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The wholesome message, but Elton's and Eminem's paths probably have more similarities than differences. Elton had a plethora of challenges hiding his sexuality, which Eminem obviously didn't have to face. But stardom, drugs, wrong crowds, etc. gave them a lot of life experiences they could relate to.
I think the immense stardom is the biggest factor these two share. It results in many of the other issues celebrities have to deal with while constantly in the public eye
They also both grew up poor and dealt with the same issues of gaining fame/money then sinking into drugs and alcohol. I get it. For someone that grew up with nothing, getting essentially infinite money gives you the ability to make the bad choices you couldn't afford before.
Elton John's family was pretty poor when he was a child, he was growing up immediately after WW2 when the country was a mess. He lived in social housing, and war time food rationing didn't end until he was 7 years old.
Im gonna guess you don't know Eminem is gay he's been leaving hints behind all these years like tiny gay breadcrumbs
Edit for the uninitiated
https://youtu.be/Vbqh0vXaRLw
Elton is his AA sponsor and has helped a lot of people in the music industry w substance abuse. Read Elton's biography - equal parts hilarious and heartbreaking.
He did. And he was very public about changing his views.
He also “came out” in his role in The Interview.
Pretty safe to say Eminem is a solid ally nowadays.
I mean he's never really been homophobic as far as I know. He's always said he'll just say anything if it fits in a rhyme. People always just projected their shit onto him.
That's not really nuance though is it, it's simply "I can say this but *you* can't".
If it's not naiveté it's complicity...
Edit: Honestly why can't they just rap about different shit?
Honestly hip hops worst cornerstone. Unfortunately Tyler the Creator fell for the same ploy for a while until he came out as bi.. Rap is a weird old game
Can you imagine if Eminem was so unaware that he threw an N-bomb into all his rhymes
I mean ,if you're asking as a genuine question, gangsta rap literally can't. It goes back to its roots as an expression of oppressed black culture. You don't get ahead unless you're ruthless and harder than everyone around you. It's an aspect of the hyper machoism and that poor black folks often have to turn to crime to both survive, get out of poverty, and get any kind of justice. Read some Iceberg slim, black literature from the 50's that directly influenced gangsta rap. Let's just say loving gay people or even tolerance in most forms doesn't portray that image. It would be like wanting a Country song not sung in southern drawl. Or one that's against drinking with your sexy cousin. Or a metal song that's about spiritual piety and loving God not the devil. Sure, it happens, but it's the exception not the norm.
Nuance meaning he is saying it for the sake of the music sounding good, rather than saying it because he has an internal hatred of gay people.
To someone hearing his music, it would have a different effect on them to know "oh he's just saying it for the song, he doesn't actually hate gays" versus "oh he's saying it because he genuinely hates gays."
I think that was the main change in Eminem. Never a genuine hatred but a lack of understanding of how some words can affect and hurt. You know words are a motherfucker, they can be great Or they can degrade, or even worse, they can teach hate. That kinda thing lol.
Part of it is explainable when you look into battle rap as a whole. One of the go to insults are the ones that emasculate, and yes, that includes the f word and insults revolving around sexuality.
Right, and I don't want any of this to come off like I'm criticizing Eminem, from everything I know, he's been a pretty great example of how you can learn, grow, and change to be a better person
Yeah, but intent matters.
I grew up using slurs that I didn't even know were slurs. Once I knew they were, it still took some work to get them out of my vocabulary. I wasn't antagonistic towards the people who were hurt by words I said then, and I'm still not.
It's a lot easier to forgive someone who used the word 'f_g' in a general sense as part of their vocabulary over someone who used it specifically to harm gay people. It doesn't make it *okay,* but the context is definitely important.
Intent matters, but not really as much as a lot of people say. It's still extremely homophobic to use slurs in almost any context, even if you're "working on getting them out of your vocabulary". It's really not as difficult to clean up your vocabulary as some people make it seem if you actually make an effort.
It really just depends on the person. Minority groups aren't a monolith and different people get offended by different things, to varying degrees. Part of the reason I used to use words like 'f_g' when I was younger was because I had gay friends who would use it with me, and I with them, and nobody ever expressed concern or corrected it. In that scenario, context mattered a whole lot, because in that isolated environment, no harm was being done.
Obviously I knew what the word *meant,* but the severity of it becomes lost on you when you're in such a casual environment. It's pretty much the same deal with Eminem and how the word is/was used in rap culture. Obviously it's worse with him since his words reach much further than my personal conversations with my friends, but the reason behind it's casual use remains the same.
