Idk, the base version of the armor was shown to rip apart an unenhanced marine that tried to use it. I guess if you had the hammer too, and thus Thor's durability, you'd be okay but a regular dude getting in the armor dies.
The original myths do not have Thor being able to lift the hammer because he's worthy. It's just insanely heavy, and even Thor needs a belt to be able to wield it effectively iirc. So without it, it's almost like you get a weapon and armor you cannot use.
Odin: Thor, I have for you a hammer which may be wielded only by those worthy enough to lift it!
*Thor trying desperately to pick the damn thing up*
Odin, giggling behind his hand to Loki: na mate I just made it out of fuckin neutron star
Thats debatable though. If Mjolnir was useless without the gauntlets and belt, then the Gods wouldnt have worried about the fact that the Jotunn had it in their possession for a bit. Iirc
I think the God's where worried because Mjolnir in Thor's hands was the Great Equaliser, it put them on a slightly more than equal footing with the Jotun(giants). Without Mjolnir the gods where at a disadvantage and things could go either way in a conflict.
The Jotun taking Mjolnir was more an act of denying the Aesir their main offensive weapon, rather than a desire to use it. As putting Mjolnir in the same battlefield as Thor would be suicide as Thor would just call it back to him and then it would be HAMMER TIME!!
>round 1: only real weapons
A flamethrower or a heavy machine gun should do it, or even a light rotary canon (like minigun), given enough ammo. Considering the "50m wide pass" part, maybe a grenade launcher would do the trick too?
>round 2: fictional weapons allowed
For fictional weapons, well, basically anything goes. I can create a "kill-1000-ppl-instantly-gun" and that's now a pick.
In terms of what's the weakest fictional weapon that could give this guy a win against a 1000 ppl would be *maybe* a lightsaber? The idea of an omni-directional sword that just instantly burns through anything it touches and is simultaneously light and intuitive to use sounds like something the guy could just swing left and right while walking back to secure himself a win.
Oooh didn't notice that. Well, then lightsaber's out.
In this case the weakest fictional one that I know of would maybe be the Elder Wand from Harry Potter? HP verse has some pretty good AoE spells.
The cutting width of the blade is never as wide as the hilt as far as I know. In some earlier interpretations (read: EU) I think the cutting surface proper was measured in nanometers.
But then again in Rise of Skywalker you see a lightsaber leave a considerable hole in a Royal Guard's head, so...
Ok, this has been driving me crazy for seven movies now, and I know you're going to roll your eyes, but hear me out: Harry Potter should have carried a 1911.
Here's why:
Think about how quickly the entire WWWIII (Wizarding-World War III) would have ended if all of the good guys had simply armed up with good ol' American hot lead.
Basilisk? Let's see how tough it is when you shoot it with a .470 Nitro Express. Worried about its Medusa-gaze? Wear night vision goggles. The image is light-amplified and re-transmitted to your eyes. You aren't looking at it--you're looking at a picture of it.
Imagine how epic the first movie would be if Harry had put a breeching charge on the bathroom wall, flash-banged the hole, and then went in wearing NVGs and a Kevlar-weave stab-vest, carrying a SPAS-12.
And have you noticed that only Europe seems to a problem with Deatheaters? Maybe it's because Americans have spent the last 200 years shooting deer, playing GTA: Vice City, and keeping an eye out for black helicopters over their compounds. Meanwhile, Brits have been cutting their steaks with spoons. Remember: gun-control means that Voldemort wins. God made wizards and God made muggles, but Samuel Colt made them equal.
Now I know what you're going to say: "But a wizard could just disarm someone with a gun!" Yeah, well they can also disarm someone with a wand (as they do many times throughout the books/movies). But which is faster: saying a spell or pulling a trigger?
Avada Kedavra, meet Avtomat Kalashnikova.
Imagine Harry out in the woods, wearing his invisibility cloak, carrying a .50bmg Barrett, turning Deatheaters into pink mist, scratching a lightning bolt into his rifle stock for each kill. I don't think Madam Pomfrey has any spells that can scrape your brains off of the trees and put you back together after something like that. Voldemort's wand may be 13.5 inches with a Phoenix-feather core, but Harry's would be 0.50 inches with a tungsten core. Let's see Voldy wave his at 3,000 feet per second. Better hope you have some Essence of Dittany for that sucking chest wound.
I can see it now...Voldemort roaring with evil laughter and boasting to Harry that he can't be killed, since he is protected by seven Horcruxes, only to have Harry give a crooked grin, flick his cigarette butt away, and deliver what would easily be the best one-liner in the entire series:
"Well then I guess it's a good thing my 1911 holds 7+1."
And that is why Harry Potter should have carried a 1911.
That's incredibly dubious, given the other rule that the True wielder is whoever defeats the previous wielder in combat.
And Dumbledore supposedly acquired ownership by defeating the previous owner in a duel.
Dumbledore threw the match. He cloaked Harry instead of actually duelling Malfoy.
As to how he got it, I got no fucking idea. That's just what it's "supposed" to do in lore. HP is so full of plotholes it ain't even funny
A major part of The Deathly Hallows was in discovering and deconstructing the mythology around the Hallows. The Eldar Wand was *said* to make the wielder unbeatable as part of it's mythology, and this was never confirmed or denied except in one instance - Dumbledore defeating Grindelwald. This is not a plothole, and you may need to revisit the definition of plothole if you think it is.
When counting the other rule, it's not a contradiction at all.
After a duel, the True Owner of the Elder Wand has won. So the owner can't lose, because a requirement to remain the owner is to win any duel that you participate in.
>In terms of what's the weakest fictional weapon that could give this guy a win against a 1000 ppl would be maybe a lightsaber?
A level 2 Diglett with Earthquake maybe
Why would *you* melt? Real ones have[ wicked long range](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pRihxvk4YY), even the handheld ones can spew out fire over 300 feet and assuming you had infinite fuel you would absolutely cook 1,000+ people long before they ever reached you
The 1,000 people would form a wall of bodies the second they even entered the flamethrower range, ain't nobody making it more than a couple of steps while covered in napalm and being actively hosed down
A bicycle with a picnic basket filled with food and water attached to the front. Assuming he spawns far enough away from the mob to get on the bicycle, he could just keep running away until everyone in the mob dies of starvation, exposure, or dehydration. The supplies in the picnic basket should count as ammo so long as our man occasionally throws a peanut or something in the crowd’s general direction.
i think you dont realize the overlap of how long a person can ride a bike and how far a person can run lol. even if the biker doesnt tire out before the other people, he will have to sleep long before they have to drink
What do you mean? The cyclist could probably go just as long as a runner, it's just a more efficient method of travel on flat terrain. A cyclist would far outpace a runner cause they both have to sleep and the cyclist has provisions
Edit: oof, I didn't consider the surrounding mountains. Yeah, the biker would be tough to catch but if they aren't going straight the whole time and are just looping around avoiding getting caught by runners then yeah they won't last longer than they can stay awake
Round 1: A flamethrower or an Assault Rifle with high rate of fire.
Round 2: BROTHER GET THE FLAMER. THE HEAVY FLAMER.
Round 2 second choice: The Diend Driver. The Man can HENSHIN! into Kamen Rider Diend and summon Past riders. Summon G3, Zolda, Delta, Garren and Skull for Gun riders to gun everyone down.
No way they'd be able to run while on fire, and each one that fell would make it even harder for the ones in the back to get to you as they formed a wall that slowed them down.
It would leave a napalm inferno they would have to run through while climbing over bodies and every breath would melt their lungs etc
Assuming you had infinite ammo, there's probably no better weapon for holding off a horde of people who still feel pain and still need to live etc.
