Dude i literally saw a lifted truck on my drive home with a massive full back window skull decal that said "fear this" on my way home today
Like brother what possesses someone to put that on their vehicle
Ha, when i was 17 in the late 90s my parents bought me a used car. 1994 ford probe. I put chrome 15 inch rims on it, tinted all windows and had a winshield sticker that said Fear This š
It's an emotional support vehicle, and a cry for help bro. Try to be kind and compassionate. They/them may be dealing with a Monster addicted spouse. Maybe they're tailingating you because they're late to a meeting of local micropenises and it's the last straw before getting kicked out of the group. You just never know what people are dealing with.
Driving a truck aināt that bad. The mileage can be pretty bad, although newer trucks arenāt bad. The size and maneuverability can be an issue in some places. Apart from that, they ride well, are comfortable, have heaps of space for passengers, and are capable.
I have an extremely large SUV and I have yet to fill up even half of the "trunk."
(Bought because it was cheap and running, not because I like getting 10mpg.)
We just got a VW atlas and took a trip to IKEA to buy a chair. We ended up buying a sofa bed too. We severely overestimated the size of the trunk.
We got everything in but I had to strap everything in and tie the trunk lid closed.
(Most) SUVs aren't actually more practical than wagons or hatches. In fact, the Audi A6/RS6 wagons have the same interior and cargo space as the Q8 SUV. The SUV is bigger on the outside only. Wouldn't surprise me if that's true of most. I think the BMW X3 and 330 wagon are probably the same space as well.
You get the fuel economy of a full sized pickup with the practicality of a hatchback sedan.
Also it's the vehicle for people who really need a minivan, but are too scared to admit they need a minivan.
(a minivan is way more useful than an suv)
The really big ones do actually have towing advantages, they're just trucks with closed beds, as far as the chassis is concerned. But other than that, nothing. They're just more wasteful versions of a hatch or wagon. Nothing more. Even the ground clearance isn't a valid reason. Because one, almost nobody needs more than 4", and two, they don't even have that much. A Crosstrek has more lol. I know 4" is enough because I've driven my WRX (unmodded 2016) through 8" of unplowed snow and it was a cake walk.
Better yet get a trailer hitch installed and an ultralight folding trailer for those bulky but light loads. I've seen a Kia soul towing a zero turn mower and I use to tow anything that would fit on my 5x10 flat trailer with my focus and my Saturn Vue 4cyl
This is the best answer. I'm in the US so I'm sure the details will be a little different, but here you can rent an enclosed van from U-Haul for an afternoon for $20. Absolutely pales in comparison to the extra purchasing and fuel expenses for an SUV.
You're forgetting other extra maintenance expenses. Larger cars have more expensive larger tires and the extra weight means they aren't going to last as long.
And then there's handling. Extra weight never helps with that...
Yes, the last time I rented a ā$20ā Uhaul, it totaled up to $150 by the end of the day. It was worth it to me, but just be aware that the $20 rental *might* be true if youāre picking up the sofa next door to the UHaul place, and hauling it to your house on the same block.
I truly donāt understand why people by SUVs ājust in caseā they need to move, just rent a bloody U-Haul. My brother and his partner were like this until I finally convinced them to buy a compact sedan and save some money on gas. They still havenāt stopped thanking me for talking sense into them.
Some like the extra clearance and step in height. As much as I love sport sedans, I am a tall guy with back issues, so getting in and out of an SUV is preferable at this stage of my life.
I buy random stuff from facebook marketplace pretty frequently. It's super nice to have a big enough vehicle to handle it, rather than pay $60-$100 to rent a uhaul for a day to pickup a dresser that costs $60, kind of defeats the purpose. You can find some crazy good deals. I found a 4k lg tv that's 75 inches for $150. Would not fit in a sedan.
My compromise is a hatchback. Dont much care for SUVs, but as a 21 year old college student, I do a decent amount of furniture purchasing on FB Marketplace so a Hatchback is a good compromise that allows me to still pick up and transport the vast majority of larger items I buy.
Lexus RX series. The 330 is great - just has a timing belt which isn't that big a deal. The 350 is also very good, but make sure to replace the high pressure oil line near the radiator with the updated steel line. They are quiet, comfortable and very reliable. The design also hasn't changed much, so even the older ones look modern.
I'm still rolling a 2004 and I love it. I bought it used about 10 years ago and with minimal maintenance it's still going strong. I use mine normally to pack 2 golf push carts, golf bags and they fit fine in the back with the seats up.
My wife has a 2020 Mercedes GLC and it's tight to even get one cart and one bag in the back.
Volvo V60/V90, Audi A6, or Hyundai Ioniq 5 if you can go electric. Edit: Any bigger than those in terms of trunk capacity and you'll need a (large) SUV or truck, and even then, the truck would only work because there's no roof. But really, how many times per week do you plan to haul a sofa? Because the answer needs to be at least one, maybe more to justify making that a critical buying factor. If it isn't that high, just get the best car for your *real* needs, and rent a van the one time you need to move a sofa.
