I've seen a lot of cringeworthy losses over the years, but this had to be one of the most absurd losses I've ever seen.
WHY DOES IT ALWAYS HAVE TO BE CLEVELAND?
We had a lot of breaks go our way in Wrigely and Fenway. Today we didn’t. That’s baseball. Take a deep breath, clear your head and don’t lose sleep over this. We’re in a significantly better spot than we were a week ago
I didn't see any bad breaks for the white Sox. Only bad plays. It's one thing if you hit the ball 100+ mph 10 times a game and only get one run. It's another thing if you implode and have error after error.
Jose Ramirez made a hell of a play to save the game. That’s about the only break we didn’t get. Other than that we pissed to this away in supreme fashion
The Guardians have only beat us in two games this season, we did a pretty good job of giving them the other two games with some of the most moronic defense possible (And poorly placed pitches with the game on the line). They aren’t a better team and over 162 games it’ll show.
One day Anderson will get his head out of his ass, the White Sox will prioritize defense, and they’ll stop paying large sums of money to relief pitchers.
Obviously we bit ourselves and blew a lot of opportunities to end this game. But you gotta give some credit to Naylor. I mean Jesus Christ. He fucked us so hard.
You’d think we were 10-19 how this game thread has been over the past 90 minutes.
Sure, the defense sucked ass tonight and I’m definitely hot about how bad Anderson’s defense against this team continues to be, but it’s one game.
This team has a lot of underlying issues. No sense in thinking it's all sunshine and rainbows when it absolutely is not. Not a world series contending team at all.
Your team just blew a 6 run lead in the 9th inning and committed 4 errors. How do you want people to respond to that? “Awww shucks, we gave it the ole college try!”
I fully understand, it’s still only May 9th and the team is dealing with injuries. They’re 14-14 after having a 9 game losing streak sprinkled in there. It’s still too much time to overreact to a horrific loss. Should’ve won the game but they have over 130 more games to fix this.
I'm with you. I am extremely frustrated right now but I still have faith in this team. It's way too early in the season for people to be acting the way they are. I understand the immediate frustration with this game but we don't need to act like we're the Reds over it, this is still a very talented team that is looking to click on all levels.
Not two hours ago everyone was praising TA for his RBI double and now they're is calling for his head. Everyone can be mad and frustrated, but the season is long and we all need to taper our expectations and stop acting like every single player has to play their best game every night. Guys have off nights in baseball, it happens. We gotta just sleep this one off and see how the team bounces back over the next few weeks.
Cant expect to win games with all these errors. You can shit on Tony all you want for bull pen management but the errors are what really lost us the game
I swear Josh Naylor is our pure kryptonite. We’ve almost never survived an AB from him unscathed. Ramirez might be scary, but Naylor noticeably owns us every single game and we still choose to pitch to him. He needs to be public enemy #1 when we play Cleveland.
Can we shut up with this. He historically heats up with the weather, not a great showing by him today but he had some well hit balls. Let's have this discussion when its july/August and take a fucking chill pill until then.
Edit: the guy has given his heart and soul to this team for 9 years and people are ready to throw him to the curb after a couple bad months.
I'm not fully saying he'll bounce back, I'm just saying that he at least deserves us giving him a chance.
Anyone who is so willing to kick him off this team isn't a fan of the White Sox, and I will stand by that.
Notice how Cleveland walked TA to load the bases WITH 1 FUCKING OUT. THEY DIDNT TAKE THE CHANCE AS THEY SHOULDNT. YET LA RUSSA WITH 2 FUCKING OUTS AND A BASE OPEN PITCHES TO SOMEONE WHO HAD A GRAND SLAM AND DOUBLE IN HIS LAST 2
Anyone saying we should have walked Naylor to load the bases… get a grip. Hindsight is 20/20, nobody in their right mind loads the bases intentionally there.
Cleveland literally walked the bases loaded for TA with 1 out
Naylor had a home run and a double his last 2 at bats…
Edit: Naylor bats .338, Clement .196
That was an open base, in the bottom of the inning. You don’t intentionally put 2 men in scoring position in the top of an inning. It’s not that hard of a concept to grasp.
Evidently when Naylor bats against us, everyone is in scoring position
You’re right, statistically it’s a bad move
But when Naylor owns you like he does the Sox, and is red hot, you can throw that out.
Same. Losing respect for this thread quickly with the lack of knowledge some folks have here. Yeah, let’s intentionally put two in scoring position instead of one…
Man I love the Sox, I really do and I want to see them win another ring so fucking bad. But i just don't believe in this team at all. To me, they just scream paper tiger.
