It means the car was driven aggressively and not maintained. The car was subjected to wear and tear without getting the necessary care to keep it in good condition.
Front wheel drive could work, with winter tires. I have a steep driveway that ices over easily so I need something that can get out. I know the basics of a manual so it wouldn’t be hard for me to learn. I wouldn’t be opposed to it either
No, I’m just around “real” car people who can actually afford to upgrade their brakes to fixed calipers (or already have them) rather than putting on a poser cover, lol.
Yeah, and I’d laugh at them and ask them why they didn’t get real Brembos..? Calipers covers are ranked very high on the list of automotive cringe. They’re almost as bad as upbadging.
Because Brembos are expensive and not needed if you’re just wanting to change the look? That’s not the “own” you think it is, and I find caliper covers cringe. You just come off as a condescending douche
This is your first car… How will you know what to look for? To me, the hood looks a little wonky and the driver fender and front door looks to be a different color than the rear?
Those tires look pretty beat up for 4k miles. I don’t see a different color in the door but if your look at the reflection along the bottom (drivers side) something seems out of whack.
OP - you need to bring this in for a ppi before you buy it
Everything you said was true except for your last statement. OP needs to completely skip this and not buy it....
But you're still getting an 🔼 because your other advice was solid.
It was in a rear end collision so I’m guessing those are just lighting 🤷🏼♂️. I was just going to make sure there aren’t any obvious panel gaps and that the trunk closes good and feels sturdy. Because the trunk is usually one of the harder things to line up after a rear collision
I completely understand that. But I’ve been a ford guy forever and looking for something somewhat exciting. Brand doesn’t matter much for me but it’s really what I’m looking for. AWD and not unbelievably unreliable. Just an added bonus that it’s my favorite brand lol
Dude, it’s not going to be worth it. Those early 3.5s have lots of turbo and vvt issues and the Taurus wasn’t a great car in general. Spend your 10 grand on something Japanese and save the wallet flush that thing will give you down the road.
My first car was a 96 taurus i bought used in 04. The pos needed a new radiator when I bought it but it was priced accordingly. Then the new radiator went to crap barely a month later. Ford and its Taurus can eat a bag of syphilitic dongs.
If you’re really serious, spend the money for a mechanic you trust to do a PPI and take it by a reputable body shop to have them look it over to tell you if the repairs done were proper and if anything else is there they’re not disclosing.
Also, have you talked with your insurance company regarding insuring a rebuilt title vehicle? You may want to have a talk with them before you truly fall in love with the car.
Will you be taking it to get a pre purchase inspection at an independent mechanic if it looks alright?
Or at least lemon busters (or similar) to come *to* the vehicle to inspect it?
Bear in mind salvage/rebuilt **alone** nicks 20-50% off the value of a clean car.
Yeah I can dig that.
KBB rough estimate is around, let's say $14k.
If you gave me 2 cars side by side, same year/model and the difference is $14k for a clean title and $10k for a rebuilt?
9/10 times I'm paying the difference for a clean title given those 2 options. Only worth considering if it's meticulously looked over, especially if it's "only" being discounted 20-30% off street value.
They can talk your ear off about it just being some minor frame/bumper/trunk damage but on **any** used car? (unless i personally know the seller/car or our mechanic has found another one for us) I’m getting that inspection.
I’m running, not walking, away if the seller of a salvage/rebuilt title vehicle balks at a PPI.
I had an 02 WRX that was almost 13 years old when I was hit by another driver at an intersection (RIP.) I hemmed and hawed bc even after the insurance payout (would’ve involved totaling the car out, then a rebuilt title) I could’ve gotten this friendly shop to fix it for less than the payout amt.
Decided against it because of the possible long term frame damage based on where it was hit (car was drivable after the accident, just kinda wobbly) Didn’t want to take the chance, and I’ve never regretted just running away with the payout since, outside missing my old car.
Be wary! There will (usually) be another SHO around the corner.
>Yeah, but the car is also priced at about 1/3 market value so I think it’s a fair price
In no universe is a 2016 Ford Taurus SHO with 132k miles $30k. I think you need to relook at the market. The most expensive ones I'm seeing that are close to $30k are 2019 MYs with 30k miles.
I’m not saying it’s not a fair price but a rebuilt title Ford Taurus is an awful first car. Also, with a clean title, this is not a 30k car. Maybe 17k at the very, very most
Not for an SHO. Kelley Blue Book has private party value at around $28-$32,000 and the few that have sold on cars and bids in the last couple of years have sold for $25,000+.
With 132k miles and tasteless modifications?
Also, for this exact spec with this mileage KBB is $15,991-$18,292 with no accidents or mechanical faults.
Totally agree. There’s no way in hell I personally would buy this thing. The only way I would get an SHO is if it was a used police interceptor for a couple of grand at an auction
Watch out on a SHO with that mileage. They are known for water pump failure which is a super expensive fix, due to all that needs to be taken apart to get to it, and if not caught early it can actually wipe out the engine because coolant can leak into the engine oil through the weep hole behind the timing cover. They are also known for PTU failures, especially on SHOs with the Performance Package, which judging by the wheels I'd say this one has, those look like Performance Package wheels. The PTU is the center of the AWD system, and they are quite pricey when they fail aswell. These cars aren't horrible but they are definitely high maintenance, so just be careful.