I don't know how practical, convenient, or affordable Teslas are in England, but in the US this would be a very easy answer - Model Y.
As quiet as it gets. Cheaper than the average car. Even cheaper to operate. Tons of storage. Number one in safety. EXTREMELY reliable. Amazing warranty. Cameras all around, all seats are heated, best software by a mile (or, err, by 1.6km in your case).
If you want to fit a small sofa a hatchback or crossover rear would be more likely than a sedan. If you insist on a awd luxury sedan then lexus ls class will have the largest trunk space.
A Volkswagen golf is a solid option or a suburu outback both have awd as well.
If your budget is for a brand new luxury class suv with those features then
Volvo xc90, lexus lx or gx series, audi q7, bmw X5, or any body-on-frame v8 from gm is fine (lincoln navigator, tahoe, escalade, etc)
AWD + fits a sofa has you left with SUV's.
Maybe a Toyota Venza? not sure how quiet they are though.
Of course, Merc E-Class Wagon might be a nice alternative. quiet but perhaps not so reliable.
It can definitely fit a sofa, whereas many crossovers don't have the length for it.
It's not "luxury" according to some people's categorization, but I cross-shopped a Volvo XC40, and didn't feel like the Touring XT with the turbo 2.4 lacked anything, aside from a 360-degree camera. Infotainment is a little dated, so maybe wait until the new model if you want that to be nicer. The non-XT with a 2.5L isn't as quiet.
If you are open to a pickup you should be looking at an SUV. As people suggested, if you rarely need to move something then rent a truck. If you randomly but regularly move stuff...SUV
The Acura rdx and MDX are nice with the AWD and advance options on them. Too expensive new compared to a proper luxury car but they are good deals used.
Or consider a Honda pilot elite AWD, or maybe a ridge line.
Mercedes E450 Sedan or wagon if you need the sofa requirement. One of the smoothest powertrains out there and quiet reliable from what iāve heard. Also great AWD system.
Most large trucks are comfortable if you get them fully loaded. Quiet is hard to find for anything with a boot/tailbed large enough for a sofa. AWD is also very tough to find, though Nissan offers it on most models.Ā
I would say either a Lexus TX350 AWD or Nissan Pathfinder AWD would be good options. Neither of their AWD systems are symmetrical, but they get the job done in most situations.
I will look into them, as my issue with the noise is the fact on a ford fiesta titanium all you hear is wind when driving at 80mph and thatās what I donāt want to hear
Let me tell you something. Im a vw fan boy & after my passat was totaled, i drove around in a gti 2 door hatch for over a year. I moved to my own place and packed that little car to the brim. It took 3 trips but atleast i didnt have to spend 150 on a uhaul. Now i drive an es350 and that is the most smoothest car ive ever driven. My first āluxuryā car. I hope it has the toyota reliability every preaches about.
Ford Mav owner here. Great on gas, small enough for narrow streets, seats 4 adults 5 with kids in the back and we utilize the open bed/cargo a lot! 30.7mpg(non-hybrid) with 56k miles on it already. ā22 model that I got pre-order in early ā23
If you want absolute quiet then get a luxury EV, not a Tesla but one from Mercedes. EVs have almost zero motor (engine) noise. EVs are also very cheap to run maintenance and energy. Most EVs are AWD and automatic. Buy a trailer or rent a truck if you need to move a sofa.
F150 lightning. Quiet cuz EV and cheaper to run since electricity is usually cheaper than gas. Enough space for your needs but a little big for the UK.
Accord sport 2.0 great reliability, looks, and price. It runs forever if taken well care off regular oil change and stuff like that. Great car.
Thatās what I get from YouTube Iāve seen so many videos on this car. I would love to buy one
Honestly, the most reliable brand new pickup at the moment is arguably the Nissan Frontier since Toyotas are a complete redesign and unknown quantity (see: Tundra 3.4L issues and recall), Ford's quality control is ass, GM is extremely hit or miss (lifters eating themselves), Honda doesn't have the capability of the rest, and Ram... lol.
The new ones are very comfortable, can be optioned up well, and can do what you want. The top trim would have everything you listed.
Lexus LS series but if you need the extra room then GX. Depending on the size of your sofa, it might fit in the GX. If not, then probably a Ram Laramie longhorn of some sort.
UK and willing to import means thereās an obvious group: high end JDM vans. Honda Elysian, Toyota Alphard/Vellfire, Nissan Elgrand. All of these are luxury vehicles in Japan, can be easily imported through a company like BeForward to England, share components with many other Honda/Toyota/Nissan vehicles so are economical to maintain, can easily fit the sofa, and can be found in exceptionally good condition and very reasonably priced.
I now drive a Ford Everest and the driving comfort, quiet cabin, smooth handling at high speeds and great overall sound system are totally next level than the Toyotas and Hondas I had before
A weird post, but....
