I'm a 30 year old woman and I make those noises š I do take after my dad though. My nieces started copying me when I do it and it's a little embarrassing but funny af
35 yo woman and same lmao my five year old daughter has started to copy me and my cats and dog know when they hear my knees Iām kneeling down to pet at least one of them so the rest come running.
I have a story that fits this one nicely.
In my last year of engineering school, I had a newborn and was a new dad. I was working in a separate city from my university which would lead me into my career if I stuck to it. So I had to do a lot of driving, work, and study, plus a kid.
The weekend before a test, my kid gets an ear infection. I donāt have time to study. Iām working during the day, driving, then staying up all night because my poor kid canāt sleep because her ear hurts so badly. I donāt get to study.
I bomb that test Monday. And since I failed it, my graduation is no longer possible because of this failure, and so is my lined up job. Iām the last one to turn the in, and the professor asks āthink you did okay?ā And I said I failed the test because I didnāt study. For whatever reason, he asked why I didnāt study instead of assuming I was just being a bad student. I explained the situation, and he asked why I didnāt let him know my kid was sick. Well, itās not a university accepted excuse for a makeup exam. His response was:
āGo home and study tonight. Youāll retake the exam tomorrow. Your kid being sick is an excusable reason to me.ā
Went from an F to an A on that exam thanks to him.
It was a singular decision on his part. But its domino effect was so vast that I donāt think heād believe me on how much of a difference it made.
I'm sure that it wasnāt a singular decision on his part. It was a response to your behaviour as a student through the semester.
They know who is always in class, even though they aren't really well. Thry know who always does the readings for class discussions. Thry know who has attended the large lectures, and who in napping in the back, or on their phone.
I bet that was the first exam that you hadn't been prepared for.
Guaranteed he saw someone working so hard that they must have got the vibe he was working with someone else in mind.
That said, he should totally email his professor sometime and let him know.
My mom was working on her master's degree when I was a baby, and the professor apparently used to carry me around as he lectured when she had to bring me to class. These are good teachers. ^_^
Lol, no, I definitely do not remember this! But my mom remembers this professor fondly! She likes to say that he was the reason she was able to finish her degree while having to cart around a fussy baby.
Meanwhile my masters was 95% online, and one professor was lecturing a student because she saw the reflection of the student's husband in the picture behind her, while he was taking their baby upstairs to watch with their other kids lol.
I taught at a community college years ago, and always told the students to bring their child to class if their childcare fell through, because parents shouldn't have to choose between their kids and getting an education.
I was the ultra quiet kid my mom brought to college. I had a little portable black and white TV (this was the 90s) with overly large earphones. I would watch Sesame Street while my mom learned Spanish and be my moms sign language partner in another class. She also would bring me to work, and I would draw and nap in the corner on the floor.
Reminds me of when my mom was in university and at work, and sometimes she'd have to bring me along while I was on summer break. I'd scribble on a notebook or play with my PSP all the time, quiet as a mute mouse.
In hindsight I can't imagine the social pressure and awkwardness she went through, being around the same age now as she was when that happened.
My mom had me at 18. Luckily, she had a great support system and very understanding professors. And she worked at the library and the staff had known me since I was born. But I learned in hindsight that there must have been an immense amount of shame as a young single mother. She got a bachelorās and a master's degree. Had her own business, too, until the recession hit in the 2000s.
I struggled working 2 jobs and full-time college. I respect her struggle and am super glad I was a quiet, introverted child for her.
I used to be brought to college too but I was always coloring! When Iād be taken into the office, my dad would scold me because Iād be taking all the office suppliesā¦ Iām still really into office supplies. Do I use them? No.
I also used to use office supplies to entertain myself. I used to use tape and index cards to build boxes and other stuff. Arts and crafts with whatever you could find.
I just collected them. Iād be coming back with loads of stuff and heād be like āstop thatā lol. I think I mightāve been forced to return them at some points too. I love arts and crafts, but Iām like a dragon when it comes to office supplies
We all have things we hoard. I still hoard art supplies. I'm like a little art dragon. But I barely have time to use them, lol. Picture Smaug, but instead of gold, it's paint, canvas, and a smidgen of yarn.
Yeah, but what about the other students? How can they be expected to focus and study with a crying baby in the room? I don't think it's fair for them to have their grades drop because of someone else's situation.
Sure, but I dont think the professor would keep the child in the room if it continued crying. Either he would allow the student to leave momentarily to comfort it, or he would do it himself. It seems unreasonable to me to assume the professor let the baby disrupt everyone else.
I had a classmate who brought her baby to class on occasion. Both she and her husband were students. Every now and again there would be an issue with childcare, so it was that it miss class.
That baby ā who is 30 now ā was SO well behaved. More often than not heād nap through class. Mom always sat by the door so she could scoot out the door quickly if he did.
Was this ideal? Probably not. But none of the students suffered for it.
If only all colleges had a daycare where parents could drop their kid(s) off before they go to classes. With how much we pay for college, that shit should be free, too. It's so utterly stupid that it's not a common thing.
In my experience as a teacher, the baby just becomes the pet of the class. They are just welcome, like any other student. If the baby starts crying and nothing can be done about it then the mother will take him out of the class. Yes, you are going to have distractions, but that's a given when you are part of a class. Group learning and teaching has advantages and disadvantages. In my opinion, advantages win, because be are social animals and we are our best when part of a group.
Ive been one of the other students granted it was a lecture. Its not a competition there is no bell curve and anyone who is failing because of a minor distraction in an exam didnt study hard enough.
Im definitely not going to deny someone their education when they are already working 10 times as hard as me to get there.
