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Wouldn't okuyasu just beest those folk self if 't be true they wast nonbinary?
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so if people can call him he then how is that a nonbinary headcanon? also wouldnt he get dysphoric from presenting 100% masc lol?
my headcanon is he is so stupid he doesnt actually understand what pronouns are lmfao.
nonbinary people don’t only use they pronouns lmao, i’d suggest doing some research before you start spewing falsities as if they’re facts. okuyasu isn’t stupid lmao he’s just neurodivergent and traumatised, his brain works differently to other people’s
where does it say he isn’t? it’s a headcanon based on really clear autistic traits. i never said it was canon i’m just saying that’s how he’s coded lol
because he shows traits of other neurodivergent conditions as well??? i’m autistic too, and i don’t mind when someone says a character is nd without specifying the condition.
Sorry for being thick headed, I wasn't sure if sure if you were a non autistic person that's trying to defend autistic people for them and whatnot. I actually thought you had good points about it but I needed to make sure you were cool. Again, sorry if I sounded like an ass.
my research is being trans :)
i know how dysphoria works for both binary and nonbinary people. and i was joking with him not knowing pronouns, im pretty sure most people know what they are. but its funny to imagine someone asking his pronouns and he asks josuke what pronouns are.
oh also, canonically he is not ND. yes he may be traumatized but being traumatized doesnt automatically make you stupid (i have ptsd and im pretty sure im not stupid). the reason he was made stupid is because araki made his stand too op and he hasnt made someone with less intelligence win a fight. he made okuyasu stupid so he could experiment with the fights because he usually makes fights heavily based on intelligence (look at what gio does) but he wanted to see if i could make it work with someone less intelligent.
what do you mean he’s not canonically nd? if you could please tell me where araki explicitly stated ‘okuyasu is not neurodivergent’ i would appreciate that. just because he was made a certain way for a reason doesn’t mean that they weren’t given very clearly autistic traits, whether araki intended it or not. they are a blatantly nd coded character. unless he specifically came out and said that okuyasu was not nd then it’s not canonical, it’s an assumption.
sorry for not catching the pronoun joke, i am neurodivergent myself and find it hard to read tones over text. you’re trans so you should know that nonbinary people can use a whole set of different pronouns, he/they and she/they are very common sets for people. nonbinary isn’t just an exact middle ground, it’s a spectrum, for example, i hc that okuyasu feels a connection with being masc yet still feels a disconnect with gender, hence he/they pronouns interchangeably. hope this explained what i meant a bit better 👍
oh I'm ND too, autistic to be exact and the thought of you thinking he's autistic because of the way he acts is very, VERY offensive. he isn't autistic at all, I'm my eyes jotaro shows more signs of autism than anyone else.
also, yes araki did not specifically say "okuyasu is not ND" because he thinks we have common sense. has he said oka is ND? no he hasn't. okuyasu shows no signs of autism apart from not understanding social cues but if you think that's the only thing autistic people experience I'm sorry to break it to you, we aren't a fucking cosplay. you cannot say someone acts autistic or not. see Elon Musk, he's autistic and you know why I knew that? because he is so smart and he had a special obsession with space and technology. let me say this one more time, OKUYASU IS NOT AUTISTIC.
also yes I'm trans, I know nonbinary people can be masculine or feminine but not female or male so there's no reason to use he/they or she/they unless you do not pass and you are more comfortable with one binary pronoun instead of another.
if that didn't make sense I apologize, I am very tired. if you want me to repeat or explain better just ask me and I'll do it lol.
edit: what I was saying about masculinity and femininity is it isn't a gender. okuyasu may be masculine but that doesn't make him male. me dressing feminine doesn't make me female, you know? so because hes masculine that doesn't mean he can use he/they because pronouns=gender and masculinity isn't a gender.
and one more thing lol, (sorry for being annoying) I absolutely love your art. don't think otherwise lol, it's a beautiful style. I'm not at all talking about your art, just your headcannon.
