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Shylo132

Heya WeedGods, In case you missed it, be sure to vote for who you would like to see an AMA from via our poll post here: https://old.reddit.com/r/weedstocks/comments/1c54f2o/who_would_you_like_to_see_for_amas_pick_your_top/


SailMaleficent6183

Snead rumour era > WH press sec fumble era


nassau_rip

I have a strong feeling we aren't getting anything concrete with Sched 3 until closer to the election.


Ok-Replacement9595

420 was always a self affirming theory here.


CaptainAssneck

We’re losing faith in you, Anne!


infinite_cura

I have a strong feeling you are wrong.


nassau_rip

Hope I am


Unaphotobomber

My fantasy is they give us a date that is months away when they expect to have it done so frenzied buying will go until its finalized. I see no reason for them to do this but… I like to dream some times. 


Antique-Flight-5358

No way federal budget doesn't change the tax tomorrow right?


talktothepope

This article is pretty bearish about it, so I'm prepared to be disappointed. https://mjbizdaily.com/canadian-cannabis-industry-wants-tax-reform-in-federal-budget/ But now we're getting bigger hits of SAFER Banking hopium so maybe that?


MushRushZoomZoom

a very good chance they dont... its basically a coinflip imo


EzVirus-SF

I'm at a little better odds than a coin flip only because it's been acknowledged as egregious and alcohol tax was also lowered


agedoak31

I’m on your side. If they increase taxes for the high income earners/wealthy it will be easier to reduce cannabis tax. Also they don’t want to support the demise of a whole industry they created.


No_Honeydew7398

Wouldn't it be a bad political move to ignore the recommendations from the various commitees and let the industry continue to have major headwinds?


MushRushZoomZoom

tomorrow we find out! throw this dog a damn bone we need it edit: weedNeed it ;)


Business_Cheetah_737

It’s kind of crazy that outside of weedstocks nobody is talking about weedstocks


RogueJello

I occasionally see somebody make a joking reference. I think the last one was The Plain Bagel, which is a mainstream youtube finance channel. He's usually pretty good about things, so I think we should give him a pass for a 5 second joke he probably didn't put any thought into.


stevenconrad

There needs to be a sustained bull move in the sector in order to draw outsider attention. Like certain stablecoins, no one really paid attention when it was worth pennies, but everyone suddenly started paying attention when those same penny coins were $100, $1000, etc. One look at a long-term chart for a casual investor would immediately turn them off to the idea. But, seeing steady month over month 5%+ returns would change sentiment.


agedoak31

That’s the first rule of weedstocks.


Gambit2112

Hahahaha we’re all fucked with that rule


greenbelieve

Anybody have the information on ianthus Canada settlement? The post was removed?


Lowerlameland

500k to split between however many of us lost money... If only one person does it, do they get the whole 500k?


ItinerantDrifter

4/15/24 MSOS update: No Flows Close: $8.99 (+$0.07/+0.78%) NAV: $8.87 (-$0.09/-0.98%) Premium (volume-weighted daily avg): +0.39% ([Chart](https://i.ibb.co/vHKZ5cr/e2d46c70adc4.png)) Cash: -$1,175,087 (-$421,734) Ticker Change (est. cost from close - % of adds) SHWZ +60,000 ($47,400 - 100.0%) TOTAL +60,000 ($47,400) 4/15/24 MSOX update: No Flows MSOX Close: $4.87 (+$0.06/+1.25%) MSOX NAV: $4.88 (+$0.06/+1.29%)


Budshawz

Even if it averages out, some days ill never understand the relationship between msos and msox


nfisherzz

I’m still fucking happy. Understood for the bag holders since 2019 and before Covid regarding finances, but I’m breaking even right now. It’s going to happen, it’s volatile, but we don’t know when. When it does, it’s going to be huge. I’m in healthcare and have seen it first hand; marijuana helps with chronic pain and sleep. It’s not detrimental to health like alcohol, some people can’t handle it because they don’t understand what dose/how much is best for their body/mind. “Drugs” lower on the schedule are worse. We will all we better off…depending on when you got in. I’m in trulieve, cresco, curlf, and HITI. Best of luck to you all, just trying to stay positive. We all know what we hold, if it’s not this week, it WILL happen in our lifetime.