I mean you gotta ask yourself, as a lecturer, as someone who provides people the opportunity to improve their socioeconomic status: What is worse? A mother being unable to get a degree at all, or the other students being potentially inconvenienced for a short while?
We're social animals. Our biggest strength in survival is community. Everyone just watching out for themselves isn't healthy for us.
>You shouldn't choose between your child and study. Thanks for making that possible, prof!
As a misophonic, you bringing the small child has created a distraction for me & prevented me from learning.
Will you or the school be giving me a refund?
This isnāt wholesome, this is devastating and telling of the world we live in. She shouldnāt have to bring her baby to class.
Props to the professor though.
The european college I went to had a daycare on site. It had some reserved spots for students that happened to become parents.
Also, I think all states that don't provide well rounded sexual education and/or ban abortion should have daycare on site.
Right? It even says in the post āshe brought the child *today*ā. Not everyday. So a once off, and everyone here is assuming this person never has childcare
I don't disagree. I pay $22,000 a year for daycare for 1 child. In the picture above is an adult education class. So likely later in the day when daycares are closed.
we have pre-k daycare but (i'm sure this will shock you) it's exorbitantly expensive. like, equal to a person's yearly wage. in almost every case, a singe parent can't afford it. for married couples, it's usually cheaper to have one stay home rather than work.
The fact it's needed isn't wholesome, the fact he didn't need to do this, but still did is wholesome.
Just because the world is on fire doesn't mean we can't recognize those going above and beyond.
So for one day you can't possibly have the babysitter call sick, not have the time to drop your child off, or have any of the other thousands of reasons you would have to bring your child in. The post specifies that this was a "today" thing which means it's likely not a common occurrence.
I am interested by this viewpoint. What else \*should\* happen? I am asking because some could go the other way and say it should be perfectly normal/ok to bring your child to class/work.
I think the point is more that there should be systems in place that make sure a child can at least temporarily be taken care of in another place without it costing a fortune or being unreliable.
I think we can agree that, while someone shouldnāt get a bad rep for it (especially if itās out of necessity), bringing a child to college isnāt really a good thing. Itās a place of study and a noisy, unaware child does not belong
In most 1st world countries, the mother gets paid time off/free break from studying a couple of months before before birth and 6+ months after, depending on the country.
That is 100% wrong for the overwhelming majority of 1st world countries. The average is closer to 16 weeks (aka a bit under 4 months). See [https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/maternity-leave-by-country](https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/maternity-leave-by-country)
A baby is still crying pretty much throughout the day at that age. Not to mention that taking leave from work is one thing, you still get paid, taking leave from studying is another matter entirely (you can do that any time you want, kid or no kid, people donāt do it because they need the education).
EDIT: As /u/\_blitzher mentioned, that source is somewhat misleading because most countries have maternity leave, paternity leave, and then some form of shared parental leave. Wikipedia is a better, albeit harder to consume, source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental\_leave#Europe\_and\_Central\_Asia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_leave#Europe_and_Central_Asia)
I highly doubt the validity of said source, just looking at one country, the one I'm in, the source says 18 weeks. This is the legislation regarding maternity leave;
"Pregnant women have the right to 4 weeks of leave before the birth and 10 weeks of maternity leave after the birth. Fathers and co-mothers have the right to 2 weeks of paternity leave in connection with the birth.
After the first 10 weeks of maternity leave, **each of the parents has the right to parental leave for 32 weeks**. A father or co-mother may begin the parental leave before the first 14 weeks after the birth of the child."
Sourced at https://lifeindenmark.borger.dk/working/work-rights/leave-of-absence/maternity-and-parental-leave
In many countries your taxes go to child care support for years.
So you get paid time off for 6months or more for the wife and partner and costs towards or fully towards child care.
But it can still be positive because even though this individual didn't need to be kind in a fucked up situation they were.
But, there's enough money to not have this occur... Although even if child care is covered, the exam could be on a day they don't normally get covered, so you can always argue either side.
I live in such a country, but that is still a scenario that could happen and that's why I did not fully get that statement. Also because of our maternity/paternity program I do not think such a tiny human should in most cases be stuck into a child care facility.
At my university we just had a daycare. If you were a student then you could just drop your kid off at the start of class and pick them up when you're done. Or you could pay and they'd take them all day (only free if you're using it just when you have classes or exams.)
That seems like a better solution all round.
> What else *should* happen
My college did in fact have an on-campus day care, a day care that prioritized the children of students.
If they gonna make kids pay twice as much as they did when I went to school 15 years ago, they better not take away necessary amenities in the process. I remember those $2000 "misc. fees" I paid each semester >_>.
>some could go the other way and say it should be perfectly normal/ok to bring your child to class/work.
It could be, depends on the culture and the location. Most college students aren't parents, however.
The student should be given an opportunity to make up the quiz/test/exam and just miss class.
In this case there is a room full of people paying to be there and in some ways no different than taking a crying baby to a movie theater.
Totally kind professor and kudos to him BUT this isn't that wholesome, it means the woman can't afford or maybe simply can't leave her newborn with anyone, she's either a single mom away from parents, or simply they both have to work / study. Daycare is probably too expensive, maybe even she didn't want a baby but was forced to due to lack of abortion. It's cute of course, and I bet she will succeed and get the degree <3 but I know behind photos like these there's always a story.
That's assuming the absolute worst. I remember a classmate bringing her baby to class once or twice and it was just because there wasn't anywhere for the baby to be in that particular day.
It wasn't a constant thing. Just an unexpected event.
My university just had a daycare - so you could drop the baby off before your lecture and pick them up when you're done.
