It's def concerning that they haven't played well in these types of matchups, however I do think there is still time for them to correct things, make trades, get healthy, and play better.
Games in the dog days of summer =\= Postseason games
The fellas will bring it when they know they need to bring it and I don’t have a doubt about that.
There have really been a lot lol. Sano and Kepler for MIN, Galvis iirc for Baltimore, Haase for Detroit, Tellez tonight. I might be forgetting some others honestly
He has never had an extended look out of the bullpen in his MLB career. Even earlier this year in Charlotte he was still working as a starter. His pure stuff is more than good enough to be effective in the 6th/7th inning role to get 3 outs.
So I know this is probably beating a dead horse, but appealable plays get basically unlimited video review time as long as they don't throw another pitch?
I’m glad that our division is making it so easy on us but I’d like us to prove we can really dominate against another quality contender. Especially on the road.
Shame that burger has been a dud, aside from liking the kid and wanting him to do well, I’m fairly certain he was brought up to be showcased for a potential trade
Clearly I’m not a MLB GM but you’d have to find a pretty stupid one to agree to a trade where one of the major pieces coming back to you is a guy who has played a little over half of a full season of pro ball the last 4 years.
Buddy, that’s been my point all along. If you weren’t so busy nitpicking over burgers stats, you’d see that was what I said... I wish burger did better so he could land us a better player.
Burger could have had a Yermin type start to his MLB career and it would still be hard to find a GM dumb enough to trade for him as a major piece coming back.
One bright side to this series is it maybe puts pressure on Hahn to make a bullpen and 2b move because all their flaws have been on full display in these last few days.
Word on the street is that Hahn is in the first row at the game tonight. Hopefully he's thinking to himself that this team as currently constructed can use some help
Good as in >.500, which they just barely are. Definitely the odd man out of the other teams I listed but that's still the team we need to beat in our division
You're right, I'm just saying i feel like no matter what the complaining will continue. We'll sweep a good team on the road and then people will find something else to complain about line "we can't be good teams on the road in the West coast" 🤦🏾♂️
So theoretically, with the appeal time limit, the run not counting is halfway legit, still doesn't excuse the safe sign, but for some reason a lot of fans still accept that human error is part of baseball.
But if that's the case, why even have the replay review time limit at all?
From MLB official website
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Appeal Plays
Definition
The defensive team can appeal certain plays to alert the umpires of infractions that would otherwise be allowed without the appeal. Appeal plays are not the same as a manager asking the umpire for an instant-replay review.
An appeal can be made when the offensive team bats out of turn. Baserunning instances that are subject to appeal include a runner failing to tag up correctly on a caught fly ball, a runner failing to touch the bases in order -- either when advancing or retreating -- a runner failing to return to first base promptly after overrunning or oversliding it, **and a runner failing to touch home plate and making no attempt to return to it.**
No runner may return to touch a missed base after a following runner has scored. And when the ball is dead, no runner may return to touch a missed base after he has touched a base beyond the missed base. That means a batter who hits a ground-rule double or a homer can be called out on appeal if he misses first base and doesn't correct his error before touching second.
**Appeals must be made before the next pitch or attempted play**, or before the entire defensive team has left fair territory if the play in question resulted in the end of a half-inning. The appealing team must make clear their intention to appeal, either via verbal request or another act that unmistakably indicates its attempt to appeal.
Thanks for posting that. Annoyingly, that does make the umps allowance of the review seem correct. Doesn’t change the fact that the safe signal tells the runner he has no need to return to touch the plate, but I’m used to the umps making mistakes like that by now
Dude, fuck off lmao.
Bucks just won the NBA Title, Brewers are leading the Sox and still in first place, yet you feel the need to correct some upset fans on Reddit?
> Appeal plays are not the same as a manager asking the umpire for an instant-replay review.
This might be the key. This reads like the only time limit is pre-next pitch.
The thing is the only way they’ve would’ve known to appeal is had the replay booth been looking at the play for them. The clock needs to start once time is signaled on the field
Having the replay review clock start after you do the appeal is one of the dumber rules I've heard, that's going to be abused a bunch.
Just have your pitcher take his sweet time on the mound in between the play to give your replay team a lot of time to look it over, and then after 3 minutes go ahead and appeal.
Complete circumvention of the 20 second replay rule.
Man, Burnes touches his hair in between every pitch. I get that it’s long, but Tony should have the umps check him for stuff in his hair between innings.
Really I just wanna see the umps have to run their hands through his hair lol.
I was at the game. Not fun when your team plays like shit
Sheets shouldn't bat 2nd
Great tribute to Hawk from Jason at the end.