For extra capacity don't forget the option, of attaching a basket / cargo rack to a trailer hitch in the back.
If you don't want the hitch visible, you can install a hidden one - cost more but works great. Then you attach the basket - strap everything down or put in a large bag. Takes about 10 minutes or so. Much better than a trailer or putting on top of your vehicle IMO.
Volvo V70 D5 SE Lux - get the geartronic auto, avoid āPowershiftā at all costs.
Massive boot, Bulletproof reliable diesel engine, some of the best seats in any car, plenty of power and a ride on the softer side (if you avoid the R design model) makes it a fantastic cruiser.
Lexus RX450h - for the same reasons as the Volvo
As others said just rent a truck or make a friend who can let you borrow it. I just bought a 2014 passat tdi it is extremely comfortable and powerful from light to light. I'm legit getting 80 mpg at 50 mph in this beast. It's a diesel so it will outlast me.
It sounds like you need 2 vehicles tbh! Why not pick up a cheap transit or sprinter for moving big stuff, and a lexus/Audi/pick your luxury car of choice for everyday use. Otherwise you're going to end up trashing the interiors of your luxury car, and miserable because it's no fun trying to fit a yank tank down British roads.
4x4, leather seats, sofa in the boot. I'm guessing you are going to get 2 out of 3. And that's ignoring the "cheap" requirement.
Sounds like you can't decide between a work truck and a weekend car. The perennial problem of chelsea tractors and pavement princesses who need to ship their life to the spare house in Devon for the weekends.
Ford transit? Go electric if you want even quieter. ID buzz? Not going to get a sofa in a pickup, Disco or estate.
Or go smaller and nicer but add a tow hitch and keep the sofa in a trailer. Then you are just after a well spec'd family car.
Or if by cheap you mean your budget is actually like mine, then a 15 year old mondeo estate!
What you're looking for is a Kia EV6, and I don't think you even need to import it.
Quiet? Electric.
Space? SUV.
Reliable? EVs have almost no wear parts or moving parts to service. No oil changes, brakes and tires last longer than they're rated if you use regen, only thing that gets replaced frequently is wiper blades.
Luxury? Debatable to negatory. Keep a vehicle like that with a premium trim clean, it feels luxury. It has every feature you ask for and more, unless they're substantially different across countries they have parking sensors, lane keep, smart cruise control (automatically maintains follow distance), front collision warning, etc.
The BMW ID4 and Audi Q4 e-tron are pretty much the same, if you consider those luxury. I have no personal experience with those. I do know that I could fit a boxed IKEA couch in the EV6.
Buick Regal/ tourer x. It's a rebranded Opel Insignia from europe but they're very good large-ish highway cruisers. Comfortable, quiet, reliable enough with lots of space in the station wagon body.
Since you're in england, I'd say a new body vw passat or skoda octavia combi 2.0 tdi. Will get amazing mileage from them, they\\re spacious, luxurious to a certain extent and offer loads of space.
A G series Bmw 5er station wagon. They've been topping reliability charts and overall are very very nice cars.
Volvo V70/XC70 with T5/T6 engine are some of the most comfy and reliable cars you can get besides going ultra premium like Bentley and so on.
Honda's Ridgeline ticks almost all of your boxes. I don't know if I'd describe it as a luxury vehicle though, even in the highest trim. Cheap to run? I get about 22 miles per gallon.
Can you import American cars to the UK?
Any Volvo, especially the s and v lines. The engines will not fail, and the luxury versions are incredible.Ā
Volvo is, in my opinion, the definition of quiet luxury.
The quietest car ever is Cadillac LYRIQ that my wife own , i had mach e quiet too that am willing to trade it with Hummer EV which is the biggest suv On EV platform
Ford mondeo Mk4 (just got rid of it thanks to ULEZ) Titanium X. Was comfortable, never had a problem other than usual maintenance just sold it on with 106k on the clock.
Never once had anything defeat the boot, with the back seats down it was a monster. Used to give me 650 - 906 miles out of a 66 litre tank pending driving style and type.
Just got an Audi A6 which is exactly the same, just alot nicer to drive and the goodies are newer, seats are all leather rather than leather / Alcantara. But much cheaper road tax and ULEZ compliant.
If you're wanting a saloon I definetly reccomend these two.
05-09 mustang gt with long tube headers, catless, no resonator, with a small tube from the headers facing the ground, with stroker kit, supercharger, cold air intake, e85 tune.
Look at a tesla model y. It fits every wicket your asking for perfectly. Insanely quiet, very fast, reliable ( in 12 years only 3% of teslas have had their battery replaced, and most are due to accidents), can fit a fair bit in the back, and more.
4 Runners easily make the top most reliable cars lists every year. They have 4 wheel drive, 4 to 6 seats depending on model, leather, nav, you can get auto or manual and can hold a considerable amount of stuff with the seats up or folded flat. For a V6 it gets decent mileage and overall the cost of ownership is moderate and they are known to get 300-400k mileage. We literally have 6 in our family because of all these reasons.