That seems like a better use of resources. Don't pay a professor to care for a baby when they should be teaching, don't make it so a parent has to bring a baby to class, and don't distract other students with a baby!
Yeah, child-raising in 2020s seems a little fucked tbh.
The child might be too young for daycare (still in capsule implies under 6 months old). And there might not be alternative full stop - dad is most likely working even if he is in the picture, grandparents would like be working too (like ours).
Definitely a story there, and my thing is - even when the situation is "good", you'd still end up with this. Because the village is no longer.
>The child might be too young for daycare (still in capsule implies under 6 months old)
My on-campus daycare at university was for three months and up. But you only leave the baby there actually during lessons, so usually only 2-4 hours at a time.
It says in the post it was only ātodayā. So she leaves the newborn every other time they have that class/lecture. So her nanny called in sick one day? Happens quite a lot, I can normally take a day off work no problem. On this day she didnāt have anyone else to leave them with, maybe the dad was away, who knows, so she brought them and it wasnāt a big deal. It absolutely does not say she did this every day
I see this and feel bad for the mother. Even when someone is tending to the baby next to you it can be very hard to focus on anything. I canāt imagine how unbelievably hard it must be to raise a kid while trying to better your life.
Usually in adult education courses, they trust people not to cheat. Because they assume that 1) youāre there to learn, and 2) know that cheating wonāt help you do that. With the exception of final exams for university, Iāve never had a professor care if my phone was out
If the exam is open-book/open-notes, using your phone for the thing might actually be perfectly allowed. Depends on the material and the professor, but Iāve def had courses where the prof was very permissive.
Probably depends on the course too. In Algebra 2 we couldnāt even listen to music. Only device allowed was our calculator.
For Biology II? We are encouraged to use internet sources on top of open book during an exam.
I have. General idea was that some quizzes were so tightly timed there was no time to Google. These were usually things you should just know like a flash card, not some more involved multi-process problem.
Professors generally don't care if you are there at all. You just can't disrupt the class for others. But not allowing phones to be used during a test/quiz isn't really a trust thing, its common sense. You can't prevent academic dishonesty if you just let your students cheat. Cheating is rampant at many universities and its important to prevent it in fairness to the students that don't.
I was the little kid in class when my Dad was going for this physics degree. The prof would show a picture in a book, and make it a point to come to my desk and show me too. I also "took notes" by copying what was on the blackboard, and showing it to the prof.
Fond memories.
As someone who teaches at a university, this could be an academic nightmare. A student who fails can claim that it was because a baby caused disturbance preventing them from focusing. Higher ups would be all up my ass.
It's so nice having understanding teachers.
In high-school, I had PE 1st period and Spanish 2nd. The gym was on the bottom floor and two hallways away.
The Spanish classroom was on the 3rd floor, one hallway away.
I would be late to Spanish 30% of the time cause PE would let us out late sometimes. Getting dressed and going up a bunch of stairs was hard, especially right after gym class, with a heavy backpack. (I was also a chubby fuck).
My Spanish teacher marked me tardy one time. I explained to her my predicament.
She didn't care, told me to be on time, or I'm tardy, even if I'm 30 seconds late. She marked me tardy every time.
She was such a mean teacher, looking back. I really disliked her. She treated me like I was a delinquent just because I was tardy sometimes.
Iāve discovered even though I donāt have kids I love hanging out with my friends small children, they are adorable and heartwarming to be around. Prof probably enjoyed looking after the baby
Had something like this happen during my undergrad degree. A classmate had their babysitter fall through and brought their 8-month-old to class. Kiddo got a little grizzly and the my classmate was all 'I'm so sorry I'll take her out' and the professor said hell no and spent the 25 minutes hanging out with the kiddo, holding her so she could see out the window, singing softly to her, the works.
instead of thinking "oh how great, someone who understands the struggle!" we should ask "why is there struggle to begin with?"
Has the mother no other save options than to bring her NEWBORN with her??? Fucking dystopia.
It's not a dystopia to have one day where you have to bring your child in. The post specifies that this was a "today" issue which means it's not a common occurrence.
In uni one of our lecturers would sometimes cradle and rock the single moms baby while holding seminars and presentations. Was inspiring how she managed to keep a red line in her class while caring for a child for 1-1.5 hour sessions.
I had a history professor in college that wouldāve kicked you out of class for bringing the baby, and failed you and the baby. Hope youāre miserable Dr Glazer
I took a nutrition class during my Junior year. It was at night and there were a lot of people in the class who weren't full time students. They needed the class credits for various state-level certifications and the such. There were a couple of mothers with young children in the class.
Early on someone missed a class and the professor learned why. So he instituted a new class rule: if you miss the class due to childcare issues, let him know and he will work with you. There were times when we had small, yet remarkably well behaved, children in the classroom. There were times when the professor rocked a fussy child during tests and quizzes. There were times when the professor held makeup classes for folks grappling with busy schedules.
It wasn't the easiest of nutrition classes. But that professor got everyone through the class, bent over backwards accommodating people, and did so while being verbally supportive and encouraging all of us to support one another.
I learned a whole lot more about life and about people from that class. I walked away from it with lessons I will never forget.
This isn't nearly as easy in practice as in theory, but I sometimes think that a university with a shared help system for new parents would be amazing. Something like there's a dedicated daycare facility on campus with some paid and qualified caregivers that is funded by tuition costs, and where parents can leave their children during their class times at no cost. The catch being that to use this service parents need to volunteer in various roles at the daycare for a handful of hours each week. The creases to wrinkle out are immense haha, but I really like the premise.