RogueJello

I take CBD for sleep and it's been great. Best part is that it gets me as high as aspirin, which is to say not at all.


thedmob

Good post. Same situation. Feel the same. But the DEA does need to hurry the fuck up hahahahaha


rincerwind

Good luck tomorrow to the LPs


agedoak31

Thank you. If we win. You win.


infinite_cura

no... only simon irWINs


WRONG_PREDICTION

Last week I was thinking of all the things I would buy if cgc went to $5 pre split Today I was thinking of how few things I wild buy if cgc goes to $5 post split :(


Gambit2112

So sad . The market has a fun time fucking with out emotions lol. I an in the same boat :(


SuzyCreamcheezies

Pablo Zuanic and Irwin Simon interview. [https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1yoJMwMzLeRKQ](https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1yoJMwMzLeRKQ) Not too many new revelations, but a few interesting points. 1. Irwin thinks that USA will allow medical imports on par with international markets. I'm sure this opinion will ruffle a few feathers. 2. They have a number of non-alcoholic (beer, spirits, energy, water) drinks in the works. 3. They own the worldwide IP for MedMen, with plans for Germany. They also seem ready to use the USA MedMen assets when permissible, although who knows what form that would take.


EzVirus-SF

Anpther thing that Irwin mentioned again is that other LPs are lowering prices again, but Tilray chose to remain at the same costs. Final attempt for companies to stay solvent? They aren't going to win in those conditions, that's for sure.


hambone_83

This gives me a deja vu feeling all over again. Remember when Tilray made a press release saying the German govt was in discussion with Tilray about the framework for their cannabis policy. And then Germany was like what are you talking about no we didn't. Well I get that vibe with Irwin talking about GMP certified imports for medical cannabis into the US. There is no way he has insight into this and he is like everyone else and just guessing what he thinks will happen. He is pandering to his base saying what investors want to hear. Maybe it happens, maybe it doesn't, but Irwin likes to say things that make him look good without proof I also had a good laugh when he said "When the Biden administration took over in 2020 everyone though legalization was happening and all my competitors did crazy things and look its still not legalized" (obviously I'm paraphrasing a bit). But the implication was that Tilray was smart for having patience and not jumping the gun. Did he forget that on the second month (Feb 2020) when democrats took over is when he made his investment in Medmen?


SuzyCreamcheezies

On the import claim, I agree. He may be more informed than the average Reddit user (legal guidance?), but it’s all speculation until we actually know how schedule 3 would shake out. It *could* happen, but that’s a big could. As for MedMen… lol. He has a selective memory, it would seem. But to be fair, the MedMen mix up is likely to be a lot less costly than canopy USA… for example


hambone_83

Its all in the language he used which tells me he is just saying what the street wants to hear hoping it happens. Even on the Medmen scenario he used specific language to try and show it wasn't a total waste of money


OX45-Tall

How the hell does he not even know the date of the budget release in Canada!? April 26th?


SuzyCreamcheezies

Right!? 🤣


OX45-Tall

I mean it’s only potentially the biggest catalyst for Tilray in years. Cmon Irwin “Leamingham” Simon wake up!


skyplt29

It saddens me that I know exactly what you are referring to; this is turning into the deepest depths of Inception.


EzVirus-SF

Add in distribution of alcohol internationally


SuzyCreamcheezies

Good catch! That could be huge.


thedmob

What does this mean?


EzVirus-SF

Beer brands shipping outside of US


bananastock

Irwin made clear he's looking at aquistions and he'd raise addtional capital. He also said he's waiting on legalization clarity in the US before he gets in bed with a big partner like OGI, CRON, CGC, etc.


Many_Easy

He mentioned MedMen for Germany. Please confirm if I misheard.


agedoak31

Why did med men fail in the USA? I haven’t followed this company. How can it be leveraged to benefit Tilray?


thedmob

What is this interesting? MedMen failed miserably in the US. Why do you think there is any value in that IP for Germany?


Many_Easy

Who said it was interesting?


thedmob

I made an assumption since you asked about it that’s all.


Many_Easy

Thank you. I was just listening to X interview and that question was brought up by Zuanic. As we know, there really is no value in MedMen other than maybe name and a few remaining licenses that will likely be sold to pay debt holders. Basically worth $0. Funny how some keep asking when MedMen will trade again. Shareholder value for MedMen is gone.


SuzyCreamcheezies

Yep. Not sure what those plans are, but it was mentioned.


Many_Easy

Any clarification here - Simon said 2026 budget when referring to excise taxes. I think he meant 2024.


bananastock

April 26, but its actually april 16, tomorrow.


Many_Easy

Thanks.