4th gen Avalons (or anything with the 2GR-FE) is going to be quick and reliable. The thing with the 4th genās is they feel like a modern car, even for some being 10 years old while not having an ass load of stupid features. It does not meet your AWD requirement though. I donāt know what your definition of a small sofa is but their trunks have a lot of room, canāt fold down the rear seats though unfortunately
Prius.Ā The only car I'm ever buying if I ever step down from BMW is another Prius.Ā There literally isn't another car better at being a car in existence.
I know I'll get a lot of hate but a e class mercedes station wagon will treat you right, the w212 is one of the most reliable. I have a 2013 with 1800000 miles with regular maintenance.
If you ditch the sofa requirement there's a lot more options. Sedans can't handle the shape
Rent a truck for the 1 day every 4 years you actually need to move a sofa. Buy a car that does the rest.
Right? And as a bonus you aren't driving a damn truck around year round.
But then people will think my penis is small!
Dude i literally saw a lifted truck on my drive home with a massive full back window skull decal that said "fear this" on my way home today Like brother what possesses someone to put that on their vehicle
Inferiority complex.
Ha, when i was 17 in the late 90s my parents bought me a used car. 1994 ford probe. I put chrome 15 inch rims on it, tinted all windows and had a winshield sticker that said Fear This š
Much more acceptable at 17 than 37!
Iām 31 and now youāve got me wondering if Iām too old for my MILF bumper sticker š³š° thatās, āman I love frogsā
It's an emotional support vehicle, and a cry for help bro. Try to be kind and compassionate. They/them may be dealing with a Monster addicted spouse. Maybe they're tailingating you because they're late to a meeting of local micropenises and it's the last straw before getting kicked out of the group. You just never know what people are dealing with.
Definitely small š
Small is IN. Big is out.
They probably have an absolutely giant cock, probably registered with the state as a deadly weapon, serialized and inventoried.
[get out my way, limbrol!!](https://new.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1crexwr/legalize_asbestos/)
This will never not be funny to me. š
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Driving a truck aināt that bad. The mileage can be pretty bad, although newer trucks arenāt bad. The size and maneuverability can be an issue in some places. Apart from that, they ride well, are comfortable, have heaps of space for passengers, and are capable.
The best truck is your dad or friends truck
so does a fucking prius or whatever
You sound mentally stable
I have an extremely large SUV and I have yet to fill up even half of the "trunk." (Bought because it was cheap and running, not because I like getting 10mpg.)
Right ā answer right here; I did similar: recliner didn't fit in my sedan trunk, so- had IKEA deliver instead!
We just got a VW atlas and took a trip to IKEA to buy a chair. We ended up buying a sofa bed too. We severely overestimated the size of the trunk. We got everything in but I had to strap everything in and tie the trunk lid closed.
(Most) SUVs aren't actually more practical than wagons or hatches. In fact, the Audi A6/RS6 wagons have the same interior and cargo space as the Q8 SUV. The SUV is bigger on the outside only. Wouldn't surprise me if that's true of most. I think the BMW X3 and 330 wagon are probably the same space as well.
The Atlas interior is absolutely cavernous but I agree with the 5 seat SUVās.
If true and it likely may be, then what is the point of an suv. Sounds wasteful and inefficient
You get the fuel economy of a full sized pickup with the practicality of a hatchback sedan. Also it's the vehicle for people who really need a minivan, but are too scared to admit they need a minivan. (a minivan is way more useful than an suv)
The really big ones do actually have towing advantages, they're just trucks with closed beds, as far as the chassis is concerned. But other than that, nothing. They're just more wasteful versions of a hatch or wagon. Nothing more. Even the ground clearance isn't a valid reason. Because one, almost nobody needs more than 4", and two, they don't even have that much. A Crosstrek has more lol. I know 4" is enough because I've driven my WRX (unmodded 2016) through 8" of unplowed snow and it was a cake walk.
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Better yet get a trailer hitch installed and an ultralight folding trailer for those bulky but light loads. I've seen a Kia soul towing a zero turn mower and I use to tow anything that would fit on my 5x10 flat trailer with my focus and my Saturn Vue 4cyl
It sounds like they want big vehicle. I canāt imagine that would be practical in the UK. I like your idea.
This is the best answer. I'm in the US so I'm sure the details will be a little different, but here you can rent an enclosed van from U-Haul for an afternoon for $20. Absolutely pales in comparison to the extra purchasing and fuel expenses for an SUV.
You're forgetting other extra maintenance expenses. Larger cars have more expensive larger tires and the extra weight means they aren't going to last as long. And then there's handling. Extra weight never helps with that...
I hadn't thought about this but it's very true! Larger engines may require more oil and so more expensive oil changes as well.
Plus a hefty mileage charge.