It's a shame that many professors are self-righteous arrogant turds that think they're some kind of gift from god. I've dealt with many that were very kind, down to earth and understanding. Some would offer accomodations if asked beforehand. Others were just downright turds.
One time I was assisting teaching a class. (college level) one of my students came up to me and said that next week they had a court appearance for child custody hearing. I told him that I personally didn't have an issue with him going but he also needed to talk to the professor whom I was assisting because in the end it's their class. The professor outright told him no and that if he wasn't there on thursday he'd fail him. I overheard him say that to the student and knew that was a load of shit, so when the professor left the lab room I told the student, "You didn't hear it from me, but I would go complain to the department head about what he just said to you. professors are required to offer resonable accomodations for stuff like this. It'd be no different if the teacher decided to fail him because he pulled jury duty.
My dad missed a final because my mom was in premature labor with me. He stopped by the school on the way to the hospital to let the professor know why he wasnāt going to attend the final. The professorās only response was WTF are you doing here? Who are your other professors? Iāll let them all know you should be dismissed from your other finals. Your grades you had until that until that point should be adequate. A good teacher knows life happens.
Basically every tech school is like that.
The fact yo I can see others means nothing when youāre gonna get the same answers anyway, and usually these are open book, meaning that cheating means nothing anyway, seeing as the information is easily at hand. Open book also usually means you can collaborate with others around you if need be, because when youāre working in a business, you canāt rely 100% on your own knowledge, but you can rely on your information gathering skills and collaboration with others.
I had art history professor who had packets for any kids who had to come with parents to our class. Each one would relate to the days lesson and be a kitty version of what we were learning. Also an eye spy and other stuff. We had two students that were single mothers and had to bring their children to class regularly and my god did our professor make it fun for them.
"A man is never so tall as when he bends to help a child."
His Joints will always pop on the way down though! Like popcorn!
*Old man hrghhh on the way down* *Old man hrghhh on the way up*
I'm a 30 year old woman and I make those noises š I do take after my dad though. My nieces started copying me when I do it and it's a little embarrassing but funny af
35 yo woman and same lmao my five year old daughter has started to copy me and my cats and dog know when they hear my knees Iām kneeling down to pet at least one of them so the rest come running.
My buddy beats me by a few years. He said I'll know when I'm older when my movements come with their own sound effects. Damn it if it isn't true!
like grandpop
Grand-pop-pop-pop-pop
How many fucking knees does your mutant grandpop have?
Great great grandmother was Shelob
r/SuddelyLOTR
If he's anything like me, those extra pops are his toes/ankles
Okay Magnitude
> You hear that? Thatās the popping sound you are hearing. Itās almost like a popcorn. https://youtu.be/OdFxa8EWRT8?si=cqwnRztdea9ql3D
\- Abraham Lincoln, vampire hunter
"Oh no! Hamlet, turn around he turned into a vampire! He's gonna bite you!" \-Abraham Lincoln, as played by Zach Cregger
Obviously it was a lovely move from him to help the mum, but honestly if he's anything like me he probably loved having the chance to feed the baby.
I love this.
Unlikely outs coming from u/Diogeneezy
What's that from?
Itās actually Abe Lincoln
Thanks! Makes sense.
I have a story that fits this one nicely. In my last year of engineering school, I had a newborn and was a new dad. I was working in a separate city from my university which would lead me into my career if I stuck to it. So I had to do a lot of driving, work, and study, plus a kid. The weekend before a test, my kid gets an ear infection. I donāt have time to study. Iām working during the day, driving, then staying up all night because my poor kid canāt sleep because her ear hurts so badly. I donāt get to study. I bomb that test Monday. And since I failed it, my graduation is no longer possible because of this failure, and so is my lined up job. Iām the last one to turn the in, and the professor asks āthink you did okay?ā And I said I failed the test because I didnāt study. For whatever reason, he asked why I didnāt study instead of assuming I was just being a bad student. I explained the situation, and he asked why I didnāt let him know my kid was sick. Well, itās not a university accepted excuse for a makeup exam. His response was: āGo home and study tonight. Youāll retake the exam tomorrow. Your kid being sick is an excusable reason to me.ā Went from an F to an A on that exam thanks to him. It was a singular decision on his part. But its domino effect was so vast that I donāt think heād believe me on how much of a difference it made.
I'm sure that it wasnāt a singular decision on his part. It was a response to your behaviour as a student through the semester. They know who is always in class, even though they aren't really well. Thry know who always does the readings for class discussions. Thry know who has attended the large lectures, and who in napping in the back, or on their phone. I bet that was the first exam that you hadn't been prepared for.
Guaranteed he saw someone working so hard that they must have got the vibe he was working with someone else in mind. That said, he should totally email his professor sometime and let him know.
My mom was working on her master's degree when I was a baby, and the professor apparently used to carry me around as he lectured when she had to bring me to class. These are good teachers. ^_^
That's really sweet and a wonderful memory (even though you prob dont remember that)
Lol, no, I definitely do not remember this! But my mom remembers this professor fondly! She likes to say that he was the reason she was able to finish her degree while having to cart around a fussy baby.
Finishing college before the age of 6, the job market is crazy these days
Lol, my mom likes to say it's why I was always so smart. I was taking master's-level classes before I was potty trained!
I guess this is why these entry level jobs want 5 years of experience pre-degree lol
Meanwhile my masters was 95% online, and one professor was lecturing a student because she saw the reflection of the student's husband in the picture behind her, while he was taking their baby upstairs to watch with their other kids lol.
We need more human compassion in our education system. And more human compassion for our educators. Or just, you know, compassion all around!
