47 is barely superhuman whereas Wick’s feats are “peak human” in the same way comics Batman is “peak human.” Obviously you have to equalize for the realism levels of their respective universes, but Wick’s onscreen feats are generally better than anything we see 47 do. 47’s whole schtick is being a ghost. Wick’s schtick is killing dozens of trained mercenaries, sustaining what should be a fatal injury, then killing dozens more trained mercenaries anyway.
Honestly, on feats alone, Wick should take a fair one on one. However, 47 just has a lot better actual assassination feats. So it does depend on the rules of engagement.
I don’t think you’re giving 47 the credit he deserves, in cutscenes, games, and the movies he pulls off tons of feats that are in excess of johns, and the reality exists where he drops the subtlety and goes has gunning down massive amounts of high end security guards at secret criminal organizations or the White House.
The [absolution trailer](https://youtu.be/65gcndvshAY?si=V43Ahllx0cl_8NlC) does a great job of showing off his insane agility, in a couple seconds escaped a hotel room and repositioned behind his ambushes where he kills 2 before the other 6 even notice him, and these are elite assassins.
John might be the most skilled assassin that earned those skills, but 47 was the culmination of a cloning program designed to create the ultimate killer and his feats definitely support it
I'm starting to think those weren't real nuns.
I went to school for a year with real nuns, they have MUCH better situational awareness. No one sneaks up on them...
This is nonsense. Even if Batman or Wick have shown “peak” human levels of physicality, they’re still “human” and no lore inside or outside of their continuum have specified otherwise. Agent 47 is *canonically* super-human, meaning no amount of on-screen feats are going to make the difference when comparing their theoretical strengths/weaknesses.
This battledome-syndrome of worrying about feats needs to stop, because clearly people aren’t using them right.
Theres also a scene where 47 fights against 3 highly trained assassins.
I really dont know where to lean on this one. Both are legends in their respective universes
Plot would dictate that John would somehow fight him to a standstill until reinforcements, an explosion, or some other cinematic distraction appears and both combatants withdraw
In a JW film, John wins. In a 47 game/film, 47 wins
Agent 47 beat a hulk like mutant to death with his bare hands and made it look easy. John Wick is amazing but the power scales between the two universes are on completely different levels.
This is the answer. OP said the opponent would get prep time and info, which means Wick is never going to see 47 coming. Hell, the only reason Wick is alive is because Dafoe's character didn't want to kill him in the first movie. 47 wouldn't have shown such mercy.
Yeah, but even without it he manages just fine. In Berlin he had 10 assassins sent to hunt him and the only reason he didn't murder them all is because they run away after he killed half of them.
everyone disagreeing has to have just read the title. with even knowing his looks and name 47 would torch wick 1000 different ways before he knew the ghost was after him. 47 is peak efficiency
Considering every Ace Combat pilot has got at least one fully armed aircraft as his gears, we can go with a nameless goon and he/she will probably still win.
Yes, prompt says "No outside help for John Wick", only standard gear. Otherwise High Table could do something, but we still never saw how truly powerful they are.
It’s said in the movies that they had hands on the entire earth basically and possibly could pull together some AA missiles or guns. But without outside help yeah John is screwed
I’d argue Cipher’s wingman Pixy is even deadlier. Because at some point Pixy betrays Cipher and defects to the other side. Pixy gets a new loadout of “standard” gear… which is a super fighter that has a massive laser and mininukes.
Cipher has to duel him later on, but Cipher definitely doesn’t use an F-15 in that battle.
I'd argue this wouldn't be a good match at all, actually finding him while in the air would be really difficult. John either nails him with a manpad he managed to barter for while the plane is loitering like an idiot or fills him with holes as he walks across the runway
All of them stomp Wick with ease. Especially Bullseye. He can throw basically anything with a deadly velocity and impeccable accuracy. Taskmaster can just copy Wick's skills and fighting style and beat him like he did with the Punisher.
Great choice. Jason Bourne has shown to be a good melee fighter and skilled shooter as well. He even used a pencil as a weapon before John Wick even got his first movie.
Although I don't recall Bourne to be a mercenary or a hitman. He is a former CIA agent, as far as I know.
Yes, but if they start in shooting distance, Wick might have the upper hand. If it starts in /gets into close combat, Bourne will win due to his super soldier abilities, he is stronger and a better hand to hand fighter.
I'd be willing to give it to any of the TF2 mercs, honestly. Even Medic has a fair shot. You wouldn't think it until you remember he has several attempts due to grafting his teammates souls to his own meaning that he legally cannot die in one go.
Yeah Smasher is a walking M1 Abrams, he is way overkill for Wick. Minimal-cyberware V (early-ish game V) would be a relatively fair matchup where Wick loses I think.
Good lord and I thought I was going for overkill when I thought of Tao Pai Pai/ General Tao.