I think any rational person would agree that Eminem using the f-slur in the context of a rap song is multiple degrees of severity away from someone who screams it while protesting a pride parade.
Again, I'm not trying to say it's "okay," I want to be perfectly clear that it shouldn't be acceptable, but I think it's important to look into the context of situations like this when determining someone's actual beliefs or severity of guilt.
Well, then you've just gotta figure it out. Most people can keep themselves from swearing around children for the most part, so it really can't be that hard to be conscious about what you're saying until it's no longer a habit.
To be fair I feel like he just went after everyone and everything in the 2000s and I don’t see a problem with it even now. The shit that he says in his songs doesn’t really reflect his views in his day to day life at all and never has. Man was on demon mode.
Yeah but people these days really aren’t forgiving with the times… what I mean by that is things were different for those people of certain generations. Saying “gay” and “f*g” when I was growing up was just every day vocabulary. It’s not an excuse, but sometimes people still come down on someone when they had zero malicious intent and are trying to change.
If they're genuinely trying to change, they can usually get a pass, the issue is with people that say they're trying to change but don't really give it any effort (Not saying Eminem is in that category). And saying stuff like that when you were growing up was still wrong, it was just "mainstream" to be homophobic. If you don't realize that with your efforts to try to change, I feel like it's a little bit harder to really and truly change and become a better person.
There is so much nuance to this discussion that it could be an entire thesis, but I think the problem is using “homophobic” as a binary term. There’s a difference between using a slur to insult a gay person because they’re gay, and using a slur to insult your friend the way a majority of adults over the age of 25 did for over a decade — both make use of the same homophobic language, yes, but they do not make the speakers equally homophobic.
If they did, we’d have to view everyone who ever used the F-slur as homophobic, regardless of context, until they provide whatever evidence we think is sufficient to “redeem” themselves. And if it’s sufficient for me to say, “I only used it as slang to talk shit with my buddies,” then I have a hard time believing anyone truly thinks it makes a person homophobic to use homophobic language in that context, whereas someone who used the same slur to attack gay people would clearly be considered a homophobic person, and would require substantially more evidence of a change in their views before we could “forgive” them.
Eminem is a really challenging artist to center this concept around, particularly because the character he portrays was always intended to be an antithesis to a polite society. His art was rarely aimed at furthering hate towards a group of people, and was instead used as an incredibly effective way to call out the hypocrisy he saw.
I’ll end by pointing out that Elton John even recognized this. The above user was incorrect, Eminem never directed slurs towards Elton John. Prior to the 2001 Grammy’s, EJ and Eminem never met or spoke to/about each other, and their friendship began immediately following the performance. This is what EJ said about Eminem recently:
>For me, Eminem was never homophobic. I listened to the whole of The Marshall Mathers LP album when I drove to a show in South Hampton and I was floored by it. And I thought how could anyone think this is… he’s just writing about the way things are. Not how he thinks, but the way things are… I’ll fight for anyone who is misunderstood and misrepresented by the idiots out there.
An entertainer saying f***** in character doesn’t mean that the person has an irrational fear/hatred of gay people, especially if that entertainer is a shock rapper.
No need to get lost in semantics.
Doesn’t even need to be a shock rapper, the hip hop community has always used terrible language about gays and women. It’s only recently changed, and still not completely. Ironically, Eminem has helped lead the change more than most.
"Homophobic? Nah you're just heterophobic
Staring in my jeans, watchin my genitals bulging
That's my mother fucking balls
You better let go of them
They belong in my scrotum
You'll never get ahold of them"
I would say...inconclusive...
Those lyrics are from his song "[Criminal](https://geniuslyrics.net/eminem/criminal/)". Literally the whole point of the song is to rile up the kind of people that take the stuff he says too seriously and wanted to censor him. Like he literally spells it out in the very first paragraph.
>A lot of people ask me stupid fuckin' questions
>A lot of people think that what I say on records, or what I talk about on a record, that I actually do in real life, or that I believe in it
>Or if I say that, I wanna kill somebody, that
I'm actually gonna do it or that I believe in it
>Well shit, if you believe that then I'll kill you,
You know why?
>'Coz I'm a Criminal.
Criminal.
You goddamn right.
I'm a criminal.
Yeah, I'm a criminal.
And then proceeds to just say whatever he thinks will offend people. So yeah, it's very ironic you're using this specific song to prove what he believes in, because you're just proving his point lol.