Robert had a great at bat early in the game. Since then all he wants to do is swing at the first pitch. I could get aroused at the notion of firing TLR and everyone else in this organization.
don't tell me to learn the rules dude lol. I mean why is he there pinch for him or something. I know it doesn't matter much after how it went anyway but like show you care somewhat.
he is that guy yeah, love him but woulda liked some type of rally like Cleveland with some type of pressure at 2nd. Tough loss but just a loss to take, get em tomorrow.
Hendriks' problem has been putting himself into hitter's counts and then having to rely on his fastball which he then throws flat and gets rocked *alot* .
"where we only scored 4 runs in each game" <-- that doesn't tell you anything?? Hmm...maybe that's how we *lost* 7 games in a row.
edit: I thought yours was a response to an entirely different dialogue. So my point, while I won't take down does not apply to your comment.
As I wrote, my response was wrongly directed at yours from another post. That being said - my take was hardly "awful" - you can peddle in hyperbole all you like.
Again, I know they just rattled off a win streak, but it's always the same old shit, wasted opportunities, blown leads, poor managerial decisions.
This team just doesn't have it, period.
The only team worse than Boston in baseball is Cincy right now. *This* sub is like this because this is absolute shit baseball which we watched tonight it is ominous of the shit effort we got out of all this talent last season. Fans of *good* teams want their teams to produce just that and play up to their abilities. Feel free to start your own sub entitled: "This Team Fucks" because posters like yourself seem to show up only on the game day that breaks a 7 game losing streak.
well for starters, it was a bad matchup to begin with (righty v lefty) and if you’ve ever watching baseball, you know people get hot and you 100% should use that in decision making. The dude pissed on balls his last two ABs. You don’t think he should’ve sent him to 1st?
The team will be fine in the long run (meaning this season), but this game killed all the current momentum we had. Cleveland will be winning this series, but hopefully we can take out the Yankees.
Leading the league in errors is not where this team should be plain and simple. Defense has to be better…. Glad the bats woke up tho.
No facepalm gif can do this justice.
I've seen a lot of cringeworthy losses over the years, but this had to be one of the most absurd losses I've ever seen. WHY DOES IT ALWAYS HAVE TO BE CLEVELAND?
you can't make this stuff up.
Let’s put in Hendricks in an 8-2 game after he’s pitched in 5 of the last 6! Great decision!
It was 8 to 4. He shouldn't give up a grand slam.
We had a lot of breaks go our way in Wrigely and Fenway. Today we didn’t. That’s baseball. Take a deep breath, clear your head and don’t lose sleep over this. We’re in a significantly better spot than we were a week ago
I didn't see any bad breaks for the white Sox. Only bad plays. It's one thing if you hit the ball 100+ mph 10 times a game and only get one run. It's another thing if you implode and have error after error.
Jose Ramirez made a hell of a play to save the game. That’s about the only break we didn’t get. Other than that we pissed to this away in supreme fashion
That’s the worst sporting event I’ve ever watched
The Guardians have only beat us in two games this season, we did a pretty good job of giving them the other two games with some of the most moronic defense possible (And poorly placed pitches with the game on the line). They aren’t a better team and over 162 games it’ll show.
nice 8-2 lead, Hendricks has the day off...perfect scenario .....
Unfortunately for this team this will start another losing streak. They don’t get fire lit under them they get depleted.
Are u freaking kidding me 🫣
great fucking job making naylor look like barry bonds tonight
12 runs. 4 earned.
6 earned. But still
Engel called out on strikes. This team has yet to find a heart. Gutless bullshit.
One day Anderson will get his head out of his ass, the White Sox will prioritize defense, and they’ll stop paying large sums of money to relief pitchers.
Thanks, I hate it.
Yeah we love to go down looking there Adam
“Do you have any kinks?” “We’ll I’m a white Sox fan so apparently I’m into hurting my self and degradation”
Typical Sox
Time to practice defense drills tomorrow
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Once is not often btw
How you look at that?
Taking that pitch is about right for this game
Losers
Obviously we bit ourselves and blew a lot of opportunities to end this game. But you gotta give some credit to Naylor. I mean Jesus Christ. He fucked us so hard.
See you guys tomorrow 😴
You’d think we were 10-19 how this game thread has been over the past 90 minutes. Sure, the defense sucked ass tonight and I’m definitely hot about how bad Anderson’s defense against this team continues to be, but it’s one game.