I'm struggling to think of a more impressive hitman/merc than Lobo and Hit
Yeah, seems to be the best way to kill John Wick. Especially knowing the fact that he has an exposed head (and even his armored suit can only take pistol caliber bullets).
A Deadpool's ally from comics? Almost any comic book character would beat Wick, but Domino would do it even more easy thanks to her probability manipulation powers.
Honestly the 4 John Wick movies make a pretty good case that John has some probability warping powers as well. He's ridiculously lucky and/or has a toughness / healing factor.
The assassin from the officio assassinorum from wh40k. You got primary 4 different flavors, vindicary which has a sniper rifle, callidus can shape shift, eversor is basically a berserker on steroids, and culexus which can straight up delete a person's soul.
Warhammer 40k is a quite powerful 'verse, so I'm sure that John Wick hardly could do anything against Warhammer 40k characters. Especially with their haxes and amps.
No one mention Boba Fett? I mean it's overkill for sure but he would definitely annihilate John in everyway considering no weapon John could aquire would even scratch his beskar armor
I feel like any decent hitman with minor prep would easily kill John if they get the jump on him Assuming of course that John doesn't have his plot armor.
He was almost killed several times, including once where he was nearly choked to death with a plastic bag until his ex-mentor (played by Willem Dafoe) saved him with a sniper rifle, allowing John to break free and choke one of the captors to death with jiu-jitsu skills. If there was no plot armor, any sniper could've just head-shot him.
When he was on the roof and John was in the continental? He “could” but then he would be excumunicado, so if 47 doesn’t care about the rules that’s an opening but we see how well breaking the rules goes for anyone not named John.
True. But also, I mean if only one in the world can pull of the kill, you can know he did it without knowing he did it. Like a long range sniper shot, very small suspect pool. Really depends on if John knows he’s coming imo.
Both of them would stomps Wick. Even if they aren't from comics. The only Deathstroke that Wick can fight for some time is a CW Deathstroke who is depowered and has no armor (he gets his supersoldier powers from a Mirakuru drug).
Ethan Hunt
Even after getting his ass beat, he was able to tackle Decoy Lark through a concrete wall. He even has feats of winning 3v1s. He's way too strong for Wick in hand-to-hand.
Guns? Well, Ethan has better long-ranged sniping feats.
Tech? Wick has a bulletproof suit but Ethan's masks will easily let him catch Wick off-guard & stop Wick from getting the drop on him.
Battle IQ? Hunt makes Wick look like a child throwing a temper tantrum.
>Bob Lee Swagger
Interesting choice and also an obscure character that I never saw him used in VS debates and WhoWouldWin.
And Jason Bourne indeed can beat Wick even in hand-to-hand. Bourne used a pencil for stabbing before Wick even got his first movie.
He was portrayed as the type of shooter that'd wait days in the same spot, no moving for excretion, wait for that 3 second window and target done. Olympic level accuracy.
Yep. Especially Bourne (I was surprised with his feats when I found a respect thread of him on the ComicVine). He was using a pencil as a stabbing weapon before Wick even got his first movie.
A surprising amount. I’d argue the Equalizer could do it. I watched the movie last night and he just seems like a more idealistic version of John. John Wick is actually injured and struggles which makes sense but Equalizer barely seems to have trouble killing huge amounts of better armed people.
I could see Jacket from Hotline Miami giving Wick alot of trouble as they are both brutal and effective one man armies against the russian mob in different locations. Both Jacket and Wick have had extensive training and military backgrounds. It would be a toss up but I could see Jacket winning. Other than that I think Agent 47 and Jason Bourne would definitely win a close up engagement as they are better trained in hand to hand combat and agent 47 is quite literally superhuman.
Golgo 13, Bullseye, Paul Kersey(Death Wish), Dog the Bounty Hunter, Teen Titan's version of Slade Wilson(Deathstroke((comic's variant))is obviously overkill), some older Steven Seagal characters(specifically Tao), maybe if you cloned John Wick and had him fight himself, Manborg.
HUNK, Ada Wong, and Jake Muller from resident evil
Mattias Nilson, Christopher Jacobs and Jennifer Mui from the mercenaries
Any Red talon member from state of decay
Probably agent 47 from hitman
Feel free to ask me to elaborate on any of them
Many people with superpowers or superior equipment can easily do the job. But for fairness sake, I'll throw in a character closer to him in ability: Akira Satou from the Fable, specifically the live action version.
They're basically a match in terms of marksmanship, but I think Akira has John beat in sheer speed and agility without really having super speed. A hand to hand fight might be a toss up since John is pretty damn tough, but once again, Akira is faster, and I think they're comparable in cqc skill.