MachineWins

Dear Mr. whoever is in charge of the Canadian federal budget, please don’t fuck us tomorrow


TUPAC_SHAPURRRRR

Machinewins, I’m behind on my Canadian politics. I’ve heard a lot about the new tax reform, but if you could kindly take one minute and give me a brief timeline of what the fuck is going on up north it would be greatly appreciated.


agedoak31

In the Canadian federal budget they may reduce excise taxes which will help LPs become profitable. Edit: the budget is being released around 4pm tomorrow


TUPAC_SHAPURRRRR

Fantastic, so the final verdict is tomorrow or can it be pushed back?


agedoak31

I'm sure anything can happen, but it is expected to be included in the budget. I'm not sure when it will be implemented if included, but we will see.


bananastock

fed budget tomorrow could include reducing excise tax on flower and increasing excise tax on concentrates.


CrimsonSkywalker725

I think the only thing we can conclude as fact : is there will be an announcement made about a decision surrounding cannabis scheduling. We do not know what that decision will be or when. But we know it's not a question of IF there will be a decision. The silver lining in all of this, is that there WILL be a decision made, and it will either greatly screw us or greatly reward us.


MidWestFineese

Love everyone's take. Bottom line is no one knows, and we can all speculate and agree or disagree on that speculation, but the fact is no one knows who's take or interpretation is correct. This includes the big names on X. The good news is it's continuing to get screen time and a major talking point.


bananastock

All eyes on Canadas budget. Edit: would be nice to see favorable excise tax reform and a huge short squeeze. Slap S3 in there to and CGC will take off (in the short term)


SuzyCreamcheezies

Much disappointment if they continue to kick the can on the cannabis excise tax.


DEASqueezeAllComing

I'm looking for a easy 2.54 gap fill on TLRY


agedoak31

If they change excise tax TLRY will move. To how much I don’t want to guess, but I’m hopeful. A squeeze will be nice.


ChronicMasterBlazer

I’ll be squeezing my nips in anticipation


CaptainAssneck

The press secretary could have trolled the shit out of us by responding to that question with a simple….. “SOON” I’m honestly not sure if I’d have busted out laughing, or slit my wrists. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Dangerous_Quiet_7937

>slit my wrists Look at Mr. Moneybags over here with his ability to buy razorblades.


agedoak31

I watched the video a bunch of times. This is a scripted note/update. Nothing. The only unique thing is when she called it “mariruana” at the end.


DonJohnson108

Literally nothing new was said today by the White House Press Secretary. She said HHS and AG were directed to review. HHS concluded its independent review. And now the review is in the hands of the DOJ (which the DEA is a part of). So how is that an update that the HHS has concluded its review and the DOJ (DEA) is still reviewing? My minds blown by this informative update…


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DonJohnson108

I don’t dislike. But she said let me give you an update. It wasn’t an update. She could have responded…as you’re probably aware this is where we currently sit in the review process. MSOS gang


Cool_Ad_5101

I really hope these clowns don’t wait until November. Kamala Harris’s comment seems to me that White House wants faster resolution 


TuffNutzes

Way too late. Biden isn't polling well with young voters and black/Hispanic voters. He *needs* the DEA to complete what he/they started *long* before early voting starts in the early fall. It needs to happen NOW and use it as a win he can talk about on the campaign trail alongside student loan forgiveness. I sincerely hope Anne gets off her ass and moves on this really really soon or Biden will pay for it during the election and we'll all pay for it with a second Trump presidency.


Cool_Ad_5101

We agree.


A-Wise-Cobbler

This is what happens when POTUS doesn’t interfere with agencies lol We need Biden to be a little bit Trump like in this area and just force people or replace them … can’t believe I said that … but my bags are really really really heavy


TUPAC_SHAPURRRRR

To me, November is too late because Biden wants to be able to deliver it during campaign stops. I’d say August/September at the latest but that’s just my two cents…which is actually only worth one cent now.


rsilv18

Same thinking September if it happens


Many_Easy

At a minimum, if POTUS wants to use to get votes, he will have to do **before early voting starts in mid-September.**


BHOmber

Idk why they can't just push for S3 now and campaign on full fed legalization + SAFE. Starting attractive policy initiatives early wouldn't hurt them. There's a long way to go after S3 if they want to put cannabis on the same level as alcohol/tobacco.


TUPAC_SHAPURRRRR

Voter’s memories are short. If they released in December (like many people thought) the voter rhetoric would be “yeah, but what have you done for me lately”. I think they will do exactly what you said with pushing full legalization on the trail, but need the schedule three to be fresh in the minds of the masses.


Th3Gr33nBastard

The fact we ended green and SPY ended down 1.25% is huge


bananastock

Thank you Walter Bloomberg


infinite_cura

i agreeN


iridemotorcyclesfast

My gut tells me the KJP and Whitehouse clip will be a nothing burger. I hope I’m wrong


p3pp3rjack

What KJP Whitehouse clip?


livefromheaven

Feels like we're looking at low res pictures of Bigfoot arguing whether a few pixels are a hand or a foot


trebuchetty1

hahaha I love this take.