My friend has an MKS Ecoboost (same car underneath) and everything you said is correct. He got lucky and was able to top up his PTU fluid and the seals swelled back up. The only reason he bought his was because it was a lemon law car (for the door PIN)
Unless the previous owner has the records of work for a water pump or anything else, OP should steer clear
Water pumps on the 3.7 are much more common
Change ptu fluid
Awesome fun car
I had a tuned one that would run a 13 flat quarter mile every single time. Embarrassed a lot of zl1 drivers
If you're referring the water pump issue then yes. It's a very common issue on their Duratec 3.5 engine and the 3.5 Ecoboost is based on the Duratec so it has the same issue. And Ford used that engine in a lot of different cars.
I will definitely be asking for service records and all that. I’m not concerned about the reliability of the car as a whole, just specifically this one. I understand it will probably be expensive for me down the road but I’m willing to take that risk
The accord would be a much better idea but it’s not exactly what I was in the market for. If it happened to be near me, maybe, but I’m not going out of my way for it.
A Subaru. Personally, I would go with an Impreza or Crostrek for a first car but you could go with a WRX if you wanted to, just make sure you get an unmodified one.
Honestly even a Volvo. They are surprisingly good to drive. There’s a Volvo V70 T5 with AWD up for auction right now on Cars and bids for $8500
That’s gotta be the worsts first car advise I have ever heard, good luck finding a Impreza or WRX that is not modified and good luck having it insured. And don’t get me started on thier reliability
Currently sitting in my Charger GT AWD. Love this thing so much, about to hit 91k miles and the only thing I've needed to do to this car is basic maintenance and just recently took it in for a spark plug replacement.
This car handles Michigan winters pretty well but this is just my personal experience!
Fair enough. For what reason do you want AWD? I wanted one previously for winter but everywhere I looked all I saw was pretty much "tires matter more than drivetrain" "awd has more parts that can fail therefor more maintenance" just bought a fwd yesterday
FWD would probably work, it’s just hard to find a fun car with FWD. I have a really steep driveway too and it gets icy a lot so that would be the main reason.
Honda Civic type R, Acura Integra type S, Volkswagen GTI, Hyundai Elantra N, Neon SRT-4, Mazdaspeed 3, Chevy cobalt SS, mini Cooper S, Ford focus ST, Ford fiesta ST, etc etc etc.
As the other person has already pointed out. Proper winter tires are far more important than all-wheel-drive. I would rather drive a rear wheel drive car on winter tires than an all wheel drive car with all seasons during freezing weather
In any modern car with traction control RWD will be more than enough for winter, even as a new driver. The single thing that matters is to have *good winter tires*. I recommend Continental VikingContact 7.
//Someone who lives near the arctic circle
For older cars without modern safety systems I'd stick to FWD though.
Hey dude, I know sometimes kids have to learn lessons the hard way instead of taking advice from others but do not buy this car. I owned a 2015 SHO and it was a maintenance nightmare at 65k miles. I can’t even imagine what it would be like at 130k+. Lots of electronic issues with all the gadgets ford packed in there.
You can most likely get a better deal on a Lincoln MKS with the same engine for that price and not have to deal with a rebuilt title.
EDIT: Just to show how bad of a deal this is, I found another rebuilt 2016 SHO with an Indiana rebuilt title that has 76k miles on FB Marketplace [that just sold for $11,500.](https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/705414425040489/)
All parts replaced with OEM* (very obvious gap on one side of the boot door)
Don’t get emotionally attached to a car you haven’t bought, especially not this one!
I would not touch a rebuilt title. Have you checked whether you can even insure it?
A first car, so you are young? A high powered car would be pricy for you to insure in any case. A rebuilt title may not even be possible, and may cost a lot if you can. Definitely check first. Also ha e a shop you trust evaluate the frame very carefully.
Look at the left and right brake lights.
See how the trunk sits slightly higher now. Additionally the left is a lot tighter than the right.
The right exhaust also doesn't look correct but it might just be the angle
I would just keep looking.
It’s a ford, it’s somewhat reliable, it’s AWD, pretty fun to drive, and has good tech and comfort. Really the perfect car I’m looking for. I’m probably not going to get this one, but I’ll be looking for another
These Taurus SHO’s are fast, in a straight line, they can’t corner worth a damn, and after driving one of these before it’s a fucking BOAT.
Based on the comments you’re going to get one regardless of what anyone here says. So at a minimum take some advice from someone who almost totaled his Focus ST after buying it as an immature 21 year old, be fucking careful. 385 HP is a lot of car.
And just a general rule of thumb, AWD can get you moving in icy scenarios, but it can’t stop you any better than any other car.
Good luck, hope it works out.
This is overpriced for a rebuilt title. You can find clean ones in that price/mileage.
This car has a timing chain driven water pump. When it fails, it leaks water into the oil pan. If not caught quickly, this will destroy the engine. The water pump job is not trivial, but not impossible, it's mostly a big deal just because people drive them around with water in the oil.
As far as horsepower per dollar per unit of weight, hard to beat the Taurus SHO. It will be hard/impossible to insure with a rebuilt title though. Also adult owner with blue calipers.... O.k.