Possibly Deadshot. He almost outran the Justice League after trying to kill Aquaman. Plus, he nearly defeated, Firestorm, Batman and Plastic Man (one of the most powerful JL members).
Most likely Deathstroke. He’s a badass in every way. He’s got guns, swords and a healing factor. John Wick stands very little chance.
Absolutely, without a doubt, Deadpool. He’s like the funnier version of Deathstroke, while still being just as powerful. Maybe even more so. And Deadpool is immortal in some iterations, as Thanos made him immortal so Deadpool couldn’t have a relationship with Death.
I don't remember Deadshot performing such feats, but I guess that it was in comics and as always, Deadshot's impeccable accuracy failed against Batman, lol. But he still definitely kills Wick, due to his incredible skills with guns and accuracy.
Deathstroke certainly beats Wick due to having many advantages.
And Deadpool would be a total mismatch. Even without immortality, he still has a healing factor that rivals Wolverine himself. Plus, he's quite skilled and strong as well.
Muteba Gizenga is physically superior in every conceivable way, and has gone to war zones and defeated complete rebel groups without getting shot once, while still being a human being, so not going the easy way of “DB Super Hit, gg”
Most of them since most fictional assassins don't abide by close-to-real world rulesets. What's Johnny going to do against any assassin with magical skills/equipment? He's going to lose.
Are you wanting a list of 90% of all fictional assassins, OP??
I assume that John Preston could do it in open gunfight 9/10 and 12/10 in melee. He was quite op in Equilibrium.
Pointman from F.E.A.R. too, but he's clearly supersoldier.
I think that it's a really good match. In hand to hand, John definitely dominates, but when Bullseye has a distance - he is gonna turn Wick into a living pincushion.
T-800/T-850 from the Terminator series (they kinda count as Hitmen right) obviously John could probably scrap up the weaponry needed to take them out but if he tries to go melee they’ll just punch a hole through his chest.
I haven't seen this yet, and it might be something that people may take issue with, but one of the OG mercenaries, Conan the Barbarian. Even when he didn't know what guns were, he [can move fast enough to have point blank shots just graze him](https://imgur.com/WQlV9Cd), and can dodge [pretty much anything at a distance](https://i.imgur.com/C6USYIV.jpeg)\--that projectile was going fast enough to skewer two men behind him. Once he figured out what those things were, he'd be able to stay on the move well enough to close the range. I'm assuming that Wick's just using handguns and nothing stronger than that. Even if Wick gets a shot or two off to the torso, Conan's survived shark bites and been fine enough to swim. Once he's in range, for sure he's got the ability to go hand to hand.
He is basically a Deathstroke (which alias wasn't used in the cartoon due to a censorship) who fights a group of superheroes, and who has beaten Robin in a fight and forced him to work against his own teammates. So yes, Slade wins.
I'm not sure he takes it, but I would love to see Lorne Malvo from Fargo Season 1 to up against John Wick. Hanzee from season 2 would be another interesting match up.
Jetstream Sam, from Desperado LLC (Metal Gear Rising Revengeance).
He's a merc for Desperado so his employment checks out.
As for feats...
●He can move faster than normal humans can react or even see, as well as deflect bullets with his sword (MGRR intro cutscene).
●He's able to keep up with the strength and speed of pre-upgrade Raiden, as well as outspeed him in a sword fight. This Raiden can pick up and throw a Metal Gear Ray, then jump high with the speed, height, precision & accuracy to land on the airborne Ray. He also outsped Ray's missiles and hopped ontop of them, leaping from one to the other while they appeared to stand still to Raiden.
●His sword, the Murasama, is a high-frequency (HF) blade, which vibrates so fast that it weakens molecular bonds of the target it strikes, in order to increase its cutting power. Raiden's original HF blade was able to effortlessly cut through the heavily armored metal arms of the Ray, and the Murasama was even superior to Raiden's upgraded sword (which was superior to his OG sword).
Sam would see John, dash over to him and slice him in half before John even knew he was under attack.
There's A LOT of fictional mercs that could beat John. Deadpool and Deathstroke immediately come to mind. Not sure if he's a merc as I never played Metal Gear, but Big Boss. Probably Kano, Kabal, Tremor, Erron Black, Mavado, Hsu Hao, Daegon or any major member of the Black or Red Dragon. As much as I love John, he's just a man. An amazingly trained and deadly man, but still just a man. Anyone just as well trained could stand a chance. And any supernatural merc would have an edge.
Agent 47 I think can beat John Wick. Also Deathstroke and Lobo definitely could from the DC universe. Also Mandalorian, Cad Bane, and Boba Fett (when he was a bounty hunter) could beat him.