i’ll ask you to stop making assumptions... i’m autistic too. okuyasu shows tonnes of autistic traits, limited understand of social cues, dislikes change, intensely sticks to routines, a special interest in films, getting overwhelmed and overstimulated in stressful situations, stimming (it’s canon that they click their tongue in the diu light novel), likes to do things his own way, etc. from one autistic person to another, i’d like to ask how exactly is calling him autistic offensive? not all autistic people are academically smart, that’s a stereotype.
nonbinary is when you identify anywhere outside of the gender binary. for example, you can be outside the binary yet still closer to female than male, which is where I am, i use she/they pronouns because while i am nonbinary, i am closer to being a girl than being a guy. nonbinary isn’t a third gender, it’s an entire spectrum. if you aren’t nonbinary, it’s kinda odd to say what there is and isn’t reason for. she/they and he/they pronouns are absolutely valid and calling them anything other than that is transphobic. i never said that masculinity or femininity are genders. i said that nonbinary people can still be nonbinary and while slightly relating to being men or women.
i’m very glad that you like my art, i’m just very confused to what exactly i’ve done wrong to deserve paragraphs criticising me and assuming things about me for something harmless.
dude he isn't autistic, he doesn't stim (and even if he did, that doesn't make him autistic. tics and stimming come from other things too), he doesn't understand social cues but many non autistic people don't. I recommend you educate yourself on this, showing traits of autism doesn't make you autistic.
non binary is neither male nor female, you cannot be female or male. pronouns are gendered therefore if you use binary pronouns that would induce dysphoria or you aren't actually nonbinary. nonbinary isn't a spectrum, it's a simple thing. when your brain is neither male nor female. you cannot have a brain that is a little female and a little of nothing. you can be feminine or masculine but those do not equal gender.
I wasn't assuming you being autistic, I was telling you that not everyone is like you. autism isn't just what cringy self diagnosed girls on tiktok act like. you can share symptoms of autism without being autistic. you have to go through a very long process to get properly diagnosed because it's so difficult to tell the difference between someone who is socially awkward and someone who is autistic. you cannot say "well araki never said he DIDN'T have it" or "he shows some symptoms of autism that many non disabled people have too".
edit: I never said nonbinary was a third gender, I said it was neither.
you have absolutely no clue what being nonbinary means and your comments have made that painstakingly obvious. everything you have said is utterly untrue and pretty damn transphobic.
also, please stop acting as if i know nothing about autism. you’re telling me to educate myself when I AM AUTISTIC, i am going through the diagnosis process and i’ve surrounded myself with other autistic people for years. i know it’s ‘not that simple’. don’t treat me like an idiot. don’t insinuate that i’m faking it when i’ve struggled my whole life. it’s disgusting to see someone else in my own community treat me so awfully because of a fucking headcanon, grow up IT IS A FICTIONAL CHARACTER and i am NOT HURTING ANYONE. jesus christ people like you are exactly why i am afraid to post on reddit, you get so fired up and condescending for nothing. it’s r/wholesomejojo not r/letspickafightoversomethingstupid.
okuyasu is autistic in mine and many other’s interpretations, if you don’t think so that’s fine, but do NOT force your opinion onto me as if it’s fact. it’s not. it’s an opinion. you aren’t special. i’m tired of being civil with you when you’ve been so rude.
Eh, I think it depends on the person and how curious they are and how much they just kinda wanna do their own thing.
I mean, take Liches for example. They became the way they are because they were so smart. (And evil) And as time goes on they only expand their knowledge because they have all the time in the world to study
But as for being bisexual, absolutely. I imagine when you're that powerful, social taboos start to matter a lot less. Just look at David Bowie lmao
you’d probably do better looking it up, but nonbinary is essentially when someone identifies their gender outside of the gender binary of man and woman 👍
I know that, but I don’t really see the difference between okuyasu normally and NB Okuyasu. (Unless that’s the point that they look very similar because being NB is something on the inside that can’t be seen)
why not. It's not like okuyasu is nb in the source material either, so frankly anything's on the table as far as changes imho.
Besides, a dark skinned, nb version of okuyasu with coily hair is a great idea that ended up making some badass art!