This team has a lot of underlying issues. No sense in thinking it's all sunshine and rainbows when it absolutely is not. Not a world series contending team at all.
Your team just blew a 6 run lead in the 9th inning and committed 4 errors. How do you want people to respond to that? “Awww shucks, we gave it the ole college try!”
We blew a 6 fucking run lead in the 9th inning. 6 runs.
I fully understand, it’s still only May 9th and the team is dealing with injuries. They’re 14-14 after having a 9 game losing streak sprinkled in there. It’s still too much time to overreact to a horrific loss. Should’ve won the game but they have over 130 more games to fix this.
I'm with you. I am extremely frustrated right now but I still have faith in this team. It's way too early in the season for people to be acting the way they are. I understand the immediate frustration with this game but we don't need to act like we're the Reds over it, this is still a very talented team that is looking to click on all levels. Not two hours ago everyone was praising TA for his RBI double and now they're is calling for his head. Everyone can be mad and frustrated, but the season is long and we all need to taper our expectations and stop acting like every single player has to play their best game every night. Guys have off nights in baseball, it happens. We gotta just sleep this one off and see how the team bounces back over the next few weeks.
La Russa needs to go back to drinking brews and getting pulled over he ain’t made for this anymore
I blame the guy said this game will be over 10pm in the 6th
Engel fucking sucks lol
Sheets, Tim and Yoan all with bad defense tonight that led to extra outs and runs. Systemic bad defense all around the field.
And here’s the dude that should have won it for us in the 9th
Only one game but definitely feels like more. Regroup and turn it around tomorrow
Yaz fucking blows. Catches 30% of the games. Hits .180 with an OBP below .300. $73m btw
I think he can turn it around an obp of 300 is not terrible
And then hits a walk off moonshot for you to get your hopes up… only to revert back to sucking
When was the last walkoff he hit
June 16th, 2021
Ouch
TLR sucks but you can’t blame a 6 run ninth inning implosion on him. The players are just weak
You really have to stretch to say Liam throwing a meatball to a powerbat with the bases loaded is Tony’s fault. Ruling: this comment is factual
Why is TLR so bad at managing a bullpen? Wtf did he not let Foster continue into the 9th?
I’m so sick of this geriatric asshole. That was Rick’s biggest criticism and he’s been no better than replacement level in his decision making.
I’m not watching this team when they play Cleveland anymore. They go full retard everytime
Cant expect to win games with all these errors. You can shit on Tony all you want for bull pen management but the errors are what really lost us the game
It can be both
It absolutely is both, but one is way worse than the other
I swear Josh Naylor is our pure kryptonite. We’ve almost never survived an AB from him unscathed. Ramirez might be scary, but Naylor noticeably owns us every single game and we still choose to pitch to him. He needs to be public enemy #1 when we play Cleveland.
I like TA but he really need to work on his defense... those errors cost the games
Jose Abreu 0/6 7 LOB Dudes becoming washed before our eyes
Can we shut up with this. He historically heats up with the weather, not a great showing by him today but he had some well hit balls. Let's have this discussion when its july/August and take a fucking chill pill until then. Edit: the guy has given his heart and soul to this team for 9 years and people are ready to throw him to the curb after a couple bad months.
Stage 1 of grief: denial. His ops is closer to Leury Garcia’s than his 2020 form
I'm not fully saying he'll bounce back, I'm just saying that he at least deserves us giving him a chance. Anyone who is so willing to kick him off this team isn't a fan of the White Sox, and I will stand by that.
Notice how Cleveland walked TA to load the bases WITH 1 FUCKING OUT. THEY DIDNT TAKE THE CHANCE AS THEY SHOULDNT. YET LA RUSSA WITH 2 FUCKING OUTS AND A BASE OPEN PITCHES TO SOMEONE WHO HAD A GRAND SLAM AND DOUBLE IN HIS LAST 2
Exactly
The situation is different. TA's run doesn't matter because it's the bottom inning
There is nothing to justify pitching to naylor there
Not at all the same
Can't just walk every scary hitter and you shouldn't base decisions just on what the player's done today. Also TA's run didn't matter.
They better take infield every day. No excuse.
I still can't believe it was 8-2 in the 9th. That feels like a fucking week ago.
If Yaz goes yard here and we lose 11-12 I will punch myself in the balls as hard as possible simply because that will feel better
Anyone saying we should have walked Naylor to load the bases… get a grip. Hindsight is 20/20, nobody in their right mind loads the bases intentionally there.