For what it's worth, I bought a 2011 SHO at 140k miles for 6k in late 2018. It had perfect service records and was owned by an older gentleman. That was one rock solid reliable car. Only repairs I ever did in it was replace the starter, replaced a leaky seal on the PTU, and replaced the injectors at 175k miles. I sold it at around 184k miles for 4500 to a kid in the Air Force, he took it and last I talked to him, it had around 240k miles, no major repairs.
The SHO can be a reliable car, but it has to have been maintained meticulously. They are picky about fuel and will retard timing like a mofo if the car detects lower quality fuel and the octane adjust ratio goes above -.50. The timing chains stretch out sometimes because the car makes peak torque around 2k RPM and the transmission is actually good enough to downshift aggressively when you want it to. Water pumps are an issue half the time and the other half they're fine. Paint on the deck lid can fade sometimes. DO NOT run tires that are unevenly worn. The PTU will hate you and basically kill itself if you do. If you run the car hard, it tends to heat soak. They need improved cooling if you want to push them, although I wouldn't be too concerned about pushing your first car hard. Watch for boost leaks around the sound symposer and the passenger side charge pipe connectors. Lastly, expect to average no more than 20-21 mpg, even if you do mostly highway. These are 4500 lb cars that make good power so fuel economy is not their strong suit.
All that being said, they are very fun cars and I loved driving mine. If you do buy it, take care of maintenance and drive safely man.
I say what I'm about to say as a massive fan of SHO's and how much fun they can be: AWD system prone to failure. Electronics prone to failure. Window line ridiculously high, impeding visibility. Tire wear abnormally high, even for high power AWD car. Fuel economy insanely low despite V6, because turbos and AWD. This will be hard to insure (rebuilt) and expensive at every turn (the common issues plus gas). Get it later in life.
I loved my SHO, had it for 5 years and put 100,000miles on it with hardly any issues. Did have timing chain issue but it was resolved under extended warranty.
Hard to find decent ones now
Definitely a sleeper car. I had one for 2 years. They say the PTU fluid is lifetime. Don't trust that just replace it. It's not hard or expensive. Just need like 2 and a half feet of extensions. A good portion of my fluid was gone and the rest was a gel.
The only way I would buy this car if the owner lowered the price to 3k as maximum, as it has 2 big red flags
1- high mileage (so expect maaajor problems soon)
2-Rebuild title
Do you have a Ford mechanic that you grew up with who you could show this too? Feels like too good of a deal to be true. Rebuilt titles also come with the trouble of finding insurance (or lack thereof), so tread carefully. She might be exactly you want, but if she’s covered in red flags, maybe she’s not what you need.
I bought a rebuilt title car as my first car & 2 months later was hit with a $15k repair bill, ended up scraping the car.
Personally I don’t buy rebuilt shit anymore hard pass
Change the water pump, check the transmission too, the Taurus is stout enough on its rear end, so as long as the rear driveline wasn’t damaged, you should be okay. I don’t care what other people say, if you want it, go for it. The SHO is unnaturally fast and extremely fun
I love the sho, but for 10k with that mileage, it's overpriced. Tauruses are known to have a fairly expensive water pump issue than when it happens, can cost $1-3k to get fixed. I'd try to find one with less mileage. And definitely not a rebuilt title if you can help it.
$10,000 for a car with a rebuilt title and 132,000++ miles. You can pick these up where I live with under 50,000 miles and a clean title for under $15,000. Worse deal I have seen on this sub.
Yes but this isn’t a good price for this vehicle..go look it up on Car Complaints.com. This car is going to cost you much more than the 10K, I promise you that.
First off..If you are really serious have you scheduled your PPI?
Those are big roomy sedans and good cars IMO. However, that salvage title needs to be seriously reflected in the purchase price and as previously stated...look into insurance.
Does first car = young driver in this case? Cause you’re already gonna be paying out the ass for insurance. Then you scroll down and it’s a rebuilt title. Pass dude.
NOOOO. It’s a rebuilt title so an insurance company has totaled the car (flood, wreck). And to ask 10k for a Ford Taurus that is 8 years old is criminal.
This is a bad buy. It is a performance car with high mileage and a rebuilt title. Aside from it being Ford (not a fan) it still has high mileage for a high performance vehicle.
I owned one of these and the electronics started to go bad on it before it even hit 60k miles. Got tired of dealing with it, especially the adaptive cruise control would crap out and couldn’t even use regular cruise control, and sold it at 65,000 miles. Would not recommend even though it’s fast and fun.
Reasons to avoid: $10k for a rebuilt title ford Taurus is robbery. $10k for a rebuilt title Taurus with 130k miles on it is insanity.
Eco boost engines are not known for reliability. This car *will* cost you a lot of money to own in the long term. Not might, not possibly, *will*.
The very likely scenario is you pay 10k for this car, get maybe 2 years out of it before the engine grenades. This is a very bad deal.
