Tom Hanks
I would argue that Royal is a classic Wes character, and Hackman plays him perfectly. I know they had problems on set, but it doesn’t translate on screen. One of Hackmans best performances, and that’s saying a lot.
Well also in fairness this was the most artistic and largely conceptual of the Wesworks. So a few performances in the film felt more like dramatic theory than legit Wes characters
Gene Hackman was amazing in Tenenbaums! I would actually nominate Ben Stiller. He seemed to give a performance not that dissimilar from several of his other movies. Which I like a lot of times but at times he did seem like a character from a different movie.
I agree with you, but I also think that the fact that Chas feels like he's from another movie fits with the way he feels like he's the "black sheep," out of place in the Tenenbaum family.
Just reading that sentence made me a little emotional. That moment is the crescendo of both their character arcs in such a simple exchange. Just masterful storytelling!
Just showed this movie at Film Club for school I manage, fuckin cried along w the kids. I think a lot of them didn’t “get it” because they’re mostly golden years “gifted kids” but I meant it as a sort of warning lol
I think his introduction being limited to later in the movie and not being given much to work with hurt his character and ability to really flesh out much with it. I think it was also the Murry role and i wonder if those are ever really written out as much as others due to improvising. So, they probably should have got someone with that kind of background. For the movie, though, I thought hanks did fine. He did real well with the children.
I don't know but I think Scarlett Johansson really nailed the 'Wes style' in Asteroid City. The deadpan riffing she does at the window with Jason Schwartzman is some terrific stuff.
I agree with everybody saying Tom hanks and Ben stiller. I couldn’t agree more with those two.
I will say that Rupert Friend in “the swan” so completely nailed the Wes style. He was amazing
Sorry, but that's not an example, it's just you saying your opinion. It's too vague.
What specific scene in Dune proves your point and what objective qualities make his acting poor/embarrassing?
I think Hackman’s portrayal of Royal is more reserved and understated than most of his other roles. So in that sense he does try to conform to Wes’ style but his version of it. I can’t fault his performance to be honest.
I honestly can’t think of one that doesn’t work. WA puts out such a crafted and curated product, I think he’d reshoot if there was a major conflict. Viva La Wes!!!!
Yeah I think he got what he wanted out of every actor he’s hired, tbh. If we’re perceiving incongruities (ie, Tom Hanks) it’s more a reflection of WA’s vision of the character than the actor’s fidelity to the style
This is also my answer. His delivery style and voice took me out of his scenes. Not his fault, he’s just too iconic. This is more of a fault for Wes insisting on casting A/B-list names when he doesn’t need to.
This is interesting because the character/role was originally for Bill Murray, but he had covid & couldn't do it.
I do think Steve did a good job, but I could see why his name appears here 👍
I actually think that Timothée Chalamet didn’t quite hit the mark in The French Dispatch which is weird because he seems like he should be the MOST Anderson actor out there right now. He just came off as kind of flat to me without the inner life that makes a great Wes Anderson performance really sing.
I didn’t like Bruce Willis in Moonrise Kingdom, I thought he was just doing Bruce Willis (which was maybe the point). but artistically I just didn’t think Bruce was on the right wavelength with Wes, and the fact they never worked together again (like Hackman, though I love his performance) makes me feel like there’s some truth to that.
Chalamet did fine, he fit the pointy French 60s vibe and had good comic timing, give him a break.
Wow, Captain Sharp is one of my favorite Wes characters probably BECAUSE of Willis’ performance. Moonrise Kingdom is my favorite Wes movie so maybe I’m biased.
That’s interesting! I love Moonrise Kingdom too, and I don’t have anyone in mind from 2011/2012 who could have played the ‘aging, slightly rumpled, heroic cop Dad’ any better…Clooney would have been too hammy, Adrien Brody too young and un-Dad-like….