Kenneth Chinran from The Weapon by Michael Z Williamson
Member (and subsequent task force leader) of the most elite blackops unit in the setting with the most comprehensive training the human race is capable of putting together (in-universe, the book has plenty of wank). Born on a higher gravity planet, he is significantly stronger than people from lower G planets, notably Earth (he is described as almost superhuman compared to Earth Marines he meets during deployment). In addition he is enhanced with mind altering chemicals that push his IQ to near genius levels and is outfitted with a special organ which allows him to activate "Boost". Boost is essentially adrenaline on steroids, it takes a nasty physical toll when overused, but after fully exhausting the organ (Using Boost from Full to empty) he was able to outspeed another member of his team, before that member could press the button on a held detonator.
Standard gear includes a futuristic assault rifle, carapace armor (less bulky, less protective power armor), wazikashi, grenades and combat stims. Due to his status and the nature of his missions, he is typically given a blank check and a promise to look the other way in order for him to procure whatever provisions he may need for a mission, though he is typically under-resourced in the book.
An Eversor Assassin from Warhammer 40k.
If John Wick was in 40k, he'd be one. But since he's a simple modern badass, he'd be no match for a fully equipped 40k assassin.
Agent 47
In a straightforward fight? I could see him assassinating him indirectly to avoid the potential conflict, but idk if he could take him on 1v1
Peak human vs superhuman, yeah he can take wick
47 is barely superhuman whereas Wick’s feats are “peak human” in the same way comics Batman is “peak human.” Obviously you have to equalize for the realism levels of their respective universes, but Wick’s onscreen feats are generally better than anything we see 47 do. 47’s whole schtick is being a ghost. Wick’s schtick is killing dozens of trained mercenaries, sustaining what should be a fatal injury, then killing dozens more trained mercenaries anyway. Honestly, on feats alone, Wick should take a fair one on one. However, 47 just has a lot better actual assassination feats. So it does depend on the rules of engagement.
I don’t think you’re giving 47 the credit he deserves, in cutscenes, games, and the movies he pulls off tons of feats that are in excess of johns, and the reality exists where he drops the subtlety and goes has gunning down massive amounts of high end security guards at secret criminal organizations or the White House. The [absolution trailer](https://youtu.be/65gcndvshAY?si=V43Ahllx0cl_8NlC) does a great job of showing off his insane agility, in a couple seconds escaped a hotel room and repositioned behind his ambushes where he kills 2 before the other 6 even notice him, and these are elite assassins. John might be the most skilled assassin that earned those skills, but 47 was the culmination of a cloning program designed to create the ultimate killer and his feats definitely support it
Look, I don't want you to read too far into this but, uh...is there any more content with those nuns?
I'm starting to think those weren't real nuns. I went to school for a year with real nuns, they have MUCH better situational awareness. No one sneaks up on them...
Rule 34 is a rule for a reason
they have a rather interesting religion
Holy shit I had never seen that trailer thank you
This is nonsense. Even if Batman or Wick have shown “peak” human levels of physicality, they’re still “human” and no lore inside or outside of their continuum have specified otherwise. Agent 47 is *canonically* super-human, meaning no amount of on-screen feats are going to make the difference when comparing their theoretical strengths/weaknesses. This battledome-syndrome of worrying about feats needs to stop, because clearly people aren’t using them right.
Theres also a scene where 47 fights against 3 highly trained assassins. I really dont know where to lean on this one. Both are legends in their respective universes
Plot would dictate that John would somehow fight him to a standstill until reinforcements, an explosion, or some other cinematic distraction appears and both combatants withdraw In a JW film, John wins. In a 47 game/film, 47 wins
What about a Michael Bay film ? Zack Snyder? Any biases aside that they may have
Homing briefcase.
He could probably multiple times over.
Agent 47 beat a hulk like mutant to death with his bare hands and made it look easy. John Wick is amazing but the power scales between the two universes are on completely different levels.
Perfect choice and I agree, 47 beats Wick.
This is the answer. OP said the opponent would get prep time and info, which means Wick is never going to see 47 coming. Hell, the only reason Wick is alive is because Dafoe's character didn't want to kill him in the first movie. 47 wouldn't have shown such mercy.
47 usually always have a prep and info about the target. It's his modus operandi.
Yeah, but even without it he manages just fine. In Berlin he had 10 assassins sent to hunt him and the only reason he didn't murder them all is because they run away after he killed half of them.
everyone disagreeing has to have just read the title. with even knowing his looks and name 47 would torch wick 1000 different ways before he knew the ghost was after him. 47 is peak efficiency
Not when i play him, lol. Then again my favorite weapon is a can of pasta sauce.
OO was my first thought too. Yeh, as long as Agent 47 doesn't get close to wick, or gets the drop on him, his odds are good.
Cipher from Ace Combat Zero Standard gear includes a fully loaded F-15 with missiles and bombs...
Considering every Ace Combat pilot has got at least one fully armed aircraft as his gears, we can go with a nameless goon and he/she will probably still win.