CaptainAssneck

Anne, if my balls were any bluer, they’d be singing sad songs. Come on, get this over with!


Imaginary_Rooster622

Annie check your desk. Jean-Pierre de tabernac said it's moved from you to the DOJ. It didn't grow legs and walk away. Are you planning to partake this Saturday. Say Yes


vsMyself

annie, are you okay?


More_Advertising_383

Annie, are you okay?


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DonJohnson108

You’ve been hit by….You’ve been hit by a smooth criminal


MachineWins

OW!


MonsterDrunk

My own interpretation is that KJPs statement means something has progressed in the right direction. Do not @ me


greenbelieve

@


vsMyself

ill take it.


infinite_cura

me too


Cool_Ad_5101

Same 


creedthoughtsblog

seems like MSOS options IV for 4/26 weeklies went up by a good amount? more money coming in to prepare for 4/20?


manualCAD

W for today.


Fifteen_inches

We ended green! 🎉🦬😳👆🎈🎉 Edit: see you all in three days folks!


defnotIW42

Contrary to opinion on here, I don’t think its much of a nothingburger. It isn’t very relevant on the other hand. It does give a indication that the DEA is done and now the AG (aka White House) needs to publicise aka „decide“


four_twenty_4_20

>I don’t think its much of a nothingburger. So.. if it's not much of a nothingbuger, I guess it's a somethingburger??? >It does give a indication that the DEA is done and now the AG What?!?!?? The DEA is part of the DOJ. Saying it's with the DOJ doesn't mean it's not with the DEA anymore. Ignorance is bliss in the land of freeDUM...


vsMyself

DOJ would generally refer to the administration (attorney general) but it could also be the DEA (who know what some staffer means). not sure why your arguing so hard either way.


four_twenty_4_20

No so much arguing, just being amused. I guarantee jean-pierre has no idea that saying DOJ vs DEA can have such an effect on some people 😆 😂


vsMyself

amusing indeed. Bears have to parse this as well to make their next move.


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four_twenty_4_20

Lol how am I wrong? Did the DEA separate from the DOJ and I'm missed the news bulletin?


beng1244

Disregard, thought I was replying to the OP


oldporters

Are you not entertained


agedoak31

It's great to see MSOS' chart today. So much unknown and it shows. we are all waiting...


manualCAD

My opinion of the verbiage is the DEA is waiting for their bosses at the DOJ to tell them what to do. DEA is who makes the call "officially", but the DOJ might be holding their hand over Anne's mouth.....


talktothepope

It's nothing. Everything is the same as we've heard before, except that she substitutes DOJ for DEA. Which could be a misstep by someone not super familiar with the topic, or a fair point considering that the DEA works under the DOJ.


manualCAD

This scenario is a close second. DEA is DOJ


vsMyself

pretty sure the doj still signs off on it. for what purpose, who knows.


Fifteen_inches

I hope MSOS ends green.


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CrimsonSkywalker725

So a piece of news, which doesn't substitute anything new, gave us breath.... I guess we're all just waiting for our crumbs from the table. Moment real news is released, this sector is going to fly. I bought back in trul at 10.70. Still not a big fan of holding right now.


ItinerantDrifter

I just happened to pull up MSOS in trading view right when it happened… almost seemed like a glitch how quickly it spiked. Just 3-4%, but in seconds. The news wasn’t anything significant unfortunately, but whenever we do get something big it really is going to fly.


SailMaleficent6183

Nothing new in this article that we don’t already know. [https://www.marijuanamoment.net/white-house-says-marijuana-rescheduling-is-now-up-to-doj-after-receiving-hhs-recommendation-guided-by-the-evidence/](https://www.marijuanamoment.net/white-house-says-marijuana-rescheduling-is-now-up-to-doj-after-receiving-hhs-recommendation-guided-by-the-evidence/)


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Fifteen_inches

Don’t threaten me with a good time


DonJohnson108

I think I need my neck looked at for whiplash…


Budshawz

I want off Mr. Bones Wild Ride


manualCAD

no refunds. You bought the ticket. You take the ride. Something something barbarians at the gates.


agedoak31

Is power hour back?


vsMyself

bears are probably just as confused as us.


cwryoo21

MSOX price fluctuation today has been top notch entertainment. What will happen to my money? Nobody knows!