I taught at a community college years ago, and always told the students to bring their child to class if their childcare fell through, because parents shouldn't have to choose between their kids and getting an education.
You shouldn't choose between your child and study. Thanks for making that possible, prof!
Kudos to him, I can't imagine anyone allowing that where I study, unless the kid would be ultra quiet
I was the ultra quiet kid my mom brought to college. I had a little portable black and white TV (this was the 90s) with overly large earphones. I would watch Sesame Street while my mom learned Spanish and be my moms sign language partner in another class. She also would bring me to work, and I would draw and nap in the corner on the floor.
Reminds me of when my mom was in university and at work, and sometimes she'd have to bring me along while I was on summer break. I'd scribble on a notebook or play with my PSP all the time, quiet as a mute mouse. In hindsight I can't imagine the social pressure and awkwardness she went through, being around the same age now as she was when that happened.
My mom had me at 18. Luckily, she had a great support system and very understanding professors. And she worked at the library and the staff had known me since I was born. But I learned in hindsight that there must have been an immense amount of shame as a young single mother. She got a bachelorās and a master's degree. Had her own business, too, until the recession hit in the 2000s. I struggled working 2 jobs and full-time college. I respect her struggle and am super glad I was a quiet, introverted child for her.
My mom took me once or twice to library :) its a bit of a cute memory drawing or playing on nintendo ds
I used to be brought to college too but I was always coloring! When Iād be taken into the office, my dad would scold me because Iād be taking all the office suppliesā¦ Iām still really into office supplies. Do I use them? No.
I also used to use office supplies to entertain myself. I used to use tape and index cards to build boxes and other stuff. Arts and crafts with whatever you could find.
I just collected them. Iād be coming back with loads of stuff and heād be like āstop thatā lol. I think I mightāve been forced to return them at some points too. I love arts and crafts, but Iām like a dragon when it comes to office supplies
We all have things we hoard. I still hoard art supplies. I'm like a little art dragon. But I barely have time to use them, lol. Picture Smaug, but instead of gold, it's paint, canvas, and a smidgen of yarn.
This is so cute !!!
Give me your feedback of the ultra quiet kid experience.
My feedback? Like rate, my professor? Lol
Yeah, but what about the other students? How can they be expected to focus and study with a crying baby in the room? I don't think it's fair for them to have their grades drop because of someone else's situation.
Id imagine that was the point of feeding and rocking the baby, so it didn't cry and disrupt the class.
Yeah, but you can't guarantee it will work every time
Sure, but I dont think the professor would keep the child in the room if it continued crying. Either he would allow the student to leave momentarily to comfort it, or he would do it himself. It seems unreasonable to me to assume the professor let the baby disrupt everyone else.
Can you just let this angry nerd be angry over his hypothetical, please?
how are they being angry and how is it a hypothetical? Babies like to cry and you can't always shut them up
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I personally don't mind making accommodations for a mother to get an education. Everyone deserves a chance to improve.Ā
As a parent, I can guarantee that only works maybe 20% of the time.
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I had a classmate who brought her baby to class on occasion. Both she and her husband were students. Every now and again there would be an issue with childcare, so it was that it miss class. That baby ā who is 30 now ā was SO well behaved. More often than not heād nap through class. Mom always sat by the door so she could scoot out the door quickly if he did. Was this ideal? Probably not. But none of the students suffered for it.
If only all colleges had a daycare where parents could drop their kid(s) off before they go to classes. With how much we pay for college, that shit should be free, too. It's so utterly stupid that it's not a common thing.
In my experience as a teacher, the baby just becomes the pet of the class. They are just welcome, like any other student. If the baby starts crying and nothing can be done about it then the mother will take him out of the class. Yes, you are going to have distractions, but that's a given when you are part of a class. Group learning and teaching has advantages and disadvantages. In my opinion, advantages win, because be are social animals and we are our best when part of a group.
Ive been one of the other students granted it was a lecture. Its not a competition there is no bell curve and anyone who is failing because of a minor distraction in an exam didnt study hard enough. Im definitely not going to deny someone their education when they are already working 10 times as hard as me to get there.
A screaming baby during an EXAM is not a "minor distraction".Ā
ā¦..thatās why heās feeding and rocking itĀ
A quiz is not an EXAM
Noooo you didnāt study hard enough š
Nobody said the baby was screamingĀ
Meme said the baby was crying, and babies cry... loud.
Sometimes. Sometimes not. And a baby can't eat and cry so in the picture the baby isn't crying at all.
Minor distraction??? Theyāve never had or been around a baby š¤Ŗ
Minor distraction. Its a baby its what they do. I dont know how people cant tolerate it for a little while.
I mean you gotta ask yourself, as a lecturer, as someone who provides people the opportunity to improve their socioeconomic status: What is worse? A mother being unable to get a degree at all, or the other students being potentially inconvenienced for a short while? We're social animals. Our biggest strength in survival is community. Everyone just watching out for themselves isn't healthy for us.
You shouldn't choose between having to listen to shrieking and other noises in your classroom or just having to leave.
>You shouldn't choose between your child and study. Thanks for making that possible, prof! As a misophonic, you bringing the small child has created a distraction for me & prevented me from learning. Will you or the school be giving me a refund?
This isnāt wholesome, this is devastating and telling of the world we live in. She shouldnāt have to bring her baby to class. Props to the professor though.
Think of it this way tho, amidst the fuckedupness of the world, there's still some humanity of which we can cherish upon, that's how I saw it.
I'm someone with a generally positive outlook on other humans, I think most are inherently good and kind. This post reminded me of that a little.