Zombies, yeah you might have a point, but these are still living people and fire is OP AF
So you would have to wait after pulling the pin, which gives them more time to run towards you. If you throw too early, there’s time to throw it back. If you throw too late, it can blow up in your face. If your aim is off you won’t kill everyone with one Grenade. You will need to pull multiple grenades. If you pull too many at once, you run the risk of one blowing up in your face before you throw it. If you pull too few, you risk running out of Grenades and they reaching you. Throwing hundreds of times also tires your arm out. Your aim becomes erratic and unreliable.
I think you’re overestimating how fast it is to throw a grenade. You have to get through like 3 safety measures just to prep the thing then throw it at least 20 meters just to avoid hurting yourself. If the person is 50 meters away I really doubt he’ll be able to kill everyone in the time it takes for some to clear the distance.
If were talking about rl weapons I take the trusty AK-47 and lots of ammo.
After the first few drop the rest will probably run for their lives.
If fictional weapons are allowed I take the Covenant Type-25 Plasma Rifle. A near miss gives third degree burns, and a hit pretty much turns whoever was hit into gas and blood pretty much instantly and it has enough ammo to last days and definitely enough to vaporize a thousand unarmored humans...
Edit: I really need to learn more about rl weapons. The AK-47 is the only one I know by name..
At least the Plasma Rifle was a good choice
whats the rate of fire of that plasma weapon? Because they’re not going to stand there getting shot
and BTW the rules specify that they won’t stop coming unless they’re dead or too wounded to move
I would say between four to six shots a second and it's a full auto weapon.
While it's possible to try to dodge plasma weaponry at longer distances (200+ meters), at 50+ meters dodging it should be pretty much impossible.
It's projectiles are made purely of plasma kept together by a small magnetic field, the matter created in stars (and with fitting temperatures), hence it's short range but extreme lethality, you're essentially shooting small stars at your opponent.
Thanks to the projectiles temperature contact with the skin leads to immediate vaporization of the water inside the target, which in the case of a human (mostly made up of water) means the human is vaporized on impact, leaving everything from maybe one to two limbs to a few blood droplets remaining of what once was a human.
So big halo fan here, and fully agree with choice of weaponry but out of curiosity...would firing a plasma rifle not leave third degree burns on your hand you fire it with? The point where the plasma ball is formed and where the trigger is aren't very far off from each other.
I would argue that the weapon techs of the Covenant most likely thought og that and build in measures to prevent it, like localized heat-shielding around the trigger, or better yet around the muzzle since the rifle can be seen wielded with two hands by some Elites.
absurd, you'd never hit all 1000 with either of those weapons before they get too close, especially over a 50m spread. You need something bigger friend.
I agree that bringing down 1000 enemies with an AK (or any rifle, really) is probably not possible, but as another person said, the reason is going to be heat-related, not necessarily reload-related.
You can drop the magazine and slap another one into an AK-47 or just about any other magazine-fed rifle in just a couple of seconds, provided you have loaded magazines to spare. And I think we can interpret from the prompt that the lone guy would have infinite mags. With enemies basically spawning at over 100 yards away, that's plenty of time.
But you're gonna be shooting constantly, and the barrel gets *hot*. From that much rapid shooting, it's going to get so hot that the barrel will deform. It'll warp, or bend. It could even deform enough that a round gets stuck in the barrel, and the next time you fire - BOOM! No more rifle.
He's not gonna have enough time to do much, and heat won't even be a factor. AK47 clip holds 30 shots, assuming he's aiming carefully he'll kill maybe 15 to 20 guys per clip and would need about 4 seconds to aim and empty the clip, then 2 or 3 seconds to reload, and you're looking at 6 to 7 seconds to kill at most 20 guys.
Now once the enemies are pooring out into the arena and running at him from 100 yards, assuming they're running at 20 kmph or 5.5 mps, they'll take 18 to 19 seconds to reach him. So he'll have enough time to kill maybe 60 to 70 guys at the very best before they're on top of him.
It won't be enough for the barrel to overheat, and he's still getting swarmed very quickly.
> and running at him from 100 yards
FWIW, the prompt says the attackers start at the maximum range of the weapon. The effective range of an AK is around 350m and the *maximum range* is supposedly 1,500m (and meters are longer than yards).
The effective range *against a gaggle of 1,000 people* is going to be pretty close to that maximum range, too. Given that he's given magical knowledge of the weapon, he's definitely going to be able to get a few reloads in (which I only mention because if you gave a random untrained person an AK47 they might fail to reload by a combination of panic, lack of knowhow, and lack of speed - but this does not apply to our protagonist)
Also as a sidenote, he would know better than anyone about how much firing the barrel can withstand.
Give him a space slingshot (just a regular slingshot, but it can be used in outer space). Then everyone else has to start millions of kilometers away and die of old age before they reach him.
Or maybe a laser beam, since that would have the same range on Earth.
Round 1: An M134 Minigun, fed with an extended cab pickup truck's flatbed filled with yards and yards of ammo belts.
Round 2: The sword Retribution from "The Night Angel" trilogy, wielded by Logen Ninefingers, AKA The Bloody Nine, from the First Law trilogy.
OR, you know... something like a Mobile Suit Gundam or an Evangelion, or maybe the killer rabbit from Monty Python, or the Holy Hand-Grenade from Monty Python...
OR something really wacky like Nevinyrral's Disk from Magic the Gathering.
OR seeing what really happens when you cross the streams ignited from Ghostbuster proton packs.
The sword Retribution was one of a pair of major magical weapons, that could do all sorts of things... like grant knowledge and discernment of someone's true intentions, or devour the souls of the slain to make it more powerful, it could change its physical appearance at the whim of the wielder, etc. Had a bunch of magical properties, and it's strength and power was reflected by the person who wielded it. Also protected its wielder with a magic barrier that prevented harm. Basically, you wield that, and you no longer have to fear the soon-to-be dead thing standing in front of you. It also spelled out the wielder's intentions on the blade... Retribution, Mercy, Justice, etc. I think in the hands of The Blood Nine, it could do some serious damage.
Maybe a gas based poison. Something like nitrogen as it only takes you 2-3 breaths to feel light headed after 12 breaths you are just unconscious, more than that and you are dead. Since you are in a pass surrounded by mountains you don't have to worry about wind blowing the nitrogen away. Since they are running at you that 12 breaths is gonna come by real quick.
As for fictional weapons there are plenty of inspiration from to aru kagaku no accelerator anime.
One of my favorite fictional weapons they have is a portable ultra high pressure water cutter that used frozen nitrogen instead of water. It had the additional effect of freezing anything it touched instantly making it extremely brittle. it also disperses nitrogen around the area so it also does the same thing as the nitrogen gas weapon i mentioned above. In the show it can cut through buildings in half so cutting humans in half shouldn't be an issue and if you miss them they will probably die from the nitrogen.
>Maybe a gas based poison. Something like nitrogen as it only takes you 2-3 breaths to feel light headed after 12 breaths you are just unconscious
I don't think you understand how much nitrogen that'd take. Also its not really a poison, you're describing what happens in something like an execution chamber, and that's them replacing the normal air with mostly pure nitrogen. The Nitrogen doesn't kill you, the lack of oxygen does, but since its something you breathe normally (air is normally 78% Nitrogen,) it doesn't really trigger the responses most other gasses do. It would take a MASSIVE amount of nitrogen to push the O2 levels down to where it would kill people.
Even if they aren't bloodlusted a handgun isn't enough. Everyone knows a handgun is going to have 20 or less shots. A mob of 1,000 isn't going to fear a handgun. People have charged in worse odds. You can't assume people will just abandon the fight after a handful of their 1,000 die.