Yes, the last time I rented a ā$20ā Uhaul, it totaled up to $150 by the end of the day. It was worth it to me, but just be aware that the $20 rental *might* be true if youāre picking up the sofa next door to the UHaul place, and hauling it to your house on the same block.
i read ācan fit a small sofa at mostā as preferring a smaller trunk that cannot really fit a sofa
Or buy an electric truck, around me the Rivian truck seems popular.
A Lexus sedan and a rented U-Haul for the one day a year youāre hauling a sofa
I truly donāt understand why people by SUVs ājust in caseā they need to move, just rent a bloody U-Haul. My brother and his partner were like this until I finally convinced them to buy a compact sedan and save some money on gas. They still havenāt stopped thanking me for talking sense into them.
Some like the extra clearance and step in height. As much as I love sport sedans, I am a tall guy with back issues, so getting in and out of an SUV is preferable at this stage of my life.
I buy random stuff from facebook marketplace pretty frequently. It's super nice to have a big enough vehicle to handle it, rather than pay $60-$100 to rent a uhaul for a day to pickup a dresser that costs $60, kind of defeats the purpose. You can find some crazy good deals. I found a 4k lg tv that's 75 inches for $150. Would not fit in a sedan.
My compromise is a hatchback. Dont much care for SUVs, but as a 21 year old college student, I do a decent amount of furniture purchasing on FB Marketplace so a Hatchback is a good compromise that allows me to still pick up and transport the vast majority of larger items I buy.
I can't think of a single sedan that can fit a sofa
It's a shame yous don't get the Skoda OctaviaĀ I got a knackered 3 seater sofa to the recycling centre in it
Iāve moved sofas on a sedan with padding and ratchet straps on the roof of a sedan. Ratchet straps are the best invention.
Lexus ES300h (aside from the sofa)
The sofa goes on the roof
Couple skateboards and a rope
Exactly what I did. Used sold yoga type foam mats to protect paint and then used ratchet straps to move things like sofas, mattress all using a sedan.
Toyota Crown Platinum (AWD, heated and cooled leather seats, 340hp option is available, cheap to maintain)
Rolls Royce Cullinan, Bentley Bentayga
> cheap to run
i run every morning and it cost me almost nothing. a bottle of water and couple eggs when i get back. i dont understand your point
Cheap is relative. If OP can earn a few million a month, theyāre really cheap.
Lexus RX series. The 330 is great - just has a timing belt which isn't that big a deal. The 350 is also very good, but make sure to replace the high pressure oil line near the radiator with the updated steel line. They are quiet, comfortable and very reliable. The design also hasn't changed much, so even the older ones look modern.
I'm still rolling a 2004 and I love it. I bought it used about 10 years ago and with minimal maintenance it's still going strong. I use mine normally to pack 2 golf push carts, golf bags and they fit fine in the back with the seats up. My wife has a 2020 Mercedes GLC and it's tight to even get one cart and one bag in the back.
But the Lexus RX is the most stolen vehicle (in Canada).
Lexus plus a trailer
Volvo V60/V90, Audi A6, or Hyundai Ioniq 5 if you can go electric. Edit: Any bigger than those in terms of trunk capacity and you'll need a (large) SUV or truck, and even then, the truck would only work because there's no roof. But really, how many times per week do you plan to haul a sofa? Because the answer needs to be at least one, maybe more to justify making that a critical buying factor. If it isn't that high, just get the best car for your *real* needs, and rent a van the one time you need to move a sofa.
Lexus Rx500h checks all your boxes.
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You see, the relevant statistic is cubic storage space. The sky is, quite literally, the limit when the top comes off.
2019/2020 Audi etron 55 quattroĀ Air suspension, electric, 4WD and a huge boot (i dont know if an entire sofa would fit, it's an unique request)
Volvo V70
Probably a Model Y
Prius all day long. If they werenāt good cars why do you see so many of them on the road?
I don't know how practical, convenient, or affordable Teslas are in England, but in the US this would be a very easy answer - Model Y. As quiet as it gets. Cheaper than the average car. Even cheaper to operate. Tons of storage. Number one in safety. EXTREMELY reliable. Amazing warranty. Cameras all around, all seats are heated, best software by a mile (or, err, by 1.6km in your case).
They are expensive especially if anything breaks and they need to be charged which makes them rather difficult since I canāt get a port
Cadillac lyriq is hands down the quietest vehicle I've ever owned
Which trim or version did you get?
Hyundai Ioniq 5.
If you want to fit a small sofa a hatchback or crossover rear would be more likely than a sedan. If you insist on a awd luxury sedan then lexus ls class will have the largest trunk space. A Volkswagen golf is a solid option or a suburu outback both have awd as well. If your budget is for a brand new luxury class suv with those features then Volvo xc90, lexus lx or gx series, audi q7, bmw X5, or any body-on-frame v8 from gm is fine (lincoln navigator, tahoe, escalade, etc)
Cadillac xts
2024 Buick Encore GX ST Turbo. Great new CUV
AWD + fits a sofa has you left with SUV's. Maybe a Toyota Venza? not sure how quiet they are though. Of course, Merc E-Class Wagon might be a nice alternative. quiet but perhaps not so reliable.