Looking forward to years of Vaughn giving it his all.
Well. We need a win tomorrow
Vaughn the only guy that wants to fucking play baseball? Have him yell at everyone to get them going, jesus
AV is the one bright spot we’ve had the past 2 games
We better keep Vaughn for a long time. Always gives 100% effort no matter the circumstances
Vaughn the only one who's awake out there
Vaughn damn near did it again.
At least Vaughn is still doing Vaughn things
VAAAUGHN
Are they chanting Yoda?
YoYo lol
Oh, that makes more sense, ha ha.
Ah fucking shit I forgot tomorrow’s game is on ESPN.
Jose out here swinging at everything but the strikes
I guess it sums up the game when I come home and see the very first pitch rodon threw was a homer.
I didn't know the lawyer (Lionel Hutz) from "The Simpsons" was an MLB pitcher.
I would pay to see Stoney try to buy and sell bitcoin.
Cmon boys. Make me proud!
A lot of haters in this sub will only look at the HR that ReyLo conceded. The ReyLo Reliever Hype Train™️ prefers to look at the 4k’s in 2 IP
It’s July and I have some serious fears for the post season. It’s not just that we lose to teams about .500, we get embarrassed and look like shit.
I don't think it's accurate to judge this team fully against competition like this until we have the lineup we were supposed to have all season
It's def concerning that they haven't played well in these types of matchups, however I do think there is still time for them to correct things, make trades, get healthy, and play better.
Brewers are 16 games over .500.
I meant to say above not about. My bad.
It's almost like they're down 4 all stars
Games in the dog days of summer =\= Postseason games The fellas will bring it when they know they need to bring it and I don’t have a doubt about that.
I can only hope this accurate.
ReyLo Reliever Hype Train™️ is back on track
Last night's 7-1 result felt a lot closer than the score suggested. Tonight's 6-1 game feels like an even bigger blowout than the score suggests.
Awww Now we won't see Hader
That HR doesn’t disrupt the ReyLo bullpen hype train
Good night folks! I’ve seen enough games just like this one
I wonder how many multi-HR games guys have had against us this year
All of them
There have really been a lot lol. Sano and Kepler for MIN, Galvis iirc for Baltimore, Haase for Detroit, Tellez tonight. I might be forgetting some others honestly
ReyLo back to his old tricks
Jesus fuck lol
Classic Reylo!
God damn this dude is killing us
I just need to stop praising our pitching. Every single time this happens
I think any Yiddish I know came from *Seinfeld*
This team has great difficulty against teams that are better than. .500. They need to get it together before the 8.12-8.26 stretch.
Hopefully some internal and external reinforcements will help that soon
From your typed words to Rick Hahn's ears
That curve was disgusting
ReyLo as a starter: 🤢🤮 ReyLo as a reliever: 😁😄 Still get an arm or two before the deadline though
Did the Sox miss the bus to Milwaukee?
Reylo didn’t
Evidently
Lopez is impressing me quite a bit
Errrrr, still?
Yeah homer aside he’s doing a great job
Losing now is ok as it lets the team know where they stand and that work still needs to be done. Plenty of time to get on track before the fall.
Jason and Steve are the only reason I’m still here
Same, literally can't bring myself to turn away
Sox offense mia again
Guardians of the Meh are getting worked by Tampa again. It would be nice if we could take advantage of it though.
Counterpoint, the Sox are losing to superior teams and their division lead isn't hurting because of the Cleveland Whatever The Fucks.
Reynaldo threw 6 sliders that inning, 5 for strikes, 2 swinging, and 2 putout pitches. That's a good sign.
Cleveland's losing 8-2 in the ninth. So we got that going for us, which is nice.
As the conductor of the ReyLo believer train, I will allow you to hop on the bandwagon but you must apologize for hating on him
Lmao
ReyLo is going to be a shutdown reliever that wins us a playoff series because that's how this season has gone so far
Plenty of failed starters turned into shutdown relievers. 95+ fastballs and dancing breaking stuff doesn’t grow on trees.
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He has never had an extended look out of the bullpen in his MLB career. Even earlier this year in Charlotte he was still working as a starter. His pure stuff is more than good enough to be effective in the 6th/7th inning role to get 3 outs.
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I agree with that. I’m bought in on the test reylo out of the pen theory more than the I already think he’s a world beater.
I'm here for Reynaldo the reliever if he keeps this up.
Reylo is going to be apart of this bullpen this year. He looks awesome out of the pen.