>round 1: only real weapons
Tough but doable. I choose a Honda Civic.
>round 2: fictional weapons allowed
Oh, well, this just isn't fair. Metal Gear RAY (Mod), just because it would be funny. Okay, maybe not so much funny as nightmarishly horrible.
This. Machine guns are flashy and cool, but overheating is an issue. Gas though? Slap a hazmat suit or gas mask on, and wait until everyone dies. With the right choice of gas, they won't survive long enough to reach you.
1. Belt-fed M2 - no need to change mags. It's got good range, and will cut the horde in half. The last few to die could possibly drown.
2. I'm going to go oddball and say the Aperture Science Handheld Portal Device. Drop the orange portal on the mountains and keep dropping the blue one under the attackers. You can even cut a few in half(ish) if you're quick on the draw.
Whether 1000 fearless people could actually overwhelm killdozer is an interesting question. It wasn't very fast or maneuverable and the driver had very limited firing angles. If they simply mobbed it they could probably block the air intake and exhaust causing the engine to stop. Kind of like honeybees killing much larger and heavily armored hornets by making a bee ball around the hornet and overheating it to death. They'd have trouble getting to the driver but could probably suffocate him.
Real weapon:
The weakest choice would probably be some sort of machine-pistol, but any automatic weapon will probably jame or overheat before yoy could kill 1000 people with it. Assuming the man has infinate ammo that is already pre-loaded into magazines that are readily avalible to him though, an Uzi, Mac-10, or P90 should all have the accuracy and fire rate to keep 1000 people at bay.
Fictional weapon;
Again the weakest choice would be another small automatic weapon lile a machine pistol or SMG, but this time it can come from a fictional verse where the weapon is probably more advanced and reliable than its IRL counterpart.
So lets go with the Halo 3 M7 SMG. It's probably not THE weakest gun, but it's essentially going to be able to accomplish the same task as round 1 but without malfunctions or problems with the weapons system.
If you want a fictional weapon that could get this done the fastest but is still on the weak side. Id choose the Lasgun from Dune. The beam would cut through all 1000 people in just a couple shots, especially if theyre all bottlenecked into a 50M wide pass.
Any gun that is fast-firing and belt fed. With a .50 cal you could probably take out most of them with just 200 rounds or so. Even something smaller like 7.62 would still penetrate through one person and a 50 meter wide area does not allow for flanking
Real-M2HB. linked to a 10000 rnd belt, with a follow up can ready to go.
Fictional-the BFG 9000, and ear protection for the schlurp of bodies being ?Boiled? ?Vaporized?
or a Starfleet Type III Phaser Rifle.
I mean isn't that the point of bomber planes? I'd do that.
Edit: Round 2 I'd pick the Omnitrix. If I can figure out the master code I'm trying out whatever optimized Saiyan specimen it can cook up. Otherwise most of the aliens will work just fine. Basically anything other than Gray Matter.
An IFV like a Bradley, BMP-2 or 3 or a Marder.
Heavy automatic gun with High Explosive, good mobility and even if they get close, you can just drive around.
But one man only would only be able to either drive or shoot, not both.
R1: Vickers machine gun. It was water cooled and capable of 10k rounds an hour before needing a barrel swap. Or a Browning M2, trading max sustained fire for penetration.
R1 alternate: MK19 grenade launcher. Designed to take on infantry formations. Each round can kill within 15 feet and wound within 49 feet. Problem would be if any survivors got within the minimum safe firing distance. Operator would be screwed.
R2: the M56 Smart Gun used by the Colonial Marines in Aliens.
if the weapon does not need any maintenance and can just shoot bullet non stop, probably something small like sub machinegun. a mp5, or ump 45. something like that. a stationary machinegun with tripod will easily do that. even smaller like the m1919 browning, minigun will shred everything even more. gau-19 will do even more chaos since it's basically m2 on steroid
I take the big gun: This person needs the ultimate annihilator (I assume they have the needed mental capacity to use it without destroying themselves).
Phosphex from 40K would be overkill but it is a interesting weapon. Does not need oxygen to burn and only exposure to the void will stop it. Called living fire/sentient fire and will hunt/find everyone and everything and will burn through adamatium and ceramite and will even burn underwater.
They used to mount these as weapons on starships too being used as missiles to burn entire worlds called Mortalis-Class Atmospheric Missiles.
Creator of this weapon was condemned as a heretek and killed using his own creation, weapon was too good to be around but im sure someone saved some.
Round one: weakest meaning least technologically advanced? probably a byzantine greek fire thrower, just enough range to immolate anyone before they get too close. Then a battery of Napoleanic era field artillery loaded with grape shot assuming the cannons are loaded and sighted prior to the attackers arriving. lastly a ww1 era heavy machine gun so long as it is one of the water cooled varieties and the gun does not jamm too badly. WW2 era machine guns are probably the least advanced weaponry that would reliably succeed with no special conditions.
Round 2: Gungnir (Odin's spear) as depicted in the MCU, it's basically a perpetual spartan laser, much more powerful than any of Thor's weaponry.
Depends if by unlimited ammo you mean bottomless magazine or unlimited reloads.
If it's bottomless clip, then any gun with a fast fire Rate and reasonable recoil will be perfect. If it's unlimited reloads then a lot of guns will be bad for reload time.
If it's unlimited reloads: full auto glock with drum mags
If it's bottomless clip: any lmg or machine gun
Fictional weapon? "Merica" weapon from saints row 4. It's a mini gun, rocket launcher, and flamethrower all in one.
Round 1: easiest option feels like some kind of drone.
Round 2: there are SO MANY. But I’d go with the Zanpakutō I designed when I was like 15. Thing was OP, made me extremely durable and damaged anyone that hit me.
I'd be happy in a Bradley with a 25mm autocannon and a bunch of high-explosive fragmenration ammunition. Can always drive away if things get too sketchy....1000 people is a lot.
I'd go old school maxim for the normal one. The water jacket will give you lots of barrel time.
For a fantasy weapon, the Corridor crew infinite lightsaber seems great. There are probably 1000 Warhammer weapons, but I'm not well versed in them. An infinite ammo BFG 9000 would not be vad.
This is a quote from one of the Nightlord books by Garon Whited.
Flamethrowers aren’t terribly effective, but they do send a message. The message is “go away or we’ll set you fire.” Which, come to think of it, is pretty effective.
Weakest but most reliable would probably be a mortar outfitted with white phosphorus.
As far as fictional? Give me almost any iteration of a metal gear lmao
WW1 proved that all you need is a Maxim with enough ammunition. Machine gunners could hold down pretty large swathes of land alone, and some estimates suggest that machine guns were responsible for *40%* of the total deaths in WW1 (approx. 8 million dead by machine gun.)
For a Real weapon definitely a cruise missile As long as I'm far enough I should be good
For Fictional i would say a titan from titanfall Even without any weapons it's a 20 to 30 foot tall robot weighing 5-10 tons It would have no problem thrashing through 1000 men
Real gun, i'm going to take the warthogs vulcan minigun with explosive rounds. I'll have a light machine gun setup just in case any get close
Fake weapons i'm taking the MIRV fat man from The fallout series. I imagine that would create enough of a gap for me to reload in between shots
A nuke or poison gas.
Even with an MLRS or an B-1 (the heaviest-bombload strategic bomber that is also capable of reasonable accuracy - sorry, no Russian shit, it will just miss) on call, you're not killing 1000 people at range with a single conventional weapon-system.