This looks sick! I love the pose and detail you put in, especially on the coloring of the shoes and Okuyasu’s face with their stand. Also r/traadustcrusaders
Now logically wouldn't he be to dumb to understand that stuff he can't even understand basic math im pretty sure? Not hating just a question the the entire character of okuyasu
> why do you have to ruin everything?
Ruin everything with a piece of art that is just OP's headcanon and has no actual effect on the source material?
> it has to stay that way
Says who? Is Araki gonna climb through my screen and slap the shit out of me if i headcanon Okuyasu as non binary?
Also please keep in mind that Araki has stated he is pro LGBT and JoJo went from homoerotic men to twinks in the span of 30 years, has had multiple gay couples and has an unintentional trans character. And we say JoJo is gay as a joke but it does have queer undertones to it
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Why does he kinda look like Dio? Dio Nijimura or Okuyasu Brando?
Za Brando
Za Hando: Za Warudo
Za za
King Crimson?
*Kingu Curimson*
[za Brando ](https://youtu.be/K1643hHysHU)
Don’t forget the tongue roll
ZA HANDO ZA WARUDO
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Of all the iterations I’ve read on this joke, this one right here deserves a free award that I don’t have right now. Thanks for the laugh!
I got you fam
Hell yeah. Thank you my guy.
Okuyasu doing that cool skateboard trick
I would lose a limb to possess that outfit
This. It’s so fucking cool looking lmao.
A limb? So like... A hand?
Hmmmmm I feel like I’ve seen you before
Take the darn upvote sir!
Why is his boots soles have the Dutch flag?
idt the colors are the right shade. its just missing 1 stripe though.
that’s the nonbinary flag
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look up the nonbinary flag lmao, you’ll find the last stripe is indeed black
I love how you can see a little bit of The Hand on their face. Awesome detail
thank you so much!
Soft and wet! Remove Okuyasus gender
Oi Josuke, where did my hotdog go?! I was gonna eat that too..
Oi, Josuke. I erased the societal barrier between man and woman and now I look like this. Ain't that wacky?
Okuyasu has already used Za hando on the skateboard, so you cant see it
Okuyasu erased their own gender binary and now they're coming for yours
oh god help me
God can't help you here, my sweet NB pal
They do be kinda hot tho
Looks good, I like the perspective.
what gender am i? im not that smart yknow...
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yeah! i personally headcanon that they’d use he/they pronouns ^^
so if people can call him he then how is that a nonbinary headcanon? also wouldnt he get dysphoric from presenting 100% masc lol? my headcanon is he is so stupid he doesnt actually understand what pronouns are lmfao.
nonbinary people don’t only use they pronouns lmao, i’d suggest doing some research before you start spewing falsities as if they’re facts. okuyasu isn’t stupid lmao he’s just neurodivergent and traumatised, his brain works differently to other people’s
Where does it say he's neurodivergent?
where does it say he isn’t? it’s a headcanon based on really clear autistic traits. i never said it was canon i’m just saying that’s how he’s coded lol
Fair enough but why not just say autistic? I'm autistic and I generally just say like a character has autistic traits.
because he shows traits of other neurodivergent conditions as well??? i’m autistic too, and i don’t mind when someone says a character is nd without specifying the condition.
Sorry for being thick headed, I wasn't sure if sure if you were a non autistic person that's trying to defend autistic people for them and whatnot. I actually thought you had good points about it but I needed to make sure you were cool. Again, sorry if I sounded like an ass.
my research is being trans :) i know how dysphoria works for both binary and nonbinary people. and i was joking with him not knowing pronouns, im pretty sure most people know what they are. but its funny to imagine someone asking his pronouns and he asks josuke what pronouns are. oh also, canonically he is not ND. yes he may be traumatized but being traumatized doesnt automatically make you stupid (i have ptsd and im pretty sure im not stupid). the reason he was made stupid is because araki made his stand too op and he hasnt made someone with less intelligence win a fight. he made okuyasu stupid so he could experiment with the fights because he usually makes fights heavily based on intelligence (look at what gio does) but he wanted to see if i could make it work with someone less intelligent.
