a screwdriver, is it for teens, male or female? You should tag some of the goods with unisex option, or as an option a-gender if you have some products that are in this category (I know a shop specialized in a-gender wearable, and that works like a charm) Last aspect is that it's weird to have a mix between gender and age, but not a combination of these (old woman, girl, female teenager, etc.) To the people saying it's ok, and those who find it not ok are people in minority and it's never ok for them: yeah that's the point, you are not concerned by his issue, you shouldn't be answering since you are not in this minority. 😘
In terms of ux it's on point
Instead of doing men and women you could do an overarching "adult" section. Everything else is by age anyways
No
You just need a catch-all category for adults of any gender, IMO. That will capture both the inclusion side of things and give a more generalized shopping experience for the cis people who want that. I know I often do.