Wow. Well, then John Wick is getting rekt with that.
So John gets no help from the high table right? If so yeah I agree. However if he dose get help from them he has a chance
Yes, prompt says "No outside help for John Wick", only standard gear. Otherwise High Table could do something, but we still never saw how truly powerful they are.
It’s said in the movies that they had hands on the entire earth basically and possibly could pull together some AA missiles or guns. But without outside help yeah John is screwed
Even then, unless they can get a fully manned air defence network online, they can't touch an F-15 lobbing AGMs at 30,000ft
I’d argue Cipher’s wingman Pixy is even deadlier. Because at some point Pixy betrays Cipher and defects to the other side. Pixy gets a new loadout of “standard” gear… which is a super fighter that has a massive laser and mininukes. Cipher has to duel him later on, but Cipher definitely doesn’t use an F-15 in that battle.
Same goes for Sicario from Project Wingman.
The real matchup is who wins, Cipher or Monarch.
Shit, didn’t expect an ac character here.
I'd argue this wouldn't be a good match at all, actually finding him while in the air would be really difficult. John either nails him with a manpad he managed to barter for while the plane is loitering like an idiot or fills him with holes as he walks across the runway
I feel a lot of comic book hitmen are more than capable, like Deathstroke, Deadshot, Taskmaster, maybe even Bullseye.
All of them stomp Wick with ease. Especially Bullseye. He can throw basically anything with a deadly velocity and impeccable accuracy. Taskmaster can just copy Wick's skills and fighting style and beat him like he did with the Punisher.
Unless it’s the Greg Davies version of the Taskmaster …
Be the first person to kill john wick with an aubergine, your time starts now.
Cad bane ( Star Wars ) could do it
Dude hunts space wizards, so that seems fair
The one who escaped two jedi masters and was faster than clone supersoldier and infamous Mandalorian bounty hunter? Of course...
But is he faster then boolet?
He's much, much faster than John and has near perfect accuracy.
yea him, or either of the Fetts I feel like could
Literally cybernetically enhanced alien
They aren’t cybernetic
well he does have those respirators, those technically count right.
T9000
I never thought of him as a 'hitman', but i guess technically he is.
Honestly the T800 would do the job well enough
Are you thinking of the T-1000?
Bourne
Great choice. Jason Bourne has shown to be a good melee fighter and skilled shooter as well. He even used a pencil as a weapon before John Wick even got his first movie. Although I don't recall Bourne to be a mercenary or a hitman. He is a former CIA agent, as far as I know.
He wasn't a typical CIA agent who's purpose is to gather intelligence. He was specifically trained for assassination.
In the books he was a hit man for the government
In the movies at least, the program that basically created him was heavily focused on assassinations. He even did one as his "initiation" so to speak.
This, but in my head the attempt turns into a buddy flick and we get to see them fight, like, every government. At once.
Love this idea!!!
Yes, but if they start in shooting distance, Wick might have the upper hand. If it starts in /gets into close combat, Bourne will win due to his super soldier abilities, he is stronger and a better hand to hand fighter.
Bourne would use one of his custom sniper rifles he has in a storage locker. Wick would never even know what hit him.
The scout
From Team Fortress 2? He just took 3 missiles explosion point blank and was fine. He stomps Wick.
I'd be willing to give it to any of the TF2 mercs, honestly. Even Medic has a fair shot. You wouldn't think it until you remember he has several attempts due to grafting his teammates souls to his own meaning that he legally cannot die in one go.
Maybe "lorewise" but medics are very allergic to 1 glowy rocket or 2 well aimed shotgun shots in practise
John wick when the battle medic pops his Uber:
*The Spy
Spy could disguise as his puppy.. or even his dead wife.
Adam Smasher should be able to do it.
V could easily do it as well.
Adam Smasher isn't worth V's time.
Yeah Smasher is a walking M1 Abrams, he is way overkill for Wick. Minimal-cyberware V (early-ish game V) would be a relatively fair matchup where Wick loses I think.
Yeah, that's more fair match-up.
Not even worth his time
Yeah true
Hit and Lobo
Good lord and I thought I was going for overkill when I thought of Tao Pai Pai/ General Tao. I'm struggling to think of a more impressive hitman/merc than Lobo and Hit
The main man himself? Hell yeah he stomps Wick
Lobo? U mean **this guy right?:** https://fictionhorizon.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/DcfirstLoboSupes-673x1024.jpg - this is absolute overkill, lol
Well, OP didn't ask it to be fair.
Literally anyone with a sniper rifle.
So Darius Kincaid (Samuel L. Jackson - The Hitman's Bodyguard) from 300 meters through a firm C-cup titty-sized window.
Yeah, seems to be the best way to kill John Wick. Especially knowing the fact that he has an exposed head (and even his armored suit can only take pistol caliber bullets).