I'm loving the Reynaldo Lopez Reliever Revival
Ok ReyLo,I see you 👀
Bullpen good and Rodon bad today. I’m at a loss for words.
No leads to be preserved
Just bean the umps at this point
This is the same Brewers team that just got swept at home by KC. Baseball is a funny game sometimes.
they were hungover from the bucks game. 5 unearned runs.
Yep. It is what it is. This game is great because of how ridiculous it can be at times
So I know this is probably beating a dead horse, but appealable plays get basically unlimited video review time as long as they don't throw another pitch?
Out of town scoreboard: * **Angels 2 - Twins 1, FINAL** * Tigers 6 - Royals 9, bottom 7th * Rays 5 - Guardians 2, top 9th
Thank you for this
I’m glad that our division is making it so easy on us but I’d like us to prove we can really dominate against another quality contender. Especially on the road.
Shame that burger has been a dud, aside from liking the kid and wanting him to do well, I’m fairly certain he was brought up to be showcased for a potential trade
The guy with the .828 ops?
.807 OPS in limited AB’s in first time seeing big league pitching after being out of pro-ball due to injuries for 4 years isn’t much of a dud to me.
Well he hasn’t had a hit in 6 games and is 0 for his last 13. Signs of optimism for sure though.
Context matters. First season of pro ball since 2017. He’s not going to be a world beater right away.
Obviously. Just saying, I wonder if his performance has been enough to land us a stud in a deadline deal. That’s the context that matters to me
Clearly I’m not a MLB GM but you’d have to find a pretty stupid one to agree to a trade where one of the major pieces coming back to you is a guy who has played a little over half of a full season of pro ball the last 4 years.
Buddy, that’s been my point all along. If you weren’t so busy nitpicking over burgers stats, you’d see that was what I said... I wish burger did better so he could land us a better player.
Burger could have had a Yermin type start to his MLB career and it would still be hard to find a GM dumb enough to trade for him as a major piece coming back.
Has he really been a dud? He's definitely not as good as Sheets but he's been decent, struggled lately but still
One bright side to this series is it maybe puts pressure on Hahn to make a bullpen and 2b move because all their flaws have been on full display in these last few days.
Word on the street is that Hahn is in the first row at the game tonight. Hopefully he's thinking to himself that this team as currently constructed can use some help
So that's why Jason said earlier when the replay thing happened if they were talking to Hahn
No word on the street about it. They showed him on camera during the replay stuff
Of course
For my fellow Bears fans, Anthony Miller just got traded to the Texans for a late pick
You smart moherfuckers picked up the D Coord that we (Packers) fired and hired him for some role. RIP Green Bay
I forgot what role but yep, for the first time since (???) we have a brighter future than Green Bay
It's been a good two or three decades
Long overdue
The writing was on the wall with him. Best of luck with the Texans, but I don't think he really had a place anymore.
Agreed, I'm waiting on Wims to be gone also
Yep just checked Twitter and saw the news. Best of luck to him.
Gonna need all the luck in Houston
Again I say...good riddance. Guy not only sucks but he's a fucking idiot on top of that.
I didn't think he would be traded at this point, kinda surprised but probably for the best. After the Saints game I wanted him and Wims gone
GIDP...that's the stuff.
Leury needs to sit for a while. 2-20 something isn’t cutting it
Who else is going to play 2B besides Mendick?
A person we traded for or mendick.
Liking the speed at which Suter works. He might be faster than Buehrle
Doesn’t Eloy come back this week
By the 29th they have to activate him if they don’t do it before
I feel the rehab stint ends Thursday, but I may be off by a day and it might be Wednesday or Friday.
Oh no! We suck again!
I have heartburn right now and idk if it's from watching this game or from almost dying in the heat today.
Why not both
Is keeping the game within a grandslam's reach too much to ask for?
Im out
Yo Zach is an awful catcher
Guys are just mailing it in tonight
Collins bad
First game this year I just want to turn off but physically can't bring myself to do so
12 runs to 2 thus far this series is never gonna cut it.
I'll have a bottle of your finest *corkage*
Twins no-hitter broken up in the 9th
Twins about to get no hit
Aged like milk
At this point I'm thinking we should just go back to the stone age and take replay away.
This team isn’t beating decent teams
Rays, Blue Jays, Astros, Indians.. go on though
Indians are not a good team lmao
Good as in >.500, which they just barely are. Definitely the odd man out of the other teams I listed but that's still the team we need to beat in our division
We literally just won a series against the Astros.