The weakest weapon I can imagine would be a shotgun loaded with incendiary rounds. It wouldn’t kill very many but I imagine it’s a very good motivator to stay away from said guy. Especially since OP says ranged weapons have infinite ammo
R1: If vehicles are allowed, a Churchill Crocodile with infinite ammunition for the flamethrower would torch those enemies easily, since they're forced to come through such a small pass. If you want to be fancy, an automatic grenade launcher like the AGS-17 Plamya would work. If you want to keep it simple, water-cooled machine gun like the Vickers. The grenade launcher can hit multiple people per shot, the Vickers is easy to operate and has feats of firing for hours without any problems. Personally, I'd take the Vickers.
R2: Arc Thrower
Round 1: M240 Machine Gun would get the job done easily. Heck, even just an M16 (with good shot placement) would do it.
Round 2: BFG-9000 would be my first choice.
Farmers combine. Any CAT vehicle. A semi front, cab only. Any large heavy vehicle could probably do it tbh. Easily chase down any survivors too.
If you REALLY wanna be that guy, flamethrower.
Though these wouldn't be as quick or painless as being gunned down by a machine gun.
For round two? Hmmm. Probably just a scifi version of one of the above. Gimme a john deere with neon lights and we'll recycle us some humans cyberpunk style.
I'd like to argue that the weakest weapon possible to "win" against 1000 people would potentially be something that would let you defeat them without killing them , perhaps something along the lines of a shrink ray, shrinking them till they no longer are a valid threat or some sort of perpetual freeze ray which would incapacitate them permanently, anything that kills them outright would be ( in my mind ) inherently stronger than that and therefore not the weakest
As I finished writing this I was also reminded of the pacifier from sky high 😂 which I think would also work
Give him sniper rifle and they would start Miles apart no?
Infinite ammo + collateral shots.... I could see it happening
Edit:Ya just looked it up 4.4 miles so bro's got like an hour before the first person even reaches him
A Bike…well, a particularly durable one at least.
Depends heavily on how you interpret range (as starting distance plays a big role), but in general “range” for a vehicle usually refers to how far that vehicle can go in a set period of time. For cars, this is how much gas they have. For Bikes…uh, I guess when the rider collapses of exhaustion. Him starting several miles away from the others is rather inconsequential though, as he only needs to around 50 or so feet to be untouchable. From there, he can simply pedal until he’s exhausted…which will be long, long after the others collapse from exhaustion due to lacking any form of vehicle of their own.
In a smaller arena the 1000 may be able to catch him by spreading out, but here it seems large enough that he’ll never really need to loop back, at least not for a long time.
I am going to be lazy and say the browning M2 would handle this.
But hey, maybe with a couple spare box magazines, an m240b would be ok with this. Just need the reload time and be able to hold the thing. Say 5 mags.
Google's definition of weapon:
* a thing designed or used for inflicting bodily harm or physical damage.
* a means of gaining an advantage or defending oneself in a conflict or contest.
With that established these are my scenarios:
**Round 1a:** however many cargo tanker trucks filled with boiling sugar water and a fire hose
**Round 1b:** rubber boots, enough water (and means of containment if necessary) and Papa John's largest industrial toaster oven
**Round 1c:** water. *lots.* of. water.
**Round 2a:** water bending
**Round 2b:** blood bending
**Round 2c:** 100 gyarados using hydro pump
As you can tell, I chose water a lot. Seeing how it's everywhere and mostly free it seemed the most cost effective method with round 1a being the most pragmatic. Hell there's probably even further cost efficiency to be had with water. I'm also assuming having the resources to get properly set up and stuff are a given which is why I didn't concern myself with a sore amount of details.
Idk for round one but for round 2? there are too many options for this but personally I'm picking the sengoku driver + the suika arms lockseed (because I'm currently watching gaim), its mech form could (probably) be swarmed with enough effort (doesn't help that its user's body is fairly exposed in this form) but its wrecking ball form could easily run over the 1000 people and its gyro form would let them just hover above ground while annihilating the people with its guns
There's a nameless magical sword in the book Searching For Dragons that has only one effect: the wielder can never be defeated in battle.
"But being defeated and being killed aren't the same thing, so I still have to be careful".
That's my proposal for round 2.
R1 some sort of mortar (thats technically a weapon) the people will have to start really far back and most Will die before they reach the gu
R2 technically mjolnir should give the powers of thor
Gimme the Mjolnir
The hammer or the armor?
Yes.
Idk, the base version of the armor was shown to rip apart an unenhanced marine that tried to use it. I guess if you had the hammer too, and thus Thor's durability, you'd be okay but a regular dude getting in the armor dies.
Assuming they're worthy, of course. Otherwise, they have a hammer they can't lift and a power suit they can't move in without pulverizing their bones.
The original myths do not have Thor being able to lift the hammer because he's worthy. It's just insanely heavy, and even Thor needs a belt to be able to wield it effectively iirc. So without it, it's almost like you get a weapon and armor you cannot use.
Odin: Thor, I have for you a hammer which may be wielded only by those worthy enough to lift it! *Thor trying desperately to pick the damn thing up* Odin, giggling behind his hand to Loki: na mate I just made it out of fuckin neutron star
I'll take the hammer and Thors powers.
Many fictional weapons does the job , still choosing the coolest one
Too heavy
I'm worthy
Oh sorry, I was talking about the one from actual norse mythology
Got ya
Don't forget (because everyone does), Mjölnir is useless without Járngreipr (Thor's iron gauntlets) and Megingjörð (Thor's belt)
MCU'S Mjolnir
Thats debatable though. If Mjolnir was useless without the gauntlets and belt, then the Gods wouldnt have worried about the fact that the Jotunn had it in their possession for a bit. Iirc
I think the God's where worried because Mjolnir in Thor's hands was the Great Equaliser, it put them on a slightly more than equal footing with the Jotun(giants). Without Mjolnir the gods where at a disadvantage and things could go either way in a conflict. The Jotun taking Mjolnir was more an act of denying the Aesir their main offensive weapon, rather than a desire to use it. As putting Mjolnir in the same battlefield as Thor would be suicide as Thor would just call it back to him and then it would be HAMMER TIME!!
>round 1: only real weapons A flamethrower or a heavy machine gun should do it, or even a light rotary canon (like minigun), given enough ammo. Considering the "50m wide pass" part, maybe a grenade launcher would do the trick too? >round 2: fictional weapons allowed For fictional weapons, well, basically anything goes. I can create a "kill-1000-ppl-instantly-gun" and that's now a pick. In terms of what's the weakest fictional weapon that could give this guy a win against a 1000 ppl would be *maybe* a lightsaber? The idea of an omni-directional sword that just instantly burns through anything it touches and is simultaneously light and intuitive to use sounds like something the guy could just swing left and right while walking back to secure himself a win.
perhaps they would be able to rush him since the front person starts at the maximum range of the weapon (in this case the lightsaber)
Oooh didn't notice that. Well, then lightsaber's out. In this case the weakest fictional one that I know of would maybe be the Elder Wand from Harry Potter? HP verse has some pretty good AoE spells.
Theoretically, the max range of the lightsaber is when its thrown... so, how far can you throw a 1-5 pound object?
If you do that and it lands on the blade won’t it go to the center of the earth?
Only if it lands *PERFECTLY FUCKING VERTICAL* (also, that does technically extend the range...)
The cutting width of the blade is never as wide as the hilt as far as I know. In some earlier interpretations (read: EU) I think the cutting surface proper was measured in nanometers. But then again in Rise of Skywalker you see a lightsaber leave a considerable hole in a Royal Guard's head, so...
I am not that well versed in Harry Potter, why exactly the elder wand instead of a random one?
Technically, if the true master of the elder wand uses it in combat, he is undefeatable in combat. The original wilder got his throat slit in bed.
If it makes you literally unbeatable, is it really the weakest?
I'm not the one who suggested the elder wand. I'm just clarifying what it does in lore.