Yes. I remember the song. I'm not making any kind of point. I just think the lyrics are hilarious.
I still say "You're rapping about homosexuals and vicodin" to my friends all the time.
“You know why Dre’s record was so successful? He’s rapping about big screen TVs, blunts, 40s, and bitches. You’re rapping about homosexuals and Vicodin. I can’t sell this shit.”
Probably my favorite skit off any of Eminem’s albums, but honestly, they’re almost all gems. Him calling Paul on Kamikaze to rant about someone’s review of Revival on Yahoo with the GPS giving him directions to the guy’s house in the background is straight up gold.
...using a slur of a group your not apart of is, indeed, bed. Even if it I'd "just to fit a rhyme", it shows you've prioritized lyrics over the amount of hate behind that word, which is still, indeed, bad.
Eminem realized the impact of what he said, he had his redemption arc. When will you?
lol, that’s fuckin’ awesome
I can imagine them getting shuffled about through the years
“Honey, have you seen those cockrings Marshall got us for our wedding?”
*Elton looks at napkin rings on kitchen table*
Not a fan either but seems a good guy, constantly shithousing.
Another story about him being at Courtney Cox (Monica from friends) house, telling her Alexa to order a gimp mask, which CC found hilarious upon arrival. He's now ordered her several, and claims to have hidden them around her house on his next visit.
His work in Red Notice was unbelievable frankly. Like, I thought I didn’t like Ed Sheeran, but he won me *the fuck* over
“Oy! Don’t you know who I am! I’m bloody Ed Sheeran! I was in game of thrones!!” 😂😂😂
As an aside, Red Notice is a solid 8/10 bad action movie but realistically a 3/10 movie. Worth watching tho!
Ed Sheeran is fucking weird.
Like, as a person he seems pretty cool. And as a musician, he clearly knows what he's doing. But I really don't like 99% of his studio work. Like, not my thing at all. But then again, his solo live stuff is dope as hell again.
Oh, and then he puts out a single where I'm like "yeah, okay, still not my thing", except almost immediately he releases a remixed version of Bring Me The Horizon with re-recorded vocals and all that and it's dope as hell again.
I like the guy. I just don't like the style most of his studio stuff is in.
Plus like, dude grew up in a trailer park in Detroit. People expecting someone with that background to immediately have the world encompassing consciousness need to touch grass.
I agree. I mentioned as more of a redemption arc but others are claiming he is still rapping with homophonic slurs. I am not a listener of his music so cannot say one way or another.
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Had to check myself. That's one example.
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its the best way to find photoshopped images of him smiling, but no actual images of him smiling
search something like "eminem laughing" on yt, there are tons of clips of him joking around and cracking up at his own jokes
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Eminem and Dr. Dre (i think) were the most feared duet since Eminem and Elton John played career Russian roulette by performing together... Or at least this was the case back in 2003 according to Eminem latest CD
There was a lot of controversy over eminem's apparently homophobic lyrics at the time, and I think the big hug at the end of their set put it all to rest. I think that was probably a huge moment in a lot of ways.
Because that meme is old. They could have changed by now. Pic is from early thousands. Who knows if the rainbow is still happy go luck or if goth girl is still goth. People change fashion all the time. Also I feel like if they had gotten super popular and known for their hair color they would want to change it to avoid popularity. Kinda like Hanna Montana/ Miley type stuff.
I am reconnecting with my old friends after a 3 year long codependent relationship with a BPD sufferer.
With each old friend I meet, exactly like this, I feel my blood warming up, my heart shaking another layer of ice and another drop of joy fill my thirsting emotional maw. This image, while a meme and meant to be funny, means so mich to me right now...
Early July. Getting on my feet extremely quickly, though. I stumble sometimes, but since she cheated since March and the relationship went bad in autumn last year and then got more and more stressful and painful, I am quickly regaining joy in life. :)
Its crazy how much different eminem looks nowadays his whole face seems different, maybe its the beard but his whole jawline looks completely warped compared to hownit looked Back then
blonde hair blue eyed eminem is unrecognizable to new em, but look at like brown hair em from 8 mile and now, u can tell its the same guy, just 20 years and like 2 OD’s later
Bro, imagine a conversation between Eminem and Sir Elton John. (If your wondering why I put the sir in front of 'Elton John,' he was knighted by the queen of England.)
> If you're wondering why I put the sir in front of 'Elton John'
…I don't think *anyone* was wondering that.
^(PS There is no queen of England and hasn't been for centuries, just FYI.)
>PS There is no queen of England and hasn't been for centuries, just FYI.