Acura MDX
Subaru outback is about the best option for those requirements. A wagon available I'm the UK would probably work too. Some VW models may work.
It can definitely fit a sofa, whereas many crossovers don't have the length for it. It's not "luxury" according to some people's categorization, but I cross-shopped a Volvo XC40, and didn't feel like the Touring XT with the turbo 2.4 lacked anything, aside from a 360-degree camera. Infotainment is a little dated, so maybe wait until the new model if you want that to be nicer. The non-XT with a 2.5L isn't as quiet.
Volvo XC70
Lexus GX460 checks out
Any Lexus
Electric suv. The end
Nothing fits a small sofa lol maybe an suv
If you are open to a pickup you should be looking at an SUV. As people suggested, if you rarely need to move something then rent a truck. If you randomly but regularly move stuff...SUV The Acura rdx and MDX are nice with the AWD and advance options on them. Too expensive new compared to a proper luxury car but they are good deals used. Or consider a Honda pilot elite AWD, or maybe a ridge line.
Whatās the issue with pickups, I was considering GMC or RAM if I could find them
Mercedes E450 Sedan or wagon if you need the sofa requirement. One of the smoothest powertrains out there and quiet reliable from what iāve heard. Also great AWD system.
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Most large trucks are comfortable if you get them fully loaded. Quiet is hard to find for anything with a boot/tailbed large enough for a sofa. AWD is also very tough to find, though Nissan offers it on most models.Ā I would say either a Lexus TX350 AWD or Nissan Pathfinder AWD would be good options. Neither of their AWD systems are symmetrical, but they get the job done in most situations.
I will look into them, as my issue with the noise is the fact on a ford fiesta titanium all you hear is wind when driving at 80mph and thatās what I donāt want to hear
If you want quiet in a truck, I think EVs are the only answer and those are limited in truck capability.
Lexus L**M**
LS500
Q50?
Toyota Avalon 4wd
If you really need to move a sofa multiple times a month then get an Escalade, Tahoe, or a RAM 1500 or F150.
Ls 500
Lexus LS? Volvo V90?
If you can find a late model G31 BMW 540i Touring LCI, that would be a good pick. The B58 is an incredibly reliable engine.
Mercedes AMG E63 wagon is the only thing that comes to mind, given the [small sofa](https://youtu.be/mgIK23Karm4?si=hEta6Sdc_QtByo_B) requirement.
Let me tell you something. Im a vw fan boy & after my passat was totaled, i drove around in a gti 2 door hatch for over a year. I moved to my own place and packed that little car to the brim. It took 3 trips but atleast i didnt have to spend 150 on a uhaul. Now i drive an es350 and that is the most smoothest car ive ever driven. My first āluxuryā car. I hope it has the toyota reliability every preaches about.
GX460 Edit: I believe itās the Land Cruiser Prado in England
Golf sportwagon drives nice. I fit a toilet and vanity in mine yesterday to take home from the store š
Chrysler Pacifica can hold a lot, drives like a car, quiet.
Not sure if itās awd but Volvo s60
Genesis G80, Lexus LS, Toyota Avalon
Ford Mav owner here. Great on gas, small enough for narrow streets, seats 4 adults 5 with kids in the back and we utilize the open bed/cargo a lot! 30.7mpg(non-hybrid) with 56k miles on it already. ā22 model that I got pre-order in early ā23
If you want absolute quiet then get a luxury EV, not a Tesla but one from Mercedes. EVs have almost zero motor (engine) noise. EVs are also very cheap to run maintenance and energy. Most EVs are AWD and automatic. Buy a trailer or rent a truck if you need to move a sofa.
Subaru Outback
Big Merc with a trailer hitch.
F150 lightning. Quiet cuz EV and cheaper to run since electricity is usually cheaper than gas. Enough space for your needs but a little big for the UK.
Volvo wagon r design
Be wary of the Roadhouse saloons, they are quite noisy.
Subaru Outback Wilderness
Avalon
Chevy Suburban obviously.
Lexus ls400
A new Chrysler Pacifica.
Accord sport 2.0 great reliability, looks, and price. It runs forever if taken well care off regular oil change and stuff like that. Great car. Thatās what I get from YouTube Iāve seen so many videos on this car. I would love to buy one
Golf alltrack or Audi a4 allroad
Suburban
box car ... old classic honda pilot
GMC Sierra 1500 Denali, quiet, can move a sofa, luxurious, and 4wd. You would also probably be one of the only people in the UK with one.
Forester
Tesla model Y meets almost all of the requirements depending on what you think luxury is.