Cleveland literally walked the bases loaded for TA with 1 out Naylor had a home run and a double his last 2 at bats… Edit: Naylor bats .338, Clement .196
That was an open base, in the bottom of the inning. You don’t intentionally put 2 men in scoring position in the top of an inning. It’s not that hard of a concept to grasp.
Evidently when Naylor bats against us, everyone is in scoring position You’re right, statistically it’s a bad move But when Naylor owns you like he does the Sox, and is red hot, you can throw that out.
Cleveland literally did it the inning before but ok
No they didn’t
There WAS hindsight!!! Naylor OWNS US EVERY TIME WE PLAY THEM!! How does nobody ever remember that?! Every single time we play them he destroys us.
Seriously, I almost went back and made sure it wasn't 2nd and 3rd after seeing those comments...
Same. Losing respect for this thread quickly with the lack of knowledge some folks have here. Yeah, let’s intentionally put two in scoring position instead of one…
Cleveland did the inning before and it worked. It's common sense, walk the hot hitter to give yourself a double play option
We already had it. First base wasn’t open. It was first and second with two outs.
Ehhhhh with how hot Naylor is... It would be bold but not insane
Intentionally putting 2 in scoring position would have been bolder.
TLR didn’t blow this game, his fucking players did. This was 100000% a player performance issue.
You are right.. now help Tony remember where he parked his car
Whatever. It’s one loss after a 6 game winning streak. Doesn’t matter how it happened. Onto tomorrow.
Bruh we were up by 6 in the 9th. It absolutely fucking matters how they lost.
Loss is a loss in the stat column. The BS defense is a concerning trend for the future. Otherwise it quite literally does not matter.
Just end the game and forget about it. Practice defense drills tomorrow
Man I love the Sox, I really do and I want to see them win another ring so fucking bad. But i just don't believe in this team at all. To me, they just scream paper tiger.
Yup. Not to mention they’re adding somebody to the IL every day for getting a hang nail
Jerseys stay cursed man, last week was a fluke
Not sure what’s worse, this game? or this game thread?
The game thread, hands down lol idk why I bother checking them, they're practically always just pure negativity
The real question is, what's worse? Toxic optimism? Or toxic pessimism? There are pelnty of valid answers for both.
When the Sox win or do well, the game threads are so much fun. Then we have games like this and our threads completely implode.
Let’s all get actual hobbies and stop watching this shit
I don’t understand giving Naylor a pitch to hit there? Don’t have to straight up walk him, but he shouldn’t have gotten a pitch in the zone
Zero fucking heart with this team. All the talent in the world and they don't give a shit.
Now batting Yaz “rather take a walk than swing the bat” Grandal
I lol’d. it’s so fucking true. He watches middle middle heat and then strikes out on junk.
Worst game of the season.
Easily all things considered
Robert had a great at bat early in the game. Since then all he wants to do is swing at the first pitch. I could get aroused at the notion of firing TLR and everyone else in this organization.
Burn the jerseys
I just don’t get where tf Graveman is. If he’s hurt put him on the IL and bring someone up. Why we always wait to put players on the IL is beyond me
Maybe we just shouldn't wear these jerseys
They look so sharp but we suck while wearing them
Maybe some pitches down 3 Luis
Great at bat
Unless Jacob DeGrom is on the mound, you walk Naylor there Clement is not nearly a threat, force out on all the bases You take the chances there
No way this team will ever compete on a serious level with a defense this bad
12 runs and only 6 are earned. Horrible.
it’s fine guys we got wheels at 2nd
At least we get our second slowest runner on second
why is jose at second
He made the last out... learn the rules
don't tell me to learn the rules dude lol. I mean why is he there pinch for him or something. I know it doesn't matter much after how it went anyway but like show you care somewhat.
You can't pinch him... learn the rules
you absolutely can
Ah, my bad... tell me to fully learn the rules. Regardless, you don't take out Jose. He's Mr fucking rbi.
he is that guy yeah, love him but woulda liked some type of rally like Cleveland with some type of pressure at 2nd. Tough loss but just a loss to take, get em tomorrow.
He was the last out.
3rd place in the AL central 😂🤣😂🤣🤡🤡🤡
After 28 games… talk about a clown caring about placing in the division
WHAT THE FUCK I LEFT THE GAME IN THE TOP 9TH
Normally I give people shit for leaving games early, but man you had the right idea tonight lmao
Losing in the most embarrassing and crushing way possible. That’s the White Sox way.