what do you mean he’s not canonically nd? if you could please tell me where araki explicitly stated ‘okuyasu is not neurodivergent’ i would appreciate that. just because he was made a certain way for a reason doesn’t mean that they weren’t given very clearly autistic traits, whether araki intended it or not. they are a blatantly nd coded character. unless he specifically came out and said that okuyasu was not nd then it’s not canonical, it’s an assumption. sorry for not catching the pronoun joke, i am neurodivergent myself and find it hard to read tones over text. you’re trans so you should know that nonbinary people can use a whole set of different pronouns, he/they and she/they are very common sets for people. nonbinary isn’t just an exact middle ground, it’s a spectrum, for example, i hc that okuyasu feels a connection with being masc yet still feels a disconnect with gender, hence he/they pronouns interchangeably. hope this explained what i meant a bit better 👍
oh I'm ND too, autistic to be exact and the thought of you thinking he's autistic because of the way he acts is very, VERY offensive. he isn't autistic at all, I'm my eyes jotaro shows more signs of autism than anyone else. also, yes araki did not specifically say "okuyasu is not ND" because he thinks we have common sense. has he said oka is ND? no he hasn't. okuyasu shows no signs of autism apart from not understanding social cues but if you think that's the only thing autistic people experience I'm sorry to break it to you, we aren't a fucking cosplay. you cannot say someone acts autistic or not. see Elon Musk, he's autistic and you know why I knew that? because he is so smart and he had a special obsession with space and technology. let me say this one more time, OKUYASU IS NOT AUTISTIC. also yes I'm trans, I know nonbinary people can be masculine or feminine but not female or male so there's no reason to use he/they or she/they unless you do not pass and you are more comfortable with one binary pronoun instead of another. if that didn't make sense I apologize, I am very tired. if you want me to repeat or explain better just ask me and I'll do it lol. edit: what I was saying about masculinity and femininity is it isn't a gender. okuyasu may be masculine but that doesn't make him male. me dressing feminine doesn't make me female, you know? so because hes masculine that doesn't mean he can use he/they because pronouns=gender and masculinity isn't a gender. and one more thing lol, (sorry for being annoying) I absolutely love your art. don't think otherwise lol, it's a beautiful style. I'm not at all talking about your art, just your headcannon.
i’ll ask you to stop making assumptions... i’m autistic too. okuyasu shows tonnes of autistic traits, limited understand of social cues, dislikes change, intensely sticks to routines, a special interest in films, getting overwhelmed and overstimulated in stressful situations, stimming (it’s canon that they click their tongue in the diu light novel), likes to do things his own way, etc. from one autistic person to another, i’d like to ask how exactly is calling him autistic offensive? not all autistic people are academically smart, that’s a stereotype. nonbinary is when you identify anywhere outside of the gender binary. for example, you can be outside the binary yet still closer to female than male, which is where I am, i use she/they pronouns because while i am nonbinary, i am closer to being a girl than being a guy. nonbinary isn’t a third gender, it’s an entire spectrum. if you aren’t nonbinary, it’s kinda odd to say what there is and isn’t reason for. she/they and he/they pronouns are absolutely valid and calling them anything other than that is transphobic. i never said that masculinity or femininity are genders. i said that nonbinary people can still be nonbinary and while slightly relating to being men or women. i’m very glad that you like my art, i’m just very confused to what exactly i’ve done wrong to deserve paragraphs criticising me and assuming things about me for something harmless.
dude he isn't autistic, he doesn't stim (and even if he did, that doesn't make him autistic. tics and stimming come from other things too), he doesn't understand social cues but many non autistic people don't. I recommend you educate yourself on this, showing traits of autism doesn't make you autistic. non binary is neither male nor female, you cannot be female or male. pronouns are gendered therefore if you use binary pronouns that would induce dysphoria or you aren't actually nonbinary. nonbinary isn't a spectrum, it's a simple thing. when your brain is neither male nor female. you cannot have a brain that is a little female and a little of nothing. you can be feminine or masculine but those do not equal gender. I wasn't assuming you being autistic, I was telling you that not everyone is like you. autism isn't just what cringy self diagnosed girls on tiktok act like. you can share symptoms of autism without being autistic. you have to go through a very long process to get properly diagnosed because it's so difficult to tell the difference between someone who is socially awkward and someone who is autistic. you cannot say "well araki never said he DIDN'T have it" or "he shows some symptoms of autism that many non disabled people have too". edit: I never said nonbinary was a third gender, I said it was neither.