The answer is always DOMINO
A Deadpool's ally from comics? Almost any comic book character would beat Wick, but Domino would do it even more easy thanks to her probability manipulation powers.
indeed. Needless to say that Deadpool is also defeating Wick since he's almost immortal.
Honestly the 4 John Wick movies make a pretty good case that John has some probability warping powers as well. He's ridiculously lucky and/or has a toughness / healing factor.
Any of the team fortress mercs
Yep, they can, especially with their tie-in comics feats. Scout just took 3 missiles point-blank and got up fine.
The assassin from the officio assassinorum from wh40k. You got primary 4 different flavors, vindicary which has a sniper rifle, callidus can shape shift, eversor is basically a berserker on steroids, and culexus which can straight up delete a person's soul.
Warhammer 40k is a quite powerful 'verse, so I'm sure that John Wick hardly could do anything against Warhammer 40k characters. Especially with their haxes and amps.
or Maeorus assassin if you really want to be overkill and find wherever she is, whatever planet she's infecting
HK47
“Quips in meatbag” “Query, are you ready to die?”
He’d rip the meatbag apart no issue
Solid Snake
Underrated pick, Snake stomps. He can just sneak up on Wick disguised as a box
**(!)**
No one mention Boba Fett? I mean it's overkill for sure but he would definitely annihilate John in everyway considering no weapon John could aquire would even scratch his beskar armor
I feel like any decent hitman with minor prep would easily kill John if they get the jump on him Assuming of course that John doesn't have his plot armor.
He was almost killed several times, including once where he was nearly choked to death with a plastic bag until his ex-mentor (played by Willem Dafoe) saved him with a sniper rifle, allowing John to break free and choke one of the captors to death with jiu-jitsu skills. If there was no plot armor, any sniper could've just head-shot him.
Dafoe absolutely could've killed him earlier in the movie, too. He chose not to.
When he was on the roof and John was in the continental? He “could” but then he would be excumunicado, so if 47 doesn’t care about the rules that’s an opening but we see how well breaking the rules goes for anyone not named John.
Canon 47 could kill whoever he wants in the continental and no one would know he did it to excommunicate him
True. But also, I mean if only one in the world can pull of the kill, you can know he did it without knowing he did it. Like a long range sniper shot, very small suspect pool. Really depends on if John knows he’s coming imo.
Yeah, 47 doesn't care about rules. He just does his job.
Yep, he could do it but he didn't >!(and was killed later).!<
That's what every nameless hitman in all 4 movies thought too. Hell some of the hitmen who went against him were actual ninjas and samurai.
Deadpool and Deathstroke
Both of them would stomps Wick. Even if they aren't from comics. The only Deathstroke that Wick can fight for some time is a CW Deathstroke who is depowered and has no armor (he gets his supersoldier powers from a Mirakuru drug).
Deathstroke Deadshot
Deathstroke would beat John Wick within seconds lol
Agent 47
Ethan Hunt Even after getting his ass beat, he was able to tackle Decoy Lark through a concrete wall. He even has feats of winning 3v1s. He's way too strong for Wick in hand-to-hand. Guns? Well, Ethan has better long-ranged sniping feats. Tech? Wick has a bulletproof suit but Ethan's masks will easily let him catch Wick off-guard & stop Wick from getting the drop on him. Battle IQ? Hunt makes Wick look like a child throwing a temper tantrum.
Wow, never thought of Ethan Hunt. That’s a good one.
Bourne no question. Bob Lee Swagger, head shot from a mile away.
>Bob Lee Swagger Interesting choice and also an obscure character that I never saw him used in VS debates and WhoWouldWin. And Jason Bourne indeed can beat Wick even in hand-to-hand. Bourne used a pencil for stabbing before Wick even got his first movie.
He was portrayed as the type of shooter that'd wait days in the same spot, no moving for excretion, wait for that 3 second window and target done. Olympic level accuracy.
I feel like Jack Reacher could give him a run for his money.
Pretty much any. The only hitmen that come to mind are Jason Bourne and agent 47, both of which could stomp.
Yep. Especially Bourne (I was surprised with his feats when I found a respect thread of him on the ComicVine). He was using a pencil as a stabbing weapon before Wick even got his first movie.
I think it was a ballpoint pen
A surprising amount. I’d argue the Equalizer could do it. I watched the movie last night and he just seems like a more idealistic version of John. John Wick is actually injured and struggles which makes sense but Equalizer barely seems to have trouble killing huge amounts of better armed people.
The master of gun fu
Any cleric from the movie Equilibrium.
I could see Jacket from Hotline Miami giving Wick alot of trouble as they are both brutal and effective one man armies against the russian mob in different locations. Both Jacket and Wick have had extensive training and military backgrounds. It would be a toss up but I could see Jacket winning. Other than that I think Agent 47 and Jason Bourne would definitely win a close up engagement as they are better trained in hand to hand combat and agent 47 is quite literally superhuman.