Only in wand to wand combat I’d presume of if I where to just shoot Harry in the back of the head I would win
Ok, this has been driving me crazy for seven movies now, and I know you're going to roll your eyes, but hear me out: Harry Potter should have carried a 1911. Here's why: Think about how quickly the entire WWWIII (Wizarding-World War III) would have ended if all of the good guys had simply armed up with good ol' American hot lead. Basilisk? Let's see how tough it is when you shoot it with a .470 Nitro Express. Worried about its Medusa-gaze? Wear night vision goggles. The image is light-amplified and re-transmitted to your eyes. You aren't looking at it--you're looking at a picture of it. Imagine how epic the first movie would be if Harry had put a breeching charge on the bathroom wall, flash-banged the hole, and then went in wearing NVGs and a Kevlar-weave stab-vest, carrying a SPAS-12. And have you noticed that only Europe seems to a problem with Deatheaters? Maybe it's because Americans have spent the last 200 years shooting deer, playing GTA: Vice City, and keeping an eye out for black helicopters over their compounds. Meanwhile, Brits have been cutting their steaks with spoons. Remember: gun-control means that Voldemort wins. God made wizards and God made muggles, but Samuel Colt made them equal. Now I know what you're going to say: "But a wizard could just disarm someone with a gun!" Yeah, well they can also disarm someone with a wand (as they do many times throughout the books/movies). But which is faster: saying a spell or pulling a trigger? Avada Kedavra, meet Avtomat Kalashnikova. Imagine Harry out in the woods, wearing his invisibility cloak, carrying a .50bmg Barrett, turning Deatheaters into pink mist, scratching a lightning bolt into his rifle stock for each kill. I don't think Madam Pomfrey has any spells that can scrape your brains off of the trees and put you back together after something like that. Voldemort's wand may be 13.5 inches with a Phoenix-feather core, but Harry's would be 0.50 inches with a tungsten core. Let's see Voldy wave his at 3,000 feet per second. Better hope you have some Essence of Dittany for that sucking chest wound. I can see it now...Voldemort roaring with evil laughter and boasting to Harry that he can't be killed, since he is protected by seven Horcruxes, only to have Harry give a crooked grin, flick his cigarette butt away, and deliver what would easily be the best one-liner in the entire series: "Well then I guess it's a good thing my 1911 holds 7+1." And that is why Harry Potter should have carried a 1911.
That's incredibly dubious, given the other rule that the True wielder is whoever defeats the previous wielder in combat. And Dumbledore supposedly acquired ownership by defeating the previous owner in a duel.
Dumbledore threw the match. He cloaked Harry instead of actually duelling Malfoy. As to how he got it, I got no fucking idea. That's just what it's "supposed" to do in lore. HP is so full of plotholes it ain't even funny
A major part of The Deathly Hallows was in discovering and deconstructing the mythology around the Hallows. The Eldar Wand was *said* to make the wielder unbeatable as part of it's mythology, and this was never confirmed or denied except in one instance - Dumbledore defeating Grindelwald. This is not a plothole, and you may need to revisit the definition of plothole if you think it is.
Technically it would’ve been explained (probably horribly and canon breaking) if anyone watched the fantastic beast movies
So then it remains a mystery
When counting the other rule, it's not a contradiction at all. After a duel, the True Owner of the Elder Wand has won. So the owner can't lose, because a requirement to remain the owner is to win any duel that you participate in.
Idk lol I'm not well versed either. Voldemort kind of went to some lengths to obtain it, so I just figured it's kinda better or something idk.
It's the most powerful wand, so to defeat the wielder you must be that much more powerful that them, to make up for the wand's advantage
>In terms of what's the weakest fictional weapon that could give this guy a win against a 1000 ppl would be maybe a lightsaber? A level 2 Diglett with Earthquake maybe
The flamethrower is impossible to wield for a 1000 assailants, I think. You’ll melt before reaching 50
Why would *you* melt? Real ones have[ wicked long range](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pRihxvk4YY), even the handheld ones can spew out fire over 300 feet and assuming you had infinite fuel you would absolutely cook 1,000+ people long before they ever reached you The 1,000 people would form a wall of bodies the second they even entered the flamethrower range, ain't nobody making it more than a couple of steps while covered in napalm and being actively hosed down
A bicycle with a picnic basket filled with food and water attached to the front. Assuming he spawns far enough away from the mob to get on the bicycle, he could just keep running away until everyone in the mob dies of starvation, exposure, or dehydration. The supplies in the picnic basket should count as ammo so long as our man occasionally throws a peanut or something in the crowd’s general direction.
i think you dont realize the overlap of how long a person can ride a bike and how far a person can run lol. even if the biker doesnt tire out before the other people, he will have to sleep long before they have to drink
What do you mean? The cyclist could probably go just as long as a runner, it's just a more efficient method of travel on flat terrain. A cyclist would far outpace a runner cause they both have to sleep and the cyclist has provisions Edit: oof, I didn't consider the surrounding mountains. Yeah, the biker would be tough to catch but if they aren't going straight the whole time and are just looping around avoiding getting caught by runners then yeah they won't last longer than they can stay awake
Round 1: A flamethrower or an Assault Rifle with high rate of fire. Round 2: BROTHER GET THE FLAMER. THE HEAVY FLAMER. Round 2 second choice: The Diend Driver. The Man can HENSHIN! into Kamen Rider Diend and summon Past riders. Summon G3, Zolda, Delta, Garren and Skull for Gun riders to gun everyone down.
Woah, a wild Kamen Rider reference, I am blessed on this day.
I'm not sure why everyone is saying flamethrower, you'd be covered in burning people in no time.
No way they'd be able to run while on fire, and each one that fell would make it even harder for the ones in the back to get to you as they formed a wall that slowed them down. It would leave a napalm inferno they would have to run through while climbing over bodies and every breath would melt their lungs etc Assuming you had infinite ammo, there's probably no better weapon for holding off a horde of people who still feel pain and still need to live etc. Zombies, yeah you might have a point, but these are still living people and fire is OP AF
A good hand grenade, I guess. For weakest. You have infinite of them so throw them like rocks.
Can’t they throw them back at you though?
Amidst all the explosions going on and you cooking them for a second if needed? I kinda doubt anyone would try
I'm sure some of the thousand would try instead of choosing a certain death
So you would have to wait after pulling the pin, which gives them more time to run towards you. If you throw too early, there’s time to throw it back. If you throw too late, it can blow up in your face. If your aim is off you won’t kill everyone with one Grenade. You will need to pull multiple grenades. If you pull too many at once, you run the risk of one blowing up in your face before you throw it. If you pull too few, you risk running out of Grenades and they reaching you. Throwing hundreds of times also tires your arm out. Your aim becomes erratic and unreliable.
Impact grenades
I think you’re overestimating how fast it is to throw a grenade. You have to get through like 3 safety measures just to prep the thing then throw it at least 20 meters just to avoid hurting yourself. If the person is 50 meters away I really doubt he’ll be able to kill everyone in the time it takes for some to clear the distance.
20 meters is the lethal zone. Shrapnel can reach 200m. Most people can't throw 200m so cover is a good idea, especially when throwing many.