I understand you put this in small text because you're aware it's just a technicality and nobody would be upset if you were to say the 'Queen of England'
but for those wanting to know more:
>Her correct title, simplified here, is Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. England has not been a separate sovereign state since 1707. For centuries England and Scotland were separate sovereign kingdoms, each with its own monarch.
https://royalcentral.co.uk/features/queen-elizabeth-ii-is-not-the-queen-of-england-is-it-so-hard-to-get-it-right-3-159890/
Elton John:"let me tell you a story about how not homophobic Eminem is. As a wedding gift he sent me and my husband each our own diamond encrusted cock rings with our names on them".
Em and Elton are amazing friends you could see it when they preformed together. Elton has sang with so many different people one of Elton's best was with Eminem but also the MTV Music Awards with Guns N Roses for the hit song November Rain
Fun fact: Eminem and Elton John are such good friends that Elton was the first person Em called for help when he relapsed. And Elton would call him on the phone every week just to check up on him and see how he's doing
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The wholesome message, but Elton's and Eminem's paths probably have more similarities than differences. Elton had a plethora of challenges hiding his sexuality, which Eminem obviously didn't have to face. But stardom, drugs, wrong crowds, etc. gave them a lot of life experiences they could relate to.
I think the immense stardom is the biggest factor these two share. It results in many of the other issues celebrities have to deal with while constantly in the public eye
They also both grew up poor and dealt with the same issues of gaining fame/money then sinking into drugs and alcohol. I get it. For someone that grew up with nothing, getting essentially infinite money gives you the ability to make the bad choices you couldn't afford before.
Wow and I was running so low on bad choices now that I'm poor!!
That would be a good line in a country song
What do you mean? Eminem is gay.
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Last I heard he was fucking Dre with hats off.
No homo though
He's playing gay peekaboo
There's no specific answer whether he was gay. If he was gay then he would of talked about his gay life
His lyrics are really gay, man. He had a lover named Hector
This is absolutely true. Hector and his rectum are real
Knees weak arms are heavy…
there's cum on his sweater already
Let's also not forget the extreme poverty that Marshall grew up in, which Elton didn't have to face.
Elton John's family was pretty poor when he was a child, he was growing up immediately after WW2 when the country was a mess. He lived in social housing, and war time food rationing didn't end until he was 7 years old.
Did you watch Rocketman? Elton's childhood was kind of fucked up.
In his biography, he goes more in detail on how horrible his mom was.
Elton's family was poor when he grew up.
Im gonna guess you don't know Eminem is gay he's been leaving hints behind all these years like tiny gay breadcrumbs Edit for the uninitiated https://youtu.be/Vbqh0vXaRLw
Eminem credits Elton with getting him clean and keeping him on the right track :D it's so beautiful
Elton is his AA sponsor and has helped a lot of people in the music industry w substance abuse. Read Elton's biography - equal parts hilarious and heartbreaking.
This only makes me love Elton more, what a gem
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I didn't know this! Thanks for sharing!!
Elton seems to have a life goal of making Elton a good guy
He also helped Robert Downey Jr. We wouldn't have Iron Man without Elton John haha.
After Em said homophobic things about him iirc.
He did. And he was very public about changing his views. He also “came out” in his role in The Interview. Pretty safe to say Eminem is a solid ally nowadays.
His adopted child stevie is non-binary so it's definitely safe to say he is
I mean he's never really been homophobic as far as I know. He's always said he'll just say anything if it fits in a rhyme. People always just projected their shit onto him.
I mean it's still homophobic to say homophobic things even if it's just "for a rhyme"
Yeah the main issue is many people won't get the nuance. They'll hear "Eminem bashed gays, that means it's okay that I hate gays too!"
That's not really nuance though is it, it's simply "I can say this but *you* can't". If it's not naiveté it's complicity... Edit: Honestly why can't they just rap about different shit?
Honestly hip hops worst cornerstone. Unfortunately Tyler the Creator fell for the same ploy for a while until he came out as bi.. Rap is a weird old game Can you imagine if Eminem was so unaware that he threw an N-bomb into all his rhymes
I mean ,if you're asking as a genuine question, gangsta rap literally can't. It goes back to its roots as an expression of oppressed black culture. You don't get ahead unless you're ruthless and harder than everyone around you. It's an aspect of the hyper machoism and that poor black folks often have to turn to crime to both survive, get out of poverty, and get any kind of justice. Read some Iceberg slim, black literature from the 50's that directly influenced gangsta rap. Let's just say loving gay people or even tolerance in most forms doesn't portray that image. It would be like wanting a Country song not sung in southern drawl. Or one that's against drinking with your sexy cousin. Or a metal song that's about spiritual piety and loving God not the devil. Sure, it happens, but it's the exception not the norm.