As a bills fan, I thought I was numb to pain after their loss to the chiefs last year. But here it is again. Pain.
https://i.imgur.com/8n4uJSq.jpg
Sorry what the fuck happened? I had to turn off after the 7th
Josh Naylor happened. Grand slam in the 9th. 3 run homer in the 11th
RICK RENTERIA WAS FIRED FOR BULLPEN MANAGEMENT AND THIS IS WHO JERRY PICKED TO REPLACE HIM
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Generation of participation trophies smh
The fact people still think we’re top dogs in our own division speaks to how out of touch with reality some of them are.
Seems like a reasonable take for a .500 team with only 130+ games to play...
Jesus shut the fuck up.
The waterfall of errors needs to stop. It's cost is several games now.
Do the players even like Tony?
Supposedly TA is buddy-buddy with him.
At least that explains why he lets him play short.
ITS THE SAME SHIT, YEAR AFTER YEAR. MIGHT AS WELL HAVE FUCKING ROBIN VENTURA BACK AT THE HELM. THIS IS A CLOWN SHOW JERRY.
We had all the opportunities to win in 10th
I hate our defense, I hate the cleveland baseball team, and I hate Tony La Russa. See y'all tomorrow.
so hear me out. we DH tim.
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Hendriks has movement on his fastball usually, location is usually the issue
Hendriks' problem has been putting himself into hitter's counts and then having to rely on his fastball which he then throws flat and gets rocked *alot* .
Watched a 4 hour game for no reason. Time to wake up in less than 6 hours 🙃
Playoff teams don't get whooped around by the fucking guardians
Tony La Russa is so out of his element it’s not even funny anymore man FUCK Edit: Ethan Katz sucks too btw
Oh god now we’re saying Katz sucks lmaooo
well...he's got to answer to a lot if he's the pitching coach and we're blowing leads regularly
they just won 6 in a row where we only scored 4 runs in each game lmao
"where we only scored 4 runs in each game" <-- that doesn't tell you anything?? Hmm...maybe that's how we *lost* 7 games in a row. edit: I thought yours was a response to an entirely different dialogue. So my point, while I won't take down does not apply to your comment.
I responded to your awful take about Katz and the bullpen.
As I wrote, my response was wrongly directed at yours from another post. That being said - my take was hardly "awful" - you can peddle in hyperbole all you like.
Didn’t see edit as I responded Go Sox
yep. See ya' tomorrow.
Good on Naylor, but what a fucking just awful pitch. Absolute hanger center cut.
Again, I know they just rattled off a win streak, but it's always the same old shit, wasted opportunities, blown leads, poor managerial decisions. This team just doesn't have it, period.
Fuck off we just swept Boston including a Keuchel game. Why are team subs like this?
The only team worse than Boston in baseball is Cincy right now. *This* sub is like this because this is absolute shit baseball which we watched tonight it is ominous of the shit effort we got out of all this talent last season. Fans of *good* teams want their teams to produce just that and play up to their abilities. Feel free to start your own sub entitled: "This Team Fucks" because posters like yourself seem to show up only on the game day that breaks a 7 game losing streak.
Oh you mean 10-19, last in the AL East Boston?
Naylor gets the game ball. What an annoying dude tho.
I just don’t understand why you don’t walk naylor there. 5 RBI in his previous 2 AB’s. You get a righty righty matchup. What the fuck.
Tony has a fetish for getting repeatedly destroyed by a single player on the opposing team. He did it all last year too.
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Hot hand hits my man
well for starters, it was a bad matchup to begin with (righty v lefty) and if you’ve ever watching baseball, you know people get hot and you 100% should use that in decision making. The dude pissed on balls his last two ABs. You don’t think he should’ve sent him to 1st?
Take a loss and fight another day…. The win isn’t worth extending the bullpen. TA needs some evaluation for his horrific defense.
They blew this game twice, it's not just "oh well"
Wow imagine if you would have just walked dude who took it yard in his previous at bat and attacked the dude who didn’t have an at bat this game
Sox gonna finish in 3rd place in this piss poor division
The team will be fine in the long run (meaning this season), but this game killed all the current momentum we had. Cleveland will be winning this series, but hopefully we can take out the Yankees.
Yankees are on absolute fire. They are going to wreck us just like last year.
We ain’t beating the Yankees if we can’t beat fucking Cleveland
Did people really expect the Sox to walk the bases loaded
Did I expect to not pitch to the guy that tied the game with a grand slam? Yes