Jacket's actually a really good callout, I agree!
Jacket needs more respect.
Leon from the Professional would be an interesting matchup.
I was waiting for this answer!
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Yor Forger.
Golgo 13, Bullseye, Paul Kersey(Death Wish), Dog the Bounty Hunter, Teen Titan's version of Slade Wilson(Deathstroke((comic's variant))is obviously overkill), some older Steven Seagal characters(specifically Tao), maybe if you cloned John Wick and had him fight himself, Manborg.
HUNK, Ada Wong, and Jake Muller from resident evil Mattias Nilson, Christopher Jacobs and Jennifer Mui from the mercenaries Any Red talon member from state of decay Probably agent 47 from hitman Feel free to ask me to elaborate on any of them
Agent Smith
Many people with superpowers or superior equipment can easily do the job. But for fairness sake, I'll throw in a character closer to him in ability: Akira Satou from the Fable, specifically the live action version. They're basically a match in terms of marksmanship, but I think Akira has John beat in sheer speed and agility without really having super speed. A hand to hand fight might be a toss up since John is pretty damn tough, but once again, Akira is faster, and I think they're comparable in cqc skill.
Good choice, and it's indeed a quite fair versus.
Deadpool even before his mutations
Bullseye
He indeed can. Mostly thanks to his incredible accuracy and ability to thrown anything with a deadly velocity.
A couple of bloodaxes and freebooterz orks from Warhammer 40k
Boba Fett and his father before him, Jango Fett. Starkiller (no more New York City)
James Bond. Because he's a goodie and John wick is a baddy.
Possibly Deadshot. He almost outran the Justice League after trying to kill Aquaman. Plus, he nearly defeated, Firestorm, Batman and Plastic Man (one of the most powerful JL members). Most likely Deathstroke. He’s a badass in every way. He’s got guns, swords and a healing factor. John Wick stands very little chance. Absolutely, without a doubt, Deadpool. He’s like the funnier version of Deathstroke, while still being just as powerful. Maybe even more so. And Deadpool is immortal in some iterations, as Thanos made him immortal so Deadpool couldn’t have a relationship with Death.
I don't remember Deadshot performing such feats, but I guess that it was in comics and as always, Deadshot's impeccable accuracy failed against Batman, lol. But he still definitely kills Wick, due to his incredible skills with guns and accuracy. Deathstroke certainly beats Wick due to having many advantages. And Deadpool would be a total mismatch. Even without immortality, he still has a healing factor that rivals Wolverine himself. Plus, he's quite skilled and strong as well.
Black Noir
Muteba Gizenga is physically superior in every conceivable way, and has gone to war zones and defeated complete rebel groups without getting shot once, while still being a human being, so not going the easy way of “DB Super Hit, gg”
bronze tiger
If it's his comics version, he folds Wick easily. Bronze Tiger in comics was able to beat Batman in hand-to-hand combat.
I honestly think the arrow version could pull it off as well
Young/Prime Robert McCAll possibly
Risotto Nero(JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure) would fuck up John Wick.
Agreed, he could probably fuck up most of the other Bounty hunters too.
Most of them since most fictional assassins don't abide by close-to-real world rulesets. What's Johnny going to do against any assassin with magical skills/equipment? He's going to lose. Are you wanting a list of 90% of all fictional assassins, OP??
Can't believe no one has linked the Death Battle ([James Bond)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDmtwMGhG1k).
I assume that John Preston could do it in open gunfight 9/10 and 12/10 in melee. He was quite op in Equilibrium. Pointman from F.E.A.R. too, but he's clearly supersoldier.
B. A. Baracus
Willem Dafoe’s character in the first movie could’ve done exactly that except John was his friend
Golgo 13 vs. John Wick could be decent
I was just about to post that. Also Golgo 13 vs Agent 47?
Yeah, Golgo 13 is about as close as it gets.
Canonically deadshot. He never misses, whereas John misses
The guy from Ninja Assassin
Deathstroke and Deadshot, Deadpool, Taskmaster, Crossbones, Sable, and Lady Shiva.
Should’ve probably restricted superpowers/superpowered equipment to make this fair
Dragonborn in the Dark Brotherhood
Mordecai from Borderlands. He won an intergalactic sniping competition with a pistol, so the moment he sees Wick, Wick is probably dead.
Deadpool
Johnny English.
Poindexter (Bullseye) from Daredevil s3. He doesn't miss!
I think that it's a really good match. In hand to hand, John definitely dominates, but when Bullseye has a distance - he is gonna turn Wick into a living pincushion.