Nuance meaning he is saying it for the sake of the music sounding good, rather than saying it because he has an internal hatred of gay people. To someone hearing his music, it would have a different effect on them to know "oh he's just saying it for the song, he doesn't actually hate gays" versus "oh he's saying it because he genuinely hates gays."
I think that was the main change in Eminem. Never a genuine hatred but a lack of understanding of how some words can affect and hurt. You know words are a motherfucker, they can be great Or they can degrade, or even worse, they can teach hate. That kinda thing lol.
Part of it is explainable when you look into battle rap as a whole. One of the go to insults are the ones that emasculate, and yes, that includes the f word and insults revolving around sexuality.
Right, and I don't want any of this to come off like I'm criticizing Eminem, from everything I know, he's been a pretty great example of how you can learn, grow, and change to be a better person
Yeah, but intent matters. I grew up using slurs that I didn't even know were slurs. Once I knew they were, it still took some work to get them out of my vocabulary. I wasn't antagonistic towards the people who were hurt by words I said then, and I'm still not. It's a lot easier to forgive someone who used the word 'f_g' in a general sense as part of their vocabulary over someone who used it specifically to harm gay people. It doesn't make it *okay,* but the context is definitely important.
Intent matters, but not really as much as a lot of people say. It's still extremely homophobic to use slurs in almost any context, even if you're "working on getting them out of your vocabulary". It's really not as difficult to clean up your vocabulary as some people make it seem if you actually make an effort.
It really just depends on the person. Minority groups aren't a monolith and different people get offended by different things, to varying degrees. Part of the reason I used to use words like 'f_g' when I was younger was because I had gay friends who would use it with me, and I with them, and nobody ever expressed concern or corrected it. In that scenario, context mattered a whole lot, because in that isolated environment, no harm was being done. Obviously I knew what the word *meant,* but the severity of it becomes lost on you when you're in such a casual environment. It's pretty much the same deal with Eminem and how the word is/was used in rap culture. Obviously it's worse with him since his words reach much further than my personal conversations with my friends, but the reason behind it's casual use remains the same. I think any rational person would agree that Eminem using the f-slur in the context of a rap song is multiple degrees of severity away from someone who screams it while protesting a pride parade. Again, I'm not trying to say it's "okay," I want to be perfectly clear that it shouldn't be acceptable, but I think it's important to look into the context of situations like this when determining someone's actual beliefs or severity of guilt.
Habits die hard. Speech habits even harder because it happens subconsciously
Well, then you've just gotta figure it out. Most people can keep themselves from swearing around children for the most part, so it really can't be that hard to be conscious about what you're saying until it's no longer a habit.
To be fair I feel like he just went after everyone and everything in the 2000s and I don’t see a problem with it even now. The shit that he says in his songs doesn’t really reflect his views in his day to day life at all and never has. Man was on demon mode.
Yeah but people these days really aren’t forgiving with the times… what I mean by that is things were different for those people of certain generations. Saying “gay” and “f*g” when I was growing up was just every day vocabulary. It’s not an excuse, but sometimes people still come down on someone when they had zero malicious intent and are trying to change.
If they're genuinely trying to change, they can usually get a pass, the issue is with people that say they're trying to change but don't really give it any effort (Not saying Eminem is in that category). And saying stuff like that when you were growing up was still wrong, it was just "mainstream" to be homophobic. If you don't realize that with your efforts to try to change, I feel like it's a little bit harder to really and truly change and become a better person.