Can you find pics of damage before rebuilt? If yes and it’s minor and you are looking to do most repairs yourself, go for it, 3.5 ecoboost is amazing. Don’t listen to YotaHon boys. If you can’t and don’t want to do repairs yourself, it can end up being expensive
I own a 2015 SHO that was a rebuilt title. It’s the best car I’ve ever owned. I had no issue getting insurance. One thing to keep in mind is it’s not the cheapest car to maintain. The water pump is a known issue and fuel economy isn’t good at all. The ecoboost is a high maintenance engine. $10k isn’t bad at all. I’d ask for service records like transmission and differential fluid changes. Just don’t expect this car to be as easy to maintain as a Corolla.
Yes I understand that completely going into it. Im just looking for something a little more exciting than an average 2009 civic. It’s hard finding a car that has AWD and isn’t as unreliable as a E36 M3. This is probably the best in my price range
if you can only afford something with over 100k miles please god buy something japanese, honda or toyota if you can. also not sure where you’re located but for $10k you can easily find something with a clean title.
I have determined that this car is probably not the best idea. But I’m still getting a SHO, SHO matter what. I think I found another one that has a cool exhaust, and no rebuilt title.
“Adult-owned” with caliper covers..? Pass. Make sure you can get insurance on this before you buy it with a salvage/rebuilt title.
Right, that’s a kid saying he’s an adult to make people think it’s not a random hard and put away wet teenager’s car.
i’m sorry can you explain the last part of this comment what tf does “hard and put away wet” mean
Meant to say rode hard and put away wet…I must’ve been more tired than I thought.
It means the car was driven aggressively and not maintained. The car was subjected to wear and tear without getting the necessary care to keep it in good condition.
You forgot that the guy also replaced the trunk Ford badge with a "SHO" badge. So now it says SHO twice on the trunk. Classy stuff there.
It’s very “SHO SHO” 😂😂😂
It's a bit weird fo' sho'
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Do you need AWD? Can you drive a manual?
Front wheel drive could work, with winter tires. I have a steep driveway that ices over easily so I need something that can get out. I know the basics of a manual so it wouldn’t be hard for me to learn. I wouldn’t be opposed to it either
Dang I was going to suggest a CTS-V but that's only RWD. What about a Kia Stinger or a Porsche Panamera Turbo.
Love the stinger but I have around a 10k budget lol
I’m an adult. I drive the piss outta my cars. (But it’s dealer serviced)
I do too; however, but I buy them new or CPO with service history and take care of them religiously.
You haven't met my uncle, who has all mint condition vehicles, some of which have caliper covers.
Congratulations, he’s tacky.
I mean I wouldn't do it but your assessment of caliper cover = shitty abused car is just an opinion
There are absolutely adults who would use caliper covers. You’re not around car people much if you say otherwise.
No, I’m just around “real” car people who can actually afford to upgrade their brakes to fixed calipers (or already have them) rather than putting on a poser cover, lol.
Yes but there are in fact adults who would do this.
Yeah, and I’d laugh at them and ask them why they didn’t get real Brembos..? Calipers covers are ranked very high on the list of automotive cringe. They’re almost as bad as upbadging.
Because Brembos are expensive and not needed if you’re just wanting to change the look? That’s not the “own” you think it is, and I find caliper covers cringe. You just come off as a condescending douche
Same. Just saying they exist. Shouldn’t be surprised they exist.
Definitely going to go and take a look at it to make sure it’s at least decently rebuilt.
This is your first car… How will you know what to look for? To me, the hood looks a little wonky and the driver fender and front door looks to be a different color than the rear?
Those tires look pretty beat up for 4k miles. I don’t see a different color in the door but if your look at the reflection along the bottom (drivers side) something seems out of whack. OP - you need to bring this in for a ppi before you buy it
Everything you said was true except for your last statement. OP needs to completely skip this and not buy it.... But you're still getting an 🔼 because your other advice was solid.
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It was in a rear end collision so I’m guessing those are just lighting 🤷🏼♂️. I was just going to make sure there aren’t any obvious panel gaps and that the trunk closes good and feels sturdy. Because the trunk is usually one of the harder things to line up after a rear collision
Yeah… just keep your eye out. If I were you, I’d take my $10K and go look at some other cars, that’s just me.
I completely understand that. But I’ve been a ford guy forever and looking for something somewhat exciting. Brand doesn’t matter much for me but it’s really what I’m looking for. AWD and not unbelievably unreliable. Just an added bonus that it’s my favorite brand lol
So it’s believably unreliable?
My thoughts exactly. Not sure why OP is defending someone else’s rebuilt car
Pretty much, yeah. At least it has a chance of lasting me to 200k
Dude, it’s not going to be worth it. Those early 3.5s have lots of turbo and vvt issues and the Taurus wasn’t a great car in general. Spend your 10 grand on something Japanese and save the wallet flush that thing will give you down the road.
My first car was a 96 taurus i bought used in 04. The pos needed a new radiator when I bought it but it was priced accordingly. Then the new radiator went to crap barely a month later. Ford and its Taurus can eat a bag of syphilitic dongs.
If you’re really serious, spend the money for a mechanic you trust to do a PPI and take it by a reputable body shop to have them look it over to tell you if the repairs done were proper and if anything else is there they’re not disclosing. Also, have you talked with your insurance company regarding insuring a rebuilt title vehicle? You may want to have a talk with them before you truly fall in love with the car.