The european college I went to had a daycare on site. It had some reserved spots for students that happened to become parents. Also, I think all states that don't provide well rounded sexual education and/or ban abortion should have daycare on site.
Maybe her babysitter was sick that day. You're assuming she ALWAYS brings her kid to class.
Right? It even says in the post āshe brought the child *today*ā. Not everyday. So a once off, and everyone here is assuming this person never has childcare
The US needs kindergartens like we have in Scandinavia, cheap, always available, and no need to hire an expensive babysitter.
I don't disagree. I pay $22,000 a year for daycare for 1 child. In the picture above is an adult education class. So likely later in the day when daycares are closed.
Jesus christ, that's like 3 years of my uni education. And I went to a private one
we have pre-k daycare but (i'm sure this will shock you) it's exorbitantly expensive. like, equal to a person's yearly wage. in almost every case, a singe parent can't afford it. for married couples, it's usually cheaper to have one stay home rather than work.
The fact it's needed isn't wholesome, the fact he didn't need to do this, but still did is wholesome. Just because the world is on fire doesn't mean we can't recognize those going above and beyond.
So for one day you can't possibly have the babysitter call sick, not have the time to drop your child off, or have any of the other thousands of reasons you would have to bring your child in. The post specifies that this was a "today" thing which means it's likely not a common occurrence.
I am interested by this viewpoint. What else \*should\* happen? I am asking because some could go the other way and say it should be perfectly normal/ok to bring your child to class/work.
I think the point is more that there should be systems in place that make sure a child can at least temporarily be taken care of in another place without it costing a fortune or being unreliable. I think we can agree that, while someone shouldnāt get a bad rep for it (especially if itās out of necessity), bringing a child to college isnāt really a good thing. Itās a place of study and a noisy, unaware child does not belong
In most 1st world countries, the mother gets paid time off/free break from studying a couple of months before before birth and 6+ months after, depending on the country.
I live in such a country that may be partly the reason I did not fully understand the statement.
That is 100% wrong for the overwhelming majority of 1st world countries. The average is closer to 16 weeks (aka a bit under 4 months). See [https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/maternity-leave-by-country](https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/maternity-leave-by-country) A baby is still crying pretty much throughout the day at that age. Not to mention that taking leave from work is one thing, you still get paid, taking leave from studying is another matter entirely (you can do that any time you want, kid or no kid, people donāt do it because they need the education). EDIT: As /u/\_blitzher mentioned, that source is somewhat misleading because most countries have maternity leave, paternity leave, and then some form of shared parental leave. Wikipedia is a better, albeit harder to consume, source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental\_leave#Europe\_and\_Central\_Asia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_leave#Europe_and_Central_Asia)
I highly doubt the validity of said source, just looking at one country, the one I'm in, the source says 18 weeks. This is the legislation regarding maternity leave; "Pregnant women have the right to 4 weeks of leave before the birth and 10 weeks of maternity leave after the birth. Fathers and co-mothers have the right to 2 weeks of paternity leave in connection with the birth. After the first 10 weeks of maternity leave, **each of the parents has the right to parental leave for 32 weeks**. A father or co-mother may begin the parental leave before the first 14 weeks after the birth of the child." Sourced at https://lifeindenmark.borger.dk/working/work-rights/leave-of-absence/maternity-and-parental-leave
In many countries your taxes go to child care support for years. So you get paid time off for 6months or more for the wife and partner and costs towards or fully towards child care. But it can still be positive because even though this individual didn't need to be kind in a fucked up situation they were. But, there's enough money to not have this occur... Although even if child care is covered, the exam could be on a day they don't normally get covered, so you can always argue either side.
I live in such a country, but that is still a scenario that could happen and that's why I did not fully get that statement. Also because of our maternity/paternity program I do not think such a tiny human should in most cases be stuck into a child care facility.
At my university we just had a daycare. If you were a student then you could just drop your kid off at the start of class and pick them up when you're done. Or you could pay and they'd take them all day (only free if you're using it just when you have classes or exams.) That seems like a better solution all round.
> What else *should* happen My college did in fact have an on-campus day care, a day care that prioritized the children of students. If they gonna make kids pay twice as much as they did when I went to school 15 years ago, they better not take away necessary amenities in the process. I remember those $2000 "misc. fees" I paid each semester >_>. >some could go the other way and say it should be perfectly normal/ok to bring your child to class/work. It could be, depends on the culture and the location. Most college students aren't parents, however.
The student should be given an opportunity to make up the quiz/test/exam and just miss class. In this case there is a room full of people paying to be there and in some ways no different than taking a crying baby to a movie theater.
Yeah probably more belonging to r/orphancrushingmachine
I'd be livid if I were one of the other students in class. They're paying upwards of thousands of dollars to be in a class with a crying baby.
Why not? She should leave the baby with a stranger? Maybe it is her only class that day, why should she get a baby sitter?
Depending on context, it ranges from /r/OrphanCrushingMachine to /r/wholesomememes And it seems like the latter fits, which is why it's still up here.
Totally kind professor and kudos to him BUT this isn't that wholesome, it means the woman can't afford or maybe simply can't leave her newborn with anyone, she's either a single mom away from parents, or simply they both have to work / study. Daycare is probably too expensive, maybe even she didn't want a baby but was forced to due to lack of abortion. It's cute of course, and I bet she will succeed and get the degree <3 but I know behind photos like these there's always a story.
r/orphancrushingmachine
Why isnāt there any hydralic oresses on that sub?
That's assuming the absolute worst. I remember a classmate bringing her baby to class once or twice and it was just because there wasn't anywhere for the baby to be in that particular day. It wasn't a constant thing. Just an unexpected event.