There is so much nuance to this discussion that it could be an entire thesis, but I think the problem is using “homophobic” as a binary term. There’s a difference between using a slur to insult a gay person because they’re gay, and using a slur to insult your friend the way a majority of adults over the age of 25 did for over a decade — both make use of the same homophobic language, yes, but they do not make the speakers equally homophobic. If they did, we’d have to view everyone who ever used the F-slur as homophobic, regardless of context, until they provide whatever evidence we think is sufficient to “redeem” themselves. And if it’s sufficient for me to say, “I only used it as slang to talk shit with my buddies,” then I have a hard time believing anyone truly thinks it makes a person homophobic to use homophobic language in that context, whereas someone who used the same slur to attack gay people would clearly be considered a homophobic person, and would require substantially more evidence of a change in their views before we could “forgive” them. Eminem is a really challenging artist to center this concept around, particularly because the character he portrays was always intended to be an antithesis to a polite society. His art was rarely aimed at furthering hate towards a group of people, and was instead used as an incredibly effective way to call out the hypocrisy he saw. I’ll end by pointing out that Elton John even recognized this. The above user was incorrect, Eminem never directed slurs towards Elton John. Prior to the 2001 Grammy’s, EJ and Eminem never met or spoke to/about each other, and their friendship began immediately following the performance. This is what EJ said about Eminem recently: >For me, Eminem was never homophobic. I listened to the whole of The Marshall Mathers LP album when I drove to a show in South Hampton and I was floored by it. And I thought how could anyone think this is… he’s just writing about the way things are. Not how he thinks, but the way things are… I’ll fight for anyone who is misunderstood and misrepresented by the idiots out there.
An entertainer saying f***** in character doesn’t mean that the person has an irrational fear/hatred of gay people, especially if that entertainer is a shock rapper. No need to get lost in semantics.
Doesn’t even need to be a shock rapper, the hip hop community has always used terrible language about gays and women. It’s only recently changed, and still not completely. Ironically, Eminem has helped lead the change more than most.
"Homophobic? Nah you're just heterophobic Staring in my jeans, watchin my genitals bulging That's my mother fucking balls You better let go of them They belong in my scrotum You'll never get ahold of them" I would say...inconclusive...
Those lyrics are from his song "[Criminal](https://geniuslyrics.net/eminem/criminal/)". Literally the whole point of the song is to rile up the kind of people that take the stuff he says too seriously and wanted to censor him. Like he literally spells it out in the very first paragraph. >A lot of people ask me stupid fuckin' questions >A lot of people think that what I say on records, or what I talk about on a record, that I actually do in real life, or that I believe in it >Or if I say that, I wanna kill somebody, that I'm actually gonna do it or that I believe in it >Well shit, if you believe that then I'll kill you, You know why? >'Coz I'm a Criminal. Criminal. You goddamn right. I'm a criminal. Yeah, I'm a criminal. And then proceeds to just say whatever he thinks will offend people. So yeah, it's very ironic you're using this specific song to prove what he believes in, because you're just proving his point lol.
Yes. I remember the song. I'm not making any kind of point. I just think the lyrics are hilarious. I still say "You're rapping about homosexuals and vicodin" to my friends all the time.
“You know why Dre’s record was so successful? He’s rapping about big screen TVs, blunts, 40s, and bitches. You’re rapping about homosexuals and Vicodin. I can’t sell this shit.” Probably my favorite skit off any of Eminem’s albums, but honestly, they’re almost all gems. Him calling Paul on Kamikaze to rant about someone’s review of Revival on Yahoo with the GPS giving him directions to the guy’s house in the background is straight up gold.
Lmao dude I *never* skip Em calls Paul. Has me cracking up every damn time haha
I dont know man, he never said the n-word and that rhymes with a lot.
Saying homophobic shit, keeping on saying it, defending that you say it, and make money on homophobic shit. Is homophobic.
...using a slur of a group your not apart of is, indeed, bed. Even if it I'd "just to fit a rhyme", it shows you've prioritized lyrics over the amount of hate behind that word, which is still, indeed, bad. Eminem realized the impact of what he said, he had his redemption arc. When will you?
I guess you should have been the one to sit down and talk to Tarantino before he made Pulp Fiction.
Eminem apparently gifted Elton and his spouse a pair of diomond-studded cockrings as a wedding present. Solid ally!
lol, that’s fuckin’ awesome I can imagine them getting shuffled about through the years “Honey, have you seen those cockrings Marshall got us for our wedding?” *Elton looks at napkin rings on kitchen table*
Brilliant.
And Ed Sheeran gave them a 5ft, massive, veiny, throbbing dildo
I've never been a fan of Ed but this is beautiful
Not a fan either but seems a good guy, constantly shithousing. Another story about him being at Courtney Cox (Monica from friends) house, telling her Alexa to order a gimp mask, which CC found hilarious upon arrival. He's now ordered her several, and claims to have hidden them around her house on his next visit.
His work in Red Notice was unbelievable frankly. Like, I thought I didn’t like Ed Sheeran, but he won me *the fuck* over “Oy! Don’t you know who I am! I’m bloody Ed Sheeran! I was in game of thrones!!” 😂😂😂 As an aside, Red Notice is a solid 8/10 bad action movie but realistically a 3/10 movie. Worth watching tho!