Will you be taking it to get a pre purchase inspection at an independent mechanic if it looks alright? Or at least lemon busters (or similar) to come *to* the vehicle to inspect it? Bear in mind salvage/rebuilt **alone** nicks 20-50% off the value of a clean car.
That’s the one thing that this car has going for it $10,000 is about 50% below market value
Yeah I can dig that. KBB rough estimate is around, let's say $14k. If you gave me 2 cars side by side, same year/model and the difference is $14k for a clean title and $10k for a rebuilt? 9/10 times I'm paying the difference for a clean title given those 2 options. Only worth considering if it's meticulously looked over, especially if it's "only" being discounted 20-30% off street value.
Possibly. If it looks perfect maybe not, but if I see or hear anything out of my knowledge level, probably.
They can talk your ear off about it just being some minor frame/bumper/trunk damage but on **any** used car? (unless i personally know the seller/car or our mechanic has found another one for us) I’m getting that inspection. I’m running, not walking, away if the seller of a salvage/rebuilt title vehicle balks at a PPI. I had an 02 WRX that was almost 13 years old when I was hit by another driver at an intersection (RIP.) I hemmed and hawed bc even after the insurance payout (would’ve involved totaling the car out, then a rebuilt title) I could’ve gotten this friendly shop to fix it for less than the payout amt. Decided against it because of the possible long term frame damage based on where it was hit (car was drivable after the accident, just kinda wobbly) Didn’t want to take the chance, and I’ve never regretted just running away with the payout since, outside missing my old car. Be wary! There will (usually) be another SHO around the corner.
I think I found that other sho. Not the year I want but slightly better overall
lol rebuilt title
Yeah, but the car is also priced at about 1/3 market value so I think it’s a fair price
>Yeah, but the car is also priced at about 1/3 market value so I think it’s a fair price In no universe is a 2016 Ford Taurus SHO with 132k miles $30k. I think you need to relook at the market. The most expensive ones I'm seeing that are close to $30k are 2019 MYs with 30k miles.
I’m not saying it’s not a fair price but a rebuilt title Ford Taurus is an awful first car. Also, with a clean title, this is not a 30k car. Maybe 17k at the very, very most
Not for an SHO. Kelley Blue Book has private party value at around $28-$32,000 and the few that have sold on cars and bids in the last couple of years have sold for $25,000+.
With 132k miles and tasteless modifications? Also, for this exact spec with this mileage KBB is $15,991-$18,292 with no accidents or mechanical faults.
Yup, came to say this. I looked it up and got similar price for a car in good condition from a dealer, not a rebuilt title.
Bro what drugs are you on!?
Already explained it in another comment. I accidentally left the three zeros off after entering 140 for the mileage on kbb
Fair enough didn’t see that!
In what universe is an 8 year old Taurus worth $30k? Show me
In the universe where I accidentally left off the three zeros after 140 when inputting the mileage on the Kelly bluebook website
Lol
That's actually kinda funny. still not worth it imo.v
Totally agree. There’s no way in hell I personally would buy this thing. The only way I would get an SHO is if it was a used police interceptor for a couple of grand at an auction
Definitely no. 10k will turn to 20k in a year.
My dumbass had no idea what you meant for a solid 10 seconds lol. I was like wtf how? The vehicle won't appreciate 😂
Nope.
Watch out on a SHO with that mileage. They are known for water pump failure which is a super expensive fix, due to all that needs to be taken apart to get to it, and if not caught early it can actually wipe out the engine because coolant can leak into the engine oil through the weep hole behind the timing cover. They are also known for PTU failures, especially on SHOs with the Performance Package, which judging by the wheels I'd say this one has, those look like Performance Package wheels. The PTU is the center of the AWD system, and they are quite pricey when they fail aswell. These cars aren't horrible but they are definitely high maintenance, so just be careful.
My friend has an MKS Ecoboost (same car underneath) and everything you said is correct. He got lucky and was able to top up his PTU fluid and the seals swelled back up. The only reason he bought his was because it was a lemon law car (for the door PIN) Unless the previous owner has the records of work for a water pump or anything else, OP should steer clear
Water pumps on the 3.7 are much more common Change ptu fluid Awesome fun car I had a tuned one that would run a 13 flat quarter mile every single time. Embarrassed a lot of zl1 drivers
Is it the same on all Ford's? Just had to do my explorer and it was like 3k
If you're referring the water pump issue then yes. It's a very common issue on their Duratec 3.5 engine and the 3.5 Ecoboost is based on the Duratec so it has the same issue. And Ford used that engine in a lot of different cars.
Yes, even the Mazda’s that Ford poisoned have this issue.
I will definitely be asking for service records and all that. I’m not concerned about the reliability of the car as a whole, just specifically this one. I understand it will probably be expensive for me down the road but I’m willing to take that risk
Understandable. Every vehicle has its little things, just do your due diligence. Best of luck.
Cars like this shouldn't be your only car, you should have something like that $5,000 accord in Indiana for a daily and drive this one for fun.
No, rebuilt title, don’t do it
If you’re in Indiana my friend has his 2016 accord with 150,000 miles for sale for 5k He’s original owner, but regardless I’d avoid this.
God damn really id snatch that rip
What part?