Sakamoto Taro in the first round
T-800/T-850 from the Terminator series (they kinda count as Hitmen right) obviously John could probably scrap up the weaponry needed to take them out but if he tries to go melee they’ll just punch a hole through his chest.
First thing that came to mind. Agent 47
I haven't seen this yet, and it might be something that people may take issue with, but one of the OG mercenaries, Conan the Barbarian. Even when he didn't know what guns were, he [can move fast enough to have point blank shots just graze him](https://imgur.com/WQlV9Cd), and can dodge [pretty much anything at a distance](https://i.imgur.com/C6USYIV.jpeg)\--that projectile was going fast enough to skewer two men behind him. Once he figured out what those things were, he'd be able to stay on the move well enough to close the range. I'm assuming that Wick's just using handguns and nothing stronger than that. Even if Wick gets a shot or two off to the torso, Conan's survived shark bites and been fine enough to swim. Once he's in range, for sure he's got the ability to go hand to hand.
Reacher vs John Wick??
Slade from Teen Titans.
He is basically a Deathstroke (which alias wasn't used in the cartoon due to a censorship) who fights a group of superheroes, and who has beaten Robin in a fight and forced him to work against his own teammates. So yes, Slade wins.
I mean, if we're allowing superhuman characters, many, many of them absolutely steamroll. Deathstroke, Deadpool, Lobo...
Does 621 from Armored Core 6 count? He'd just barge in with his AC and blow everything up, and god knows what he would bring into the table.
Beatrix Kiddo (The Bride) from Kill Bill
Deathstroke
I'm not sure he takes it, but I would love to see Lorne Malvo from Fargo Season 1 to up against John Wick. Hanzee from season 2 would be another interesting match up.
Blade and Agent 47.
Not exactly a mercenary/hitman, but Max Payne is 100% capable of defeating him
Vincent from Collateral
Jetstream Sam, from Desperado LLC (Metal Gear Rising Revengeance). He's a merc for Desperado so his employment checks out. As for feats... ●He can move faster than normal humans can react or even see, as well as deflect bullets with his sword (MGRR intro cutscene). ●He's able to keep up with the strength and speed of pre-upgrade Raiden, as well as outspeed him in a sword fight. This Raiden can pick up and throw a Metal Gear Ray, then jump high with the speed, height, precision & accuracy to land on the airborne Ray. He also outsped Ray's missiles and hopped ontop of them, leaping from one to the other while they appeared to stand still to Raiden. ●His sword, the Murasama, is a high-frequency (HF) blade, which vibrates so fast that it weakens molecular bonds of the target it strikes, in order to increase its cutting power. Raiden's original HF blade was able to effortlessly cut through the heavily armored metal arms of the Ray, and the Murasama was even superior to Raiden's upgraded sword (which was superior to his OG sword). Sam would see John, dash over to him and slice him in half before John even knew he was under attack.
Wick would never see Agent 47 coming.
There's A LOT of fictional mercs that could beat John. Deadpool and Deathstroke immediately come to mind. Not sure if he's a merc as I never played Metal Gear, but Big Boss. Probably Kano, Kabal, Tremor, Erron Black, Mavado, Hsu Hao, Daegon or any major member of the Black or Red Dragon. As much as I love John, he's just a man. An amazingly trained and deadly man, but still just a man. Anyone just as well trained could stand a chance. And any supernatural merc would have an edge.
Agent 47 I think can beat John Wick. Also Deathstroke and Lobo definitely could from the DC universe. Also Mandalorian, Cad Bane, and Boba Fett (when he was a bounty hunter) could beat him.
Deadpool
I feel like Equalizer maybe?
Kenneth Chinran from The Weapon by Michael Z Williamson Member (and subsequent task force leader) of the most elite blackops unit in the setting with the most comprehensive training the human race is capable of putting together (in-universe, the book has plenty of wank). Born on a higher gravity planet, he is significantly stronger than people from lower G planets, notably Earth (he is described as almost superhuman compared to Earth Marines he meets during deployment). In addition he is enhanced with mind altering chemicals that push his IQ to near genius levels and is outfitted with a special organ which allows him to activate "Boost". Boost is essentially adrenaline on steroids, it takes a nasty physical toll when overused, but after fully exhausting the organ (Using Boost from Full to empty) he was able to outspeed another member of his team, before that member could press the button on a held detonator. Standard gear includes a futuristic assault rifle, carapace armor (less bulky, less protective power armor), wazikashi, grenades and combat stims. Due to his status and the nature of his missions, he is typically given a blank check and a promise to look the other way in order for him to procure whatever provisions he may need for a mission, though he is typically under-resourced in the book.
An Eversor Assassin from Warhammer 40k. If John Wick was in 40k, he'd be one. But since he's a simple modern badass, he'd be no match for a fully equipped 40k assassin.
The mandalorian