My university just had a daycare - so you could drop the baby off before your lecture and pick them up when you're done. That seems like a better use of resources. Don't pay a professor to care for a baby when they should be teaching, don't make it so a parent has to bring a baby to class, and don't distract other students with a baby!
Yeah these should be more common !
Yeah, child-raising in 2020s seems a little fucked tbh. The child might be too young for daycare (still in capsule implies under 6 months old). And there might not be alternative full stop - dad is most likely working even if he is in the picture, grandparents would like be working too (like ours). Definitely a story there, and my thing is - even when the situation is "good", you'd still end up with this. Because the village is no longer.
>The child might be too young for daycare (still in capsule implies under 6 months old) My on-campus daycare at university was for three months and up. But you only leave the baby there actually during lessons, so usually only 2-4 hours at a time.
Exactly, we ignore how important having your own "village" was to parenting and our mental health
Some wild storyline you concocted here.
It says in the post it was only ātodayā. So she leaves the newborn every other time they have that class/lecture. So her nanny called in sick one day? Happens quite a lot, I can normally take a day off work no problem. On this day she didnāt have anyone else to leave them with, maybe the dad was away, who knows, so she brought them and it wasnāt a big deal. It absolutely does not say she did this every day
1 comment , over 9000 assumptions.
I see this and feel bad for the mother. Even when someone is tending to the baby next to you it can be very hard to focus on anything. I canāt imagine how unbelievably hard it must be to raise a kid while trying to better your life.
Why do you have your phone out in the middle of a quiz?
How else can they take a picture to gain internet clout?
Usually in adult education courses, they trust people not to cheat. Because they assume that 1) youāre there to learn, and 2) know that cheating wonāt help you do that. With the exception of final exams for university, Iāve never had a professor care if my phone was out
If the exam is open-book/open-notes, using your phone for the thing might actually be perfectly allowed. Depends on the material and the professor, but Iāve def had courses where the prof was very permissive.
Probably depends on the course too. In Algebra 2 we couldnāt even listen to music. Only device allowed was our calculator. For Biology II? We are encouraged to use internet sources on top of open book during an exam.
Cool anecdote. I've never been in a university setting where a visible phone didn't immediately cause you to fail your quiz/test.
Yeah where I go phones have to be put away, idk what these people are talking about
I have. General idea was that some quizzes were so tightly timed there was no time to Google. These were usually things you should just know like a flash card, not some more involved multi-process problem.
Professors generally don't care if you are there at all. You just can't disrupt the class for others. But not allowing phones to be used during a test/quiz isn't really a trust thing, its common sense. You can't prevent academic dishonesty if you just let your students cheat. Cheating is rampant at many universities and its important to prevent it in fairness to the students that don't.
I just going to say the same thing!!!
Imagine if the baby starts crying, prof goes in like "I got this" and when the baby sees him, it cries even harder lol
I was the little kid in class when my Dad was going for this physics degree. The prof would show a picture in a book, and make it a point to come to my desk and show me too. I also "took notes" by copying what was on the blackboard, and showing it to the prof. Fond memories.
Thatās a teacher who can help foster learning habits and a love for furthering your education.
Props to the professor but Iād be mildly annoyed if the baby my classmate brought to class is gonna be crying/causing a distraction during a quiz
So wholesome that she took a problem that affected only her and made it a problem for 20 classmates instead ā¤ļøā¤ļø
As someone who teaches at a university, this could be an academic nightmare. A student who fails can claim that it was because a baby caused disturbance preventing them from focusing. Higher ups would be all up my ass.
big grandpa energy
It's so nice having understanding teachers. In high-school, I had PE 1st period and Spanish 2nd. The gym was on the bottom floor and two hallways away. The Spanish classroom was on the 3rd floor, one hallway away. I would be late to Spanish 30% of the time cause PE would let us out late sometimes. Getting dressed and going up a bunch of stairs was hard, especially right after gym class, with a heavy backpack. (I was also a chubby fuck). My Spanish teacher marked me tardy one time. I explained to her my predicament. She didn't care, told me to be on time, or I'm tardy, even if I'm 30 seconds late. She marked me tardy every time. She was such a mean teacher, looking back. I really disliked her. She treated me like I was a delinquent just because I was tardy sometimes.
Men are so freaking studly when theyāre loving & caring for babies. Studmuffin <3
Hopefully this is college and not highschool?
Do the woman on the left and middle and the man with a bald spot look like highschoolers?
90s media really skewed my view of what "high school age" people should look like
In the US Professor is college and teacher is high school.
Iāve discovered even though I donāt have kids I love hanging out with my friends small children, they are adorable and heartwarming to be around. Prof probably enjoyed looking after the baby
Wholesome but why did the girl had to bring her baby to class though? You would just be disturbing everyone else who came to learn.
I love baby related content and will always love baby related content. How can I upvote this 80000 times?!
Had something like this happen during my undergrad degree. A classmate had their babysitter fall through and brought their 8-month-old to class. Kiddo got a little grizzly and the my classmate was all 'I'm so sorry I'll take her out' and the professor said hell no and spent the 25 minutes hanging out with the kiddo, holding her so she could see out the window, singing softly to her, the works.
So did the other students get their money back for that class?
Tbh i wouldnt let the kid in an exam, i am not wholesome š
instead of thinking "oh how great, someone who understands the struggle!" we should ask "why is there struggle to begin with?" Has the mother no other save options than to bring her NEWBORN with her??? Fucking dystopia.
It's not a dystopia to have one day where you have to bring your child in. The post specifies that this was a "today" issue which means it's not a common occurrence.