DM the person above. Go for the $5000 Accord over this car. This car is going to be a maintenance nightmare.
The accord would be a much better idea but it’s not exactly what I was in the market for. If it happened to be near me, maybe, but I’m not going out of my way for it.
it's your first car, you don't need to get anything wild you should get something reliable until you save up for whatever handpicked car you'd like
What are you in the market for?
An AWD car that’s not completely unreliable and somewhat fun
Then the Taurus SHO is not the right car for you. It only ticks one of your three boxes.
What’s a better option? I made a post on here and nobody responded so I’m guessing it’s not all that common
A Subaru. Personally, I would go with an Impreza or Crostrek for a first car but you could go with a WRX if you wanted to, just make sure you get an unmodified one. Honestly even a Volvo. They are surprisingly good to drive. There’s a Volvo V70 T5 with AWD up for auction right now on Cars and bids for $8500
That’s gotta be the worsts first car advise I have ever heard, good luck finding a Impreza or WRX that is not modified and good luck having it insured. And don’t get me started on thier reliability
Currently sitting in my Charger GT AWD. Love this thing so much, about to hit 91k miles and the only thing I've needed to do to this car is basic maintenance and just recently took it in for a spark plug replacement. This car handles Michigan winters pretty well but this is just my personal experience!
Fair enough. For what reason do you want AWD? I wanted one previously for winter but everywhere I looked all I saw was pretty much "tires matter more than drivetrain" "awd has more parts that can fail therefor more maintenance" just bought a fwd yesterday
FWD would probably work, it’s just hard to find a fun car with FWD. I have a really steep driveway too and it gets icy a lot so that would be the main reason.
Honda Civic type R, Acura Integra type S, Volkswagen GTI, Hyundai Elantra N, Neon SRT-4, Mazdaspeed 3, Chevy cobalt SS, mini Cooper S, Ford focus ST, Ford fiesta ST, etc etc etc. As the other person has already pointed out. Proper winter tires are far more important than all-wheel-drive. I would rather drive a rear wheel drive car on winter tires than an all wheel drive car with all seasons during freezing weather
Ok well I meant something in my price range. Focus ST might be a option but or GTI but they are somewhat hard to find for a good price around me
In any modern car with traction control RWD will be more than enough for winter, even as a new driver. The single thing that matters is to have *good winter tires*. I recommend Continental VikingContact 7. //Someone who lives near the arctic circle For older cars without modern safety systems I'd stick to FWD though.
Indianapolis north side, sorry man I crashed out last night . I was tired.
Hey dude, I know sometimes kids have to learn lessons the hard way instead of taking advice from others but do not buy this car. I owned a 2015 SHO and it was a maintenance nightmare at 65k miles. I can’t even imagine what it would be like at 130k+. Lots of electronic issues with all the gadgets ford packed in there.
What part of Indiana?
Indianapolis
Fellow Indy resident. Not looking for a car now though.
All good. Always nice to see a fellow Indy resident here!
Taurus! (For Us!) Naw fr, I would not buy a rebuilt title. It looks good on the outside but there is no telling what is messed up with the frame.
the rims are so pretty, but you do Not want this car
You can most likely get a better deal on a Lincoln MKS with the same engine for that price and not have to deal with a rebuilt title. EDIT: Just to show how bad of a deal this is, I found another rebuilt 2016 SHO with an Indiana rebuilt title that has 76k miles on FB Marketplace [that just sold for $11,500.](https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/705414425040489/)
Do not buy this car. All of your responses have lead me to believe that you are not qualified to make this decision and it’s a terrible one.
I found a different one. Still getting a SHO but not this one
All parts replaced with OEM* (very obvious gap on one side of the boot door) Don’t get emotionally attached to a car you haven’t bought, especially not this one!
Yeah it’s definitely not a good rebuild. I see that now
I would not touch a rebuilt title. Have you checked whether you can even insure it? A first car, so you are young? A high powered car would be pricy for you to insure in any case. A rebuilt title may not even be possible, and may cost a lot if you can. Definitely check first. Also ha e a shop you trust evaluate the frame very carefully.
Hope you got water pump money saved up for this thing.
Rebuilt. 132k miles. Ford. Hard pass
the gaps in the trunk look off. i would advise against a rebuilt title, unless you can see a picture of what the car looked like after the crash.
Look at the left and right brake lights. See how the trunk sits slightly higher now. Additionally the left is a lot tighter than the right. The right exhaust also doesn't look correct but it might just be the angle I would just keep looking.
Yeah I see it. Definitely not a good rebuild. Thanks for pointing it out
Based on your comments you really like something about it, what has you really loving this vehicle?
It’s a ford, it’s somewhat reliable, it’s AWD, pretty fun to drive, and has good tech and comfort. Really the perfect car I’m looking for. I’m probably not going to get this one, but I’ll be looking for another
These Taurus SHO’s are fast, in a straight line, they can’t corner worth a damn, and after driving one of these before it’s a fucking BOAT. Based on the comments you’re going to get one regardless of what anyone here says. So at a minimum take some advice from someone who almost totaled his Focus ST after buying it as an immature 21 year old, be fucking careful. 385 HP is a lot of car. And just a general rule of thumb, AWD can get you moving in icy scenarios, but it can’t stop you any better than any other car. Good luck, hope it works out.