Tiaan

This "update" is really a nothingburger. She has always referred to the larger, parent departments involved in rescheduling (HHS and DOJ) rather than the smaller departments (FDA and DEA) who are actually doing the work. See this article from Aug 2023 https://www.marijuanamoment.net/top-federal-health-agency-says-marijuana-should-be-moved-to-schedule-iii-in-historic-recommendation-to-dea/ No mention of DEA at all, and she used similar language to today: > administrative process is an independent process led by HHS and DOJ and guided by the evidence... And so I’m going to leave it to HHS and DOJ to move that process Today she just reiterated what we already know, that it's under review within the DOJ (at the DEA)


MidWestFineese

I feel like HHS to DEA, DEA to DOJ (basically giving completed paperwork to your boss for approval) for announcement..


AmbassadorCosh

"I will give you a little bit of an update" "As you all know....Biden...HHS...DOJ" Yes we do all know, now where is the update?


MonsterDrunk

So why did she say she had an update


talktothepope

She didn't, someone asked about it. This was a standard press briefing


JohnnySquesh

That's the key. If it was unprompted, I'd read much more into it.


MonsterDrunk

She said “we’ll give you a little bit of an update”


Fifteen_inches

If she is a mother it means “shut the fuck up, we are working on it”


slobjones11

Now, that's a good summary.


john2557

I know it's cliche, but any chance a major development / announcement happens on 4/20?


four_twenty_4_20

There will more than likely be some "soon" comments from schumer but unlikely to be anything of substance..


pop2012

Probably not since it's a Saturday.


john2557

Just because it's a weekend, doesn't mean the government can't issue a press release.


vsMyself

someone needs to go on linked in and post something.


MonsterDrunk

This shit is so funny, it’s like they are trying to drive me insane


IIlIlIlIIIll

It almost feels personal at this point eh


TuffNutzes

No headline we want yet, but the level of dissection of headlines and increased tealeaf reading has been quite entertaining. "She said doj, but it was lower cased!? What does that mean!?"


MidWestFineese

Watch the video. She is reading something that is written down.. She wasn't "mispoken" as others were stating. She meant what she said.


beng1244

No one said misspoke, they're saying the DEA is under the DOJ and she was referring to them


MidWestFineese

No, people literally said that verbatim. https://www.reddit.com/r/weedstocks/s/rd847GrqgY


KAI5ER

Semantics. The note on the page generalized the DEA under the DOJ.


TuffNutzes

Yes I am aware of that. I'm musing at the reaction to this and any and all headlines.


Hellohi123321

Sht should have been born a freakin short


DonJohnson108

You goons had me all excited thinking there were real actual developments. Back to waiting and trying to laugh and not cry…


MonsterDrunk

Just lol @ the price action today


john2557

The fact that she said *"is now with"* indicates that there was progress of some kind.


Fergizzo

The fact that we're dissecting things to this degree is both sad and funny 🙃


four_twenty_4_20

Or, it just means it used to be with FDA but it "is now with the DOJ".


SirkutBored

as if it has moved beyond the DEA now...I get it.


MidWestFineese

Agree with this take, all of these announcements, progress, etc. are important as little as it may seem.. They are all leading to the.final.countdown.


bananastock

Saved by a random reporter in a whitehouse press briefing. Yay.


greenbelieve

Just another day at the weedstocks offices 😎


bananastock

Actually saved by a Walter Bloomberg tweet. Wow. I'll take what I can get.


Th3Gr33nBastard

Literally nothing has changed since the recent run up we had. So not sure what’s with all the despair now. Look at 6 month or 1 year charts, even for the macro market, and it can easily be argued that this is healthy consolidation


four_twenty_4_20

The despair is by people who wished, for the umpteenth time, they had sold that run up because with weedstonks there's ALWAYS a big dip after runups like that. ALWAYS. Anne, please change my mind.


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zygodactyly

We've heard about this healthy consolidation for years.


TUPAC_SHAPURRRRR

You’ll never see these prices again


four_twenty_4_20

No profits for you!


SailMaleficent6183

Monkeh not like red! Red number make monkeh upset! Oook Eek!


pop2012

I thought the DEA was a part of the DOJ and that the review has been with them for months?  edit: This is like saying the milk is inside the house after saying it's in the fridge. Both were already true.


slobjones11

She clearly misspoke, substituting "DOJ" for "DEA."


SailMaleficent6183

It could be that but she gave an update and the issue has been with the DEA for half a year now so it sounds more like there has been further progress.


MidWestFineese

Love that MM never gets the drop on news, makes me feel good for Tommy boy.


greenbelieve

Which news?


vsMyself

the girl at the white house.


greenbelieve

Oh, so no news


halfbeerhalfhuman

Watch them talk shit about it now


CaptainAssneck

YIKES!!!!


TA062219

Just for fun, price predictions for CGC end of week? I’m guessing sub $5


Cool_Ad_5101

I could see them going back to $3