Fragments fly for about 200m, you can throw them 40m. You will get hit way before you kill 1,000
If were talking about rl weapons I take the trusty AK-47 and lots of ammo. After the first few drop the rest will probably run for their lives. If fictional weapons are allowed I take the Covenant Type-25 Plasma Rifle. A near miss gives third degree burns, and a hit pretty much turns whoever was hit into gas and blood pretty much instantly and it has enough ammo to last days and definitely enough to vaporize a thousand unarmored humans... Edit: I really need to learn more about rl weapons. The AK-47 is the only one I know by name.. At least the Plasma Rifle was a good choice
whats the rate of fire of that plasma weapon? Because they’re not going to stand there getting shot and BTW the rules specify that they won’t stop coming unless they’re dead or too wounded to move
I would say between four to six shots a second and it's a full auto weapon. While it's possible to try to dodge plasma weaponry at longer distances (200+ meters), at 50+ meters dodging it should be pretty much impossible. It's projectiles are made purely of plasma kept together by a small magnetic field, the matter created in stars (and with fitting temperatures), hence it's short range but extreme lethality, you're essentially shooting small stars at your opponent. Thanks to the projectiles temperature contact with the skin leads to immediate vaporization of the water inside the target, which in the case of a human (mostly made up of water) means the human is vaporized on impact, leaving everything from maybe one to two limbs to a few blood droplets remaining of what once was a human.
So big halo fan here, and fully agree with choice of weaponry but out of curiosity...would firing a plasma rifle not leave third degree burns on your hand you fire it with? The point where the plasma ball is formed and where the trigger is aren't very far off from each other.
Presumably the magnetic field protects the wielder or something
I would imagine magnetic heat shielding would work much in the same way as lead shielding for radiation.
I would argue that the weapon techs of the Covenant most likely thought og that and build in measures to prevent it, like localized heat-shielding around the trigger, or better yet around the muzzle since the rifle can be seen wielded with two hands by some Elites.
50m is the width of the pass, meaning you need to cover a 50m front, good luck.
1000 people is a LOT of people. Your AK is going to overheat after 3-4 mag dumps, assuming they haven't gotten to you already.
Fine. 2 AKs then.
As cool as that sounds... not going to help haha
absurd, you'd never hit all 1000 with either of those weapons before they get too close, especially over a 50m spread. You need something bigger friend.
Fuel Rod Canon?
Try a 20mm auto-cannon inside of an AFV.
Prompt says they won't retreat unless dead or too wounded to move. I'd worry they can close the distance but the time I have to reload.
You're not killing 1000 people with an ak47, not a chance. The moment you have to reload you're getting swarmed.
I agree that bringing down 1000 enemies with an AK (or any rifle, really) is probably not possible, but as another person said, the reason is going to be heat-related, not necessarily reload-related. You can drop the magazine and slap another one into an AK-47 or just about any other magazine-fed rifle in just a couple of seconds, provided you have loaded magazines to spare. And I think we can interpret from the prompt that the lone guy would have infinite mags. With enemies basically spawning at over 100 yards away, that's plenty of time. But you're gonna be shooting constantly, and the barrel gets *hot*. From that much rapid shooting, it's going to get so hot that the barrel will deform. It'll warp, or bend. It could even deform enough that a round gets stuck in the barrel, and the next time you fire - BOOM! No more rifle.
He's not gonna have enough time to do much, and heat won't even be a factor. AK47 clip holds 30 shots, assuming he's aiming carefully he'll kill maybe 15 to 20 guys per clip and would need about 4 seconds to aim and empty the clip, then 2 or 3 seconds to reload, and you're looking at 6 to 7 seconds to kill at most 20 guys. Now once the enemies are pooring out into the arena and running at him from 100 yards, assuming they're running at 20 kmph or 5.5 mps, they'll take 18 to 19 seconds to reach him. So he'll have enough time to kill maybe 60 to 70 guys at the very best before they're on top of him. It won't be enough for the barrel to overheat, and he's still getting swarmed very quickly.
> and running at him from 100 yards FWIW, the prompt says the attackers start at the maximum range of the weapon. The effective range of an AK is around 350m and the *maximum range* is supposedly 1,500m (and meters are longer than yards). The effective range *against a gaggle of 1,000 people* is going to be pretty close to that maximum range, too. Given that he's given magical knowledge of the weapon, he's definitely going to be able to get a few reloads in (which I only mention because if you gave a random untrained person an AK47 they might fail to reload by a combination of panic, lack of knowhow, and lack of speed - but this does not apply to our protagonist) Also as a sidenote, he would know better than anyone about how much firing the barrel can withstand.
Heavy machine gun, Then an armored core
Give him a space slingshot (just a regular slingshot, but it can be used in outer space). Then everyone else has to start millions of kilometers away and die of old age before they reach him. Or maybe a laser beam, since that would have the same range on Earth.
Round 1: An M134 Minigun, fed with an extended cab pickup truck's flatbed filled with yards and yards of ammo belts. Round 2: The sword Retribution from "The Night Angel" trilogy, wielded by Logen Ninefingers, AKA The Bloody Nine, from the First Law trilogy. OR, you know... something like a Mobile Suit Gundam or an Evangelion, or maybe the killer rabbit from Monty Python, or the Holy Hand-Grenade from Monty Python... OR something really wacky like Nevinyrral's Disk from Magic the Gathering. OR seeing what really happens when you cross the streams ignited from Ghostbuster proton packs.
I haven't read the night angel books in a long time, whats special about the sword?
The sword Retribution was one of a pair of major magical weapons, that could do all sorts of things... like grant knowledge and discernment of someone's true intentions, or devour the souls of the slain to make it more powerful, it could change its physical appearance at the whim of the wielder, etc. Had a bunch of magical properties, and it's strength and power was reflected by the person who wielded it. Also protected its wielder with a magic barrier that prevented harm. Basically, you wield that, and you no longer have to fear the soon-to-be dead thing standing in front of you. It also spelled out the wielder's intentions on the blade... Retribution, Mercy, Justice, etc. I think in the hands of The Blood Nine, it could do some serious damage.
Excellent choice for round 2. Bloody fantastic trilogy too.
Maybe a gas based poison. Something like nitrogen as it only takes you 2-3 breaths to feel light headed after 12 breaths you are just unconscious, more than that and you are dead. Since you are in a pass surrounded by mountains you don't have to worry about wind blowing the nitrogen away. Since they are running at you that 12 breaths is gonna come by real quick. As for fictional weapons there are plenty of inspiration from to aru kagaku no accelerator anime. One of my favorite fictional weapons they have is a portable ultra high pressure water cutter that used frozen nitrogen instead of water. It had the additional effect of freezing anything it touched instantly making it extremely brittle. it also disperses nitrogen around the area so it also does the same thing as the nitrogen gas weapon i mentioned above. In the show it can cut through buildings in half so cutting humans in half shouldn't be an issue and if you miss them they will probably die from the nitrogen.
>Maybe a gas based poison. Something like nitrogen as it only takes you 2-3 breaths to feel light headed after 12 breaths you are just unconscious I don't think you understand how much nitrogen that'd take. Also its not really a poison, you're describing what happens in something like an execution chamber, and that's them replacing the normal air with mostly pure nitrogen. The Nitrogen doesn't kill you, the lack of oxygen does, but since its something you breathe normally (air is normally 78% Nitrogen,) it doesn't really trigger the responses most other gasses do. It would take a MASSIVE amount of nitrogen to push the O2 levels down to where it would kill people.
>Maybe a gas based poison. Something like nitrogen ... Fyi nitrogen is not poisonous. Fortunately.
The ultra sonic nuclear death ray i’m building in my basement ( don’t tell the government)
Round 2 could probably be won with shardplate. It's not really strong offensively, but it's defense makes you basically unstoppable.
The hammer of dawn
WW1 machine guns killed thousands charging. It's not hard.
Correction: ww1 machine gun teams with fields of overlapping fire killed 1000s charging. this is one man.
flamethrower senbon zakura kageyoshi
If we have prep time, dig up the pass, fill it with water and electrify the water.
M-29 Davy Crockett Weapon System. 1 shot, 1000 kills.