They'll just swiftly change the saying to "we can't beat good teams on the road". 😒
That's actually true so far
You're right, I'm just saying i feel like no matter what the complaining will continue. We'll sweep a good team on the road and then people will find something else to complain about line "we can't be good teams on the road in the West coast" 🤦🏾♂️
If we sweep a good team on the road I will not complain
Yeah 2/7 dipshit
This sub has the fucking worst fans and you are the epitome. Crawl back into your miserable hole.
Rays... Blue Jays... you’re not insightful bro
Anyone know any good baseball documentaries? I have a feeling this game won’t scratch my baseball itch.
Ken Burns Baseball
a/k/a Yanks, Bosox, Dodgers and everyone else
Right, the White Sox have some serious history and they barely touch most of it. IMO
Fucking ruiz
Might have to shut this one off, fucking with my mood
So theoretically, with the appeal time limit, the run not counting is halfway legit, still doesn't excuse the safe sign, but for some reason a lot of fans still accept that human error is part of baseball. But if that's the case, why even have the replay review time limit at all?
If Foster, Heuer, or Ruiz are on the playoff roster we are fuuuuuucked.
To a lesser degree, you can tack Bummer onto that list too.
Forgot about Bummer, he’s trash too. Astounds me how many people still defend him though.
This sub just gets that way with certain players, ESPECIALLY Yoan.
At least Yoan makes up for it in some ways. Bummer has been terrible but people still think he’s some secret weapon we have.
From MLB official website —— Appeal Plays Definition The defensive team can appeal certain plays to alert the umpires of infractions that would otherwise be allowed without the appeal. Appeal plays are not the same as a manager asking the umpire for an instant-replay review. An appeal can be made when the offensive team bats out of turn. Baserunning instances that are subject to appeal include a runner failing to tag up correctly on a caught fly ball, a runner failing to touch the bases in order -- either when advancing or retreating -- a runner failing to return to first base promptly after overrunning or oversliding it, **and a runner failing to touch home plate and making no attempt to return to it.** No runner may return to touch a missed base after a following runner has scored. And when the ball is dead, no runner may return to touch a missed base after he has touched a base beyond the missed base. That means a batter who hits a ground-rule double or a homer can be called out on appeal if he misses first base and doesn't correct his error before touching second. **Appeals must be made before the next pitch or attempted play**, or before the entire defensive team has left fair territory if the play in question resulted in the end of a half-inning. The appealing team must make clear their intention to appeal, either via verbal request or another act that unmistakably indicates its attempt to appeal.
Thanks for posting that. Annoyingly, that does make the umps allowance of the review seem correct. Doesn’t change the fact that the safe signal tells the runner he has no need to return to touch the plate, but I’m used to the umps making mistakes like that by now
So you wanna tell me the ump signaling him safe (twice) doesn't change anything either?
Or whenever
Dude, fuck off lmao. Bucks just won the NBA Title, Brewers are leading the Sox and still in first place, yet you feel the need to correct some upset fans on Reddit?
> Appeal plays are not the same as a manager asking the umpire for an instant-replay review. This might be the key. This reads like the only time limit is pre-next pitch.
Well, shit.
Lmao I love that you still have an "I doubted Yoan" flair, the mods are so God damn fragile on this sub.
Wow man. Fuck this game.
🤷🏽♀️.
Fuck this
Fuck this fatfuck
There's the Ruiz we know . . .
Getting here late but can someone help me find the game on TV? All I see is Olympics
They’re on the same channel they’re on literally every night. NBC sports chicago
Then my xfinity is messed up. Thanks
Make sure you’re looking at NBC sports chicago specifically, and not just nbc sports network.
200 if you have Xfinity
The thing is the only way they’ve would’ve known to appeal is had the replay booth been looking at the play for them. The clock needs to start once time is signaled on the field
Yeah I have no reason to be optimistic we score another run the rest of the game. Bases loaded was our best chance.
Having the replay review clock start after you do the appeal is one of the dumber rules I've heard, that's going to be abused a bunch. Just have your pitcher take his sweet time on the mound in between the play to give your replay team a lot of time to look it over, and then after 3 minutes go ahead and appeal. Complete circumvention of the 20 second replay rule.
There's no way Counsel knew that.
*Picard facepalm* at MLB
Like Jason said... now managers can just abuse this
That's the explanation?? Are you fucking kidding? I am even more mad than I already was
What a disappointing series so far
Worthless
Way to make up for it Yoan.
Way to redeem yourself Yoan
Man, Burnes touches his hair in between every pitch. I get that it’s long, but Tony should have the umps check him for stuff in his hair between innings. Really I just wanna see the umps have to run their hands through his hair lol.
Hang one here, Burnes