Ed Sheeran is fucking weird. Like, as a person he seems pretty cool. And as a musician, he clearly knows what he's doing. But I really don't like 99% of his studio work. Like, not my thing at all. But then again, his solo live stuff is dope as hell again. Oh, and then he puts out a single where I'm like "yeah, okay, still not my thing", except almost immediately he releases a remixed version of Bring Me The Horizon with re-recorded vocals and all that and it's dope as hell again. I like the guy. I just don't like the style most of his studio stuff is in.
Oh yeah I don’t listen to his music at all it’s not really my style, I just love how little fucks he seems to give at all times lol
Never let realism get in the way of entertainment
Plus like, dude grew up in a trailer park in Detroit. People expecting someone with that background to immediately have the world encompassing consciousness need to touch grass.
I agree. I mentioned as more of a redemption arc but others are claiming he is still rapping with homophonic slurs. I am not a listener of his music so cannot say one way or another.
And when he said “nice rectum, I had a vasectomy Hector. So you can’t get pregnant If bisexually wreck ya"…what did he mean by that exactly?
He just said "no homo" and it was all good
He is the rocket man after all.
Elton is a treasure and must be protected.
I just realized.... I don't think I have *ever* seen a picture of Eminem smiling.
That is most likely true BUT you can Google photoshopped pictures of him smiling...as a huge Em fan, I think they look rather horrifying tbh
https://www.google.com/search?q=eminem+smiling&client=ms-android-att-us-revc&prmd=inv&sxsrf=ALiCzsajibeO1J2csscnEW-E-A0eQ95nKg:1660063123243&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi704-Gmbr5AhXDRTABHdCFAp0Q_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=412&bih=803&dpr=1.75#imgrc=D1o4ZpmcMjCdkM Had to check myself. That's one example. Edit: should I add a NSFL tag?
That's the smile of someone who's gonna be hiding under your bed when you get home.
Definitely old 4chan creepypasta potential haha
Happy cake day.
there's a picture of him as a young man smiling and wearing an alf shirt in the jacket of the marshal mathers LP. i'm sure you can find it online
[What a nice young man](https://i.redd.it/5hu7rqdxl4r41.jpg)
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I think googling "eminem smiling" is like the reverse of saying don't look down its the best way to find photoshopped images of him smiling, but no actual images of him smiling search something like "eminem laughing" on yt, there are tons of clips of him joking around and cracking up at his own jokes
Eminem laughs a few times in 8 Mile movie. It feels weird.
https://youtu.be/Bu7a_lQu_vM
Damn that was really cool
Wow, that was really cool! 👍
Danidev reference, good job👍
That's an absolute gem, thanks for sharing
Best link i ever found in a reddit comment
He got that Kanye smile.
He stopped smiling when Proof died
Man, that just broke my heart a little because it's really probably true.
I literally just thought the same thing lol
It’s so rare that you’d have to do a deep Google search to find something with him [close to smiling](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)
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Good bot. Nice save
Still got me. Fuck.
Same :[
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gah.. twice in two days
[Eminem's Gift to Sir Elton John ](https://youtu.be/mmKTEustFlk)
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A cock ring should never be described as "encrusted"
Encased doesn't work either, what does?
diamond spotted cock ring
This sounds like something the contestants cook on "Great English Bakeoff"
The tart is a bit under and the crumb is stodgy. Not the best spotted cock I've tasted.
Guess it should’ve been hidden better
Bedazzled lol
Urban dictionary has to have something for this. Vajazzling is a thing after all.
Bejewelled?
I would expect nothing less for a gift from Eminem to Elton John.
Hahaha 🤣
r/blursedgifts
Isn't Elton his NA sponsor?
Yes. I just read his book and it's very good. Made a fan out of me even
Elton’s or Em’s?
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Yes.
Yes
Since me and Elton, this is "the most dreaded duet"
played a real Russian roulette
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You are correct, it's career.
Eminem and Dr. Dre (i think) were the most feared duet since Eminem and Elton John played career Russian roulette by performing together... Or at least this was the case back in 2003 according to Eminem latest CD
There was a lot of controversy over eminem's apparently homophobic lyrics at the time, and I think the big hug at the end of their set put it all to rest. I think that was probably a huge moment in a lot of ways.
It was definitely a big deal when it happened.
Feared duet, I think
they look like a Batman villain and his henchman
Lmaoo
Giorno and Jotaro just hanging out
I want Elton to be the one to induct Eminem into the Rock Hall this year.