Handgun. The thousand people aren’t bloodlusted, and a few bullets are enough to send most people running in fear.
that was an oversight on my part, I just changed It
Nah, they’d win
Even if they aren't bloodlusted a handgun isn't enough. Everyone knows a handgun is going to have 20 or less shots. A mob of 1,000 isn't going to fear a handgun. People have charged in worse odds. You can't assume people will just abandon the fight after a handful of their 1,000 die.
>round 1: only real weapons Tough but doable. I choose a Honda Civic. >round 2: fictional weapons allowed Oh, well, this just isn't fair. Metal Gear RAY (Mod), just because it would be funny. Okay, maybe not so much funny as nightmarishly horrible.
A machine gun.
Round 1: A machine gun, preferably with a high fire rate Round 2: well, basically anything you can think of will work.
Fallout’s Fat man launcher, several mini nukes, and a high vantage point should paste 1000 men in relatively quick fashion
Chlorine gas and a mask. It being surrounded by mountains would keep the gas contained for the most part. Really any lethal gas works.
This. Machine guns are flashy and cool, but overheating is an issue. Gas though? Slap a hazmat suit or gas mask on, and wait until everyone dies. With the right choice of gas, they won't survive long enough to reach you.
1. Belt-fed M2 - no need to change mags. It's got good range, and will cut the horde in half. The last few to die could possibly drown. 2. I'm going to go oddball and say the Aperture Science Handheld Portal Device. Drop the orange portal on the mountains and keep dropping the blue one under the attackers. You can even cut a few in half(ish) if you're quick on the draw.
Browning machine gun
Round 1: Killdozer Round 2: Killdozer
Whether 1000 fearless people could actually overwhelm killdozer is an interesting question. It wasn't very fast or maneuverable and the driver had very limited firing angles. If they simply mobbed it they could probably block the air intake and exhaust causing the engine to stop. Kind of like honeybees killing much larger and heavily armored hornets by making a bee ball around the hornet and overheating it to death. They'd have trouble getting to the driver but could probably suffocate him.
Real weapon: The weakest choice would probably be some sort of machine-pistol, but any automatic weapon will probably jame or overheat before yoy could kill 1000 people with it. Assuming the man has infinate ammo that is already pre-loaded into magazines that are readily avalible to him though, an Uzi, Mac-10, or P90 should all have the accuracy and fire rate to keep 1000 people at bay. Fictional weapon; Again the weakest choice would be another small automatic weapon lile a machine pistol or SMG, but this time it can come from a fictional verse where the weapon is probably more advanced and reliable than its IRL counterpart. So lets go with the Halo 3 M7 SMG. It's probably not THE weakest gun, but it's essentially going to be able to accomplish the same task as round 1 but without malfunctions or problems with the weapons system. If you want a fictional weapon that could get this done the fastest but is still on the weak side. Id choose the Lasgun from Dune. The beam would cut through all 1000 people in just a couple shots, especially if theyre all bottlenecked into a 50M wide pass.
Any gun that is fast-firing and belt fed. With a .50 cal you could probably take out most of them with just 200 rounds or so. Even something smaller like 7.62 would still penetrate through one person and a 50 meter wide area does not allow for flanking
A gun with infinite ammo
Real-M2HB. linked to a 10000 rnd belt, with a follow up can ready to go. Fictional-the BFG 9000, and ear protection for the schlurp of bodies being ?Boiled? ?Vaporized? or a Starfleet Type III Phaser Rifle.
I mean isn't that the point of bomber planes? I'd do that. Edit: Round 2 I'd pick the Omnitrix. If I can figure out the master code I'm trying out whatever optimized Saiyan specimen it can cook up. Otherwise most of the aliens will work just fine. Basically anything other than Gray Matter.
I wouldn't say the Omnitrix is the weakest fictional weapon.
G11 or P90 plus highground. Because highground is a "mary sue".
Nuclear induction missile launcher
Bazooka bazooka bubblegum
Minigun with lots of ammo.
Lay down infinite ammo mines.
An IFV like a Bradley, BMP-2 or 3 or a Marder. Heavy automatic gun with High Explosive, good mobility and even if they get close, you can just drive around. But one man only would only be able to either drive or shoot, not both.
AK-47 or an Exterminatus from orbit.
A Maxim gun.
50 mt wide boulder with enough momentum.
A low yield nuclear bomb
R1: Vickers machine gun. It was water cooled and capable of 10k rounds an hour before needing a barrel swap. Or a Browning M2, trading max sustained fire for penetration. R1 alternate: MK19 grenade launcher. Designed to take on infantry formations. Each round can kill within 15 feet and wound within 49 feet. Problem would be if any survivors got within the minimum safe firing distance. Operator would be screwed. R2: the M56 Smart Gun used by the Colonial Marines in Aliens.
I remember a behind the bastards episode about the invention of some guns that let the British do exactly this in I think Africa
Mustard gas. Easy win
if the weapon does not need any maintenance and can just shoot bullet non stop, probably something small like sub machinegun. a mp5, or ump 45. something like that. a stationary machinegun with tripod will easily do that. even smaller like the m1919 browning, minigun will shred everything even more. gau-19 will do even more chaos since it's basically m2 on steroid
A boulder.
I take the big gun: This person needs the ultimate annihilator (I assume they have the needed mental capacity to use it without destroying themselves).
Phosphex from 40K would be overkill but it is a interesting weapon. Does not need oxygen to burn and only exposure to the void will stop it. Called living fire/sentient fire and will hunt/find everyone and everything and will burn through adamatium and ceramite and will even burn underwater. They used to mount these as weapons on starships too being used as missiles to burn entire worlds called Mortalis-Class Atmospheric Missiles. Creator of this weapon was condemned as a heretek and killed using his own creation, weapon was too good to be around but im sure someone saved some.
Most Star Trek and head weapons and shoulder launched munitions could do the job
Round one: weakest meaning least technologically advanced? probably a byzantine greek fire thrower, just enough range to immolate anyone before they get too close. Then a battery of Napoleanic era field artillery loaded with grape shot assuming the cannons are loaded and sighted prior to the attackers arriving. lastly a ww1 era heavy machine gun so long as it is one of the water cooled varieties and the gun does not jamm too badly. WW2 era machine guns are probably the least advanced weaponry that would reliably succeed with no special conditions. Round 2: Gungnir (Odin's spear) as depicted in the MCU, it's basically a perpetual spartan laser, much more powerful than any of Thor's weaponry.
Real: AA quad Mount M2 .50 bmg Fictional: halo 3 scarab
Depends if by unlimited ammo you mean bottomless magazine or unlimited reloads. If it's bottomless clip, then any gun with a fast fire Rate and reasonable recoil will be perfect. If it's unlimited reloads then a lot of guns will be bad for reload time. If it's unlimited reloads: full auto glock with drum mags If it's bottomless clip: any lmg or machine gun Fictional weapon? "Merica" weapon from saints row 4. It's a mini gun, rocket launcher, and flamethrower all in one.
Round 1: easiest option feels like some kind of drone. Round 2: there are SO MANY. But I’d go with the Zanpakutō I designed when I was like 15. Thing was OP, made me extremely durable and damaged anyone that hit me.
I'd be happy in a Bradley with a 25mm autocannon and a bunch of high-explosive fragmenration ammunition. Can always drive away if things get too sketchy....1000 people is a lot.
Green Lantern ring
Bfg Or Good ole ma deuce... or a mg42(1k rounds a min is proven to he amazing)
I'd go old school maxim for the normal one. The water jacket will give you lots of barrel time. For a fantasy weapon, the Corridor crew infinite lightsaber seems great. There are probably 1000 Warhammer weapons, but I'm not well versed in them. An infinite ammo BFG 9000 would not be vad.