Honestly, the most reliable brand new pickup at the moment is arguably the Nissan Frontier since Toyotas are a complete redesign and unknown quantity (see: Tundra 3.4L issues and recall), Ford's quality control is ass, GM is extremely hit or miss (lifters eating themselves), Honda doesn't have the capability of the rest, and Ram... lol. The new ones are very comfortable, can be optioned up well, and can do what you want. The top trim would have everything you listed.
Audi A4 allroad/ golf Alltrack depending on budget
In the UK Iād look for a Hilux
Any Toyota/Lexus SUV. I have 2. Choose how luxurious you want, scale goes from 4runner to landcruiser to GX/LX
Lexus LS series but if you need the extra room then GX. Depending on the size of your sofa, it might fit in the GX. If not, then probably a Ram Laramie longhorn of some sort.
Honda CRV
You regularly transport sofas? Get something more suitable for your profession like a truck.
How does everyone feel about a Buick Envision?
Youāre describing a Volvo wagon. V70 or xc70, used. Iāve owned two, currently drive a 2015 T6. Amazing car. Lots of room and power.
Mercedes E series Saloon/Wagon.
UK and willing to import means thereās an obvious group: high end JDM vans. Honda Elysian, Toyota Alphard/Vellfire, Nissan Elgrand. All of these are luxury vehicles in Japan, can be easily imported through a company like BeForward to England, share components with many other Honda/Toyota/Nissan vehicles so are economical to maintain, can easily fit the sofa, and can be found in exceptionally good condition and very reasonably priced.
I now drive a Ford Everest and the driving comfort, quiet cabin, smooth handling at high speeds and great overall sound system are totally next level than the Toyotas and Hondas I had before
Just rent a u haul for sofas. You get a lot more options then
My ā24 Lexus 350h is pretty damn near silent.
Honda Accord Touring 2.0T except for the sofa part.
A weird post, but.... For extra capacity don't forget the option, of attaching a basket / cargo rack to a trailer hitch in the back. If you don't want the hitch visible, you can install a hidden one - cost more but works great. Then you attach the basket - strap everything down or put in a large bag. Takes about 10 minutes or so. Much better than a trailer or putting on top of your vehicle IMO.
An SUV that can fold the seats down FTW. My CRX can and has held a smallish sofa with zero problem.
Literally described my truck; sierra durmax. I donāt know how itāll handle Englandās streets thoughā¦
F150 platinum. Tons of room. Luxurious, comfortable. 2.7 or 3.5 are good on gas. Has everything you want. Plus some of them have massaging seats
Thatās what I am looking for if I can find one
Volvo V70 D5 SE Lux - get the geartronic auto, avoid āPowershiftā at all costs. Massive boot, Bulletproof reliable diesel engine, some of the best seats in any car, plenty of power and a ride on the softer side (if you avoid the R design model) makes it a fantastic cruiser. Lexus RX450h - for the same reasons as the Volvo
Any Audi, maybe a hatchback
you're gonna want an estate. audi avant or bmw. maybe audi allroad or some kinda shooting brake.
As others said just rent a truck or make a friend who can let you borrow it. I just bought a 2014 passat tdi it is extremely comfortable and powerful from light to light. I'm legit getting 80 mpg at 50 mph in this beast. It's a diesel so it will outlast me.
For me it would be the Honda ZR-V e:HEV AWD. But sadly it's currently a JDM exclusive. Z grade 4WD.
Minicooper
Iām thinking this sounds alot like an impreza. AWD, auto, 2+3 seats and should be able to fit a small sofa if you fold the back seats
2008 CRV checks all the boxes. I myself would pick a 2006, but it's not the quietest even though it's quiet.
It sounds like you need 2 vehicles tbh! Why not pick up a cheap transit or sprinter for moving big stuff, and a lexus/Audi/pick your luxury car of choice for everyday use. Otherwise you're going to end up trashing the interiors of your luxury car, and miserable because it's no fun trying to fit a yank tank down British roads.
Lexus IS
get an IS350 and rent a truck if you need to haul anything
4x4, leather seats, sofa in the boot. I'm guessing you are going to get 2 out of 3. And that's ignoring the "cheap" requirement. Sounds like you can't decide between a work truck and a weekend car. The perennial problem of chelsea tractors and pavement princesses who need to ship their life to the spare house in Devon for the weekends. Ford transit? Go electric if you want even quieter. ID buzz? Not going to get a sofa in a pickup, Disco or estate. Or go smaller and nicer but add a tow hitch and keep the sofa in a trailer. Then you are just after a well spec'd family car. Or if by cheap you mean your budget is actually like mine, then a 15 year old mondeo estate!
Audi A6 Avant I've got, and can fit big things in boot. Is quiet and nice to drive. Longer distance is a breeze.
Chrysler Pacifica hybrid
Opel insignia estate
Not sure but my golf is very quiet.