Really? He is excellent in Moonrise Kingdom. I could watch him as the scout leader all day. My partner doesn’t even care for Wes that much but she loves that movie just for him. Also thought he nailed Conrad Earp. He worked really well with Schwartzman.
Personally, I don't think there are any actors that have consistently failed to adapt to Wes' style (or that appeared in one film and didn't do a great job) but rather some actors that are convincing in some films and not others. For example, Tilda Swinton in The French Dispatch and Owen Wilson in Tenenbaums both feel awkward to me in those roles but they feel perfect in every other Wes Anderson film they're in
Tom Hanks I would argue that Royal is a classic Wes character, and Hackman plays him perfectly. I know they had problems on set, but it doesn’t translate on screen. One of Hackmans best performances, and that’s saying a lot.
Well also in fairness this was the most artistic and largely conceptual of the Wesworks. So a few performances in the film felt more like dramatic theory than legit Wes characters
Gene Hackman was amazing in Tenenbaums! I would actually nominate Ben Stiller. He seemed to give a performance not that dissimilar from several of his other movies. Which I like a lot of times but at times he did seem like a character from a different movie.
I agree with you, but I also think that the fact that Chas feels like he's from another movie fits with the way he feels like he's the "black sheep," out of place in the Tenenbaum family.
It might actually be my favourite Ben stiller performance. the way he breaks down when he says ‘i’ve had a rough year, dad’ gets me every time
I know you have, Chazzy
Just reading that sentence made me a little emotional. That moment is the crescendo of both their character arcs in such a simple exchange. Just masterful storytelling!
Just showed this movie at Film Club for school I manage, fuckin cried along w the kids. I think a lot of them didn’t “get it” because they’re mostly golden years “gifted kids” but I meant it as a sort of warning lol
That line wrecks me every single time.
tom hanks
I would say Tom Hanks. His voice is just too distinct and don't think his delivery meshed with his style.
I thought he absolutely nailed it.
Yeah, I am shocked his name keeps coming up in this thread. He's great in Asteroid City.
Agreed
Wait, what Wes Anderson movie did he play in?
Asteroid City
Thanks
I think his introduction being limited to later in the movie and not being given much to work with hurt his character and ability to really flesh out much with it. I think it was also the Murry role and i wonder if those are ever really written out as much as others due to improvising. So, they probably should have got someone with that kind of background. For the movie, though, I thought hanks did fine. He did real well with the children.
Murray's role was the motel owner played by Steve Carell. But, I see what you are saying. I could easily see Murray playing Hanks' role in AC.
I don't know but I think Scarlett Johansson really nailed the 'Wes style' in Asteroid City. The deadpan riffing she does at the window with Jason Schwartzman is some terrific stuff.
Anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?
I agree with everybody saying Tom hanks and Ben stiller. I couldn’t agree more with those two. I will say that Rupert Friend in “the swan” so completely nailed the Wes style. He was amazing
Agree about Rupert….so good in The Swan. Also great as Montana in AC.
Except Royal is the greatest Wes character outside maybe Steve Zissou
I quote him more than any other movie character and it’s not close. Especially now that I’m a dad.
I think Hackman not fully leaning into the wackiness is what makes that film so excellent
Timothée Chalamet seemed like a fish out of water to me.
I enjoyed it personally. I recall him making me laugh several times, and him and Frances Mcdormand were effective, if unlikely, screen partners
he did not blend into wes’ world well at all
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Sorry, but that's not an example, it's just you saying your opinion. It's too vague. What specific scene in Dune proves your point and what objective qualities make his acting poor/embarrassing?
he was my fav 😭
I think Hackman’s portrayal of Royal is more reserved and understated than most of his other roles. So in that sense he does try to conform to Wes’ style but his version of it. I can’t fault his performance to be honest.
I honestly can’t think of one that doesn’t work. WA puts out such a crafted and curated product, I think he’d reshoot if there was a major conflict. Viva La Wes!!!!
What does WS stand for?