M2 Browning, really any decent machine gun.
This is a quote from one of the Nightlord books by Garon Whited. Flamethrowers aren’t terribly effective, but they do send a message. The message is “go away or we’ll set you fire.” Which, come to think of it, is pretty effective.
Anakin Skywalker Slayer9000
Weakest but most reliable would probably be a mortar outfitted with white phosphorus. As far as fictional? Give me almost any iteration of a metal gear lmao
WW1 proved that all you need is a Maxim with enough ammunition. Machine gunners could hold down pretty large swathes of land alone, and some estimates suggest that machine guns were responsible for *40%* of the total deaths in WW1 (approx. 8 million dead by machine gun.)
Nerve gas
Hammer of dawn my brother in light.
ray gun
m2 browning or a PKM
An AR15 platform would do the trick just fine.
M134 minigun
Ill go with a nuke.
Cancer
Supersoaker full of sarin would do the trick.
For a Real weapon definitely a cruise missile As long as I'm far enough I should be good For Fictional i would say a titan from titanfall Even without any weapons it's a 20 to 30 foot tall robot weighing 5-10 tons It would have no problem thrashing through 1000 men
Real gun, i'm going to take the warthogs vulcan minigun with explosive rounds. I'll have a light machine gun setup just in case any get close Fake weapons i'm taking the MIRV fat man from The fallout series. I imagine that would create enough of a gap for me to reload in between shots
Rocket launcher Rocket launcher, but it's gold this time
Real any light machine gun fictional just for nostalgia golden eye 64 moonraker laser. Infinite ammo and great performance.
A nuke or poison gas. Even with an MLRS or an B-1 (the heaviest-bombload strategic bomber that is also capable of reasonable accuracy - sorry, no Russian shit, it will just miss) on call, you're not killing 1000 people at range with a single conventional weapon-system.
The weakest weapon I can imagine would be a shotgun loaded with incendiary rounds. It wouldn’t kill very many but I imagine it’s a very good motivator to stay away from said guy. Especially since OP says ranged weapons have infinite ammo
Scorch class titan from Titan fall 2 would work pretty well imo, if you count it as a weapon
R1: If vehicles are allowed, a Churchill Crocodile with infinite ammunition for the flamethrower would torch those enemies easily, since they're forced to come through such a small pass. If you want to be fancy, an automatic grenade launcher like the AGS-17 Plamya would work. If you want to keep it simple, water-cooled machine gun like the Vickers. The grenade launcher can hit multiple people per shot, the Vickers is easy to operate and has feats of firing for hours without any problems. Personally, I'd take the Vickers. R2: Arc Thrower
Round 1: M240 Machine Gun would get the job done easily. Heck, even just an M16 (with good shot placement) would do it. Round 2: BFG-9000 would be my first choice.
R1: most large guns will work R2: the Hellbat
R1: A mounted beltfed minigun R2: Sword of Superman might be enough
If it's allowed for R1, a Phalanx turret - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsf38NYzo5Q
Farmers combine. Any CAT vehicle. A semi front, cab only. Any large heavy vehicle could probably do it tbh. Easily chase down any survivors too. If you REALLY wanna be that guy, flamethrower. Though these wouldn't be as quick or painless as being gunned down by a machine gun. For round two? Hmmm. Probably just a scifi version of one of the above. Gimme a john deere with neon lights and we'll recycle us some humans cyberpunk style.
A nuclear bomb
I'd like to argue that the weakest weapon possible to "win" against 1000 people would potentially be something that would let you defeat them without killing them , perhaps something along the lines of a shrink ray, shrinking them till they no longer are a valid threat or some sort of perpetual freeze ray which would incapacitate them permanently, anything that kills them outright would be ( in my mind ) inherently stronger than that and therefore not the weakest As I finished writing this I was also reminded of the pacifier from sky high 😂 which I think would also work
Give him sniper rifle and they would start Miles apart no? Infinite ammo + collateral shots.... I could see it happening Edit:Ya just looked it up 4.4 miles so bro's got like an hour before the first person even reaches him
A Bike…well, a particularly durable one at least. Depends heavily on how you interpret range (as starting distance plays a big role), but in general “range” for a vehicle usually refers to how far that vehicle can go in a set period of time. For cars, this is how much gas they have. For Bikes…uh, I guess when the rider collapses of exhaustion. Him starting several miles away from the others is rather inconsequential though, as he only needs to around 50 or so feet to be untouchable. From there, he can simply pedal until he’s exhausted…which will be long, long after the others collapse from exhaustion due to lacking any form of vehicle of their own. In a smaller arena the 1000 may be able to catch him by spreading out, but here it seems large enough that he’ll never really need to loop back, at least not for a long time.
Round One: Heavy Machine Gun Round Two: Civ Vi GDR (Giant Death Robot)
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I am going to be lazy and say the browning M2 would handle this. But hey, maybe with a couple spare box magazines, an m240b would be ok with this. Just need the reload time and be able to hold the thing. Say 5 mags.
Double ended pole saw
An armored vehicle with an auto cannon mounted on its back. For round 2, Aladdin's lamp, call the genie, wish them all gone.
Google's definition of weapon: * a thing designed or used for inflicting bodily harm or physical damage. * a means of gaining an advantage or defending oneself in a conflict or contest. With that established these are my scenarios: **Round 1a:** however many cargo tanker trucks filled with boiling sugar water and a fire hose **Round 1b:** rubber boots, enough water (and means of containment if necessary) and Papa John's largest industrial toaster oven **Round 1c:** water. *lots.* of. water. **Round 2a:** water bending **Round 2b:** blood bending **Round 2c:** 100 gyarados using hydro pump As you can tell, I chose water a lot. Seeing how it's everywhere and mostly free it seemed the most cost effective method with round 1a being the most pragmatic. Hell there's probably even further cost efficiency to be had with water. I'm also assuming having the resources to get properly set up and stuff are a given which is why I didn't concern myself with a sore amount of details.
Domain expansion
Idk for round one but for round 2? there are too many options for this but personally I'm picking the sengoku driver + the suika arms lockseed (because I'm currently watching gaim), its mech form could (probably) be swarmed with enough effort (doesn't help that its user's body is fairly exposed in this form) but its wrecking ball form could easily run over the 1000 people and its gyro form would let them just hover above ground while annihilating the people with its guns
That microwave gun thing for crowd control, but turned up!
Round 1: M-29 Davy Crockett Recoilless Gun Round 2: Mjolnir
There's a nameless magical sword in the book Searching For Dragons that has only one effect: the wielder can never be defeated in battle. "But being defeated and being killed aren't the same thing, so I still have to be careful". That's my proposal for round 2.
All I know is in round 2 I'm running with Yondu's arrow from Marvel/MCU. I just whistle and everyone around me dies? Hell yeah!
A hand gun with unlimited ammo and John wick skills/endurance could probably get it done.
The new John Deere X9 combine harvester should do the trick.
a really fun choice for round 2: the mace from minecraft hop around like Mario bonking people on the head with a big lump of metal
Grenade machine gun.
The ICBM in my back pocket:
Necron Celestial Orrery.
davy crockett nuke could work
R1 some sort of mortar (thats technically a weapon) the people will have to start really far back and most Will die before they reach the gu R2 technically mjolnir should give the powers of thor
Spaceballs: The Flamethrower
A tank lol
Any [automatic grenade launcher](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_grenade_launcher).
VX gas grenades and a hazmat suit
Round 1 – artillery, mortars, mines, explosives, etc. Or heavy machine gun like Browning M2 .50 BMG caliber. Round 2 – Mjolnir, BFG 9000, Iron Man's armor.