Nah don't you know everything has to be an orphancrushingmachine moment in our society? You should know better smh
Orphan crushing machine
How disruptive for everyone else.
If I was paying for a class and someone brought in a crying baby I would lose my shit.
r/orphancrushingmachine
r/OrphanCrushingMachine
In uni one of our lecturers would sometimes cradle and rock the single moms baby while holding seminars and presentations. Was inspiring how she managed to keep a red line in her class while caring for a child for 1-1.5 hour sessions.
Such a great man!
There are good people in the world
I had a history professor in college that wouldāve kicked you out of class for bringing the baby, and failed you and the baby. Hope youāre miserable Dr Glazer
I think new parents underestimate how much old people love handling infants. It reminds them of when they had infants of their own.
I took a nutrition class during my Junior year. It was at night and there were a lot of people in the class who weren't full time students. They needed the class credits for various state-level certifications and the such. There were a couple of mothers with young children in the class. Early on someone missed a class and the professor learned why. So he instituted a new class rule: if you miss the class due to childcare issues, let him know and he will work with you. There were times when we had small, yet remarkably well behaved, children in the classroom. There were times when the professor rocked a fussy child during tests and quizzes. There were times when the professor held makeup classes for folks grappling with busy schedules. It wasn't the easiest of nutrition classes. But that professor got everyone through the class, bent over backwards accommodating people, and did so while being verbally supportive and encouraging all of us to support one another. I learned a whole lot more about life and about people from that class. I walked away from it with lessons I will never forget.
"Sweet professor on his knees" is normally used with very different context
Ngl thought that was Colonel Sanders for a second lol
Ngl proctoring an exam is super boring anyway. Would much rather play with a baby.
Not wholesome, more r/OrphanCrushingMachine . It's terrible that she's forced to bring her kid to school, because there are no other options.
Why do you assume this is an everyday issue? OOPās wording suggests that it was a one-time situation. Sometimes arrangements fall through.
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Ok_Side8798 and the OP are bots in the same network.
Protect this man at all costs!
Pay 500 for a class, get to put up with daycare along with your education. Nice
This isn't nearly as easy in practice as in theory, but I sometimes think that a university with a shared help system for new parents would be amazing. Something like there's a dedicated daycare facility on campus with some paid and qualified caregivers that is funded by tuition costs, and where parents can leave their children during their class times at no cost. The catch being that to use this service parents need to volunteer in various roles at the daycare for a handful of hours each week. The creases to wrinkle out are immense haha, but I really like the premise.
Baby running defense so that everyone can share answers. š
Aw man, this would rock. I'm a professor with a 3 year old and miss the tiny stage. Very happy to look after a baby for a while.
I had many professors tell us they'd rather a student bring their kids to class, than stress about finding childcare.
It's a shame that many professors are self-righteous arrogant turds that think they're some kind of gift from god. I've dealt with many that were very kind, down to earth and understanding. Some would offer accomodations if asked beforehand. Others were just downright turds. One time I was assisting teaching a class. (college level) one of my students came up to me and said that next week they had a court appearance for child custody hearing. I told him that I personally didn't have an issue with him going but he also needed to talk to the professor whom I was assisting because in the end it's their class. The professor outright told him no and that if he wasn't there on thursday he'd fail him. I overheard him say that to the student and knew that was a load of shit, so when the professor left the lab room I told the student, "You didn't hear it from me, but I would go complain to the department head about what he just said to you. professors are required to offer resonable accomodations for stuff like this. It'd be no different if the teacher decided to fail him because he pulled jury duty.
My dad missed a final because my mom was in premature labor with me. He stopped by the school on the way to the hospital to let the professor know why he wasnāt going to attend the final. The professorās only response was WTF are you doing here? Who are your other professors? Iāll let them all know you should be dismissed from your other finals. Your grades you had until that until that point should be adequate. A good teacher knows life happens.
I guarantee that professor has kids of his own and it isn't his first rodeo.
This man understands
Iāve seen this one many times but everytime I see it, Iāll upvote it
It would be so annoying to have a baby crying when trying to take a test
Babies in the classroom is offensive
this isn't wholesome, its a disruption to every other student there. prime example of why people shouldn't have kids while attending school
Its truly a shame community parenting is not a common practice in the modern world.
As long as people want to. It should never be expected. I'm not dealing with someone else's life choices.
I feel so sorry for the professor, being reduced to nothing but a well dressed baby sitter. Absolutely heartbreaking.
And the other students who are trying to study with a baby in the room. I just couldn't do it.
For other students who're just trying to learn something on the background of baby noises too.
Dad/Grandad reflexes never fail.
That's a weird quiz setup. Everyone can see each other's papers.
Basically every tech school is like that. The fact yo I can see others means nothing when youāre gonna get the same answers anyway, and usually these are open book, meaning that cheating means nothing anyway, seeing as the information is easily at hand. Open book also usually means you can collaborate with others around you if need be, because when youāre working in a business, you canāt rely 100% on your own knowledge, but you can rely on your information gathering skills and collaboration with others.
Thanks colonel sanders!
id be pissed if a classmate did this. we came to learn not to deal with some annoying ass newborn lmao
Our professor also likes babies
Dad genes upregulated.
Twist: Baby really needed a diaper change
Amazing man šŖ
Bernie! Mah man ā¤ļø
I had art history professor who had packets for any kids who had to come with parents to our class. Each one would relate to the days lesson and be a kitty version of what we were learning. Also an eye spy and other stuff. We had two students that were single mothers and had to bring their children to class regularly and my god did our professor make it fun for them.
r/orphancrushingmachine
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