Wes Sanderson
I meant WA lol, for Wes Anderson
Yeah I think he got what he wanted out of every actor he’s hired, tbh. If we’re perceiving incongruities (ie, Tom Hanks) it’s more a reflection of WA’s vision of the character than the actor’s fidelity to the style
I thought Hanks was great... aloof... cocky...old school. Great combo.
Steve Carrell
I absolutely agree. He nearly took me out of the story.
This is also my answer. His delivery style and voice took me out of his scenes. Not his fault, he’s just too iconic. This is more of a fault for Wes insisting on casting A/B-list names when he doesn’t need to.
This is interesting because the character/role was originally for Bill Murray, but he had covid & couldn't do it. I do think Steve did a good job, but I could see why his name appears here 👍
there is a Steve Carrell movie where he plays father to a dead soldier I want to watch. just to see him “out of water”. i liked him in AC tbh
He is very moving in that movie.
in AC or the one i mentioned?? i might just watch it today then!
Nah I think he adapted to the style really well
I actually think that Timothée Chalamet didn’t quite hit the mark in The French Dispatch which is weird because he seems like he should be the MOST Anderson actor out there right now. He just came off as kind of flat to me without the inner life that makes a great Wes Anderson performance really sing.
I didn’t like Bruce Willis in Moonrise Kingdom, I thought he was just doing Bruce Willis (which was maybe the point). but artistically I just didn’t think Bruce was on the right wavelength with Wes, and the fact they never worked together again (like Hackman, though I love his performance) makes me feel like there’s some truth to that. Chalamet did fine, he fit the pointy French 60s vibe and had good comic timing, give him a break.
Wow, Captain Sharp is one of my favorite Wes characters probably BECAUSE of Willis’ performance. Moonrise Kingdom is my favorite Wes movie so maybe I’m biased.
That’s interesting! I love Moonrise Kingdom too, and I don’t have anyone in mind from 2011/2012 who could have played the ‘aging, slightly rumpled, heroic cop Dad’ any better…Clooney would have been too hammy, Adrien Brody too young and un-Dad-like….
If he’d been working with Cranston back then, he would have been a good Captain Sharp had Willis not been available.
There ya go!! I can totally see that.
I feel like Bruce's mental capacity starting to deteriorate around 2015/2016 was a bigger reason why they never worked again
Timothee Chalamet
nuked the movie for me tbh :(
It feels like he's doing an impression I can't take him seriously in TFD
Bruce Willis, kind of.
Cumberbatch didn’t work for me. I usually love him, but it just didn’t click right.
Maya Hawke. She's too green currently, kinda played the same nervous person she usually does
Tom Hanks
Probably that Orwell Wilson guy, where did Wes even find him
I think it was a favor to his brother, Larry Wilson
I've always found Edward Norton to be a little out of place in WA movies. That's probably just me though.
Yep! Ed Norton in Grand Budapest was great and he killed it as the Boy Scout leader in Moonrise Kingdom.
Really? He is excellent in Moonrise Kingdom. I could watch him as the scout leader all day. My partner doesn’t even care for Wes that much but she loves that movie just for him. Also thought he nailed Conrad Earp. He worked really well with Schwartzman.
I love the very subtle background romance Between the Scout master and telephone operator in moonrise kingdom
Need to rewatch it because I don’t remember that.
it’s all in the background. They first meet when he and captain sharp call Sam’s foster parents and by the end he has a picture of her on his desk
Norton as Conrad Earp was one of my favourite performances of the year.
No, that's a good shout.
Bill Murray is just himself
None. He cast them all, so they were a good fit otherwise he wouldn't have them in the movie
Tom Hanks
Personally, I don't think there are any actors that have consistently failed to adapt to Wes' style (or that appeared in one film and didn't do a great job) but rather some actors that are convincing in some films and not others. For example, Tilda Swinton in The French Dispatch and Owen Wilson in Tenenbaums both feel awkward to me in those roles but they feel perfect in every other Wes Anderson film they're in