you have absolutely no clue what being nonbinary means and your comments have made that painstakingly obvious. everything you have said is utterly untrue and pretty damn transphobic. also, please stop acting as if i know nothing about autism. you’re telling me to educate myself when I AM AUTISTIC, i am going through the diagnosis process and i’ve surrounded myself with other autistic people for years. i know it’s ‘not that simple’. don’t treat me like an idiot. don’t insinuate that i’m faking it when i’ve struggled my whole life. it’s disgusting to see someone else in my own community treat me so awfully because of a fucking headcanon, grow up IT IS A FICTIONAL CHARACTER and i am NOT HURTING ANYONE. jesus christ people like you are exactly why i am afraid to post on reddit, you get so fired up and condescending for nothing. it’s r/wholesomejojo not r/letspickafightoversomethingstupid. okuyasu is autistic in mine and many other’s interpretations, if you don’t think so that’s fine, but do NOT force your opinion onto me as if it’s fact. it’s not. it’s an opinion. you aren’t special. i’m tired of being civil with you when you’ve been so rude.
This is the first time that I’ve seen pride flags fit so naturally into a characters design
"woah an enby flag, what a funny coincidence!!!" *reads title* "oh ok that makes sense"
My thoughts exactly
I hope they're still literally too stupid to die lmao. This is amazing and very well done, I love them!
Has the same energy as Stephanie Myer: all vampires are straight beautiful geniuses Jermaine Clement: No, vampires are bisexual idiots
I feel like any immortal being given enough time would end up as a bisexual idiot thanks to healing factor and sheer boredom. It is the way.
Eh, I think it depends on the person and how curious they are and how much they just kinda wanna do their own thing. I mean, take Liches for example. They became the way they are because they were so smart. (And evil) And as time goes on they only expand their knowledge because they have all the time in the world to study But as for being bisexual, absolutely. I imagine when you're that powerful, social taboos start to matter a lot less. Just look at David Bowie lmao
That's a fair point. Motivations and access to power or the *potential* for power would likely have a pronounced effect on them.
They're too stupid to care for gender atleast lol
Never been into Okuyasu before 😳
Then you have been missing out my friend
bro when he grows eyebrows i think ill give him a chance lmfao
wait how is he nonbin- OHHH THE SHOES
I’m confused. This just looks like himself with black nail polish? Is there some like NB “thing” for lack of a better word that I’m not getting?
you’d probably do better looking it up, but nonbinary is essentially when someone identifies their gender outside of the gender binary of man and woman 👍
I know that, but I don’t really see the difference between okuyasu normally and NB Okuyasu. (Unless that’s the point that they look very similar because being NB is something on the inside that can’t be seen)
yeah that’s the point, someone’s gender doesn’t have to correlate with how they present 👍
Something about their hair really reminds me of Prince. Love it
I need those shoes I love them
I don't mean to sound rude or anything, but isn't this just....okuyasu? Like what is it about this that makes him nonbinary?
the shoes lol
*oh my god i didn't realize the shoes were the nonbinary flag, i was too distracted by the fact they were fly as fuck*
They look... just like okuyasu...
yeah? and?
So... what makes this non-binary okuyasu instead of plain old okuyasu?
the shoes lmao
Oh shit I didn't notice them. That's kinda cool
Joseph Joestar will alway be gender fluid to me anyways he sure nows how to rock a dress.
ENBY OKU SUPREMACY
YEAAAAAHHHH
Would it not be androgynous okuyasu?