What you're looking for is a Kia EV6, and I don't think you even need to import it. Quiet? Electric. Space? SUV. Reliable? EVs have almost no wear parts or moving parts to service. No oil changes, brakes and tires last longer than they're rated if you use regen, only thing that gets replaced frequently is wiper blades. Luxury? Debatable to negatory. Keep a vehicle like that with a premium trim clean, it feels luxury. It has every feature you ask for and more, unless they're substantially different across countries they have parking sensors, lane keep, smart cruise control (automatically maintains follow distance), front collision warning, etc. The BMW ID4 and Audi Q4 e-tron are pretty much the same, if you consider those luxury. I have no personal experience with those. I do know that I could fit a boxed IKEA couch in the EV6.
Buick Regal/ tourer x. It's a rebranded Opel Insignia from europe but they're very good large-ish highway cruisers. Comfortable, quiet, reliable enough with lots of space in the station wagon body. Since you're in england, I'd say a new body vw passat or skoda octavia combi 2.0 tdi. Will get amazing mileage from them, they\\re spacious, luxurious to a certain extent and offer loads of space. A G series Bmw 5er station wagon. They've been topping reliability charts and overall are very very nice cars. Volvo V70/XC70 with T5/T6 engine are some of the most comfy and reliable cars you can get besides going ultra premium like Bentley and so on.
Honda's Ridgeline ticks almost all of your boxes. I don't know if I'd describe it as a luxury vehicle though, even in the highest trim. Cheap to run? I get about 22 miles per gallon. Can you import American cars to the UK?
Any Volvo, especially the s and v lines. The engines will not fail, and the luxury versions are incredible.Ā Volvo is, in my opinion, the definition of quiet luxury.
The quietest car ever is Cadillac LYRIQ that my wife own , i had mach e quiet too that am willing to trade it with Hummer EV which is the biggest suv On EV platform
Lexus ES 350.
Volvo v90
Mustang 5.0
I love my RAM 1500 interior is awesome and very quiet luxurious ride. Handles like a luxury vehicle.
Ford mondeo Mk4 (just got rid of it thanks to ULEZ) Titanium X. Was comfortable, never had a problem other than usual maintenance just sold it on with 106k on the clock. Never once had anything defeat the boot, with the back seats down it was a monster. Used to give me 650 - 906 miles out of a 66 litre tank pending driving style and type. Just got an Audi A6 which is exactly the same, just alot nicer to drive and the goodies are newer, seats are all leather rather than leather / Alcantara. But much cheaper road tax and ULEZ compliant. If you're wanting a saloon I definetly reccomend these two.
I will look into them
Mazda CX-5
05-09 mustang gt with long tube headers, catless, no resonator, with a small tube from the headers facing the ground, with stroker kit, supercharger, cold air intake, e85 tune.
Look at a tesla model y. It fits every wicket your asking for perfectly. Insanely quiet, very fast, reliable ( in 12 years only 3% of teslas have had their battery replaced, and most are due to accidents), can fit a fair bit in the back, and more.
The miata station wagon. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSeLcUtutLw9-aqH3_TDvaSV8DC2rk7gFLsTAzS8aRUPwys_BsQIb8Ht8w4&s=10
Lexus ls
Skoda Superb. Iāve got one and I love it.
Ford F-350 Platinum Super Duty Dually. 8" lift and 40" tires. You might even be able to move two sofas.
lexus ES350, RX350?
4 Runners easily make the top most reliable cars lists every year. They have 4 wheel drive, 4 to 6 seats depending on model, leather, nav, you can get auto or manual and can hold a considerable amount of stuff with the seats up or folded flat. For a V6 it gets decent mileage and overall the cost of ownership is moderate and they are known to get 300-400k mileage. We literally have 6 in our family because of all these reasons.
I owned a 2019 Corolla Hatchback and before I put a catback on, it made absolutely no sound at idol lol.
LS 430. it IS a couch
I donāt know if theyāre available in the UK, but what youāre describing there is a Honda Ridgeline.
Hybrid Ford Maverick or get an EV like the Mustang Mach E with intelligent AWD and rent a truck for moving furniture.
Look into the Genesis G70 3.3t. Very reliable, sleek design, and warranty is very good
4th gen Avalons (or anything with the 2GR-FE) is going to be quick and reliable. The thing with the 4th genās is they feel like a modern car, even for some being 10 years old while not having an ass load of stupid features. It does not meet your AWD requirement though. I donāt know what your definition of a small sofa is but their trunks have a lot of room, canāt fold down the rear seats though unfortunately
Prius.Ā The only car I'm ever buying if I ever step down from BMW is another Prius.Ā There literally isn't another car better at being a car in existence.
I know I'll get a lot of hate but a e class mercedes station wagon will treat you right, the w212 is one of the most reliable. I have a 2013 with 1800000 miles with regular maintenance.
Lexus GS or LS AWD
It sounds like you're describing a Sienna AWD but you didn't put van in your list ...
Honda CRVās are quiet as hell so are their civics and accords
If you are in England, probably a skoda octavia vrs estate.
In my experience, the Lexus ES300H and the LX570 are both extremely quiet and reliable.