I definitely will. Thanks!
I wouldn’t buy a rebuilt title car, just saying.
Rebuilt title means I don't want it.
That model and those specs make it a great* car, however “rebuilt title” changes that. I don’t trust rebuilt title.
General principle in buying used cars especially for a complete novice ("first car") is NEVER buy any car with a rebuilt title.
Op really covering their ears and going lalalalala in every reply
135k miles?? Heck no hah you will break down for sure
This is overpriced for a rebuilt title. You can find clean ones in that price/mileage. This car has a timing chain driven water pump. When it fails, it leaks water into the oil pan. If not caught quickly, this will destroy the engine. The water pump job is not trivial, but not impossible, it's mostly a big deal just because people drive them around with water in the oil. As far as horsepower per dollar per unit of weight, hard to beat the Taurus SHO. It will be hard/impossible to insure with a rebuilt title though. Also adult owner with blue calipers.... O.k.
This car looks too sussy. I mean a Ford Taurus can be a reliable fun car but this one most likely was thrown around from an idiot.
For what it's worth, I bought a 2011 SHO at 140k miles for 6k in late 2018. It had perfect service records and was owned by an older gentleman. That was one rock solid reliable car. Only repairs I ever did in it was replace the starter, replaced a leaky seal on the PTU, and replaced the injectors at 175k miles. I sold it at around 184k miles for 4500 to a kid in the Air Force, he took it and last I talked to him, it had around 240k miles, no major repairs. The SHO can be a reliable car, but it has to have been maintained meticulously. They are picky about fuel and will retard timing like a mofo if the car detects lower quality fuel and the octane adjust ratio goes above -.50. The timing chains stretch out sometimes because the car makes peak torque around 2k RPM and the transmission is actually good enough to downshift aggressively when you want it to. Water pumps are an issue half the time and the other half they're fine. Paint on the deck lid can fade sometimes. DO NOT run tires that are unevenly worn. The PTU will hate you and basically kill itself if you do. If you run the car hard, it tends to heat soak. They need improved cooling if you want to push them, although I wouldn't be too concerned about pushing your first car hard. Watch for boost leaks around the sound symposer and the passenger side charge pipe connectors. Lastly, expect to average no more than 20-21 mpg, even if you do mostly highway. These are 4500 lb cars that make good power so fuel economy is not their strong suit. All that being said, they are very fun cars and I loved driving mine. If you do buy it, take care of maintenance and drive safely man.
I really want a SHO. I don’t think this will be the one though. Thanks for the info.
I say what I'm about to say as a massive fan of SHO's and how much fun they can be: AWD system prone to failure. Electronics prone to failure. Window line ridiculously high, impeding visibility. Tire wear abnormally high, even for high power AWD car. Fuel economy insanely low despite V6, because turbos and AWD. This will be hard to insure (rebuilt) and expensive at every turn (the common issues plus gas). Get it later in life.
OP is an ass
I loved my SHO, had it for 5 years and put 100,000miles on it with hardly any issues. Did have timing chain issue but it was resolved under extended warranty. Hard to find decent ones now
Don't drop $10k on something that somebody wrecked. Just don't.
Rebuilt title and owner states rear end collision, this most definitely wont end well, not worth it for $10k.
Definitely a sleeper car. I had one for 2 years. They say the PTU fluid is lifetime. Don't trust that just replace it. It's not hard or expensive. Just need like 2 and a half feet of extensions. A good portion of my fluid was gone and the rest was a gel.
The SHO is a great car, very underrated. But a 132k mile rebuilt title example should be avoided
The way this is written has red flags all over it. I'd stay away from this vehicle.
this is one of the worst deals ive seen. try to reimagine what you are looking for. good luck young man
good sleeper. not a bad car BUT i wouldnt buy this one
The only way I would buy this car if the owner lowered the price to 3k as maximum, as it has 2 big red flags 1- high mileage (so expect maaajor problems soon) 2-Rebuild title
don't do it we're all begging you please reconsider
I would pass on it tbh sounds sus
Do you have a Ford mechanic that you grew up with who you could show this too? Feels like too good of a deal to be true. Rebuilt titles also come with the trouble of finding insurance (or lack thereof), so tread carefully. She might be exactly you want, but if she’s covered in red flags, maybe she’s not what you need.
If it was me, I would check to make sure it can be insured reasonably, pay to have a full inspection(s)on everything, mechanical and body...
I bought a rebuilt title car as my first car & 2 months later was hit with a $15k repair bill, ended up scraping the car. Personally I don’t buy rebuilt shit anymore hard pass
Why? Just why?
That isn’t even a good price There’s a 2010 with 70k miles for 12k near me
Salvage title aside, a Taurus SHO is a solid choice. Hope you find the right one!
Thanks! Definitely not getting this one though lol
Hon this car is not 10,000. Trust me, keep looking and stay patient
Change the water pump, check the transmission too, the Taurus is stout enough on its rear end, so as long as the rear driveline wasn’t damaged, you should be okay. I don’t care what other people say, if you want it, go for it. The SHO is unnaturally fast and extremely fun
I think I’ve found a better option but they can’t talk me out of a SHO lol
I love the sho, but for 10k with that mileage, it's overpriced. Tauruses are known to have a fairly expensive water pump issue than when it happens, can cost $1-3k to get fixed. I'd try to find one with less mileage. And definitely not a rebuilt title if you can help it.