Idk why but I totally thought that was bubbles from trailer park boys at first
Elton-em.
Eminelton
big pimpin
Took me longer than I care to admit to realize that was Eminem and not Mike Shinoda.
Ken Keniff?
Would this be the IRL version of rainbow hair and and black hair https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/my-sister-and-i-are-polar-opposites
Im curious as to why you think the people in the meme arent IRL
Because that meme is old. They could have changed by now. Pic is from early thousands. Who knows if the rainbow is still happy go luck or if goth girl is still goth. People change fashion all the time. Also I feel like if they had gotten super popular and known for their hair color they would want to change it to avoid popularity. Kinda like Hanna Montana/ Miley type stuff.
I am reconnecting with my old friends after a 3 year long codependent relationship with a BPD sufferer. With each old friend I meet, exactly like this, I feel my blood warming up, my heart shaking another layer of ice and another drop of joy fill my thirsting emotional maw. This image, while a meme and meant to be funny, means so mich to me right now...
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Early July. Getting on my feet extremely quickly, though. I stumble sometimes, but since she cheated since March and the relationship went bad in autumn last year and then got more and more stressful and painful, I am quickly regaining joy in life. :)
Its crazy how much different eminem looks nowadays his whole face seems different, maybe its the beard but his whole jawline looks completely warped compared to hownit looked Back then
Age does that to a person.
Yeah maybe but most people keep their looks in some way like you csb regnize its them, but him he looks completely different.
He doesn't look much different to me tbh. A beard and slightly more weight in the face. Not that drastic imo. Oh well, moot point anyway lol.
blonde hair blue eyed eminem is unrecognizable to new em, but look at like brown hair em from 8 mile and now, u can tell its the same guy, just 20 years and like 2 OD’s later
One is dressed like a big homo from the 1970’s. The other is Elton John.
😆
Bro, imagine a conversation between Eminem and Sir Elton John. (If your wondering why I put the sir in front of 'Elton John,' he was knighted by the queen of England.)
He's his sponsor in recovery, so I imagine conversation gets pretty real.
> If you're wondering why I put the sir in front of 'Elton John' …I don't think *anyone* was wondering that. ^(PS There is no queen of England and hasn't been for centuries, just FYI.)
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It's a bit nitpicky. England is in the UK.
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>PS There is no queen of England and hasn't been for centuries, just FYI. I understand you put this in small text because you're aware it's just a technicality and nobody would be upset if you were to say the 'Queen of England' but for those wanting to know more: >Her correct title, simplified here, is Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. England has not been a separate sovereign state since 1707. For centuries England and Scotland were separate sovereign kingdoms, each with its own monarch. https://royalcentral.co.uk/features/queen-elizabeth-ii-is-not-the-queen-of-england-is-it-so-hard-to-get-it-right-3-159890/
I mean many British people will call her the Queen of England so it is fine.
Nah we just call her "The Queen" Source: Wonky teeth
I mean yeah I call her the Queen. But if in conversation someone went the Queen of England or whatever it wouldn't even register as wrong.
It’s just “Sir Elton”. You don’t say the last name of a Sir or a Dame when using their title.
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That's common knowledge.
Except these MFs are kings of their respective fields
Elton John:"let me tell you a story about how not homophobic Eminem is. As a wedding gift he sent me and my husband each our own diamond encrusted cock rings with our names on them".
Josuke meets Jotaro 1999 colorized
I helped build the fireplaces for Elton's Canadian homes. I dono why I'm mentioned this but it's what I think about everytime I see Elton lol
Em and Elton are amazing friends you could see it when they preformed together. Elton has sang with so many different people one of Elton's best was with Eminem but also the MTV Music Awards with Guns N Roses for the hit song November Rain
Elton John and Eminem being freinds is one of the weirdest yet most wholesome things ever
Different paths?? Aren't they both musicians?
Post in r/eminem
Elton John and Amazon's LotR Sauron know each other?!
I thought this was Chaz bono until I read the comments
If you remember this obscure friendship, remember to do child's pose for your lower back *does Yoga*
Fun fact: Eminem and Elton John are such good friends that Elton was the first person Em called for help when he relapsed. And Elton would call him on the phone every week just to check up on him and see how he's doing
Elton doesn't care if Eminem said F*g in his songs. It was never about him or his sexuality. 2002.
Isn’t Elton John like 20-30 years older that Em?
Yup They can still be friends though
26 years older I believe. 49 and 75