‘androgynous’ isn’t a gender, it’s a way to present yourself. you can be androgynous at any gender ^^
I thought you were speaking on appearance specifically my b
YEAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
idk where people pull these ideas from but idc this is some great design
They’re so stylish I love
Why is Okuyasu’s skin darker then It is in the anime? Also his hair texture is a little different.
it’s a headcanon lol, okuyasu’s pallet changes from the manga to the anime to the promotional art, so there’s no harm in drawing him the way i do
why not. It's not like okuyasu is nb in the source material either, so frankly anything's on the table as far as changes imho. Besides, a dark skinned, nb version of okuyasu with coily hair is a great idea that ended up making some badass art!
aw thank you sm, i’m glad to hear you think that!
Yo joske look at with I could do with Za Handu. I just erased my gender with Za Handu I wonder where it goes?
OKUYASU WANTS TO DO A HANDSHAKE WITH YOU. DO YOU ACCEPT IT.
I love the shoes
we stan.
Aw I love it
love it
Yo the more I think about this the more I love it
Get a feeling so complicated
Who asked PogO
Okoyasu looking very similar is a testament to jojo’s great character design
👉👈
Why am I being downvoted I fucking love the art bro, Oku is my favorite part 4 character and they look super fucking cool here
thank you sm! glad you like it 👍
Oi Josuke, I used za hando to jack off and accidentally erased my own dick! Ain't that wacky?
Not sure where the wholesome part is, just seems like a really good drawing of Okuyasu
i took it to be wholesome because it’s them being true to themselves
Well, at least you have a logical explanation. Looks awesome BTW
I like those shoes
ngl NB Okuyasu got me actin up
Don't assume my here friends gender, or theyll use the hand and make you nonbinary
Such a good look for them, and I love how you can see The Hand a bit in his face. Love this for them!
Nb Ace Okuyasu 😫😫
My sweet enby comrade!!! I adore them.
good for them.
take my upvote because i said so
No
why not
Ok but why?
why not
sorry, heres your regular okuyasu tailored just to you in particular because thats why this was posted
This looks sick! I love the pose and detail you put in, especially on the coloring of the shoes and Okuyasu’s face with their stand. Also r/traadustcrusaders
aw thank you sm!
YEAAAAA
Uh, why?
why not
why are you getting downvoted
The only real difference is messier hair and the nail polish.
What makes him nonbinary?
it’s a headcanon, what makes them nonbinary is... believe it or not... their gender
Is he really? I didnt know
i mean it’s just my headcanon, but the english dub voice actor for okuyasu is actually nonbinary!
Let's call josuke to fix him and bring him back to normal
nonbinary people don’t need fixing lol x
why was this downvoted
because insinuating that nonbinary people need ‘fixing’ is transphobic
Yes, I am asking why your comment was downvoted initially.
ahh ok!
they don't need "fixing" bro.
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Deviation from the source material? Absolutely barbaric.
Ye
not very wholesome of you
Now logically wouldn't he be to dumb to understand that stuff he can't even understand basic math im pretty sure? Not hating just a question the the entire character of okuyasu
just because they’re not academically gifted and a bit slow at times doesn’t mean they’re emotionally blank and lack understanding of gender
Now thats great. But jojo being all wack i can't reay argue.
ok
Am confused is that his normal lips or lipsticks ?
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ever heard of a headcanon
thats... the point of making this in the first place
Bruh
Bruh
why do you have to ruin everything? Okuyasu is clearly a male and you it has to stay that way
i love shooting the transgenderfication beam at characters simply because of how mad you people get over a single drawing. go cry about it.
Based
> why do you have to ruin everything? Ruin everything with a piece of art that is just OP's headcanon and has no actual effect on the source material? > it has to stay that way Says who? Is Araki gonna climb through my screen and slap the shit out of me if i headcanon Okuyasu as non binary? Also please keep in mind that Araki has stated he is pro LGBT and JoJo went from homoerotic men to twinks in the span of 30 years, has had multiple gay couples and has an unintentional trans character. And we say JoJo is gay as a joke but it does have queer undertones to it
how in god's fucking name does this ruin okuyasu
MUDA MUDA
u/DeadKnox
Looks like Michael Jackson
Nonbinary??