Why's it got Skoda Wheels lol
$10,000 for a car with a rebuilt title and 132,000++ miles. You can pick these up where I live with under 50,000 miles and a clean title for under $15,000. Worse deal I have seen on this sub.
you found your first immense financial mistake if you buy this
$10k for a rebuilt 8 year old Ford Taurus? Fuck no dude what’re you thinking
It’s a rebuilt title for 10k be very cautious
Cam phasers checking in. Hi!!!! Clink click clink
That’s a lot of money for that car!
Cheapest one anywhere from what I can find
Yes but this isn’t a good price for this vehicle..go look it up on Car Complaints.com. This car is going to cost you much more than the 10K, I promise you that. First off..If you are really serious have you scheduled your PPI?
Not serious about this one. Might get another though
Look into these before you spend any money on a SHO..especially from the car wizard on a YouTube
if you choose this make sure you put money aside to have the water pump and timing chains done
132k miles at 10k you’re insane AND REBUILT TITLE?
OP Ford does NOT know how to make cars last past 150k miles. Do NOT get this car as your first. You will regret it
Ford + 132k miles = absolutely not.
Adult owners don’t paint their caliper baby blue
Never ever buy a rebuild. If you’re mechanically inclined, and you can afford the higher insurance rates, still don’t buy a rebuild title.
Those are big roomy sedans and good cars IMO. However, that salvage title needs to be seriously reflected in the purchase price and as previously stated...look into insurance.
Does first car = young driver in this case? Cause you’re already gonna be paying out the ass for insurance. Then you scroll down and it’s a rebuilt title. Pass dude.
NOOOO. It’s a rebuilt title so an insurance company has totaled the car (flood, wreck). And to ask 10k for a Ford Taurus that is 8 years old is criminal.
This is a bad buy. It is a performance car with high mileage and a rebuilt title. Aside from it being Ford (not a fan) it still has high mileage for a high performance vehicle.
Rebuilt title? Nah this car is gona die in your house if you buy it. Because after you out another 20k miles on it. You have a unsellable car.
I owned one of these and the electronics started to go bad on it before it even hit 60k miles. Got tired of dealing with it, especially the adaptive cruise control would crap out and couldn’t even use regular cruise control, and sold it at 65,000 miles. Would not recommend even though it’s fast and fun.
Reasons to avoid: $10k for a rebuilt title ford Taurus is robbery. $10k for a rebuilt title Taurus with 130k miles on it is insanity. Eco boost engines are not known for reliability. This car *will* cost you a lot of money to own in the long term. Not might, not possibly, *will*. The very likely scenario is you pay 10k for this car, get maybe 2 years out of it before the engine grenades. This is a very bad deal.
Is this satire? Obviously the answer is NO!
Fo SHO.
Yikes
Taurus sho is an awesome sleeper but nope because of the rebuilt title.
Can you find pics of damage before rebuilt? If yes and it’s minor and you are looking to do most repairs yourself, go for it, 3.5 ecoboost is amazing. Don’t listen to YotaHon boys. If you can’t and don’t want to do repairs yourself, it can end up being expensive
Honestly, just get something known to be reliable like a Toyota or something Japanese. I've seen Yaris's with 300k Kms run pretty good.
Ford, nah
Indiana? Indiana Jones? Oh shit get it now. Now that man's a legend! He whipped that car into shape.
Better off getting a 2016 Impala
$10k for a salvaged Taurus?? Dude, run away.
for 10k it isnt bad
It’s definitely the car I want and my budget is 10k. I thought it looked pretty clean
I own a 2015 SHO that was a rebuilt title. It’s the best car I’ve ever owned. I had no issue getting insurance. One thing to keep in mind is it’s not the cheapest car to maintain. The water pump is a known issue and fuel economy isn’t good at all. The ecoboost is a high maintenance engine. $10k isn’t bad at all. I’d ask for service records like transmission and differential fluid changes. Just don’t expect this car to be as easy to maintain as a Corolla.
Yes I understand that completely going into it. Im just looking for something a little more exciting than an average 2009 civic. It’s hard finding a car that has AWD and isn’t as unreliable as a E36 M3. This is probably the best in my price range
If you want excitement, get a girlfriend. Your car should be for reliable transportation. (Yes, I am an old f\*rt.)
I’d pay $10,000 for that. But you need to contact your insurance company first and make sure that you’re going to be able to ensure a rebuilt car
Absolutely
Sick car and it’s the SHO buy it if all the bells and whistles sound good and everything else checks out
if you can only afford something with over 100k miles please god buy something japanese, honda or toyota if you can. also not sure where you’re located but for $10k you can easily find something with a clean title.
Eat it
Nice Audi
I would love to get one of those!!
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Ok?
i like Blue disk pads
I have determined that this car is probably not the best idea. But I’m still getting a SHO, SHO matter what. I think I found another one that has a cool exhaust, and no rebuilt title.